Re: [RBW] Japanese Atlantis vs Wisconsin Waterford Atlantis
on 3/20/11 7:38 AM, Khalid Mateen at krm2...@gmail.com wrote: I do not want to start a fiery debate about this but what makes japanese atlantis built bicycle superior to the American made ones? Just curious. When there was an announcement that Rivendell would no longer have the Toyo plant build their bicycles, people with money to spare went after the last batch of those frames. It is the steel? The craftmanship? Not sure I agree with your supposition about one being superior. Grant has posted/written a number of times about the excellent quality of both Toyo and Waterford. There are a few stylistic differences between the builds, but nothing which seems to change the functionality. That may cause someone to compare and say, given the choice, I prefer that one... There has been some discussion of this. If you go back through the group archives, you'll probably find as many people who want to buy a us-built Riv as want to buy the last of the Toyo frames. But, as I said to start, I don't recall anyone making the case for one being superior. - Jim -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries - http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes The Gallery needs your photos! Send 'em in - Here's how: http://www.cyclofiend.com/guidelines She edged in to get a better look at the bike, how it was made, the intricacy of its brakes and shifters pulling her straight in. Beauty. -- William Gibson, Virtual Light -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Japanese Atlantis vs Wisconsin Waterford Atlantis
Echoing Jim's comment below, RBW has gone to some length to assert that the quality is equal, regardless of location. In some cases where a bike might have been made at both places in the same time frame, Grant went so far as to say that buyers had no choice as to which shop would provide their bike. From: CycloFiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Sun, March 20, 2011 12:21:56 PM Subject: Re: [RBW] Japanese Atlantis vs Wisconsin Waterford Atlantis Re: [RBW] Japanese Atlantis vs Wisconsin Waterford Atlantis Grant has posted/written a number of times about the excellent quality of both Toyo and Waterford. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Japanese Atlantis vs Wisconsin Waterford Atlantis
Oh boy. Here goes!! Anytime my money can keep somebody working in Wisconsin, I'm for it, all else being equal. I think GP feels this way also, but I am not, repeat NOT speaking for him. On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 11:38 AM, Khalid Mateen krm2...@gmail.com wrote: I do not want to start a fiery debate about this but what makes japanese atlantis built bicycle superior to the American made ones? Just curious. When there was an announcement that Rivendell would no longer have the Toyo plant build their bicycles, people with money to spare went after the last batch of those frames. It is the steel? The craftmanship? Regards, K. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.