Re: [RBW] What epoch of Rivster are you?

[hugh flynn]

I'm a Proto-2TT-Nuevo.

The two most-ridden bikes in my collection are my '99 Heron Road and my '18
double TT Appaloosa.

Hugh "spanning the ages" Flynn
Newburyport, MA




On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 7:55 PM Philip Williamson <
philip.william...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Recent discussions make me wonder, what epoch of Rivendell bikes or
> aesthetic most appeals to list members?
>
> Which era do you identify with the most, or like the best?
> Is it the era you first encountered Riv in, or did you look back through
> the back catalog and say, "That's the one for me?" Or did you arrive early,
> travel into the future with Rivendell and love best what's happening now?
>
>- Are you a "*Proto-Riv*" aficionado of Longlows, Allrounders, and
>Herons?
>- A "*Golden Ager*?" Are Herons, Rambouillets, and Salukis your
>favorites?
>- Or are you a "*2TTer,*" a Bombadil, Hunq, and Sam Hillborner?
>- A "*Clemster*" and a Rosco?
>- Have you become a "*New Atlantean*?" A Swoop-a-tuber, Hill-biker,
>and a Gus Bootster?
>
> Are these fixed preferences, or have you been most into a different era
> before? Do you have shadings of more than one?  I first encountered Riv in
> the Proto era, looking at the All Rounder. Overall I'm a Golden Ager, but
> the New Atlantean age is looking pretty attractive.
>
> Philip
> Santa Rosa, CA
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Re: [RBW] What epoch of Rivster are you?

[Bill Gibson]

I saw Grant's Brookstones at a local Outdoor shop when they were new, and
noticed how smart they were, but I couldn't afford them. I was assembling
my bikes from used parts!
I first saw Rivendell bikes on the Internet, read Grant's blog about the
trials of starting up Rivendell. I remember wandering the Sierra when
people were packing Rivendell packs, which Grant is said to have named his
company after. I carried a Kelty frame pack.
The first Rivendell bike I saw in person was at a Seattle Bike Show in
1997. One beautiful bike, but nothing else, just a lonely guy sitting there
next to it (not Grant). I was too shy to sit down and say hello.
I got a used green Quickbeam and then got into Baggins bags and bike
camping and How to Ride Happy. That's my era; I am not paleo, still
vegequarium (some seafood now and then, otherwise good plants).
Currently, the Quickbeam is mostly stock parts but overdressed (With a 9
speed SRAM I-9 planetary gear rear hub, Stainless Steel Berthoud fenders,
racks, etc. It’s very comfortable, functional, and intrepid.
I want to try a front loading, wider tired, lighter, more flexy, Rando
Gravel bike someday, with fenders, along Bicycle Quarterly style lines, but
if I win the lottery, I could ride a newer Rivendell.
It really is the best time to be a cyclist, or a photographer!

My other bikes are a 1997 Cannondale F-1000 converted to city bike, and a
1970 Gitane 531DB road bike with old Simplex and Campangnolo bits. And a
1980s Gary Fisher Tandem! Splatter Paint!


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On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 5:30 PM William deRosset 
wrote:

> MB1, Atlantis (Toyo) and a Heron Touring. Only the last has stayed with
> me, and is on near-permanent loan to my trailer-pulling brother. That bike
> is the best trailer tractor of all time. It is also the subject of one of
> the best film-camera shots of my bikes ever. It is on the wall, not
> scanned, so I won't share it, but it is a reminder of the Heron's
> understated elegance and intrepid versatility.
>
> Proto-riv for me.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Will
> William M deRosset
> Fort Collins CO USA
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Re: [RBW] What epoch of Rivster are you?

[David Hallerman]

Yes Bruce, the slightly sloping top tube and 20mm extended head 
tube...that was my Riv Road Standard.


The dropouts were flexible, though. That is, I don't like horizontal 
dropouts all that much, and that's how the Road Standards were being built.


But they weren't so standard that you couldn't ask for tweaks. My tweak 
was semi-vertical dropouts.


Dave, who notes that for a series of reasons that frame had to return 
twice to Waterford for some fixes before it became a great bike



On 9/27/18 7:57 PM, bruce.herbit...@gmail.com wrote:
Probably a good next thread, but does anyone know what the first Riv 
ever sold was? Is it Chris Kosterman's?


Dave: If your bike has a sloping TT and extended HT, it is a Road 
Standard. My early one has a level TT and normal HT and is, as shown 
in RR #2 from early 1995,  just called a Road. Mine has Suntour 
dropouts as well. They went to an Italian (?) supplier later. Btw, the 
new cost for my frameset was $895 plus $20 shipping.


Tailwinds,

Bruce

On Thursday, September 27, 2018, 5:13:31 PM CDT, David Hallerman 
 wrote:



Hey, well considering that I bought one of the first Rivendell road 
bikes, a silver-brazed majesty built by Waterford with Richard Sachs 
lugs, considering at that point the model was called the "Road 
Standard," if my memory serves.


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Re: [RBW] What epoch of Rivster are you?

[Steven Sweedler]

Bruce, Chris Kostman had the first All Rounder. He had it up for sale a few
years ago. Steve

On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 7:57 PM bruce.herbit...@gmail.com <
bruce.herbit...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Probably a good next thread, but does anyone know what the first Riv ever
> sold was? Is it Chris Kosterman's?
>
> Dave: If your bike has a sloping TT and extended HT, it is a Road
> Standard. My early one has a level TT and normal HT and is, as shown in RR
> #2 from early 1995,  just called a Road. Mine has Suntour dropouts as well.
> They went to an Italian (?) supplier later. Btw, the new cost for my
> frameset was $895 plus $20 shipping.
>
> Tailwinds,
>
> Bruce
>
> On Thursday, September 27, 2018, 5:13:31 PM CDT, David Hallerman <
> sunwarr...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>
> Hey, well considering that I bought one of the first Rivendell road bikes,
> a silver-brazed majesty built by Waterford with Richard Sachs lugs,
> considering at that point the model was called the "Road Standard," if my
> memory serves.
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Re: [RBW] What epoch of Rivster are you?

[bruce.herbit...@gmail.com]

 Probably a good next thread, but does anyone know what the first Riv ever sold 
was? Is it Chris Kosterman's?  
Dave: If your bike has a sloping TT and extended HT, it is a Road Standard. My 
early one has a level TT and normal HT and is, as shown in RR #2 from early 
1995,  just called a Road. Mine has Suntour dropouts as well. They went to an 
Italian (?) supplier later. Btw, the new cost for my frameset was $895 plus $20 
shipping.  
Tailwinds,
Bruce
On Thursday, September 27, 2018, 5:13:31 PM CDT, David Hallerman 
 wrote:  
 
   
Hey, well considering that I bought one of the first Rivendell road bikes, a 
silver-brazed majesty built by Waterford with Richard Sachs lugs, considering 
at that point the model was called the "Road Standard," if my memory serves.
  

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Re: [RBW] What epoch of Rivster are you?

['Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Hunqabeam. Epic. Grin.

With abandon,
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Re: [RBW] What epoch of Rivster are you?

[David Hallerman]

Hey, well considering that I bought one of the first Rivendell road 
bikes, a silver-brazed majesty built by Waterford with Richard Sachs 
lugs, considering at that point the model was called the "Road 
Standard," if my memory serves.


Considering that the one Riv bike I have left, as categorized in this 
compelling thread, is a first generation Heron, also brazed from 
Reynolds steel tubing by the fellows at Waterford.


Considering all that, I would be deemed a "Proto-Riv" kind of guy. But 
that's only because we're all, at a certain stage with bicycles, just 
like baby ducklings -- and we get imprinted by certain bikes, certain 
designs, certain materials at that time.


H.

Dave
+++
Hudson Valley NY


On 9/26/18 7:55 PM, Philip Williamson wrote:
Recent discussions make me wonder, what epoch of Rivendell bikes or 
aesthetic most appeals to list members?


Which era do you identify with the most, or like the best?
Is it the era you first encountered Riv in, or did you look back 
through the back catalog and say, "That's the one for me?" Or did you 
arrive early, travel into the future with Rivendell and love best 
what's happening now?


  * Are you a "*Proto-Riv*" aficionado of Longlows, Allrounders, and
Herons?
  * A "*Golden Ager*?" Are Herons, Rambouillets, and Salukis your
favorites?
  * Or are you a "*2TTer,*" a Bombadil, Hunq, and Sam Hillborner?
  * A "*Clemster*" and a Rosco?
  * Have you become a "*New Atlantean*?" A Swoop-a-tuber, Hill-biker,
and a Gus Bootster?

Are these fixed preferences, or have you been most into a different 
era before? Do you have shadings of more than one?  I first 
encountered Riv in the Proto era, looking at the All Rounder. Overall 
I'm a Golden Ager, but the New Atlantean age is looking pretty 
attractive.


Philip
Santa Rosa, CA
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Re: [RBW] What epoch of Rivster are you?

[Philip Williamson]

That sounds like you're pretty clearly a "Golden Ager." The Roadeo is an 
atavism of Proto/Early Golden Age road-oriented bikes. 
Your 26" road Rivs are clearly sports of the breed, though. 

Philip
Santa Rosa, CA


On Thursday, September 27, 2018 at 8:37:23 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> I joined in 1994, but as far as products go, my favorites cross epochal 
> boundaries: Road, Ram, Roadeo, Legolas, Quickbeam, Atlantis, Bombadil, 
> Hunquapillar. That takes me across 3 periods; which does the Roadeo belong 
> to?
>
> I've owned 3 customs, a Sam, and a Ram.
>
> On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 5:55 PM, Philip Williamson  > wrote:
>
>> Recent discussions make me wonder, what epoch of Rivendell bikes or 
>> aesthetic most appeals to list members? 
>>
>> Which era do you identify with the most, or like the best? 
>> Is it the era you first encountered Riv in, or did you look back through 
>> the back catalog and say, "That's the one for me?" Or did you arrive early, 
>> travel into the future with Rivendell and love best what's happening now? 
>>
>>- Are you a "*Proto-Riv*" aficionado of Longlows, Allrounders, and 
>>Herons? 
>>- A "*Golden Ager*?" Are Herons, Rambouillets, and Salukis your 
>>favorites? 
>>- Or are you a "*2TTer,*" a Bombadil, Hunq, and Sam Hillborner?
>>- A "*Clemster*" and a Rosco? 
>>- Have you become a "*New Atlantean*?" A Swoop-a-tuber, Hill-biker, 
>>and a Gus Bootster? 
>>
>> Are these fixed preferences, or have you been most into a different era 
>> before? Do you have shadings of more than one?  I first encountered Riv in 
>> the Proto era, looking at the All Rounder. Overall I'm a Golden Ager, but 
>> the New Atlantean age is looking pretty attractive. 
>>
>> Philip 
>> Santa Rosa, CA 
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Re: [RBW] What epoch of Rivster are you?

[Justin, Oakland]

Clearly this epochs need to be added to the timeline Google Doc. 

-J

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Re: [RBW] What epoch of Rivster are you?

[Patrick Moore]

I joined in 1994, but as far as products go, my favorites cross epochal
boundaries: Road, Ram, Roadeo, Legolas, Quickbeam, Atlantis, Bombadil,
Hunquapillar. That takes me across 3 periods; which does the Roadeo belong
to?

I've owned 3 customs, a Sam, and a Ram.

On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 5:55 PM, Philip Williamson <
philip.william...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Recent discussions make me wonder, what epoch of Rivendell bikes or
> aesthetic most appeals to list members?
>
> Which era do you identify with the most, or like the best?
> Is it the era you first encountered Riv in, or did you look back through
> the back catalog and say, "That's the one for me?" Or did you arrive early,
> travel into the future with Rivendell and love best what's happening now?
>
>- Are you a "*Proto-Riv*" aficionado of Longlows, Allrounders, and
>Herons?
>- A "*Golden Ager*?" Are Herons, Rambouillets, and Salukis your
>favorites?
>- Or are you a "*2TTer,*" a Bombadil, Hunq, and Sam Hillborner?
>- A "*Clemster*" and a Rosco?
>- Have you become a "*New Atlantean*?" A Swoop-a-tuber, Hill-biker,
>and a Gus Bootster?
>
> Are these fixed preferences, or have you been most into a different era
> before? Do you have shadings of more than one?  I first encountered Riv in
> the Proto era, looking at the All Rounder. Overall I'm a Golden Ager, but
> the New Atlantean age is looking pretty attractive.
>
> Philip
> Santa Rosa, CA
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Re: [RBW] What epoch of Rivster are you?

[Steven Sweedler]

Another proto Riv here, I subscribed pre Riv, in the BOB days, and have yet
to find my large 26" wheeled AR. I have a custom road and an Atlantis, but
have been riding and enjoying 26" wheeled frames. The RTP and Thunderburt
rires are wonderful. Steve

On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 6:09 AM Eric Daume  wrote:

> That's a fun question.
>
> I started with Riv early, as soon as I found them around RR3, coming from
> my old college days Bridgestone catalogs.
>
> I had a Romulus, too small, didn't really care for it.
>
> For a long time, I wanted a 64cm Quickbeam, but one never came along at
> the right time. My Crosscheck and now my BMC Monstercross have sufficed as
> my single speed crossy bikes.
>
> The 2TTers kind of confused and frustrated me.
>
> I didn't like the stock Clem I bought, but now that I've built my own Clem
> up from a frame, I really like it. Such a versatile machine.
>
> I kind of like the new swoopy Atlantis as well. The original Rivs just
> look kind of dated to me now. What do you mean, only 32mm tires?!
>
> Eric
> Plain City, OH
>
> On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 7:55 PM Philip Williamson <
> philip.william...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Recent discussions make me wonder, what epoch of Rivendell bikes or
>> aesthetic most appeals to list members?
>>
>> Which era do you identify with the most, or like the best?
>> Is it the era you first encountered Riv in, or did you look back through
>> the back catalog and say, "That's the one for me?" Or did you arrive early,
>> travel into the future with Rivendell and love best what's happening now?
>>
>>- Are you a "*Proto-Riv*" aficionado of Longlows, Allrounders, and
>>Herons?
>>- A "*Golden Ager*?" Are Herons, Rambouillets, and Salukis your
>>favorites?
>>- Or are you a "*2TTer,*" a Bombadil, Hunq, and Sam Hillborner?
>>- A "*Clemster*" and a Rosco?
>>- Have you become a "*New Atlantean*?" A Swoop-a-tuber, Hill-biker,
>>and a Gus Bootster?
>>
>> Are these fixed preferences, or have you been most into a different era
>> before? Do you have shadings of more than one?  I first encountered Riv in
>> the Proto era, looking at the All Rounder. Overall I'm a Golden Ager, but
>> the New Atlantean age is looking pretty attractive.
>>
>> Philip
>> Santa Rosa, CA
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Re: [RBW] What epoch of Rivster are you?

[Eric Daume]

That's a fun question.

I started with Riv early, as soon as I found them around RR3, coming from
my old college days Bridgestone catalogs.

I had a Romulus, too small, didn't really care for it.

For a long time, I wanted a 64cm Quickbeam, but one never came along at the
right time. My Crosscheck and now my BMC Monstercross have sufficed as my
single speed crossy bikes.

The 2TTers kind of confused and frustrated me.

I didn't like the stock Clem I bought, but now that I've built my own Clem
up from a frame, I really like it. Such a versatile machine.

I kind of like the new swoopy Atlantis as well. The original Rivs just look
kind of dated to me now. What do you mean, only 32mm tires?!

Eric
Plain City, OH

On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 7:55 PM Philip Williamson <
philip.william...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Recent discussions make me wonder, what epoch of Rivendell bikes or
> aesthetic most appeals to list members?
>
> Which era do you identify with the most, or like the best?
> Is it the era you first encountered Riv in, or did you look back through
> the back catalog and say, "That's the one for me?" Or did you arrive early,
> travel into the future with Rivendell and love best what's happening now?
>
>- Are you a "*Proto-Riv*" aficionado of Longlows, Allrounders, and
>Herons?
>- A "*Golden Ager*?" Are Herons, Rambouillets, and Salukis your
>favorites?
>- Or are you a "*2TTer,*" a Bombadil, Hunq, and Sam Hillborner?
>- A "*Clemster*" and a Rosco?
>- Have you become a "*New Atlantean*?" A Swoop-a-tuber, Hill-biker,
>and a Gus Bootster?
>
> Are these fixed preferences, or have you been most into a different era
> before? Do you have shadings of more than one?  I first encountered Riv in
> the Proto era, looking at the All Rounder. Overall I'm a Golden Ager, but
> the New Atlantean age is looking pretty attractive.
>
> Philip
> Santa Rosa, CA
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