Re: [RBW] Re: My wife adjusted her handlebars
On Wednesday, September 24, 2014 7:18:54 PM UTC+2, Doug Van Cleve wrote: For an upright bar setup, with typical RBW bar height, the frame size has very little to do with anything. A tall Nitto stem and upright bars will work fine, even on a smallish frame IMHO. But with a frame as small as this, there are no stems that are tall enough that a wide bar with moderate back sweep would work if you want to sit fairly upright. You will need a handlebar with a lot of rise, and most of those have a very large back sweep, so you need a fairly long stem to compensate for that. Many people do not like having the grip as close to the body as it would be with a bar with a lot of back sweep and the stem that is on the bike in question now. Johan Larsson, Sweden You will need to do some guessing on stem length. It won't look the best, but it doesn't look good anyway ;^)BTW, those brifter will work on Albatross bars, mounted as if they were moustache bars. Not sure if the angles well get weird with the bars right side up, but flipped they mount nicely. Doug On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 9:53 AM, Jim Bronson jim.b...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Yes, you are correct, she needs a women's frame to suit her riding style, at least with drops. The reason she didn't go for a taller frame in what she has now: The TT would have been longer and she didn't want that. Or I could explore the alternate solution, which is to put Albas on the existing bike. Probably could be done fairly inexpensively, and moved to another frame later if necessary. On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 9:23 PM, Mike Schiller mikey...@rocketmail.com javascript: wrote: I make it a point not to intervene in marital issues. ha but it seems obvious that your wife needs a women's frame. They have shorter top tubes but with a frame size that is commensurate with her height. None of the Riv models are designed this way. see this http://www.teamestrogen.com/content/wsdBikes Short of getting a new frame, which she is opposed to, perhaps a zero setback seat post or some compact drop bars( less reach)? ~mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. http://www.pinterest.com/pin/create/extension/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: My wife adjusted her handlebars
On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 1:25 PM, Johan Larsson seven.nau...@gmail.com wrote: But with a frame as small as this, there are no stems that are tall enough that a wide bar with moderate back sweep would work if you want to sit fairly upright. Nitto NTC-280? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: My wife adjusted her handlebars
Yes, you are correct, she needs a women's frame to suit her riding style, at least with drops. The reason she didn't go for a taller frame in what she has now: The TT would have been longer and she didn't want that. Or I could explore the alternate solution, which is to put Albas on the existing bike. Probably could be done fairly inexpensively, and moved to another frame later if necessary. On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 9:23 PM, Mike Schiller mikeybi...@rocketmail.com wrote: I make it a point not to intervene in marital issues. ha but it seems obvious that your wife needs a women's frame. They have shorter top tubes but with a frame size that is commensurate with her height. None of the Riv models are designed this way. see this http://www.teamestrogen.com/content/wsdBikes Short of getting a new frame, which she is opposed to, perhaps a zero setback seat post or some compact drop bars( less reach)? ~mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: My wife adjusted her handlebars
For an upright bar setup, with typical RBW bar height, the frame size has very little to do with anything. A tall Nitto stem and upright bars will work fine, even on a smallish frame IMHO. You will need to do some guessing on stem length. It won't look the best, but it doesn't look good anyway ;^)BTW, those brifter will work on Albatross bars, mounted as if they were moustache bars. Not sure if the angles well get weird with the bars right side up, but flipped they mount nicely. Doug On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 9:53 AM, Jim Bronson jim.bron...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, you are correct, she needs a women's frame to suit her riding style, at least with drops. The reason she didn't go for a taller frame in what she has now: The TT would have been longer and she didn't want that. Or I could explore the alternate solution, which is to put Albas on the existing bike. Probably could be done fairly inexpensively, and moved to another frame later if necessary. On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 9:23 PM, Mike Schiller mikeybi...@rocketmail.com wrote: I make it a point not to intervene in marital issues. ha but it seems obvious that your wife needs a women's frame. They have shorter top tubes but with a frame size that is commensurate with her height. None of the Riv models are designed this way. see this http://www.teamestrogen.com/content/wsdBikes Short of getting a new frame, which she is opposed to, perhaps a zero setback seat post or some compact drop bars( less reach)? ~mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: My wife adjusted her handlebars
I appreciate the fact you all think her bike is too small by Riv standards but she would not think of buying another, so I have to deal with what I have here. Never mind the fact that I am all too happy to acquire an additional frame, she, alas, is not, even if she's not the one paying for it. Sometimes when you marry someone who is practical to a fault, that's what you get. On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 5:46 PM, A CT Cyclist amee.1...@gmail.com wrote: I agree the bike looks too small bc of all the seat post showing, while her handle bars look to be an inch or so below the saddle height. She should get a proper bike fitting or use Riv's PBH guide. I wouldn't spend money trying to make a bike that is too small more comfortable. I ride a 50 cm Technomic stem on a 51 cm Soma San Marcos w/ drop bars that are 3.5 above my saddle height. With the drop bars I'm able to ride forward or quite upright depending on where I put my hands. A CT Cyclist On Monday, September 22, 2014 6:31:02 PM UTC-4, Jim Bronson wrote: She says it's comfortable this way. I think it's time to ditch the drops. Any suggestions? I showed her some pics of flat bars that looked sorta like Albatross bars with thumbies except more plasticy and she says she wants those rather than bar-ends. In other words I think she'd enjoy the bike better Rivved-out. Thoughts? Please don't suggest 650b conversionyet ;) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: My wife adjusted her handlebars
Find the same frame in a larger size and swap it out! Not that there's anything wrong with the DUI-bar look... Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 4:52 PM, Jim Bronson jim.bron...@gmail.com wrote: I appreciate the fact you all think her bike is too small by Riv standards but she would not think of buying another, so I have to deal with what I have here. Never mind the fact that I am all too happy to acquire an additional frame, she, alas, is not, even if she's not the one paying for it. Sometimes when you marry someone who is practical to a fault, that's what you get. On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 5:46 PM, A CT Cyclist amee.1...@gmail.com wrote: I agree the bike looks too small bc of all the seat post showing, while her handle bars look to be an inch or so below the saddle height. She should get a proper bike fitting or use Riv's PBH guide. I wouldn't spend money trying to make a bike that is too small more comfortable. I ride a 50 cm Technomic stem on a 51 cm Soma San Marcos w/ drop bars that are 3.5 above my saddle height. With the drop bars I'm able to ride forward or quite upright depending on where I put my hands. A CT Cyclist On Monday, September 22, 2014 6:31:02 PM UTC-4, Jim Bronson wrote: She says it's comfortable this way. I think it's time to ditch the drops. Any suggestions? I showed her some pics of flat bars that looked sorta like Albatross bars with thumbies except more plasticy and she says she wants those rather than bar-ends. In other words I think she'd enjoy the bike better Rivved-out. Thoughts? Please don't suggest 650b conversionyet ;) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: My wife adjusted her handlebars
That's a 50mm extension Technomic that's on there. She definitely doesn't want the bars farther away. She wants to ride upright. On Sep 22, 2014 5:58 PM, Bill Lindsay tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: With that much seatpost showing, it's no wonder she wanted to get her bars higher. Is the frame a couple sizes too small? No expensive wheel conversions on bikes that don't fit. Maybe that Riv deadstock Nitto stem and an alba bar would get her upright without scrunching her up. Stem http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/st5ds-2513.htm On Monday, September 22, 2014 3:31:02 PM UTC-7, Jim Bronson wrote: She says it's comfortable this way. I think it's time to ditch the drops. Any suggestions? I showed her some pics of flat bars that looked sorta like Albatross bars with thumbies except more plasticy and she says she wants those rather than bar-ends. In other words I think she'd enjoy the bike better Rivved-out. Thoughts? Please don't suggest 650b conversionyet ;) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: My wife adjusted her handlebars
Albatross bars sweep a few inches back. If you just put Albatross bars on that stem on a bike that already appears to be a bit on the small side, my concern would be that she'll feel like her hands hit her hips when she steers. A nice longish extension stem with a 25.4mm clamp, paired with an albatross bar with a some rise and a fair bit of sweep back could make a big improvement for her. Also, while we're at it, her seat is tilted way down. Often riders do that because they feel there's too much pressure in the middle of the saddle, so they naturally drop it nose down and out of the way. Problem is, that all too often now forces you to slide forward on the saddle, making the problem not better but worse. She should be able to get comfortably back on her sit bones. I wonder if you should try flattening it out and sliding it forward on the rails. Make it easier for her to get her sitbones on the wider part of the saddle. Is that a male-shaped saddle? It looks it might be kind of narrow. On Monday, September 22, 2014 4:10:59 PM UTC-7, Jim Bronson wrote: That's a 50mm extension Technomic that's on there. She definitely doesn't want the bars farther away. She wants to ride upright. On Sep 22, 2014 5:58 PM, Bill Lindsay tape...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: With that much seatpost showing, it's no wonder she wanted to get her bars higher. Is the frame a couple sizes too small? No expensive wheel conversions on bikes that don't fit. Maybe that Riv deadstock Nitto stem and an alba bar would get her upright without scrunching her up. Stem http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/st5ds-2513.htm On Monday, September 22, 2014 3:31:02 PM UTC-7, Jim Bronson wrote: She says it's comfortable this way. I think it's time to ditch the drops. Any suggestions? I showed her some pics of flat bars that looked sorta like Albatross bars with thumbies except more plasticy and she says she wants those rather than bar-ends. In other words I think she'd enjoy the bike better Rivved-out. Thoughts? Please don't suggest 650b conversionyet ;) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
