Re: [RBW] Japanese Atlantis vs Wisconsin Waterford Atlantis

2011-03-20 Thread CycloFiend
on 3/20/11 7:38 AM, Khalid Mateen at krm2...@gmail.com wrote:

I do not want to start a fiery debate about this but what makes japanese
atlantis built bicycle superior to the American made ones?  Just curious. 
When there was an announcement that Rivendell would no longer have the Toyo
plant build their bicycles, people with money to spare went after the last
batch of those frames.  It is the steel?  The craftmanship?

Not sure I agree with your supposition about one being superior.

Grant has posted/written a number of times about the excellent quality of
both Toyo and Waterford.

There are a few stylistic differences between the builds, but nothing which
seems to change the functionality.  That may cause someone to compare and
say, given the choice, I prefer that one...

There has been some discussion of this.  If you go back through the group
archives, you'll probably find as many people who want to buy a us-built Riv
as want to buy the last of the Toyo frames. But, as I said to start, I
don't recall anyone making the case for one being superior.

- Jim

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Re: [RBW] Japanese Atlantis vs Wisconsin Waterford Atlantis

2011-03-20 Thread Bruce
Echoing Jim's comment below, RBW has gone to some length to assert that the 
quality is equal, regardless of location. In some cases where a bike might have 
been made at both places in the same time frame, Grant went so far as to say 
that buyers had no choice as to which shop would provide their bike.





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Re: [RBW] Japanese Atlantis vs Wisconsin Waterford Atlantis 

Grant has posted/written a number of times about the excellent quality of both 
Toyo and Waterford. 


  

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Re: [RBW] Japanese Atlantis vs Wisconsin Waterford Atlantis

2011-03-20 Thread robert zeidler
Oh boy. Here goes!!  Anytime my money can keep somebody working in
Wisconsin, I'm for it, all else being equal.  I think GP feels this
way also, but I am not, repeat NOT speaking for him.

On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 11:38 AM, Khalid Mateen krm2...@gmail.com wrote:
 I do not want to start a fiery debate about this but what makes japanese
 atlantis built bicycle superior to the American made ones?  Just curious.
 When there was an announcement that Rivendell would no longer have the Toyo
 plant build their bicycles, people with money to spare went after the last
 batch of those frames.  It is the steel?  The craftmanship?

 Regards,

 K.

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