Re: [RBW] Re: Saddlebag Support Suggestions.

2015-05-14 Thread Ron Mc
I think the straps would tear before the saddle loops would bend

On Wednesday, May 13, 2015 at 3:49:34 PM UTC-5, Avery Wilson wrote:

 I imagine a good stout seat post and steel-railed leather saddle is good 
 for riders at least 275lbs? So, the whole system should be good for a 200lb 
 rider plus some bag weight.. I can't imagine the loops bending with even 
 50lbs on them. 


  

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Re: [RBW] Re: Saddlebag Support Suggestions.

2015-05-14 Thread Ron Mc
David, maybe you need to try the Nitto R12 - Bens cycle has the best 
shipped price.  Though it's only rated for 2kg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/Raleigh/Viner/aP4250003.jpg


On Thursday, May 14, 2015 at 11:37:58 AM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote:

 I think the straps would tear before the saddle loops would bend

 On Wednesday, May 13, 2015 at 3:49:34 PM UTC-5, Avery Wilson wrote:

 I imagine a good stout seat post and steel-railed leather saddle is good 
 for riders at least 275lbs? So, the whole system should be good for a 200lb 
 rider plus some bag weight.. I can't imagine the loops bending with even 
 50lbs on them. 


  

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Re: [RBW] Re: Saddlebag Support Suggestions.

2015-05-13 Thread Jay in Tel Aviv
BTW It is usually much less expensive to purchase Carridice bags and racks 
from UK websites. Any UK products really, Shipping is often quite low or 
free, and you are expempt from the 21% UK VAT. I use SJS a lot. 
On Wednesday, May 13, 2015 at 12:10:53 PM UTC+3, Jay in Tel Aviv wrote:

 I commute with a Carradice Super C. For years I used the following setup 
 without any major issues:
 1. The q/r mechanism of the bagman and an axiom journey rack on my main 
 commuting bike, a Sam Hillborne
 2. A bagman expedition q/r on the Brompton I use for backup
  
 Carradice recently came out with this 
 http://www.carradice.co.uk/index.php?page_id=productunder=rangeproduct_id=136
 The maximum weight is 6 kg vs 10 for the bagman, but I bought one anyway 
 and have been using it successfully for a few months now. 
 Commuting loads, not groceries.
  
 Jay

 On Wednesday, May 13, 2015 at 4:09:28 AM UTC+3, Avery Wilson wrote:

 Another vote for the standoff here. I've got the large Acorn saddlebag 
 (looks like a copy of carradice nelson)  that comes with the leather cuff 
 standoff, and it's just great! 



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Re: [RBW] Re: Saddlebag Support Suggestions.

2015-05-13 Thread Jay in Tel Aviv
I commute with a Carradice Super C. For years I used the following setup 
without any major issues:
1. The q/r mechanism of the bagman and an axiom journey rack on my main 
commuting bike, a Sam Hillborne
2. A bagman expedition q/r on the Brompton I use for backup
 
Carradice recently came out with this 
http://www.carradice.co.uk/index.php?page_id=productunder=rangeproduct_id=136
The maximum weight is 6 kg vs 10 for the bagman, but I bought one anyway 
and have been using it successfully for a few months now. 
Commuting loads, not groceries.
 
Jay

On Wednesday, May 13, 2015 at 4:09:28 AM UTC+3, Avery Wilson wrote:

 Another vote for the standoff here. I've got the large Acorn saddlebag 
 (looks like a copy of carradice nelson)  that comes with the leather cuff 
 standoff, and it's just great! 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Saddlebag Support Suggestions.

2015-05-13 Thread Jeff Lesperance
On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 4:32 PM, David Banzer daban...@gmail.com wrote:

 Bagman Expedition arrived today. I have a bag that'll work with it. Will
 give it a try with a moderate load and see.
 Other question: how much weight would be advisable on typical saddle loops
 (Brooks and SA specifically) and seatpost w/standoff?


I've been rolling with the Bagman Expedition QR + Camper longflap for a few
weeks with light/bulky loads, and based on the feedback from this
conversation, I definitely have some reservations about using it with
heftier loads, particularly offroad where it may be bumpier, even if I do
have a chance to cobble together additional struts as previously mentioned.

That being said, I think I have a better chance just sticking with the
built-in loops on my Brooks saddle plus a stand-off vs. trying to add a
rear rack to support the bag, because on the subject bike, a 60cm XOXO, the
bag will barely make contact with a rear rack when hung from the saddle,
unless the rack can be made to sit pretty high above the rear wheel. Does
anyone have experience with the Nitto NR-20 or NR-21 (
http://store.somafab.com/ninrrebagsu1.html)? It looks like that may sit
higher based on the rear canti mounts and in that it's specifically meant
as a rear bag support.

-Jeff
Silver Spring, MD

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Re: [RBW] Re: Saddlebag Support Suggestions.

2015-05-13 Thread Avery E Wilson
I imagine a good stout seat post and steel-railed leather saddle is good
for riders at least 275lbs? So, the whole system should be good for a 200lb
rider plus some bag weight.. I can't imagine the loops bending with even
50lbs on them.

Disclaimer : this is untested speculation, but I used to weigh 230, and had
a large saddlebag and no issues. I weigh 195 now with the acorn carradice
clone and standoff. Still no issues, but it's hard to fit more than
20-25lbs in/on that bag.
On May 13, 2015 4:32 PM, David Banzer daban...@gmail.com wrote:

 Bagman Expedition arrived today. I have a bag that'll work with it. Will
 give it a try with a moderate load and see.
 Other question: how much weight would be advisable on typical saddle loops
 (Brooks and SA specifically) and seatpost w/standoff?
 David
 Chicago

 On Monday, May 11, 2015 at 12:49:23 PM UTC-5, David Banzer wrote:

 I'd like to run a larger saddlebag on my Redwood for longer rides/short
 tours/commuting/grocery runs. There are upper rack mounts that I could
 utilize. Not really looking to put on a full rear rack, just something to
 support a Carradice Camper sized bag. I had a Hupe at one point on another
 bike, would consider it as a last resort.
 Any suggestions?
 David
 Chicago

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Re: [RBW] Re: Saddlebag Support Suggestions.

2015-05-12 Thread Tim Gavin
Leg rub can be minimized by adding a standoff to the strap around the
seat post.  Acorn uses a leather cuff; a piece of stiff rubber hose or PVC
works as well.

On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 12:54 PM, David Banzer daban...@gmail.com wrote:

 Shoot! Just ordered a Bagman Expedition as I had credit with Ben's Cycle
 and a $20 off coupon. I'll give it a shot with commuting loads and see.
 The problem I'm seeing with the Marks rack is that my frame is 65cm with
 the saddle up a bit, so I'm not sure that I can get it mounted high enough
 to support the bag.
 i might have to forego a support and just deal with bag sway and leg rub.
 Not the end of the world.
 David
 Chicago

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Re: [RBW] Re: Saddlebag Support Suggestions.

2015-05-12 Thread Avery Wilson
Another vote for the standoff here. I've got the large Acorn saddlebag (looks 
like a copy of carradice nelson)  that comes with the leather cuff standoff, 
and it's just great! 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Saddlebag Support Suggestions.

2015-05-12 Thread Mark Reimer
In layman's terms, 4.5 lbs is a six pack of beer. I've definitely put more
weight than that on my Mark's Rack though. Sometimes six just isn't enough.

On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 9:48 AM, Lungimsam john11.2...@gmail.com wrote:

 In the interest of safety, note that a Mark's rack is weight restricted to
 4.5 lbs., I think, according to the RBW site's description of it. And the
 RBW site gives very strong warnings about not overloading the racks they
 sell. Read here:
 http://www.rivbike.com/Racks-s/114.htm

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