Re: [RBW] Re: What is a mountain bike?
Dear Anne et al, Take a look at this thorough review of the ECR; it's excellent and makes many valuable comparisons to the Krampus which should help you (or anyone) decide b/w the two. http://gypsybytrade.wordpress.com/2013/12/07/dissecting-the-surly-ecr/ Best wishes, Christian On Monday, December 9, 2013 8:30:11 PM UTC-5, Anne Paulson wrote: I'm pulling the trigger on either a Krampus or an ECR, just as soon as I decide which one and whether I'm going for a belt drive or a chain. And I'm going to have a great time riding the new bike, whichever one it is. How would I choose the size? I test rode an XL Krampus, which was clearly too big, but still (barely) ridable for me. Should I go for L or M? 5'8, long torso. On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 5:17 PM, Eric Daume eric...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: I demo'd a Krampus this weekend, and I didn't find any issues with the slacker head angle--and this is coming from a guy that really enjoyed a mountain bike with a 74* head angle. http://bikingtoplay.blogspot.com/2013/12/global-fat-bike-day-and-krampus.html My bike fund is in some danger... Eric Daume Dublin, OH On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 3:09 PM, Montclair BobbyB montcla...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: I love what Surly is doing with the 29er+ bikes (Krampus / ECR), except I'm not a big fan of the slightly slack headtube angle (69.5 degree)... maybe Surly is concerned about toe overlap (with those gargantuan tires)... still I'd rather see a longer top tube than slack head angle... For downhill, great... but for climbing, nimble maneuvering and certainly for touring I'd rather have something closer to 71/72. But maybe that's just me... On Sunday, December 8, 2013 6:40:54 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: Not directly related to the Hunquapillar, but interesting in a Rivendellianisticishianesquetic way or, at very least, quasi-crypto-Rivendellian. Ish. And it's local, land of red 'n' green. http://gypsybytrade.wordpress.com/ Patrick Moore, contemplating a lugged, more-rake fork from Chauncey for his Fargo in frigid ABQ, NM. -- RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED! Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@resumespecialties.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: What is a mountain bike?
Eric: Coming from a fellow Niner rider (I ride an MCR), I'd better believe it. Great write-up (especially like the snow photos). I actually ran into a few RD dudes from Surly at the Fruita Fat Tire festival in April. We had just finished a thrill ride on Zippity-Doo-Dah and ran into these guys in the lot (where I immediately noticed this awesome bike layin on its side)... I said to the guy That looks like Pugsley's big brother... He replied It's a Krampus... 29er... here, take it for a spin... So I did. WOW, surprisingly fast and nimble, although it was all on flat, fast and flowy dirt/sand single track... I didn't get a chance to climb with it... but wow, what a cool (and FUN) bike. They both had em (prototypes), set up for SS... Perhaps one day... although I gotta say, riding a nice steel, nimble 29er on tight technical forested trails is so blissful, I wonder how it could ever get better... But sorry, this is getting off-topic... Still, I hope where this is all heading is with further growth of the 'adventure bike' category... something that all Rivs seem to comfortably fit in already... Peace, BB On Monday, December 9, 2013 8:17:27 PM UTC-5, Eric Daume wrote: I demo'd a Krampus this weekend, and I didn't find any issues with the slacker head angle--and this is coming from a guy that really enjoyed a mountain bike with a 74* head angle. http://bikingtoplay.blogspot.com/2013/12/global-fat-bike-day-and-krampus.html My bike fund is in some danger... Eric Daume Dublin, OH On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 3:09 PM, Montclair BobbyB montcla...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: I love what Surly is doing with the 29er+ bikes (Krampus / ECR), except I'm not a big fan of the slightly slack headtube angle (69.5 degree)... maybe Surly is concerned about toe overlap (with those gargantuan tires)... still I'd rather see a longer top tube than slack head angle... For downhill, great... but for climbing, nimble maneuvering and certainly for touring I'd rather have something closer to 71/72. But maybe that's just me... On Sunday, December 8, 2013 6:40:54 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: Not directly related to the Hunquapillar, but interesting in a Rivendellianisticishianesquetic way or, at very least, quasi-crypto-Rivendellian. Ish. And it's local, land of red 'n' green. http://gypsybytrade.wordpress.com/ Patrick Moore, contemplating a lugged, more-rake fork from Chauncey for his Fargo in frigid ABQ, NM. -- *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@resumespecialties.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: What is a mountain bike?
Anne If you decide to go belted, you'll take your new frame to the local framebuilder for a seatstay splitter installation? Do you have a tradesperson in mind? http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8149/7382444166_b76df60251_b.jpg On Monday, December 9, 2013 5:30:11 PM UTC-8, Anne Paulson wrote: I'm pulling the trigger on either a Krampus or an ECR, just as soon as I decide which one and whether I'm going for a belt drive or a chain. And I'm going to have a great time riding the new bike, whichever one it is. How would I choose the size? I test rode an XL Krampus, which was clearly too big, but still (barely) ridable for me. Should I go for L or M? 5'8, long torso. On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 5:17 PM, Eric Daume eric...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: I demo'd a Krampus this weekend, and I didn't find any issues with the slacker head angle--and this is coming from a guy that really enjoyed a mountain bike with a 74* head angle. http://bikingtoplay.blogspot.com/2013/12/global-fat-bike-day-and-krampus.html My bike fund is in some danger... Eric Daume Dublin, OH On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 3:09 PM, Montclair BobbyB montcla...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: I love what Surly is doing with the 29er+ bikes (Krampus / ECR), except I'm not a big fan of the slightly slack headtube angle (69.5 degree)... maybe Surly is concerned about toe overlap (with those gargantuan tires)... still I'd rather see a longer top tube than slack head angle... For downhill, great... but for climbing, nimble maneuvering and certainly for touring I'd rather have something closer to 71/72. But maybe that's just me... On Sunday, December 8, 2013 6:40:54 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: Not directly related to the Hunquapillar, but interesting in a Rivendellianisticishianesquetic way or, at very least, quasi-crypto-Rivendellian. Ish. And it's local, land of red 'n' green. http://gypsybytrade.wordpress.com/ Patrick Moore, contemplating a lugged, more-rake fork from Chauncey for his Fargo in frigid ABQ, NM. -- RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED! Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@resumespecialties.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: What is a mountain bike?
No, I'm getting the bike from Cycle Monkey, 'cause they're experienced with Rohloffs and belts, and they have people they work with. On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 3:27 PM, Bill Lindsay tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Anne If you decide to go belted, you'll take your new frame to the local framebuilder for a seatstay splitter installation? Do you have a tradesperson in mind? http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8149/7382444166_b76df60251_b.jpg On Monday, December 9, 2013 5:30:11 PM UTC-8, Anne Paulson wrote: I'm pulling the trigger on either a Krampus or an ECR, just as soon as I decide which one and whether I'm going for a belt drive or a chain. And I'm going to have a great time riding the new bike, whichever one it is. How would I choose the size? I test rode an XL Krampus, which was clearly too big, but still (barely) ridable for me. Should I go for L or M? 5'8, long torso. On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 5:17 PM, Eric Daume eric...@gmail.com wrote: I demo'd a Krampus this weekend, and I didn't find any issues with the slacker head angle--and this is coming from a guy that really enjoyed a mountain bike with a 74* head angle. http://bikingtoplay.blogspot.com/2013/12/global-fat-bike- day-and-krampus.html My bike fund is in some danger... Eric Daume Dublin, OH On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 3:09 PM, Montclair BobbyB montcla...@gmail.com wrote: I love what Surly is doing with the 29er+ bikes (Krampus / ECR), except I'm not a big fan of the slightly slack headtube angle (69.5 degree)... maybe Surly is concerned about toe overlap (with those gargantuan tires)... still I'd rather see a longer top tube than slack head angle... For downhill, great... but for climbing, nimble maneuvering and certainly for touring I'd rather have something closer to 71/72. But maybe that's just me... On Sunday, December 8, 2013 6:40:54 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: Not directly related to the Hunquapillar, but interesting in a Rivendellianisticishianesquetic way or, at very least, quasi-crypto-Rivendellian. Ish. And it's local, land of red 'n' green. http://gypsybytrade.wordpress.com/ Patrick Moore, contemplating a lugged, more-rake fork from Chauncey for his Fargo in frigid ABQ, NM. -- RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED! Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@resumespecialties.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: What is a mountain bike?
I'll love to see pictures when you do it. On Tuesday, December 10, 2013 4:09:01 PM UTC-8, Anne Paulson wrote: No, I'm getting the bike from Cycle Monkey, 'cause they're experienced with Rohloffs and belts, and they have people they work with. On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 3:27 PM, Bill Lindsay tape...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: Anne If you decide to go belted, you'll take your new frame to the local framebuilder for a seatstay splitter installation? Do you have a tradesperson in mind? http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8149/7382444166_b76df60251_b.jpg On Monday, December 9, 2013 5:30:11 PM UTC-8, Anne Paulson wrote: I'm pulling the trigger on either a Krampus or an ECR, just as soon as I decide which one and whether I'm going for a belt drive or a chain. And I'm going to have a great time riding the new bike, whichever one it is. How would I choose the size? I test rode an XL Krampus, which was clearly too big, but still (barely) ridable for me. Should I go for L or M? 5'8, long torso. On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 5:17 PM, Eric Daume eric...@gmail.com wrote: I demo'd a Krampus this weekend, and I didn't find any issues with the slacker head angle--and this is coming from a guy that really enjoyed a mountain bike with a 74* head angle. http://bikingtoplay.blogspot.com/2013/12/global-fat-bike- day-and-krampus.html My bike fund is in some danger... Eric Daume Dublin, OH On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 3:09 PM, Montclair BobbyB montcla...@gmail.com wrote: I love what Surly is doing with the 29er+ bikes (Krampus / ECR), except I'm not a big fan of the slightly slack headtube angle (69.5 degree)... maybe Surly is concerned about toe overlap (with those gargantuan tires)... still I'd rather see a longer top tube than slack head angle... For downhill, great... but for climbing, nimble maneuvering and certainly for touring I'd rather have something closer to 71/72. But maybe that's just me... On Sunday, December 8, 2013 6:40:54 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: Not directly related to the Hunquapillar, but interesting in a Rivendellianisticishianesquetic way or, at very least, quasi-crypto-Rivendellian. Ish. And it's local, land of red 'n' green. http://gypsybytrade.wordpress.com/ Patrick Moore, contemplating a lugged, more-rake fork from Chauncey for his Fargo in frigid ABQ, NM. -- RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED! Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@resumespecialties.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: What is a mountain bike?
I demo'd a Krampus this weekend, and I didn't find any issues with the slacker head angle--and this is coming from a guy that really enjoyed a mountain bike with a 74* head angle. http://bikingtoplay.blogspot.com/2013/12/global-fat-bike-day-and-krampus.html My bike fund is in some danger... Eric Daume Dublin, OH On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 3:09 PM, Montclair BobbyB montclairbob...@gmail.comwrote: I love what Surly is doing with the 29er+ bikes (Krampus / ECR), except I'm not a big fan of the slightly slack headtube angle (69.5 degree)... maybe Surly is concerned about toe overlap (with those gargantuan tires)... still I'd rather see a longer top tube than slack head angle... For downhill, great... but for climbing, nimble maneuvering and certainly for touring I'd rather have something closer to 71/72. But maybe that's just me... On Sunday, December 8, 2013 6:40:54 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: Not directly related to the Hunquapillar, but interesting in a Rivendellianisticishianesquetic way or, at very least, quasi-crypto-Rivendellian. Ish. And it's local, land of red 'n' green. http://gypsybytrade.wordpress.com/ Patrick Moore, contemplating a lugged, more-rake fork from Chauncey for his Fargo in frigid ABQ, NM. -- *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@resumespecialties.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: What is a mountain bike?
I'm pulling the trigger on either a Krampus or an ECR, just as soon as I decide which one and whether I'm going for a belt drive or a chain. And I'm going to have a great time riding the new bike, whichever one it is. How would I choose the size? I test rode an XL Krampus, which was clearly too big, but still (barely) ridable for me. Should I go for L or M? 5'8, long torso. On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 5:17 PM, Eric Daume ericda...@gmail.com wrote: I demo'd a Krampus this weekend, and I didn't find any issues with the slacker head angle--and this is coming from a guy that really enjoyed a mountain bike with a 74* head angle. http://bikingtoplay.blogspot.com/2013/12/global-fat-bike-day-and-krampus.html My bike fund is in some danger... Eric Daume Dublin, OH On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 3:09 PM, Montclair BobbyB montclairbob...@gmail.com wrote: I love what Surly is doing with the 29er+ bikes (Krampus / ECR), except I'm not a big fan of the slightly slack headtube angle (69.5 degree)... maybe Surly is concerned about toe overlap (with those gargantuan tires)... still I'd rather see a longer top tube than slack head angle... For downhill, great... but for climbing, nimble maneuvering and certainly for touring I'd rather have something closer to 71/72. But maybe that's just me... On Sunday, December 8, 2013 6:40:54 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: Not directly related to the Hunquapillar, but interesting in a Rivendellianisticishianesquetic way or, at very least, quasi-crypto-Rivendellian. Ish. And it's local, land of red 'n' green. http://gypsybytrade.wordpress.com/ Patrick Moore, contemplating a lugged, more-rake fork from Chauncey for his Fargo in frigid ABQ, NM. -- RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED! Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@resumespecialties.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: What is a mountain bike?
Compare the geometry charts from Surly's site with your Riv geometry chart. That's what I've done to figure out what size I need to test ride, so I don't have a positive outcome yet. Based on that, I am an XL for either Surly, with a PBH of 90 and a 62 Hunqapillar. With abandon, Patrick On Monday, December 9, 2013 6:30:11 PM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote: I'm pulling the trigger on either a Krampus or an ECR, just as soon as I decide which one and whether I'm going for a belt drive or a chain. And I'm going to have a great time riding the new bike, whichever one it is. How would I choose the size? I test rode an XL Krampus, which was clearly too big, but still (barely) ridable for me. Should I go for L or M? 5'8, long torso. On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 5:17 PM, Eric Daume eric...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: I demo'd a Krampus this weekend, and I didn't find any issues with the slacker head angle--and this is coming from a guy that really enjoyed a mountain bike with a 74* head angle. http://bikingtoplay.blogspot.com/2013/12/global-fat-bike-day-and-krampus.html My bike fund is in some danger... Eric Daume Dublin, OH On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 3:09 PM, Montclair BobbyB montcla...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: I love what Surly is doing with the 29er+ bikes (Krampus / ECR), except I'm not a big fan of the slightly slack headtube angle (69.5 degree)... maybe Surly is concerned about toe overlap (with those gargantuan tires)... still I'd rather see a longer top tube than slack head angle... For downhill, great... but for climbing, nimble maneuvering and certainly for touring I'd rather have something closer to 71/72. But maybe that's just me... On Sunday, December 8, 2013 6:40:54 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: Not directly related to the Hunquapillar, but interesting in a Rivendellianisticishianesquetic way or, at very least, quasi-crypto-Rivendellian. Ish. And it's local, land of red 'n' green. http://gypsybytrade.wordpress.com/ Patrick Moore, contemplating a lugged, more-rake fork from Chauncey for his Fargo in frigid ABQ, NM. -- RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED! Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@resumespecialties.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: What is a mountain bike?
Anne, I'm 6'3 and could manage the Large Krampus, but the XL would be better. The top tube on these run pretty long, so I would guess Medium. Eric On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 8:30 PM, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.com wrote: I'm pulling the trigger on either a Krampus or an ECR, just as soon as I decide which one and whether I'm going for a belt drive or a chain. And I'm going to have a great time riding the new bike, whichever one it is. How would I choose the size? I test rode an XL Krampus, which was clearly too big, but still (barely) ridable for me. Should I go for L or M? 5'8, long torso. On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 5:17 PM, Eric Daume ericda...@gmail.com wrote: I demo'd a Krampus this weekend, and I didn't find any issues with the slacker head angle--and this is coming from a guy that really enjoyed a mountain bike with a 74* head angle. http://bikingtoplay.blogspot.com/2013/12/global-fat-bike-day-and-krampus.html My bike fund is in some danger... Eric Daume Dublin, OH On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 3:09 PM, Montclair BobbyB montclairbob...@gmail.com wrote: I love what Surly is doing with the 29er+ bikes (Krampus / ECR), except I'm not a big fan of the slightly slack headtube angle (69.5 degree)... maybe Surly is concerned about toe overlap (with those gargantuan tires)... still I'd rather see a longer top tube than slack head angle... For downhill, great... but for climbing, nimble maneuvering and certainly for touring I'd rather have something closer to 71/72. But maybe that's just me... On Sunday, December 8, 2013 6:40:54 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: Not directly related to the Hunquapillar, but interesting in a Rivendellianisticishianesquetic way or, at very least, quasi-crypto-Rivendellian. Ish. And it's local, land of red 'n' green. http://gypsybytrade.wordpress.com/ Patrick Moore, contemplating a lugged, more-rake fork from Chauncey for his Fargo in frigid ABQ, NM. -- RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED! Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@resumespecialties.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.