Re: [RBW] Re: Handlebar suggestions for the Hunq

2016-12-24 Thread Patrick Moore 
Thanks, all. So the answer is clearly "Yes and No."

Chris: agree wholeheartedly about body position: that's why high and close
up for M bars doesn't work for me (low and far is only a bit better,
though). Saddle angle is fine.

I'll pass on the Albastaches until and unless I find a used on on sale very
cheap. Meanwhile, I'm due to receive a stem extender device for the Dahon
stem that will give me a couple more inches of reach, and perhaps that will
make the M bar a bit more comfortable.

I'd install a drop bar, but that would make folding awkward -- I think.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Handlebar suggestions for the Hunq

2016-12-24 Thread Deacon Patrick 
20 people, 20 answers. Grin. I experienced a vast difference between the 
Moustache and the new Moustache (aka Albastache). Don't recall the details, 
but I loved it at first, then after a fairly short time did not like them 
at all. 

With abandon,
Patrick

On Saturday, December 24, 2016 at 11:48:24 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> A related question: I've tried the original road-brake-lever-type 
> Moustache bars at least half a dozen times; presently I have them on the 
> Hon Solo. I've tried them closer and higher but find that in this way I'm 
> supporting more weight on my palms than when they are positioned lower and 
> farther away. My left palm is very sensitive, so much so that the only bar 
> I've found to be really comfortable is the road drop bar.
>
> I'd try a drop bar on the Hon Solo except that these would make folding 
> harder. So, here's my question: does the Albastache bar reduce hand 
> pressure? I realize that the answer involves a large number of variables, 
> but on the whole, for those who have used both the original M bar and the 
> A: is the A less likely to hurt your hands, all else equal?
>
> On Sat, Dec 24, 2016 at 11:37 AM, Bill M.  > wrote:
>
>> Moustache is a no, won't fix your issues and besides it doesn't take the 
>> MTB parts.  Alba is nice for a grocery getter, I wouldn't like it on 
>> rocky/rooty trails.  I had a Jones Loop, the angle was just wrong for me 
>> and I didn't use most of the theoretical hand positions.  I like the On-One 
>> Mary, which is similar to some of the other bars mentioned.  Fairly 
>> inexpensive as an experiment, and will fit a standard stem.  I started off 
>> with the Mary on my Clem.  I'm currently using it strictly in town and 
>> swapped to an Alba, but should I get the chance to get it dirty next summer 
>> I'll likely swap back to Mary. 
>>
>> Bill
>> Stockton, CA
>>
>> On Friday, December 23, 2016 at 2:32:53 PM UTC-8, Tim wrote:
>>>
>>> I have 150mm Nitto Bullmoose bars on the 58cm Hunqapillar. They are 
>>> level with the saddle (at the max extension), bar-ends mounted to thumbies, 
>>> cork grips. They don't work for me. Hand numbness ensues in a very, very 
>>> short time. I have now and again numbness with my noodle bars on my three 
>>> other bikes (all with bars at saddle height), that goes away easily with a 
>>> different hand position. So I have a set of the old-type Riv/Nitto 
>>> Moustache (not Albastache) bars, or some Albatross bars (which I'm swapping 
>>> for Noodles on the GFs Sam). Or I could choose the Bosco or Choco. I'll use 
>>> the Hunq for some rocky/rooty, kind of technical singletrack, hauling 
>>> groceries, maybe a few days on the Katy Trail, you get the picture. I will 
>>> ditch the cork grips but would like to keep the thumbies and MTB brakes. 
>>> Which way would you go? 
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Handlebar suggestions for the Hunq

2016-12-24 Thread Bob K. 
Patrick Moore,

In my experience, yes, although I was using the wrong stem with the M and I use 
the right one (80 Technomic) with the A. The main differences are that the A is 
an inch longer on each side and the reach is less. I like the A so, so much 
better than M.

Bob K.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Handlebar suggestions for the Hunq

2016-12-24 Thread Joe Bernard 
I found no difference in comfort between the Moustache and Albastache bars. The 
curve where the brake levers sit puts a pressure on the outer edge of my palms 
which creates a bad tingling after only a few miles.  

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Re: [RBW] Re: Handlebar suggestions for the Hunq

2016-12-24 Thread Patrick Moore 
A related question: I've tried the original road-brake-lever-type Moustache
bars at least half a dozen times; presently I have them on the Hon Solo.
I've tried them closer and higher but find that in this way I'm supporting
more weight on my palms than when they are positioned lower and farther
away. My left palm is very sensitive, so much so that the only bar I've
found to be really comfortable is the road drop bar.

I'd try a drop bar on the Hon Solo except that these would make folding
harder. So, here's my question: does the Albastache bar reduce hand
pressure? I realize that the answer involves a large number of variables,
but on the whole, for those who have used both the original M bar and the
A: is the A less likely to hurt your hands, all else equal?

On Sat, Dec 24, 2016 at 11:37 AM, Bill M.  wrote:

> Moustache is a no, won't fix your issues and besides it doesn't take the
> MTB parts.  Alba is nice for a grocery getter, I wouldn't like it on
> rocky/rooty trails.  I had a Jones Loop, the angle was just wrong for me
> and I didn't use most of the theoretical hand positions.  I like the On-One
> Mary, which is similar to some of the other bars mentioned.  Fairly
> inexpensive as an experiment, and will fit a standard stem.  I started off
> with the Mary on my Clem.  I'm currently using it strictly in town and
> swapped to an Alba, but should I get the chance to get it dirty next summer
> I'll likely swap back to Mary.
>
> Bill
> Stockton, CA
>
> On Friday, December 23, 2016 at 2:32:53 PM UTC-8, Tim wrote:
>>
>> I have 150mm Nitto Bullmoose bars on the 58cm Hunqapillar. They are level
>> with the saddle (at the max extension), bar-ends mounted to thumbies, cork
>> grips. They don't work for me. Hand numbness ensues in a very, very short
>> time. I have now and again numbness with my noodle bars on my three other
>> bikes (all with bars at saddle height), that goes away easily with a
>> different hand position. So I have a set of the old-type Riv/Nitto
>> Moustache (not Albastache) bars, or some Albatross bars (which I'm swapping
>> for Noodles on the GFs Sam). Or I could choose the Bosco or Choco. I'll use
>> the Hunq for some rocky/rooty, kind of technical singletrack, hauling
>> groceries, maybe a few days on the Katy Trail, you get the picture. I will
>> ditch the cork grips but would like to keep the thumbies and MTB brakes.
>> Which way would you go?
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Handlebar suggestions for the Hunq

2016-12-24 Thread Robert Keal 
Another possibility that is similar the the Jones in terms of angles is the
Surly Open Bar. It comes in 25.4. I used it on a vintage mtb build that I
took on a pretty challenging off-road tour in VA this past summer. There
are a couple of hand positions. I didn't have any numbness after hours in
the saddle.

Bob K in Baltimore


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