Re: [RBW] Re: Saluki Re-Tired

['Eamon Nordquist' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I don't know about Kojaks, but Paselas are available in 650b x 42mm. I don't 
think there is a 38mm version, but I could be wrong.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Saluki Re-Tired

[lum gim fong]

Ive heard good things about paselas and kojacs.
Are they both made in 650b x 38-42mm?

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Re: [RBW] Re: Saluki Re-Tired

[Patrick Moore]

FWIW, if you want inexpensive tire, IME Kojaks are better-- rolling; well,
lets say Kojaks roll fully as well; certainly better in flat resistance and
longevity -- than Paselas.

On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 6:03 PM, 'Eamon Nordquist' via RBW Owners Bunch <
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> Agreed. Non-belted Paselas are still pretty good tires, and while I'd love
> some fancy pants expensive tires, my 700c x 28mm wire bead Pasela cost me a
> whopping $23 each. At least for my minimal weight (140lbs), I find the
> standard Paselas in 28-32mm ride as well as the 35mm ones with the "PT"
> protection.
>
> Eamon
>
> On Tuesday, October 3, 2017 at 3:36:40 PM UTC-7, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On 10/03/2017 05:31 PM, lum gim fong wrote:
>> > I could see someone weeping about the price of Compass tires.
>> >
>> >
>>
>> Well, if they don't fit the budget there are some decent choices at more
>> affordable prices.  I just bought a pair of 700x32C wire bead Paselas
>> for $50 to use on my '63 Jack Taylor this winter.  I'd say they're
>> easily 80% of the performance of a Stampede Pass std casing for less
>> than half the price, and still probably better than any tire that was
>> available for that bike in 27 x 1 1/4" when it was new.
>>
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>> USA
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Re: [RBW] Re: Saluki Re-Tired

['Eamon Nordquist' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Agreed. Non-belted Paselas are still pretty good tires, and while I'd love 
some fancy pants expensive tires, my 700c x 28mm wire bead Pasela cost me a 
whopping $23 each. At least for my minimal weight (140lbs), I find the 
standard Paselas in 28-32mm ride as well as the 35mm ones with the "PT" 
protection. 

Eamon

On Tuesday, October 3, 2017 at 3:36:40 PM UTC-7, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>
>
>
> On 10/03/2017 05:31 PM, lum gim fong wrote: 
> > I could see someone weeping about the price of Compass tires. 
> > 
> > 
>
> Well, if they don't fit the budget there are some decent choices at more 
> affordable prices.  I just bought a pair of 700x32C wire bead Paselas 
> for $50 to use on my '63 Jack Taylor this winter.  I'd say they're 
> easily 80% of the performance of a Stampede Pass std casing for less 
> than half the price, and still probably better than any tire that was 
> available for that bike in 27 x 1 1/4" when it was new. 
>
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> Alexandria, Virginia 
> USA 
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Saluki Re-Tired

[Steve Palincsar]

On 10/03/2017 05:31 PM, lum gim fong wrote:

I could see someone weeping about the price of Compass tires.




Well, if they don't fit the budget there are some decent choices at more 
affordable prices.  I just bought a pair of 700x32C wire bead Paselas 
for $50 to use on my '63 Jack Taylor this winter.  I'd say they're 
easily 80% of the performance of a Stampede Pass std casing for less 
than half the price, and still probably better than any tire that was 
available for that bike in 27 x 1 1/4" when it was new.


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Re: [RBW] Re: Saluki Re-Tired

[Tony DeFilippo]

Thanks Chris and Erl!

Hey Steve, yeah I have a number of now empty patch kits to attest to my 
poor skill in patching.  Of all the things to struggle with...  my success 
rate is extremely poor.  especially with glass punctures it should be 
pretty easy.  I've read that the Rema Tip Top stuff is pretty good but 
haven't tried it.  

Tony

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Re: [RBW] Re: Saluki Re-Tired

[Steve Palincsar]

On 10/03/2017 12:48 PM, Tony DeFilippo wrote:
The parimoto flats are not really an indictment of those tires but 
rather a reflection that the Mount Vernon Trail in vicinity of Reagan 
Nat'l Airport has had a ton of broken glass on the trails this year 
and it's just very hard on any tire.  I'm at risk with the Compass 
tires as well there but as I'll get into, at least I'm not going to be 
slapping $7-10 tube replacements in on a weekly basis.


You replace a tube with a new tube when you get a glass puncture?  I 
patch mine.


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Re: [RBW] Re: Saluki Re-Tired

[Tony DeFilippo]

Thanks Bill - the frame and fenders were powdercoated at the same time.  No
regrets there whatsoever, I love the matched fenders.

Thanks Kieran - yes those are the Paul Stoplights, took me a bit of
fiddling last time I changed handlebars to get them where I wanted but I
love the look and the power/modulation is pretty good right now.  No
weeping at all from the EL sidewall's, these are the new TL versions
though.  When I went tubeless on the non TL SBH EL's the sidewalls 'wept'
orange seal pretty impressively so there is a definite change to the casing.

On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 12:20 PM, Kieran J  wrote:

> Cool bike!
> Are those vintage Paul Stoplights you are running there?
> Any issues with weeping on the EL sidewalls?
>
> KJ
>
>
> On Tuesday, October 3, 2017 at 11:45:21 AM UTC-4, Tony DeFilippo wrote:
>>
>> Perhaps the better word choice would be 'renewed'... if you are tired of
>> gushing about Compass tires just skip this post.  My Saluki hasn't gotten
>> all that much love since my acquisition of the Jones Plus in February and
>> particularly while I was experimenting with the 29x2.35 Schwable 'Big One'
>> slicks on that frame (also an awesome experience).  That coupled with a
>> rash of flats on two different sets of Parimoto 38mm tires on the Saluki
>> over the summer and the long days making dyno lighting less of a must have
>> kept the bike in the garage quite a bit.  The parimoto flats are not really
>> an indictment of those tires but rather a reflection that the Mount Vernon
>> Trail in vicinity of Reagan Nat'l Airport has had a ton of broken glass on
>> the trails this year and it's just very hard on any tire.  I'm at risk with
>> the Compass tires as well there but as I'll get into, at least I'm not
>> going to be slapping $7-10 tube replacements in on a weekly basis.
>>
>> While I wasn't in any hurry to get rid of the Saluki I wasn't finding a
>> lot of excuses to ride it and mostly when I would I was nervous about my
>> next flat and the delay that would incur.  Any mechanical doubts about a
>> bike or car really detract from the use to me.  As luck would have it
>> Chirs(Pondero) and I had been going back and forth about his acquiring my
>> Bstone MB-5 as a DC town bike for when he is visiting his family here at
>> the same time that Compass announced that their Babyshoe Pass EL's were now
>> available in tubeless.  It just so happened that the MB-5 sale would
>> completely cover a new set of compass tires, a set of tire wipers and
>> another years BQ subscription... or at least close enough! :)
>>
>> The new BSP EL's locked up pretty easily on my Velocity A23 rims and upon
>> initial inflation to about 60psi to seat the beads measured a little over
>> 40mm.  I'm trying to run them around 25-30psi front and 40-50psi back right
>> now... I give the ranges because I've been plagued with different readings
>> from pretty much every gauge I own, a digital one, my floor pump and the
>> gauge on my compressor all read sometimes wildly different. I have the most
>> run time with the floor pump so I'm trying to trust that one.  the tires
>> have grown a bit in the 2 weeks they've been on the bike just from my
>> looking at the fender clearance but I haven't measured them.  Ride quality
>> is superb, not hugely different than how I remember the Hetre's or SBH's
>> actually and I'm not sure how much the tubeless really matters to the
>> feel.  My main motivation on the tubeless is that I'll have fewer flats and
>> at least not have to mess with tubes so often.  The biggest thing that has
>> struck me in my rides over the weekend and this week is how quiet they are
>> on the pavement.  Monday morning in the pre-dawn darkness all I could hear
>> on the bike was the cassette lightly clicking as I flew around Gravelly
>> Point... a really great feeling.
>>
>> Time will tell on the durability, obviously any of these light supple
>> tires compromise on protection from road debris but at least for now I'll
>> continue to risk it.  The result so far is I have ridden the Saluki at
>> every opportunity since the BSP's were mounted.  Couple pictures from
>> yesterday morning's solo coffee outside including a shot of my B Cyo
>> Premium headlight in case anyone was curious about that.  Short thoughts on
>> the B are it's a great wide light field, not the absolute brightest but
>> very good when it's really dark and definitely more than adequate for being
>> seen.
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