Re: [RBW] Re: Compass 26 × 1.75 Feedback requested

2015-01-22 Thread 'Clayton' via RBW Owners Bunch
Ok, I found it... Expensive though... They make a fatbike tire too in the 
same pattern...


On Thursday, January 22, 2015 at 11:02:24 AM UTC-8, Tim Gavin wrote:

 I'm also a huge fan of the ITS micro knobby on a 26 country bike for 
 gravel, dirt, pavement, etc.  The reverse tread in the center lets them 
 roll very fast.  I like mine around 25-30 psi for gravel, and 30-35 psi for 
 pavement.

 It looks like you can still get the MK3 in 26 x 2.25 
 http://shop.veetireco.com/Vee-Tire-Co-MK3-26x2-25-BMX-Tire-p/bx-mk3-14.htm 
 but 
 no longer in 26 x 2.1.  For that size, it looks like the Speedster is their 
 option--which seems like a very similar tire, but a hair less tread.

 This bums me out, because the chainstay U-brake on my KOM won't clear a 
 2.25 tire.  I guess I'll use a 2.1 Speedster on the rear when I wear out 
 the MK2.  No risk of that any time soon, though.  I have about 1000 miles 
 on my MK2s, with no flats and I can't see any wear.

 Clayton, if you have a line on 26 x 2.1 MKs, please order at least 1 pair 
 for me as well!  Shoot, make that 2 or 3 pair; they're a great tire for 
 MTB-to-townie conversions because they're fast, light, and still 
 sure-footed on most surfaces.

 -Tim

 On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 12:21 PM, 'Clayton' via RBW Owners Bunch 
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 Whenever a tire thread comes up, I have to chime in on the Intense cycles 
 micro knobby. My favorite tire *ever* for the touring I do. It is very 
 light, wide (2.10 or so), and rolls like silk. Pump 'em up and they go 
 zoomy. Make 'em soft and they are very comfy off road. I like 'em more than 
 the Compass. I should probably sell my pair of compass tires.. I never run 
 them...Matter of fact, writing this just made me think I should order more 
 micro knobbies, before they go away... Fear purchase...lol.

 The Clayton in Bend Oregon



 On Tuesday, January 20, 2015 at 6:40:21 PM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote:

 Hi Bunch, 

 Has anyone had experience with the above tires? If yes how do they 
 compare to the Big Ben's? The compass weigh in at 440g which are light and 
 I presume would roll fast. I wonder how they'd handle mixed terrain? How 
 they hold up over time? In advance thanks for your thoughts. 

 Cheers, 

 ~Hugh

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Re: [RBW] Re: Compass 26 × 1.75 Feedback requested

2015-01-22 Thread 'Clayton' via RBW Owners Bunch
Dammit. I can't find them anywhere...sniffBww! I might have to try 
the 2.25's... Or just say screw it and get some Maxxis crossmarks. .. 
Seriously sad... How come it always goes like that? You finally find 
something that works real well, and they discontinue it? Like the original 
paperwall Fisher Fat Track and Specialized Hard pack tires... Great tires 
with vulnerable sidewalls, but they rode so nice...

On Thursday, January 22, 2015 at 11:02:24 AM UTC-8, Tim Gavin wrote:

 I'm also a huge fan of the ITS micro knobby on a 26 country bike for 
 gravel, dirt, pavement, etc.  The reverse tread in the center lets them 
 roll very fast.  I like mine around 25-30 psi for gravel, and 30-35 psi for 
 pavement.

 It looks like you can still get the MK3 in 26 x 2.25 
 http://shop.veetireco.com/Vee-Tire-Co-MK3-26x2-25-BMX-Tire-p/bx-mk3-14.htm 
 but 
 no longer in 26 x 2.1.  For that size, it looks like the Speedster is their 
 option--which seems like a very similar tire, but a hair less tread.

 This bums me out, because the chainstay U-brake on my KOM won't clear a 
 2.25 tire.  I guess I'll use a 2.1 Speedster on the rear when I wear out 
 the MK2.  No risk of that any time soon, though.  I have about 1000 miles 
 on my MK2s, with no flats and I can't see any wear.

 Clayton, if you have a line on 26 x 2.1 MKs, please order at least 1 pair 
 for me as well!  Shoot, make that 2 or 3 pair; they're a great tire for 
 MTB-to-townie conversions because they're fast, light, and still 
 sure-footed on most surfaces.

 -Tim

 On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 12:21 PM, 'Clayton' via RBW Owners Bunch 
 rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript: wrote:

 Whenever a tire thread comes up, I have to chime in on the Intense cycles 
 micro knobby. My favorite tire *ever* for the touring I do. It is very 
 light, wide (2.10 or so), and rolls like silk. Pump 'em up and they go 
 zoomy. Make 'em soft and they are very comfy off road. I like 'em more than 
 the Compass. I should probably sell my pair of compass tires.. I never run 
 them...Matter of fact, writing this just made me think I should order more 
 micro knobbies, before they go away... Fear purchase...lol.

 The Clayton in Bend Oregon



 On Tuesday, January 20, 2015 at 6:40:21 PM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote:

 Hi Bunch, 

 Has anyone had experience with the above tires? If yes how do they 
 compare to the Big Ben's? The compass weigh in at 440g which are light and 
 I presume would roll fast. I wonder how they'd handle mixed terrain? How 
 they hold up over time? In advance thanks for your thoughts. 

 Cheers, 

 ~Hugh

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Re: [RBW] Re: Compass 26 × 1.75 Feedback requested

2015-01-22 Thread lungimsam
Hard Rock tires, you mean?
I think my sister has them on her Hard Rock bike that's only been ridden twice 
or so, I think.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Compass 26 × 1.75 Feedback requested

2015-01-22 Thread Tim Gavin
I'm also a huge fan of the ITS micro knobby on a 26 country bike for
gravel, dirt, pavement, etc.  The reverse tread in the center lets them
roll very fast.  I like mine around 25-30 psi for gravel, and 30-35 psi for
pavement.

It looks like you can still get the MK3 in 26 x 2.25
http://shop.veetireco.com/Vee-Tire-Co-MK3-26x2-25-BMX-Tire-p/bx-mk3-14.htm
but
no longer in 26 x 2.1.  For that size, it looks like the Speedster is their
option--which seems like a very similar tire, but a hair less tread.

This bums me out, because the chainstay U-brake on my KOM won't clear a
2.25 tire.  I guess I'll use a 2.1 Speedster on the rear when I wear out
the MK2.  No risk of that any time soon, though.  I have about 1000 miles
on my MK2s, with no flats and I can't see any wear.

Clayton, if you have a line on 26 x 2.1 MKs, please order at least 1 pair
for me as well!  Shoot, make that 2 or 3 pair; they're a great tire for
MTB-to-townie conversions because they're fast, light, and still
sure-footed on most surfaces.

-Tim

On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 12:21 PM, 'Clayton' via RBW Owners Bunch 
rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com wrote:

 Whenever a tire thread comes up, I have to chime in on the Intense cycles
 micro knobby. My favorite tire *ever* for the touring I do. It is very
 light, wide (2.10 or so), and rolls like silk. Pump 'em up and they go
 zoomy. Make 'em soft and they are very comfy off road. I like 'em more than
 the Compass. I should probably sell my pair of compass tires.. I never run
 them...Matter of fact, writing this just made me think I should order more
 micro knobbies, before they go away... Fear purchase...lol.

 The Clayton in Bend Oregon



 On Tuesday, January 20, 2015 at 6:40:21 PM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote:

 Hi Bunch,

 Has anyone had experience with the above tires? If yes how do they
 compare to the Big Ben's? The compass weigh in at 440g which are light and
 I presume would roll fast. I wonder how they'd handle mixed terrain? How
 they hold up over time? In advance thanks for your thoughts.

 Cheers,

 ~Hugh

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Re: [RBW] Re: Compass 26 × 1.75 Feedback requested

2015-01-21 Thread Shoji Takahashi
Hi Hugh,
I've used Compass 26x1.75 and Big Bens on my Hunqapillar. The Compass tires 
are noticeably faster-- 40-min commute goes down to 35-min. (I have to stop 
at lots of traffic lights, so maybe it's due to faster acceleration?)

I've used Compass and Big Bens about a year each in Boston-area roads 
(potholes, debris) and packed dirt trails. No problems with either. 

The Big Bens are larger volume. Their sidewalls seem to-be sturdier than 
the Compass. I can't say whether that translates to fewer flats or reduced 
chance of sidewall cuts compared to the Compass.

I highly recommend either tire for these road and trail conditions. I do 
wish the Compass were wider... and I know others feel that way from a 
previous thread. That might make a difference for you on your journey. 
Also, the Compass folds nicely for a spare.

I've been using the Schwalbe extralight inner tubes, and they've been fine. 
If you're going to embrace your inner weight weenie, I'd add them to the 
list, too.

Happy riding!
Shoji 


On Wednesday, January 21, 2015 at 1:19:18 PM UTC-5, hsmitham wrote:

 MIke, Erl, Rod, Aaron and Chris, thanks so far for the feedback. 

 I'm leaning towards the Compass as I'll be doing a long tour this Summer. 
 I originally figured the WTB All Terrains would be fine for mixed terrain 
 riding and they are but I'm rethinking the whole weight penalty thing these 
 days.Yeah I'm thinking like a weight weenie, and my truth is the lighter 
 the load along with less tire rolling resistance the happier I'll be. 

 Again thanks for the feedback and others please let me know your 
 experiences with this tire.

 Cheers

 ~Hugh

 “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep 
 moving.” ― Albert Einstein

 http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/



 On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 9:49 AM, Pondero cj.sp...@gmail.com javascript:
  wrote:

 Great question, Hugh.  If I ever decide my Holy Rollers are overkill for 
 my Atlantis (for longer rides), the Compass tires are what I have in the 
 back of my mind.  Sounds like good reports so far.

 Chris Johnson
 Sanger, Texas

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Re: [RBW] Re: Compass 26 × 1.75 Feedback requested

2015-01-21 Thread 'Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch
Jan's article on what he dubbed a 90% bicycle or something like that led 
me to believe that he at least sees the need for a wider version of this 
tire.  I don't know if the demand is there for him to justify doing it 
though.   



On Wednesday, January 21, 2015 at 12:32:50 PM UTC-6, Shoji Takahashi wrote:

 Hi Hugh,
 I've used Compass 26x1.75 and Big Bens on my Hunqapillar. The Compass 
 tires are noticeably faster-- 40-min commute goes down to 35-min. (I have 
 to stop at lots of traffic lights, so maybe it's due to faster 
 acceleration?)

 I've used Compass and Big Bens about a year each in Boston-area roads 
 (potholes, debris) and packed dirt trails. No problems with either. 

 The Big Bens are larger volume. Their sidewalls seem to-be sturdier than 
 the Compass. I can't say whether that translates to fewer flats or reduced 
 chance of sidewall cuts compared to the Compass.

 I highly recommend either tire for these road and trail conditions. I do 
 wish the Compass were wider... and I know others feel that way from a 
 previous thread. That might make a difference for you on your journey. 
 Also, the Compass folds nicely for a spare.

 I've been using the Schwalbe extralight inner tubes, and they've been 
 fine. If you're going to embrace your inner weight weenie, I'd add them to 
 the list, too.

 Happy riding!
 Shoji 


 On Wednesday, January 21, 2015 at 1:19:18 PM UTC-5, hsmitham wrote:

 MIke, Erl, Rod, Aaron and Chris, thanks so far for the feedback. 

 I'm leaning towards the Compass as I'll be doing a long tour this Summer. 
 I originally figured the WTB All Terrains would be fine for mixed terrain 
 riding and they are but I'm rethinking the whole weight penalty thing these 
 days.Yeah I'm thinking like a weight weenie, and my truth is the lighter 
 the load along with less tire rolling resistance the happier I'll be. 

 Again thanks for the feedback and others please let me know your 
 experiences with this tire.

 Cheers

 ~Hugh

 “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep 
 moving.” ― Albert Einstein

 http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/



 On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 9:49 AM, Pondero cj.sp...@gmail.com wrote:

 Great question, Hugh.  If I ever decide my Holy Rollers are overkill for 
 my Atlantis (for longer rides), the Compass tires are what I have in the 
 back of my mind.  Sounds like good reports so far.

 Chris Johnson
 Sanger, Texas

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Re: [RBW] Re: Compass 26 × 1.75 Feedback requested

2015-01-21 Thread Hugh Smitham
MIke, Erl, Rod, Aaron and Chris, thanks so far for the feedback.

I'm leaning towards the Compass as I'll be doing a long tour this Summer. I
originally figured the WTB All Terrains would be fine for mixed terrain
riding and they are but I'm rethinking the whole weight penalty thing these
days.Yeah I'm thinking like a weight weenie, and my truth is the lighter
the load along with less tire rolling resistance the happier I'll be.

Again thanks for the feedback and others please let me know your
experiences with this tire.

Cheers

~Hugh

“Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
moving.” ― Albert Einstein

http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/



On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 9:49 AM, Pondero cj.spin...@gmail.com wrote:

 Great question, Hugh.  If I ever decide my Holy Rollers are overkill for
 my Atlantis (for longer rides), the Compass tires are what I have in the
 back of my mind.  Sounds like good reports so far.

 Chris Johnson
 Sanger, Texas

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Re: [RBW] Re: Compass 26 × 1.75 Feedback requested

2015-01-21 Thread Aaron Young
I've just replaced some Big Bens  on an older mountain-y bike with the
Compass tires.  Only limited riding on them so far, but they've been
great.  Maybe a bit quicker feeling then the BB's.  Just eyeballing, but
they seem to be almost as poofy as the Hetres (not 26, I know) I have on
my Sam, which I just love.  The Compass have a bit more tread (Pasela
style), but so far they make me happy even though they are less-poofy than
the BB's.  Wish I could give you a long term report on each, but I don't
have enough miles on either to do that yet.

-Aaron Young
The Dalles, OR

On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 8:41 PM, Rod Holland rholland1...@gmail.com wrote:

 I run Compass 1.75 on one bike, 2.15 Big Ben's on another (how I ended
 up with two 26 inch bikes is a long story). I run both on mixed terrain,
 with good results. The Compass tires spin up faster, and I use them for
 day-long rides (75+ miles) with a mix of pavement and trails. The Big Bens
 will pretty much roll over anything, and I tend to use them where that will
 be helpful: think monster truck.

 rod

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Re: [RBW] Re: Compass 26 × 1.75 Feedback requested

2015-01-21 Thread Rod Holland
I'd certainly welcome (read, buy) a wider version of these tires. I'd also 
go for an Extralight version (that might require a change to the tread, 
however).

rod

On Wednesday, January 21, 2015 at 2:51:54 PM UTC-5, Chris Lampe 2 wrote:

 Jan's article on what he dubbed a 90% bicycle or something like that led 
 me to believe that he at least sees the need for a wider version of this 
 tire.  I don't know if the demand is there for him to justify doing it 
 though.   



 On Wednesday, January 21, 2015 at 12:32:50 PM UTC-6, Shoji Takahashi wrote:

 Hi Hugh,
 I've used Compass 26x1.75 and Big Bens on my Hunqapillar. The Compass 
 tires are noticeably faster-- 40-min commute goes down to 35-min. (I have 
 to stop at lots of traffic lights, so maybe it's due to faster 
 acceleration?)

 I've used Compass and Big Bens about a year each in Boston-area roads 
 (potholes, debris) and packed dirt trails. No problems with either. 

 The Big Bens are larger volume. Their sidewalls seem to-be sturdier 
 than the Compass. I can't say whether that translates to fewer flats or 
 reduced chance of sidewall cuts compared to the Compass.

 I highly recommend either tire for these road and trail conditions. I do 
 wish the Compass were wider... and I know others feel that way from a 
 previous thread. That might make a difference for you on your journey. 
 Also, the Compass folds nicely for a spare.

 I've been using the Schwalbe extralight inner tubes, and they've been 
 fine. If you're going to embrace your inner weight weenie, I'd add them to 
 the list, too.

 Happy riding!
 Shoji 


 On Wednesday, January 21, 2015 at 1:19:18 PM UTC-5, hsmitham wrote:

 MIke, Erl, Rod, Aaron and Chris, thanks so far for the feedback. 

 I'm leaning towards the Compass as I'll be doing a long tour this 
 Summer. I originally figured the WTB All Terrains would be fine for mixed 
 terrain riding and they are but I'm rethinking the whole weight penalty 
 thing these days.Yeah I'm thinking like a weight weenie, and my truth is 
 the lighter the load along with less tire rolling resistance the happier 
 I'll be. 

 Again thanks for the feedback and others please let me know your 
 experiences with this tire.

 Cheers

 ~Hugh

 “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep 
 moving.” ― Albert Einstein

 http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/



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 Great question, Hugh.  If I ever decide my Holy Rollers are overkill 
 for my Atlantis (for longer rides), the Compass tires are what I have in 
 the back of my mind.  Sounds like good reports so far.

 Chris Johnson
 Sanger, Texas

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Re: [RBW] Re: Compass 26 × 1.75 Feedback requested

2015-01-21 Thread Mike Schiller
Hugh, if I come along on the tour this summer ( hopefully) I'm planning on 
running the new Pasela 650B tires. While I love the Hetres, I prefer 
something slightly sturdier for loaded touring, but prob. not as heavy as 
the Schwalbes.  The Pasela's with the thicker tread ( 700x37, 650Bx42, and 
26 x 1.75) is a nice in-between tire.

~mike
Carlsbad Ca.




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Re: [RBW] Re: Compass 26 × 1.75 Feedback requested

2015-01-21 Thread Hugh Smitham
Mike,

I agree with you on the merits of a tire like the Pasela.

So your still in the if column? Was my description not enticing enough? I
suppose I could have added more flourishing descriptions. By the way there
will be logging roads up the West side of the Island.

~Hugh
On Jan 21, 2015 3:25 PM, Mike Schiller mikeybi...@rocketmail.com wrote:

 Hugh, if I come along on the tour this summer ( hopefully) I'm planning on
 running the new Pasela 650B tires. While I love the Hetres, I prefer
 something slightly sturdier for loaded touring, but prob. not as heavy as
 the Schwalbes.  The Pasela's with the thicker tread ( 700x37, 650Bx42, and
 26 x 1.75) is a nice in-between tire.

 ~mike
 Carlsbad Ca.


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Re: [RBW] Re: Compass 26 × 1.75 Feedback requested

2015-01-21 Thread Joe Bunik
Tangent: how about the Maxxis DTH?

Spotted locally here on a Riv'd-up MB-1:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/joe_bunik/15154563141/

=- Joe Bunik
Walnut Creek, CA

On 1/21/15, Rod Holland rholland1...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'd certainly welcome (read, buy) a wider version of these tires. I'd also
 go for an Extralight version (that might require a change to the tread,
 however).

 rod

 On Wednesday, January 21, 2015 at 2:51:54 PM UTC-5, Chris Lampe 2 wrote:

 Jan's article on what he dubbed a 90% bicycle or something like that led

 me to believe that he at least sees the need for a wider version of this
 tire.  I don't know if the demand is there for him to justify doing it
 though.



 On Wednesday, January 21, 2015 at 12:32:50 PM UTC-6, Shoji Takahashi
 wrote:

 Hi Hugh,
 I've used Compass 26x1.75 and Big Bens on my Hunqapillar. The Compass
 tires are noticeably faster-- 40-min commute goes down to 35-min. (I have

 to stop at lots of traffic lights, so maybe it's due to faster
 acceleration?)

 I've used Compass and Big Bens about a year each in Boston-area roads
 (potholes, debris) and packed dirt trails. No problems with either.

 The Big Bens are larger volume. Their sidewalls seem to-be sturdier
 than the Compass. I can't say whether that translates to fewer flats or
 reduced chance of sidewall cuts compared to the Compass.

 I highly recommend either tire for these road and trail conditions. I do

 wish the Compass were wider... and I know others feel that way from a
 previous thread. That might make a difference for you on your journey.
 Also, the Compass folds nicely for a spare.

 I've been using the Schwalbe extralight inner tubes, and they've been
 fine. If you're going to embrace your inner weight weenie, I'd add them
 to
 the list, too.

 Happy riding!
 Shoji


 On Wednesday, January 21, 2015 at 1:19:18 PM UTC-5, hsmitham wrote:

 MIke, Erl, Rod, Aaron and Chris, thanks so far for the feedback.

 I'm leaning towards the Compass as I'll be doing a long tour this
 Summer. I originally figured the WTB All Terrains would be fine for
 mixed
 terrain riding and they are but I'm rethinking the whole weight penalty

 thing these days.Yeah I'm thinking like a weight weenie, and my truth is

 the lighter the load along with less tire rolling resistance the happier

 I'll be.

 Again thanks for the feedback and others please let me know your
 experiences with this tire.

 Cheers

 ~Hugh

 Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
 moving. -- Albert Einstein

 http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/



 On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 9:49 AM, Pondero cj.sp...@gmail.com wrote:

 Great question, Hugh.  If I ever decide my Holy Rollers are overkill
 for my Atlantis (for longer rides), the Compass tires are what I have
 in
 the back of my mind.  Sounds like good reports so far.

 Chris Johnson
 Sanger, Texas

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