Re: [RBW] Re: Okay I get it now.
Thanks for that! My cat preferred the boxes stuff came in... http://www.flickr.com/photos/40738390@N08/6407440383/in/photostream Lost her not long after that pic was taken...B-( Steve On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 11:31 AM, Ron Mc bulldog...@gmail.com wrote: everyone should have a chifferobe on their bike. https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Q6mnvf5jCuQ/UP_57ZBzwwI/AbM/yxh3ehF8fcw/s1600/aP1180003.jpg Even my cat likes it On Monday, January 28, 2013 9:58:27 AM UTC-6, Cyclofiend Jim wrote: On Monday, January 28, 2013 6:53:02 AM UTC-8, Ron Mc wrote: something I discovered pedaling into the teeth of a beating south wind this weekend - a tall rando bag acts as a faring, and reduces drag. Seriously, it directs the wind flow and reduces the parachute effect of your torso and thighs. It was also a great place to stuff my layers as the day and I both warmed up. IIRC, there was an early BQ which did a low speed wind tunnel test of various set ups. ahhh - here ya go: http://janheine.wordpress.com/**2012/05/02/aerodynamics-of-** real-world-bicycles/http://janheine.wordpress.com/2012/05/02/aerodynamics-of-real-world-bicycles/ - J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Okay I get it now.
I don't see it as thread jacking. That sounds so rude. So inconsiderate. We're just a little tangential... --mike On Monday, January 28, 2013 2:21:12 PM UTC-8, William wrote: This thread has veered way off topic EPIC threadjacking, no question. Bill One man's threadjacking is another man's violent segue Lindsay -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Okay I get it now.
Steve, that's where I got the idea. She's into every box. When I set a soft lunchbox size cooler on the kitchen counter and turn around, she's inside it before I can put water bottles in. On Wednesday, January 30, 2013 8:18:27 AM UTC-6, stevef wrote: Thanks for that! My cat preferred the boxes stuff came in... http://www.flickr.com/photos/40738390@N08/6407440383/in/photostream Lost her not long after that pic was taken...B-( Steve -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Okay I get it now.
On Mon, 2013-01-28 at 06:53 -0800, Ron Mc wrote: something I discovered pedaling into the teeth of a beating south wind this weekend - a tall rando bag acts as a faring, and reduces drag. Seriously, it directs the wind flow and reduces the parachute effect of your torso and thighs. It was also a great place to stuff my layers as the day and I both warmed up. And in the cold weather, it keeps the frigid drafts off your naughty bits, too. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Okay I get it now.
That's cute. Segue-ing violently: How have any of y'all carried ~ 8 lb animals on your bikes? I'd like to find a way to carry my trained attack/guard Chihuahua (who pees in fright when I come to take him to the car) on my bikes. On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 9:31 AM, Ron Mc bulldog...@gmail.com wrote: everyone should have a chifferobe on their bike. https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Q6mnvf5jCuQ/UP_57ZBzwwI/AbM/yxh3ehF8fcw/s1600/aP1180003.jpg Even my cat likes it On Monday, January 28, 2013 9:58:27 AM UTC-6, Cyclofiend Jim wrote: On Monday, January 28, 2013 6:53:02 AM UTC-8, Ron Mc wrote: something I discovered pedaling into the teeth of a beating south wind this weekend - a tall rando bag acts as a faring, and reduces drag. Seriously, it directs the wind flow and reduces the parachute effect of your torso and thighs. It was also a great place to stuff my layers as the day and I both warmed up. IIRC, there was an early BQ which did a low speed wind tunnel test of various set ups. ahhh - here ya go: http://janheine.wordpress.com/**2012/05/02/aerodynamics-of-** real-world-bicycles/http://janheine.wordpress.com/2012/05/02/aerodynamics-of-real-world-bicycles/ - J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Okay I get it now.
BTW: My question is serious. I don't have and don't want a front platform rack, but my Fargo has front low riders and a rear Logo. I suppose I could just stuff him into the Sackville on the Riv -- he likes to burrow -- but I'd hate to get pee stains on it. On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 9:40 AM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: That's cute. Segue-ing violently: How have any of y'all carried ~ 8 lb animals on your bikes? I'd like to find a way to carry my trained attack/guard Chihuahua (who pees in fright when I come to take him to the car) on my bikes. On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 9:31 AM, Ron Mc bulldog...@gmail.com wrote: everyone should have a chifferobe on their bike. https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Q6mnvf5jCuQ/UP_57ZBzwwI/AbM/yxh3ehF8fcw/s1600/aP1180003.jpg Even my cat likes it On Monday, January 28, 2013 9:58:27 AM UTC-6, Cyclofiend Jim wrote: On Monday, January 28, 2013 6:53:02 AM UTC-8, Ron Mc wrote: something I discovered pedaling into the teeth of a beating south wind this weekend - a tall rando bag acts as a faring, and reduces drag. Seriously, it directs the wind flow and reduces the parachute effect of your torso and thighs. It was also a great place to stuff my layers as the day and I both warmed up. IIRC, there was an early BQ which did a low speed wind tunnel test of various set ups. ahhh - here ya go: http://janheine.wordpress.com/**2012/05/02/aerodynamics-of-** real-world-bicycles/http://janheine.wordpress.com/2012/05/02/aerodynamics-of-real-world-bicycles/ - J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Okay I get it now.
Hey Patrick, I ride with my Chihuahua Dirk in one of these: http://www.timbuk2.com/tb2/products/mutt-mover-dog-backpack He loves it and gets really excited when I bring it out to pedal him to doggy daycare. http://www.flickr.com/photos/41335973@N00/8123497062/ --mike On Monday, January 28, 2013 8:40:45 AM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote: That's cute. Segue-ing violently: How have any of y'all carried ~ 8 lb animals on your bikes? I'd like to find a way to carry my trained attack/guard Chihuahua (who pees in fright when I come to take him to the car) on my bikes. On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 9:31 AM, Ron Mc bulld...@gmail.com javascript:wrote: everyone should have a chifferobe on their bike. https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Q6mnvf5jCuQ/UP_57ZBzwwI/AbM/yxh3ehF8fcw/s1600/aP1180003.jpg Even my cat likes it On Monday, January 28, 2013 9:58:27 AM UTC-6, Cyclofiend Jim wrote: On Monday, January 28, 2013 6:53:02 AM UTC-8, Ron Mc wrote: something I discovered pedaling into the teeth of a beating south wind this weekend - a tall rando bag acts as a faring, and reduces drag. Seriously, it directs the wind flow and reduces the parachute effect of your torso and thighs. It was also a great place to stuff my layers as the day and I both warmed up. IIRC, there was an early BQ which did a low speed wind tunnel test of various set ups. ahhh - here ya go: http://janheine.wordpress.com/**2012/05/02/aerodynamics-of-** real-world-bicycles/http://janheine.wordpress.com/2012/05/02/aerodynamics-of-real-world-bicycles/ - J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Okay I get it now.
That's great -- must look it up. Tell me: does it work only with upright bars, or will it work at a 45* back angle, as on the hoods of drop bars. Nicco thanks you. On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 9:47 AM, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Patrick, I ride with my Chihuahua Dirk in one of these: http://www.timbuk2.com/tb2/products/mutt-mover-dog-backpack He loves it and gets really excited when I bring it out to pedal him to doggy daycare. http://www.flickr.com/photos/41335973@N00/8123497062/ --mike On Monday, January 28, 2013 8:40:45 AM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote: That's cute. Segue-ing violently: How have any of y'all carried ~ 8 lb animals on your bikes? I'd like to find a way to carry my trained attack/guard Chihuahua (who pees in fright when I come to take him to the car) on my bikes. On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 9:31 AM, Ron Mc bulld...@gmail.com wrote: everyone should have a chifferobe on their bike. https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Q6mnvf5jCuQ/UP_57ZBzwwI/AbM/yxh3ehF8fcw/s1600/aP1180003.jpg Even my cat likes it On Monday, January 28, 2013 9:58:27 AM UTC-6, Cyclofiend Jim wrote: On Monday, January 28, 2013 6:53:02 AM UTC-8, Ron Mc wrote: something I discovered pedaling into the teeth of a beating south wind this weekend - a tall rando bag acts as a faring, and reduces drag. Seriously, it directs the wind flow and reduces the parachute effect of your torso and thighs. It was also a great place to stuff my layers as the day and I both warmed up. IIRC, there was an early BQ which did a low speed wind tunnel test of various set ups. ahhh - here ya go: http://janheine.wordpress.com/2012/05/02/aerodynamics-of-**rea** l-world-bicycles/http://janheine.wordpress.com/2012/05/02/aerodynamics-of-real-world-bicycles/ - J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.**com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bun...@** googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=enhttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_outhttps://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out . -- - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/**index.htmlhttp://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Okay I get it now.
Patrick, if he likes the ride, I think he would sit just fine in a tall rando bag. Nantucket bike basket makes a big wicker pet carrier with a wire basket cage. On Monday, January 28, 2013 10:58:40 AM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote: That's great -- must look it up. Tell me: does it work only with upright bars, or will it work at a 45* back angle, as on the hoods of drop bars. Nicco thanks you. On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 9:47 AM, Mike mjaw...@gmail.com javascript:wrote: Hey Patrick, I ride with my Chihuahua Dirk in one of these: http://www.timbuk2.com/tb2/products/mutt-mover-dog-backpack He loves it and gets really excited when I bring it out to pedal him to doggy daycare. http://www.flickr.com/photos/41335973@N00/8123497062/ --mike On Monday, January 28, 2013 8:40:45 AM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote: That's cute. Segue-ing violently: How have any of y'all carried ~ 8 lb animals on your bikes? I'd like to find a way to carry my trained attack/guard Chihuahua (who pees in fright when I come to take him to the car) on my bikes. On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 9:31 AM, Ron Mc bulld...@gmail.com wrote: everyone should have a chifferobe on their bike. https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Q6mnvf5jCuQ/UP_57ZBzwwI/AbM/yxh3ehF8fcw/s1600/aP1180003.jpg Even my cat likes it On Monday, January 28, 2013 9:58:27 AM UTC-6, Cyclofiend Jim wrote: On Monday, January 28, 2013 6:53:02 AM UTC-8, Ron Mc wrote: something I discovered pedaling into the teeth of a beating south wind this weekend - a tall rando bag acts as a faring, and reduces drag. Seriously, it directs the wind flow and reduces the parachute effect of your torso and thighs. It was also a great place to stuff my layers as the day and I both warmed up. IIRC, there was an early BQ which did a low speed wind tunnel test of various set ups. ahhh - here ya go: http://janheine.wordpress.com/2012/05/02/aerodynamics-of-**rea** l-world-bicycles/http://janheine.wordpress.com/2012/05/02/aerodynamics-of-real-world-bicycles/ - J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.**com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bun...@** googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=enhttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_outhttps://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out . -- - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/**index.htmlhttp://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Okay I get it now.
Thanks, Ron. I don't have the sort of front rack that will support a rando bag and, also, I'd like something that I could use with different bikes. A backpack seems to be a good idea for this. On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 10:03 AM, Ron Mc bulldog...@gmail.com wrote: Patrick, if he likes the ride, I think he would sit just fine in a tall rando bag. Nantucket bike basket makes a big wicker pet carrier with a wire basket cage. On Monday, January 28, 2013 10:58:40 AM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote: That's great -- must look it up. Tell me: does it work only with upright bars, or will it work at a 45* back angle, as on the hoods of drop bars. Nicco thanks you. On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 9:47 AM, Mike mjaw...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Patrick, I ride with my Chihuahua Dirk in one of these: http://www.timbuk2.com/tb2/**products/mutt-mover-dog-**backpackhttp://www.timbuk2.com/tb2/products/mutt-mover-dog-backpack He loves it and gets really excited when I bring it out to pedal him to doggy daycare. http://www.flickr.com/photos/**41335973@N00/8123497062/http://www.flickr.com/photos/41335973@N00/8123497062/ --mike On Monday, January 28, 2013 8:40:45 AM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote: That's cute. Segue-ing violently: How have any of y'all carried ~ 8 lb animals on your bikes? I'd like to find a way to carry my trained attack/guard Chihuahua (who pees in fright when I come to take him to the car) on my bikes. On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 9:31 AM, Ron Mc bulld...@gmail.com wrote: everyone should have a chifferobe on their bike. https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Q6mnvf5jCuQ/UP_57ZBzwwI/AbM/yxh3ehF8fcw/s1600/aP1180003.jpg Even my cat likes it On Monday, January 28, 2013 9:58:27 AM UTC-6, Cyclofiend Jim wrote: On Monday, January 28, 2013 6:53:02 AM UTC-8, Ron Mc wrote: something I discovered pedaling into the teeth of a beating south wind this weekend - a tall rando bag acts as a faring, and reduces drag. Seriously, it directs the wind flow and reduces the parachute effect of your torso and thighs. It was also a great place to stuff my layers as the day and I both warmed up. IIRC, there was an early BQ which did a low speed wind tunnel test of various set ups. ahhh - here ya go: http://janheine.wordpress.com/**2012/05/02/aerodynamics-of-**rea* ***l-world-bicycles/http://janheine.wordpress.com/2012/05/02/aerodynamics-of-real-world-bicycles/ - J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.**com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bun...@** googlegroups**.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/**group** /rbw-owners-bunch?hl=enhttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/**grou**ps/opt_outhttps://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out . -- - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/**i**ndex.htmlhttp://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.**com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bun...@** googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=enhttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_outhttps://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out . -- - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/**index.htmlhttp://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Okay I get it now.
agree, that's really cool - just throwing out what I knew On Monday, January 28, 2013 11:09:48 AM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote: Thanks, Ron. I don't have the sort of front rack that will support a rando bag and, also, I'd like something that I could use with different bikes. A backpack seems to be a good idea for this. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Okay I get it now.
On Monday, January 28, 2013 8:58:40 AM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote: That's great -- must look it up. Tell me: does it work only with upright bars, or will it work at a 45* back angle, as on the hoods of drop bars. It works great with upright bars, no doubt about that. I've used it when riding my LHT which has drop bars but they are level with the saddle. I'm definitely leaning more forward but I don't think there are any issues. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Okay I get it now.
Great. The new Midge on the Fargo is 2 cm above the saddle. Before I plunk down, does anyone have recommendations or suggestions for other makes, or are there any rear panniers for dogs? On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 10:17 AM, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday, January 28, 2013 8:58:40 AM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote: That's great -- must look it up. Tell me: does it work only with upright bars, or will it work at a 45* back angle, as on the hoods of drop bars. It works great with upright bars, no doubt about that. I've used it when riding my LHT which has drop bars but they are level with the saddle. I'm definitely leaning more forward but I don't think there are any issues. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Okay I get it now.
Anecdote, illustrating how *not* to carry your pets: When I was married my wife and I owned a tandem, to which I fixed a milk crate to carry our two Shi Tzu, fastened down with shortened leashes. One one early ride the female decided to take a dive over the side and ended up hanging by her neck down the left side of the bike, kicking madly. Of course I panicked and hit the brakes, whereupon we all fell over -- on the left side. The dog and the wife were, luckily, not hurt, but it was close. I suffered the usual abrasions and bruises. On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 10:18 AM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Great. The new Midge on the Fargo is 2 cm above the saddle. Before I plunk down, does anyone have recommendations or suggestions for other makes, or are there any rear panniers for dogs? On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 10:17 AM, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday, January 28, 2013 8:58:40 AM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote: That's great -- must look it up. Tell me: does it work only with upright bars, or will it work at a 45* back angle, as on the hoods of drop bars. It works great with upright bars, no doubt about that. I've used it when riding my LHT which has drop bars but they are level with the saddle. I'm definitely leaning more forward but I don't think there are any issues. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Okay I get it now.
On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 10:18 AM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Great. The new Midge on the Fargo is 2 cm above the saddle. Before I plunk down, does anyone have recommendations or suggestions for other makes, or are there any rear panniers for dogs? I've seen open top grocery panniers used for small dogs. But with one that pees from fright, I would think the best option is something like an Ortlieb, i.e., made like a dry bag so you can hose it out easily. Or maybe that's a sign you should leave the dog at home? jim m wc ca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
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These things exist: http://www.pets2bed.com/site/1405195/product/FLM-02 I found one at a yard sale and haven't used it to cary a dog (mine weighs 45 lbs) but it seems pretty stable and comes on and off the bike easily. Just a couple straps around the handlebars, and there is this support thing that just rests against the head tube. That website has an entire category for these things: http://www.pets2bed.com/site/1405195/page/888771 Paul On Monday, January 28, 2013 11:40:45 AM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: That's cute. Segue-ing violently: How have any of y'all carried ~ 8 lb animals on your bikes? I'd like to find a way to carry my trained attack/guard Chihuahua (who pees in fright when I come to take him to the car) on my bikes. On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 9:31 AM, Ron Mc bulld...@gmail.com javascript:wrote: everyone should have a chifferobe on their bike. https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Q6mnvf5jCuQ/UP_57ZBzwwI/AbM/yxh3ehF8fcw/s1600/aP1180003.jpg Even my cat likes it On Monday, January 28, 2013 9:58:27 AM UTC-6, Cyclofiend Jim wrote: On Monday, January 28, 2013 6:53:02 AM UTC-8, Ron Mc wrote: something I discovered pedaling into the teeth of a beating south wind this weekend - a tall rando bag acts as a faring, and reduces drag. Seriously, it directs the wind flow and reduces the parachute effect of your torso and thighs. It was also a great place to stuff my layers as the day and I both warmed up. IIRC, there was an early BQ which did a low speed wind tunnel test of various set ups. ahhh - here ya go: http://janheine.wordpress.com/**2012/05/02/aerodynamics-of-** real-world-bicycles/http://janheine.wordpress.com/2012/05/02/aerodynamics-of-real-world-bicycles/ - J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
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Thanks. I actually bought a discount Herse a couple of years ago and got a big rack and custom bag to carry Nico, but he didn't like it and I found that I didn't like the big front rack and front loading -- even on a Herse. The Timbuktu looks like a very good solution since (1) I don't need a dedicated bike setup and (2) I hear that animals feel more secure if they are nestled against you back. (Nico is an emotional wimp, trained killer or no.) Am planning to try it. On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 10:54 AM, Paul paulgclif...@gmail.com wrote: These things exist: http://www.pets2bed.com/site/1405195/product/FLM-02 I found one at a yard sale and haven't used it to cary a dog (mine weighs 45 lbs) but it seems pretty stable and comes on and off the bike easily. Just a couple straps around the handlebars, and there is this support thing that just rests against the head tube. That website has an entire category for these things: http://www.pets2bed.com/site/1405195/page/888771 Paul On Monday, January 28, 2013 11:40:45 AM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: That's cute. Segue-ing violently: How have any of y'all carried ~ 8 lb animals on your bikes? I'd like to find a way to carry my trained attack/guard Chihuahua (who pees in fright when I come to take him to the car) on my bikes. On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 9:31 AM, Ron Mc bulld...@gmail.com wrote: everyone should have a chifferobe on their bike. https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Q6mnvf5jCuQ/UP_57ZBzwwI/AbM/yxh3ehF8fcw/s1600/aP1180003.jpg Even my cat likes it On Monday, January 28, 2013 9:58:27 AM UTC-6, Cyclofiend Jim wrote: On Monday, January 28, 2013 6:53:02 AM UTC-8, Ron Mc wrote: something I discovered pedaling into the teeth of a beating south wind this weekend - a tall rando bag acts as a faring, and reduces drag. Seriously, it directs the wind flow and reduces the parachute effect of your torso and thighs. It was also a great place to stuff my layers as the day and I both warmed up. IIRC, there was an early BQ which did a low speed wind tunnel test of various set ups. ahhh - here ya go: http://janheine.wordpress.com/2012/05/02/aerodynamics-of-**rea** l-world-bicycles/http://janheine.wordpress.com/2012/05/02/aerodynamics-of-real-world-bicycles/ - J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.**com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bun...@** googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=enhttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_outhttps://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out . -- - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/**index.htmlhttp://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Okay I get it now.
One advantage of the front-mount solution to consider is that having your dog in front of you will allow you to talk to and pet him/her etc and thus help ease any anxiety. I have trianed my 15 lb terrier to ride happily in a front wald basket (either rack-supported or with the wald struts -he's too heavy for any cantilever or hanging options) and being able to pet him and give him encouragement - I actually fed him small treats every few minutes in our first rides around the block - was a huge help in getting him comfortable. -Pete in CT On Monday, January 28, 2013 2:04:56 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: Thanks. I actually bought a discount Herse a couple of years ago and got a big rack and custom bag to carry Nico, but he didn't like it and I found that I didn't like the big front rack and front loading -- even on a Herse. The Timbuktu looks like a very good solution since (1) I don't need a dedicated bike setup and (2) I hear that animals feel more secure if they are nestled against you back. (Nico is an emotional wimp, trained killer or no.) Am planning to try it. On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 10:54 AM, Paul paulgc...@gmail.com javascript:wrote: These things exist: http://www.pets2bed.com/site/1405195/product/FLM-02 I found one at a yard sale and haven't used it to cary a dog (mine weighs 45 lbs) but it seems pretty stable and comes on and off the bike easily. Just a couple straps around the handlebars, and there is this support thing that just rests against the head tube. That website has an entire category for these things: http://www.pets2bed.com/site/1405195/page/888771 Paul On Monday, January 28, 2013 11:40:45 AM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: That's cute. Segue-ing violently: How have any of y'all carried ~ 8 lb animals on your bikes? I'd like to find a way to carry my trained attack/guard Chihuahua (who pees in fright when I come to take him to the car) on my bikes. On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 9:31 AM, Ron Mc bulld...@gmail.com wrote: everyone should have a chifferobe on their bike. https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Q6mnvf5jCuQ/UP_57ZBzwwI/AbM/yxh3ehF8fcw/s1600/aP1180003.jpg Even my cat likes it On Monday, January 28, 2013 9:58:27 AM UTC-6, Cyclofiend Jim wrote: On Monday, January 28, 2013 6:53:02 AM UTC-8, Ron Mc wrote: something I discovered pedaling into the teeth of a beating south wind this weekend - a tall rando bag acts as a faring, and reduces drag. Seriously, it directs the wind flow and reduces the parachute effect of your torso and thighs. It was also a great place to stuff my layers as the day and I both warmed up. IIRC, there was an early BQ which did a low speed wind tunnel test of various set ups. ahhh - here ya go: http://janheine.wordpress.com/2012/05/02/aerodynamics-of-**rea** l-world-bicycles/http://janheine.wordpress.com/2012/05/02/aerodynamics-of-real-world-bicycles/ - J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.**com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bun...@** googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=enhttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_outhttps://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out . -- - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/**index.htmlhttp://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Okay I get it now.
On Monday, January 28, 2013 11:40:45 AM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: That's cute. Segue-ing violently: How have any of y'all carried ~ 8 lb animals on your bikes? I'd like to find a way to carry my trained attack/guard Chihuahua (who pees in fright when I come to take him to the car) on my bikes. This thread has veered way off topic, but sometimes I ride with my 20lb dog in my front basket: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedv=iYzLPWJfqqo -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Okay I get it now.
This thread has veered way off topic EPIC threadjacking, no question. Bill One man's threadjacking is another man's violent segue Lindsay -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
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Dirk didn't like riding in the trailer but then I tried riding with him in a messenger bag and he seemed to like that because he was next to me that seemed to calm him down. I'm very happy with the bag, it's not perfect but works well enough. I wish there were more pockets for storing things like tools, tubs, dog treats, leash, etc. There is one pocket in it but if that's packed it pushes up against Dirk. --mike On Monday, January 28, 2013 9:18:45 AM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote: Great. The new Midge on the Fargo is 2 cm above the saddle. Before I plunk down, does anyone have recommendations or suggestions for other makes, or are there any rear panniers for dogs? On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 10:17 AM, Mike mjaw...@gmail.com javascript:wrote: On Monday, January 28, 2013 8:58:40 AM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote: That's great -- must look it up. Tell me: does it work only with upright bars, or will it work at a 45* back angle, as on the hoods of drop bars. It works great with upright bars, no doubt about that. I've used it when riding my LHT which has drop bars but they are level with the saddle. I'm definitely leaning more forward but I don't think there are any issues. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Okay I get it now.
That's why I prefaced it with the remark about the segue. I suppose I ought to have started a new thread. On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 3:21 PM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: This thread has veered way off topic EPIC threadjacking, no question. Bill One man's threadjacking is another man's violent segue Lindsay -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
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Great adventure and story! On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 7:08 PM, Michael john11.2...@gmail.com wrote: You are one tough man, Manny! I love reading about these logistical things for rides because it will help me to just keep riding if I run into difficulty, and not just give up right off the bat. Great to see what can be done with sneakers and a broken shift lever with the right frame of mind. Applause, applause. Sounds like you had a great ride. BTW, you should give that Silver lever to Grant so he can do an autopsy on it and post the results on the blug. He used to do them for broken bikes/parts in the Rivreaders. Would be fun to see the report on it. When you hand it to him, tell him it just died under you. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.