Having been once totally knocked off the road by a teen driver about 17
years ago, the answer isabsolutely!!!
On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 12:05 PM, Jeremy Till jeremy.t...@gmail.com wrote:
Is that the cyclists' version of the old pilots' adage, any landing
you can walk away from...?
On Nov 21, 6:58 am, robert zeidler zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote:
...and that any ride you come back from alive is a good ride!
On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 11:51 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com
wrote:
I did a quite scientific study of this earlier this summer. The
results: Not
much difference.
http://cyclotourist.blogspot.com/2010/05/bike-servations.html
The good news is that both bikes are a lot of fun to ride!
Almost got out for a ride today, but clear spells always seemed to line
up
with day-care duties.
On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 8:01 PM, charlie charles_v...@hotmail.com
wrote:
Yea reallythe one pound frame weight diff can't make one
bike a thudder (whatever that means) its got to be the combination
of elements that influence ride qualities. As far as performance goes
you'd have to measure it over a long period and have direct
comparisons which is really hard to do. Headwinds, my energy,
hydration etc. there are so many variables that it just seems too
difficult to make comparisons. I have several bikes that range in
weight and components and even type and there seems to be no rhyme or
reason as to why one days fast ride happens on the heavy bike and
the next ride on the race bike is actually slower. Actually I don't
even care I just want a derailleurless frame that will take
some use buy a middle aged, overweight guy who wants to ride to work
in the spring and summer and not have it prematurely crack somewhere.
A little thicker tubing makes me feel better about my purchase in the
long run...perhaps its a non issue in the real world as it appears
some of you are riding your QB's loaded with groceries or hopping ruts
and rocks on trails. That's certainly not something I would be doing
but rather up to 96 miles of smooth pavement during the week.. and
the primal diet.
On Nov 20, 1:46 pm, CycloFiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote:
on 11/20/10 5:49 AM, robert zeidler at zeidler.rob...@gmail.comwrote:
Just as an added thought He is going too far in the stout
direction.
These things are way overbuilt and as a result, too heavy, or at
least
heaveir than they ought to be. I know they don't care about that,
but
at
the end of a long day, that is when you start to notice the weight.
I
used
think, well, I'll just get 5 lbs lighter and it's a wash, but it
doesn't
work that way for some reason. My .02, YMMV.
I'd have to dig back into my notes, but I think the resultant frame
differences between heavy tubing and light tubing might mean a
pound
on
a ~60 cm frame.
Now, you might be able to come up with a five pound difference in
the
full
build pretty readily, but it's not specifically a frameset issue.
It does seem that the most recent models and revisions have tended
towards
stouter framesets, but now that those changes have shaken through,
we're
presented with a range of models, which you could think of as
limber
to
stout...
Roadeo/San Marcos - Hilsen - Hillborne - Atlantis -
Hunquapillar -
Bombadil
My Quickbeam seems just a hair more limber than my Hilsen, and they
are
both
right in that range of feel that works for just about everything I
like
to
do.
- Jim
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