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Re: [RBW] Re: Thank you Rivendell

2022-09-25 Thread Patrick Moore

I've found friction shifting 10 as easy and precise with the right setups
as friction shifting 7 or 8, if not easier and more precise.

My experience bears on a very particular setup for 10, though: cogs more or
less in series, Suntour barcons (versus at least Silver 1s), short cage (8
sp) rd, close ratio cassette (but all my 7s and 8s and 9s were close ratio
too), and 11 speed chain.

I'll bet that the circa 2010 short cage Microshift rd on my Fargo some 9-10
years ago would shift this setup even better, but that was blown up by a
stick when on a dirt ride on my Fargo.

Oh, and over 20 years ago, but same experience with Retrofriction dt
shifters and close ratio Am Classic 10 speed casettes pulling same DA 7401
or 7402 rd: again, wonderfully crisp and precise shifting. But I actually
prefer the barcons because they require far less lever pull (about 90* or
just a bit more for 10 cogs).

On Thu, Sep 22, 2022 at 3:43 PM R Shannon  wrote:

> Hello Doug,
>
> Friction shifting (dt and bar end) has been my only method of changing
> gears with 7 and 8 speed cogs on my three bikes for so long that it feels
> natural and intuitive. I guess if I had more variety in my bikes/
> drivetrains i.e. 9-11 cogs, index shifting my experience might be different.
>
> Hope that helps.
> - Rich
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 22, 2022, at 10:54 AM, Doug H.  wrote:
>
> Thank you Rich. The description of shifting on Rivendell's website makes
> sense to me and I don't think I need a 9 speed cassette as I don't shift
> often to maintain a certain cadence. The one thing I'm still getting used
> to with friction shifting is that not every gear change requires as equal
> amount if shifter lever movement so that I imagine having only 7 gears in
> the rear will help facilitate muscle memory for the movement in various
> gears. Do you notice this as well when friction shifting?
> Doug
>
> On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 10:34:55 AM UTC-4 RichS wrote:
>
>> Hi Doug!
>>
>> As a fellow Dylan fan I offer my congratulations. I just installed a Jim
>> 7 speed cassette; I'm very pleased. I hope your setup works as well too.
>>
>> Best,
>> Rich in ATL
>>
>> On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 9:25:29 PM UTC-4 brok...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Indeed! That was a nice little surprise. I honestly thought maybe I
>>> hadn’t quite followed the contest directions to a “t”.
>>>
>>> I purchased some Nitto stuff; some bar plugs, and a lamp holder for my
>>> Edelux light I purchased from a fellow forum member.
>>>
>>> On Sep 21, 2022, at 8:30 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>>
>>> I got one, too, and one for the "name the author" contest. I thought
>>> I'd answered wrong or they'd forgotten about the whole idea! Now what am I
>>> gonna buy... 樂
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 5:09:28 PM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote:
>>>
 Rivendell recently posed a question on Instagram with a $20 reward for
 those who answered correctly. As a Bob Dylan fan I was able to answer
 correctly and just received my reward! I ordered a mini-triangle, two rolls
 of Newbaum tape and a 7 speed Jim cassette (11-36) to try on my Clem. I
 will be going from 2x9 to 2x7. I am hoping the friction shifting will be
 even better along with better chain lines. We shall see.


 Doug (Blowin' In the Wind)
 Athens, Ga

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Re: [RBW] Re: Thank you Rivendell

2022-09-22 Thread J J

Doug, I use Silver 2 shifters with 9-speed Rapid Rise RDs. The cable pull 
length/ratio changes when I pull to the smallest cogs. From the largest 
gear to, say, the fifth cog down, the cable pull amount is about the same 
from gear to gear. Going further down the sprocket definitely requires more 
cable pull. 
On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 5:43:25 PM UTC-4 RichS wrote:

> Hello Doug,
>
> Friction shifting (dt and bar end) has been my only method of changing 
> gears with 7 and 8 speed cogs on my three bikes for so long that it feels 
> natural and intuitive. I guess if I had more variety in my bikes/ 
> drivetrains i.e. 9-11 cogs, index shifting my experience might be different.
>
> Hope that helps.
> - Rich
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 22, 2022, at 10:54 AM, Doug H.  wrote:
>
> Thank you Rich. The description of shifting on Rivendell's website makes 
> sense to me and I don't think I need a 9 speed cassette as I don't shift 
> often to maintain a certain cadence. The one thing I'm still getting used 
> to with friction shifting is that not every gear change requires as equal 
> amount if shifter lever movement so that I imagine having only 7 gears in 
> the rear will help facilitate muscle memory for the movement in various 
> gears. Do you notice this as well when friction shifting?
>
> Doug
>
> On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 10:34:55 AM UTC-4 RichS wrote:
>
>> Hi Doug! 
>>
>> As a fellow Dylan fan I offer my congratulations. I just installed a Jim 
>> 7 speed cassette; I'm very pleased. I hope your setup works as well too.
>>
>> Best,
>> Rich in ATL
>>
>> On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 9:25:29 PM UTC-4 brok...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Indeed! That was a nice little surprise. I honestly thought maybe I 
>>> hadn’t quite followed the contest directions to a “t”.
>>>
>>> I purchased some Nitto stuff; some bar plugs, and a lamp holder for my 
>>> Edelux light I purchased from a fellow forum member.
>>>
>>> On Sep 21, 2022, at 8:30 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>>
>>> I got one, too, and one for the "name the author" contest. I thought 
>>> I'd answered wrong or they'd forgotten about the whole idea! Now what am I 
>>> gonna buy... 樂
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 5:09:28 PM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote:
>>>
 Rivendell recently posed a question on Instagram with a $20 reward for 
 those who answered correctly. As a Bob Dylan fan I was able to answer 
 correctly and just received my reward! I ordered a mini-triangle, two 
 rolls 
 of Newbaum tape and a 7 speed Jim cassette (11-36) to try on my Clem. I 
 will be going from 2x9 to 2x7. I am hoping the friction shifting will be 
 even better along with better chain lines. We shall see.


 Doug (Blowin' In the Wind)
 Athens, Ga

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Re: [RBW] Re: Thank you Rivendell

2022-09-22 Thread R Shannon

Hello Doug,

Friction shifting (dt and bar end) has been my only method of changing gears 
with 7 and 8 speed cogs on my three bikes for so long that it feels natural and 
intuitive. I guess if I had more variety in my bikes/ drivetrains i.e. 9-11 
cogs, index shifting my experience might be different.

Hope that helps.
- Rich

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 22, 2022, at 10:54 AM, Doug H.  wrote:
> 
> Thank you Rich. The description of shifting on Rivendell's website makes 
> sense to me and I don't think I need a 9 speed cassette as I don't shift 
> often to maintain a certain cadence. The one thing I'm still getting used to 
> with friction shifting is that not every gear change requires as equal amount 
> if shifter lever movement so that I imagine having only 7 gears in the rear 
> will help facilitate muscle memory for the movement in various gears. Do you 
> notice this as well when friction shifting?
> Doug
> 
>> On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 10:34:55 AM UTC-4 RichS wrote:
>> Hi Doug! 
>> 
>> As a fellow Dylan fan I offer my congratulations. I just installed a Jim 7 
>> speed cassette; I'm very pleased. I hope your setup works as well too.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Rich in ATL
>> 
>>> On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 9:25:29 PM UTC-4 brok...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>> Indeed! That was a nice little surprise. I honestly thought maybe I hadn’t 
>>> quite followed the contest directions to a “t”.
>>> 
>>> I purchased some Nitto stuff; some bar plugs, and a lamp holder for my 
>>> Edelux light I purchased from a fellow forum member.
>>> 
> On Sep 21, 2022, at 8:30 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
> 
 I got one, too, and one for the "name the author" contest. I thought I'd 
 answered wrong or they'd forgotten about the whole idea! Now what am I 
 gonna buy... 樂
>>> 
 
 
>> On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 5:09:28 PM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote:
>> Rivendell recently posed a question on Instagram with a $20 reward for 
>> those who answered correctly. As a Bob Dylan fan I was able to answer 
>> correctly and just received my reward! I ordered a mini-triangle, two 
>> rolls of Newbaum tape and a 7 speed Jim cassette (11-36) to try on my 
>> Clem. I will be going from 2x9 to 2x7. I am hoping the friction shifting 
>> will be even better along with better chain lines. We shall see.
>> 
>> 
>> Doug (Blowin' In the Wind)
>> Athens, Ga
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Re: [RBW] Re: Thank you Rivendell

2022-09-22 Thread Doug H.

Thank you Rich. The description of shifting on Rivendell's website makes 
sense to me and I don't think I need a 9 speed cassette as I don't shift 
often to maintain a certain cadence. The one thing I'm still getting used 
to with friction shifting is that not every gear change requires as equal 
amount if shifter lever movement so that I imagine having only 7 gears in 
the rear will help facilitate muscle memory for the movement in various 
gears. Do you notice this as well when friction shifting?
Doug

On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 10:34:55 AM UTC-4 RichS wrote:

> Hi Doug! 
>
> As a fellow Dylan fan I offer my congratulations. I just installed a Jim 7 
> speed cassette; I'm very pleased. I hope your setup works as well too.
>
> Best,
> Rich in ATL
>
> On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 9:25:29 PM UTC-4 brok...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Indeed! That was a nice little surprise. I honestly thought maybe I 
>> hadn’t quite followed the contest directions to a “t”.
>>
>> I purchased some Nitto stuff; some bar plugs, and a lamp holder for my 
>> Edelux light I purchased from a fellow forum member.
>>
>> On Sep 21, 2022, at 8:30 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>
>> I got one, too, and one for the "name the author" contest. I thought I'd 
>> answered wrong or they'd forgotten about the whole idea! Now what am I 
>> gonna buy... 樂
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 5:09:28 PM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote:
>>
>>> Rivendell recently posed a question on Instagram with a $20 reward for 
>>> those who answered correctly. As a Bob Dylan fan I was able to answer 
>>> correctly and just received my reward! I ordered a mini-triangle, two rolls 
>>> of Newbaum tape and a 7 speed Jim cassette (11-36) to try on my Clem. I 
>>> will be going from 2x9 to 2x7. I am hoping the friction shifting will be 
>>> even better along with better chain lines. We shall see.
>>>
>>>
>>> Doug (Blowin' In the Wind)
>>> Athens, Ga
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Thank you Rivendell

2022-09-22 Thread RichS

Hi Doug! 

As a fellow Dylan fan I offer my congratulations. I just installed a Jim 7 
speed cassette; I'm very pleased. I hope your setup works as well too.

Best,
Rich in ATL

On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 9:25:29 PM UTC-4 brok...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Indeed! That was a nice little surprise. I honestly thought maybe I hadn’t 
> quite followed the contest directions to a “t”.
>
> I purchased some Nitto stuff; some bar plugs, and a lamp holder for my 
> Edelux light I purchased from a fellow forum member.
>
> On Sep 21, 2022, at 8:30 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>
> I got one, too, and one for the "name the author" contest. I thought I'd 
> answered wrong or they'd forgotten about the whole idea! Now what am I 
> gonna buy... 樂
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 5:09:28 PM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote:
>
>> Rivendell recently posed a question on Instagram with a $20 reward for 
>> those who answered correctly. As a Bob Dylan fan I was able to answer 
>> correctly and just received my reward! I ordered a mini-triangle, two rolls 
>> of Newbaum tape and a 7 speed Jim cassette (11-36) to try on my Clem. I 
>> will be going from 2x9 to 2x7. I am hoping the friction shifting will be 
>> even better along with better chain lines. We shall see.
>>
>>
>> Doug (Blowin' In the Wind)
>> Athens, Ga
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Thank you Rivendell

2022-09-21 Thread Brian Turner

Indeed! That was a nice little surprise. I honestly thought maybe I hadn’t quite followed the contest directions to a “t”.I purchased some Nitto stuff; some bar plugs, and a lamp holder for my Edelux light I purchased from a fellow forum member.On Sep 21, 2022, at 8:30 PM, Joe Bernard wrote:I got one, too, and one for the "name the author" contest. I thought I'd answered wrong or they'd forgotten about the whole idea! Now what am I gonna buy... 樂On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 5:09:28 PM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote:Rivendell recently posed a question on Instagram with a $20 reward for those who answered correctly. As a Bob Dylan fan I was able to answer correctly and just received my reward! I ordered a mini-triangle, two rolls of Newbaum tape and a 7 speed Jim cassette (11-36) to try on my Clem. I will be going from 2x9 to 2x7. I am hoping the friction shifting will be even better along with better chain lines. We shall see.Doug (Blowin' In the Wind)Athens, Ga

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