Having been once totally knocked off the road by a teen driver about 17 years ago, the answer is....absolutely!!!
On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 12:05 PM, Jeremy Till <[email protected]> wrote: > Is that the cyclists' version of the old pilots' adage, "any landing > you can walk away from..."? > > On Nov 21, 6:58 am, robert zeidler <[email protected]> wrote: > > ...and that any ride you come back from alive is a good ride! > > > > On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 11:51 PM, cyclotourist <[email protected] > >wrote: > > > > > I did a quite scientific study of this earlier this summer. The > results: Not > > > much difference.< > http://cyclotourist.blogspot.com/2010/05/bike-servations.html> > > > The good news is that both bikes are a lot of fun to ride! > > > > > Almost got out for a ride today, but clear spells always seemed to line > up > > > with day-care duties. > > > > > On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 8:01 PM, charlie <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > >> Yea really............the one pound frame weight diff can't make one > > >> bike a "thudder" (whatever that means) its got to be the combination > > >> of elements that influence ride qualities. As far as performance goes > > >> you'd have to measure it over a long period and have direct > > >> comparisons which is really hard to do. Headwinds, my energy, > > >> hydration etc. there are so many variables that it just seems too > > >> difficult to make comparisons. I have several bikes that range in > > >> weight and components and even type and there seems to be no rhyme or > > >> reason as to why one days "fast ride" happens on the heavy bike and > > >> the next ride on the race bike is actually slower. Actually I don't > > >> even care........ I just want a derailleurless frame that will take > > >> some use buy a middle aged, overweight guy who wants to ride to work > > >> in the spring and summer and not have it prematurely crack somewhere. > > >> A little thicker tubing makes me feel better about my purchase in the > > >> long run.......perhaps its a non issue in the real world as it appears > > >> some of you are riding your QB's loaded with groceries or hopping ruts > > >> and rocks on trails. That's certainly not something I would be doing > > >> but rather up to 96 miles of smooth pavement during the week...... and > > >> the primal diet. > > > > >> On Nov 20, 1:46 pm, CycloFiend <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > on 11/20/10 5:49 AM, robert zeidler at [email protected]: > > > > >> > Just as an added thought.... He is going too far in the "stout" > > >> direction. > > >> > These things are way overbuilt and as a result, too heavy, or at > least > > >> > heaveir than they ought to be. I know they don't care about that, > but > > >> at > > >> > the end of a long day, that is when you start to notice the weight. > I > > >> used > > >> > think, well, I'll just get 5 lbs lighter and it's a wash, but it > doesn't > > >> > work that way for some reason. My .02, YMMV. > > > > >> > I'd have to dig back into my notes, but I think the resultant frame > > >> > differences between "heavy" tubing and "light" tubing might mean a > pound > > >> on > > >> > a ~60 cm frame. > > > > >> > Now, you might be able to come up with a five pound difference in > the > > >> full > > >> > build pretty readily, but it's not specifically a frameset issue. > > > > >> > It does seem that the most recent models and revisions have tended > > >> towards > > >> > stouter framesets, but now that those changes have shaken through, > we're > > >> > presented with a range of models, which you could think of as > "limber" > > >> to > > >> > "stout"... > > > > >> > Roadeo/San Marcos - > Hilsen - > Hillborne -> Atlantis -> > Hunquapillar - > > > > >> > Bombadil > > > > >> > My Quickbeam seems just a hair more limber than my Hilsen, and they > are > > >> both > > >> > right in that range of feel that works for just about everything I > like > > >> to > > >> > do. > > > > >> > - Jim > > > > >> > -- > > >> > Jim Edgar > > >> > [email protected] > > > > >> > Three T-shirts Now Available: > > >> > "I've Got Downtube Shifters..." 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