RE: [RBW] Re: lightest rear rack
>how much weight will it hold? 70kg. I sat on it ;-)) . It's not long enough to hang a set of panniers, but I'd be happy to carry whatever I can fit into a rack bag or saddle bag all day. Version 2.0 will have some holes drilled along the sides to use as lashing points. The aluminum polishes up nicely, but it does rub off on the bags, so you might want to wrap it in tape. Cheers Steve > Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 08:41:12 -0800 > Subject: [RBW] Re: lightest rear rack > From: charles_v...@hotmail.com > To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > > That sounds pretty groovy to mewow, I hadn't thought about it that > way but what a simple solution. As a bag support or for something to > carry lightweight things like extra clothing it sounds perfect. do you > have any idea how much weight will it hold? > I had planned to do something similar with steel tubing as a bag > support with the option of a bolt on section that could be added for a > small pannier (Berthoud) later on. > > On Nov 22, 8:21 pm, Steve Vesel wrote: > > Sounds like a good project Charlie. > > > > I wanted to do something similar for my protovelo, which has two sets of > > braze-ons on the seatstays. > > > > I didn't have access to a brazing torch, so in the end I ordered a set of > > the nitto aluminium rack struts from Riv, and bought a metre of 10mm x 5mm > > aluminum from my local hardware store. I bent the 5 x 10 into a U shape > > which forms the "platform" of the "rack". Two holes drilled for the struts, > > and two at the ends of the U for the upper seatstay mounts, and a fifth at > > the base of the U to hold the rear mudguard with a 90 degree bracket. The > > mudguard keeps the bag from contacting the tyre. Total cost about $25 and > > 45 minutes with a file and drill. Weight is somewhere around 200 grams. > > > > Don't have any pictures of this, but hope the above description makes sense. > > > > Cheers > > > > Stevy > > > > > > > > > Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 09:54:57 -0800 > > > Subject: [RBW] Re: lightest rear rack > > > From: charles_v...@hotmail.com > > > To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > > > > > I plan on building my own lightweight commuter racks for use with > > > special home made thin panniers and as a bag support...the front > > > one will be for mounting lights and a small bag for tools, wallet. > > > etc. I want to use stainless tubing but may just use light gauge > > > chrome moly and powdercoat to match my frame. All you need is a tubing > > > bender, torch and some hand tools.I have that so...we'll > > > see how soon I get them done. ;) > > > > > On Nov 20, 5:15 pm, jim_OLP wrote: > > > > Most people seem to be looking for the strongest rear rack they can > > > > find. They're carrying engine blocks down pothole-lined streets, or > > > > crossing Mongolia solo. I want the opposite - the lightest, least > > > > obtrusive rack there is. The rack for minimalists. I want to use a > > > > "trunk' bag but I hate the look of standard rear racks that bolt on to > > > > the dropouts, and I'm never carrying anything at all heavy. Ideally I > > > > want something about 1/3 that weight and complexity. What is out > > > > there? > > > > > -- > > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > > For more options, visit this group > > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=. > > > > _ > > Looking for a date? View photos of singles in your > > area!http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/150855801/direct/01/ > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=. > > _ Looking for a date? View photos of singles in your area! http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/150855801/direct/01/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=.
Re: [RBW] Re: lightest rear rack
Why do you need the rack? Consider the following, that doesn't need a rack: Medium Sackville Saddle-sack: http://www.rivbike.com/products/list/bags_and_racks?a=1&page=all#product=20-132 Saddlebag Grip (Nitto): http://www.rivbike.com/products/list/bags_and_racks?a=1&page=all#product=20-109 This way, you can easily remove the saddlebag, that will easily fit all your clothes and sutff, when you lock your bike in those high crime areas you mention... The medium Saddlesack doesn't require a rack. René -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=.
Re: [RBW] Re: lightest rear rack
And +1 for the Bagman. I recently installed one on my mountain bike, to keep the Nelson off the tire. Much better than the VO seatpost clamp support. On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 6:24 AM, Mark wrote: > > > +1 on the saddlebag. A Carradice Barley needs no rear rack on all but > the smallest of bikes and you can use > a Bagman for a larger bag like a Nelson Longflap or Camper. > > Here is a link to my setup. I'm carrying everything for an extended > tour and the only rack on the bike is an Expedition Bagman. > > > http://wheelsofchance.org/2009/08/23/carradice-expedition-bagman-review/ > > > This takes my vote!!!Nice looking Clive! > > Surf > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=. > > > -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com (505) 227-0523 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=.
RE: [RBW] Re: lightest rear rack
Sounds like a good project Charlie. I wanted to do something similar for my protovelo, which has two sets of braze-ons on the seatstays. I didn't have access to a brazing torch, so in the end I ordered a set of the nitto aluminium rack struts from Riv, and bought a metre of 10mm x 5mm aluminum from my local hardware store. I bent the 5 x 10 into a U shape which forms the "platform" of the "rack". Two holes drilled for the struts, and two at the ends of the U for the upper seatstay mounts, and a fifth at the base of the U to hold the rear mudguard with a 90 degree bracket. The mudguard keeps the bag from contacting the tyre. Total cost about $25 and 45 minutes with a file and drill. Weight is somewhere around 200 grams. Don't have any pictures of this, but hope the above description makes sense. Cheers Stevy > Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 09:54:57 -0800 > Subject: [RBW] Re: lightest rear rack > From: charles_v...@hotmail.com > To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > > I plan on building my own lightweight commuter racks for use with > special home made thin panniers and as a bag support...the front > one will be for mounting lights and a small bag for tools, wallet. > etc. I want to use stainless tubing but may just use light gauge > chrome moly and powdercoat to match my frame. All you need is a tubing > bender, torch and some hand tools.I have that so...we'll > see how soon I get them done. ;) > > On Nov 20, 5:15 pm, jim_OLP wrote: > > Most people seem to be looking for the strongest rear rack they can > > find. They're carrying engine blocks down pothole-lined streets, or > > crossing Mongolia solo. I want the opposite - the lightest, least > > obtrusive rack there is. The rack for minimalists. I want to use a > > "trunk' bag but I hate the look of standard rear racks that bolt on to > > the dropouts, and I'm never carrying anything at all heavy. Ideally I > > want something about 1/3 that weight and complexity. What is out > > there? > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=. > > _ Looking for a date? View photos of singles in your area! http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/150855801/direct/01/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=.
Re: [RBW] Re: lightest rear rack
On Sat, 2009-11-21 at 08:30 -0700, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > On 11/20/09, jim_OLP wrote: > > I do have a saddlebag, but it's too small in the winter and it's > > canvas, I don't want to soak it. > > ??? They are (at least the Carradices are) built to take it. I've > carried water in my Nelson with nary a leak -- really. And a Camper is > pretty big. I accidentally ended up with a Carradice full of water, too. I'd bought a large bottle of seltzer on a ride, drank a small bit, put the bottle in the bag and didn't check that the top was really screwed down tight. It wasn't, and the gas pressure opened it. When I looked in the bag a couple of hours later, I was shocked to see my wallet under several inches of water. The bag was completely dry on the outside. It took hours to dry out the wallet... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=.
Re: [RBW] Re: lightest rear rack
About 24x13cm platform. Rack alone weighs 320g, 440g with the bag-o-hardware that came with it. Ryan On Nov 21, 2009, at 11:53 AM, jim_OLP wrote: > That's sort of what I was looking for, although it looks short front- > to-back. Apparently Vetta no longer makes them? > >> >> How about this Vetta Rack? >> Aluminum and pretty >> light.http://www.flickr.com/photos/7556...@n06/4121848193/ >> Top struts mount to the usual rear rack mounting spots. The lower >> mounts will need braze ons or P clamps. >> For sale if anyone's interested. >> >> Ryan > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners- > bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl= > . > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=.
Re: [RBW] Re: lightest rear rack
> > On Nov 20, 5:15 pm, jim_OLP wrote: >> Most people seem to be looking for the strongest rear rack they can >> find. They're carrying engine blocks down pothole-lined streets, or >> crossing Mongolia solo. I want the opposite - the lightest, least >> obtrusive rack there is. The rack for minimalists. I want to use a >> "trunk' bag but I hate the look of standard rear racks that bolt on >> to >> the dropouts, and I'm never carrying anything at all heavy. >> Ideally I >> want something about 1/3 that weight and complexity. What is out >> there? How about this Vetta Rack? Aluminum and pretty light. http://www.flickr.com/photos/7556...@n06/4121848193/ Top struts mount to the usual rear rack mounting spots. The lower mounts will need braze ons or P clamps. For sale if anyone's interested. Ryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=.
Re: [RBW] Re: lightest rear rack
On 11/20/09, jim_OLP wrote: > I do have a saddlebag, but it's too small in the winter and it's > canvas, I don't want to soak it. ??? They are (at least the Carradices are) built to take it. I've carried water in my Nelson with nary a leak -- really. And a Camper is pretty big. I already have a nylon 'trunk' bag > which is perfectly sized, but I don't need the support of the big > rack. > > Nitro R14: too nice, too expensive, a target for thieves. I sometimes > park in dodgy spots. > > The "hupe": a saddlbag support, won't work with a rectangular trunk > bag. > > Tubus "fly": also very expensive. $100; not too bad. Cheaper than a Camper. > > Mark's rack - close to what I want, but too expensive, too short > horizontally > > Basically the need is for winter, to stow bulky but lightweigh items > like a sweater. I know, I'm being difficult here. I had some dim > memory of Riv making a sort of partially supported rear rack. > Actually I'm thinking about making something myself. > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=. > > > -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com (505) 227-0523 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=.
Re: [RBW] Re: lightest rear rack
You can get a mini rack that hangs off the saddle or the seatpost to support a medium or small saddle bag. Jim D. Massachusetts --- On Fri, 11/20/09, JoelMatthews wrote: From: JoelMatthews Subject: [RBW] Re: lightest rear rack To: "RBW Owners Bunch" Date: Friday, November 20, 2009, 9:03 PM Just get a small saddle bag then. The least obtrusive is nothing, right? On Nov 20, 7:15 pm, jim_OLP wrote: > Most people seem to be looking for the strongest rear rack they can > find. They're carrying engine blocks down pothole-lined streets, or > crossing Mongolia solo. I want the opposite - the lightest, least > obtrusive rack there is. The rack for minimalists. I want to use a > "trunk' bag but I hate the look of standard rear racks that bolt on to > the dropouts, and I'm never carrying anything at all heavy. Ideally I > want something about 1/3 that weight and complexity. What is out > there? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=.
Re: [RBW] Re: lightest rear rack
On Fri, 2009-11-20 at 20:23 -0700, rswat...@me.com wrote: > > > > On Nov 20, 2009, at 19:58, jim_OLP wrote: > > > The old MAFAC rack does look interesting if it could somehow merge > > with cantilever brakes. > > It can! I've seen it done. > Someone took just the center mount piece off a MAFAC Racer brake, > bolted the little rack to the two bare studs, then bolted the whole > contraption to the seatstay bridge of a cantilever equipped bike. > I wish I could find a photo of it. Actually, I doubt a photo is required. Once you describe it, it's obvious, and there's only one way it would go together. But -- and this is a big but -- would a rack truck fit on one? I think it would be too small. It might work for keeping a seat bag off a tire on a small sized frame, though. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=.
Re: [RBW] Re: lightest rear rack
I'd also recommend a large saddlebag, but if you're looking specifically for a lightweight rack and don't want to spend $100, get the Pletscher. Aluminum, light, carries enough. Why not? On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 8:52 PM, jim_OLP wrote: > I do have a saddlebag, but it's too small in the winter and it's > canvas, I don't want to soak it. I already have a nylon 'trunk' bag > which is perfectly sized, but I don't need the support of the big > rack. > > Nitro R14: too nice, too expensive, a target for thieves. I sometimes > park in dodgy spots. > > The "hupe": a saddlbag support, won't work with a rectangular trunk > bag. > > Tubus "fly": also very expensive. > > Mark's rack - close to what I want, but too expensive, too short > horizontally > > Basically the need is for winter, to stow bulky but lightweigh items > like a sweater. I know, I'm being difficult here. I had some dim > memory of Riv making a sort of partially supported rear rack. > Actually I'm thinking about making something myself. > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=. > > > -- Bill Connell St. Paul, MN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=.
Re: [RBW] Re: lightest rear rack
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 6:52 PM, jim_OLP wrote: > > Tubus "fly": also very expensive. > > Well I was going to point out the Tubus Airy, but I guess you wouldn't like that either. Looks like a great rack, though!! I have the Luna, and I think it's great. A little narrow for a trunk bag, but I use panniers. Horace. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=.
Re: [RBW] Re: lightest rear rack
On Nov 20, 2009, at 19:58, jim_OLP wrote: > The old MAFAC rack does look interesting if it could somehow merge > with cantilever brakes. It can! I've seen it done. Someone took just the center mount piece off a MAFAC Racer brake, bolted the little rack to the two bare studs, then bolted the whole contraption to the seatstay bridge of a cantilever equipped bike. I wish I could find a photo of it. Ryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=.
