Re: [RBW] interview with Ritchey on steel, gravel, wide tires and innovation
Nice interview of Ritchey. I'll have to set aside time for the video. Ritchey pops up in RRs every now and again-- clearly an influence to GP and the industry. I'm interested to see how Ritchey's prediction of simplification plays out. I see more 1-by-X's around, and SS, and fixies. (Maybe b/c I'm in an urban environment? or flatter land area?) Appaloosa/Mystery bike's 1-by-X (or stick-by-X?). Then again, I checked out the SRAM XX1 Ritchey mentioned, having no idea about these modern groups, and... wow $425 for an 11-speed cassette! (XX1 chain's $58.) On Wednesday, March 6, 2013 12:22:05 AM UTC-5, Jim M. wrote: On Tuesday, March 5, 2013 10:40:44 AM UTC-8, Daniel wrote: I have huge respect for Tom Ritchey, am intrigued by the Woodsies, but I don't believe the first MTBs built by Rtichey were 650B. Have you seen the video by Jay Ritchey: http://vimeo.com/47207697 Tom says he was building a 650B before Joe Breeze and Gary Fisher approached him. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] interview with Ritchey on steel, gravel, wide tires and innovation
elegant, that Ritchey tourer! On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 9:30 PM, Brian Campbell bdcampbel...@gmail.comwrote: My lugged, touring Ritchey. It was built (not for me!) when I was in 5th grade. Still works great. I'm 45 now. Maybe he knows something. http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k292/bylar13/001-3.jpg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/D2guXcsZqa8/unsubscribe?hl=en . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] interview with Ritchey on steel, gravel, wide tires and innovation
Thanks! Funny though, a touring bike that barely fits 30mm tires! On Wednesday, March 6, 2013 4:35:22 PM UTC-5, Tom Goodmann wrote: elegant, that Ritchey tourer! On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 9:30 PM, Brian Campbell bdcamp...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: My lugged, touring Ritchey. It was built (not for me!) when I was in 5th grade. Still works great. I'm 45 now. Maybe he knows something. http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k292/bylar13/001-3.jpg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/D2guXcsZqa8/unsubscribe?hl=en . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] interview with Ritchey on steel, gravel, wide tires and innovation
Wait a second. Tom Ritchey... Jay Ritchey Is TR JR's father?!?!?!?!?!? That is what the 'tubes say. Shocking! Awesome TR video on JR's site- Jay Bird Films. Cheers! cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] interview with Ritchey on steel, gravel, wide tires and innovation
I have huge respect for Tom Ritchey, am intrigued by the Woodsies, but I don't believe the first MTBs built by Rtichey were 650B. There's a good discussion on it here: http://forums.mtbr.com/650b-27-5/tom-ritcheys-1st-mtb-1977-650b-814782.html#post9753648 Remember: a lot of the Repack racers were building upon their experience with and knowledge of 26 (559) Schwinns. Daniel Yorba Linda, CA On Monday, March 4, 2013 9:25:05 PM UTC-8, Mike Schiller wrote: Hugh, the very 1st MTB's that Ritchey made were orignally 650b. http://www.flickr.com/photos/slonie/8008516231/in/faves-37347002@N05/ So we've come full circle. Off topic... but 29ers are here to stay for taller riders. The big wheels roll much better off road. 26 MTBs will gradually fade away except for kids's bikes. ~mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] interview with Ritchey on steel, gravel, wide tires and innovation
My lugged, touring Ritchey. It was built (not for me!) when I was in 5th grade. Still works great. I'm 45 now. Maybe he knows something. http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k292/bylar13/001-3.jpg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] interview with Ritchey on steel, gravel, wide tires and innovation
I guess I believe what he says. Sure the other guys were riding coaster brake Schwinns with 26 tires before that. So was I as a teen in the 70's in SoCal. Of course we just were out riding dirt roads...no Repack. ~mike On Tuesday, March 5, 2013 10:40:44 AM UTC-8, Daniel wrote: I have huge respect for Tom Ritchey, am intrigued by the Woodsies, but I don't believe the first MTBs built by Rtichey were 650B. There's a good discussion on it here: http://forums.mtbr.com/650b-27-5/tom-ritcheys-1st-mtb-1977-650b-814782.html#post9753648 Remember: a lot of the Repack racers were building upon their experience with and knowledge of 26 (559) Schwinns. Daniel Yorba Linda, CA On Monday, March 4, 2013 9:25:05 PM UTC-8, Mike Schiller wrote: Hugh, the very 1st MTB's that Ritchey made were orignally 650b. http://www.flickr.com/photos/slonie/8008516231/in/faves-37347002@N05/ So we've come full circle. Off topic... but 29ers are here to stay for taller riders. The big wheels roll much better off road. 26 MTBs will gradually fade away except for kids's bikes. ~mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] interview with Ritchey on steel, gravel, wide tires and innovation
On Tuesday, March 5, 2013 10:40:44 AM UTC-8, Daniel wrote: I have huge respect for Tom Ritchey, am intrigued by the Woodsies, but I don't believe the first MTBs built by Rtichey were 650B. Have you seen the video by Jay Ritchey: http://vimeo.com/47207697 Tom says he was building a 650B before Joe Breeze and Gary Fisher approached him. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] interview with Ritchey on steel, gravel, wide tires and innovation
I have a Ritchey Road Classic fillet brazed bike. I bought it used after a decade or more on Italian road bike, Reparto Corsa Bianchis and the like. The Ritchey handles and responds better than any of those bikes. Over the years I have re-simplified it with down tube shifters, single pivot brakes, friction shifting, etc. It weighs less than it did with Campy Chorus Ergo and, with 25s instead of 19-23 wide tires, it's a versatile all-day-long bike. The problem comes when going for a ride... Ritchey? All-Rounder? The 3 speed I designed and built? Such terrible choices to have to make! I can only ride one a a time. Ritchey's building philosophy came in part from years of Jobst rides in the Santa Cruz mountains on fire roads, long climbs, hike-a-bikes, etc. Simple and strong gets you there and back again more often than not. I think that there is a slideshow video on YouTube from a number of years of those rides posted by Ray Hosler. Tim On Mar 4, 2013, at 4:56 PM, Aaron Thomas aaron.a.tho...@gmail.com wrote: In light of Grant's recent Blug post, which mentioned the influence of Tom Ritchey, this interview just published on Road Bike Review may be of interest to the list: http://reviews.roadbikereview.com/2013-predictions-tom-ritchey-of-ritchey-design I particularly liked his quip that the bike industry, which innovated away from clearances to run larger tires, is in some ways 'innovating' back to where we started. —Aaron -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] interview with Ritchey on steel, gravel, wide tires and innovation
Thanks Aaron, a very good read. On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 6:21 PM, Tim McNamara tim...@bitstream.net wrote: I have a Ritchey Road Classic fillet brazed bike. I bought it used after a decade or more on Italian road bike, Reparto Corsa Bianchis and the like. The Ritchey handles and responds better than any of those bikes. Over the years I have re-simplified it with down tube shifters, single pivot brakes, friction shifting, etc. It weighs less than it did with Campy Chorus Ergo and, with 25s instead of 19-23 wide tires, it's a versatile all-day-long bike. The problem comes when going for a ride... Ritchey? All-Rounder? The 3 speed I designed and built? Such terrible choices to have to make! I can only ride one a a time. Ritchey's building philosophy came in part from years of Jobst rides in the Santa Cruz mountains on fire roads, long climbs, hike-a-bikes, etc. Simple and strong gets you there and back again more often than not. I think that there is a slideshow video on YouTube from a number of years of those rides posted by Ray Hosler. Tim On Mar 4, 2013, at 4:56 PM, Aaron Thomas aaron.a.tho...@gmail.com wrote: In light of Grant's recent Blug post, which mentioned the influence of Tom Ritchey, this interview just published on Road Bike Review may be of interest to the list: http://reviews.roadbikereview.com/2013-predictions-tom-ritchey-of-ritchey-design I particularly liked his quip that the bike industry, which innovated away from clearances to run larger tires, is in some ways 'innovating' back to where we started. —Aaron -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA ** Censorship is telling a man he can't have a steak just because a baby can't chew it. -*Mark Twain* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] interview with Ritchey on steel, gravel, wide tires and innovation
Aaron thanks for a great read. I've always liked Tom Richey. I also agree with his thought that bikes are coming full circle back to wider tires and lots of innovations are just trends. Just recently mountain bikes were going with 29er's now I hear their going with 650b wheels? Pretty soon we'll be back to 26 wheels. Best, Hugh Sunland, CA On Monday, March 4, 2013 8:27:13 PM UTC-8, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Aaron, a very good read. On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 6:21 PM, Tim McNamara tim...@bitstream.netjavascript: wrote: I have a Ritchey Road Classic fillet brazed bike. I bought it used after a decade or more on Italian road bike, Reparto Corsa Bianchis and the like. The Ritchey handles and responds better than any of those bikes. Over the years I have re-simplified it with down tube shifters, single pivot brakes, friction shifting, etc. It weighs less than it did with Campy Chorus Ergo and, with 25s instead of 19-23 wide tires, it's a versatile all-day-long bike. The problem comes when going for a ride... Ritchey? All-Rounder? The 3 speed I designed and built? Such terrible choices to have to make! I can only ride one a a time. Ritchey's building philosophy came in part from years of Jobst rides in the Santa Cruz mountains on fire roads, long climbs, hike-a-bikes, etc. Simple and strong gets you there and back again more often than not. I think that there is a slideshow video on YouTube from a number of years of those rides posted by Ray Hosler. Tim On Mar 4, 2013, at 4:56 PM, Aaron Thomas aaron.a...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: In light of Grant's recent Blug post, which mentioned the influence of Tom Ritchey, this interview just published on Road Bike Review may be of interest to the list: http://reviews.roadbikereview.com/2013-predictions-tom-ritchey-of-ritchey-design I particularly liked his quip that the bike industry, which innovated away from clearances to run larger tires, is in some ways 'innovating' back to where we started. —Aaron -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA ** Censorship is telling a man he can't have a steak just because a baby can't chew it. -*Mark Twain* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] interview with Ritchey on steel, gravel, wide tires and innovation
Hugh, the very 1st MTB's that Ritchey made were orignally 650b. http://www.flickr.com/photos/slonie/8008516231/in/faves-37347002@N05/ So we've come full circle. Off topic... but 29ers are here to stay for taller riders. The big wheels roll much better off road. 26 MTBs will gradually fade away except for kids's bikes. ~mike On Monday, March 4, 2013 9:05:50 PM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote: Aaron thanks for a great read. I've always liked Tom Richey. I also agree with his thought that bikes are coming full circle back to wider tires and lots of innovations are just trends. Just recently mountain bikes were going with 29er's now I hear their going with 650b wheels? Pretty soon we'll be back to 26 wheels. Best, Hugh Sunland, CA On Monday, March 4, 2013 8:27:13 PM UTC-8, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Aaron, a very good read. On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 6:21 PM, Tim McNamara tim...@bitstream.netwrote: I have a Ritchey Road Classic fillet brazed bike. I bought it used after a decade or more on Italian road bike, Reparto Corsa Bianchis and the like. The Ritchey handles and responds better than any of those bikes. Over the years I have re-simplified it with down tube shifters, single pivot brakes, friction shifting, etc. It weighs less than it did with Campy Chorus Ergo and, with 25s instead of 19-23 wide tires, it's a versatile all-day-long bike. The problem comes when going for a ride... Ritchey? All-Rounder? The 3 speed I designed and built? Such terrible choices to have to make! I can only ride one a a time. Ritchey's building philosophy came in part from years of Jobst rides in the Santa Cruz mountains on fire roads, long climbs, hike-a-bikes, etc. Simple and strong gets you there and back again more often than not. I think that there is a slideshow video on YouTube from a number of years of those rides posted by Ray Hosler. Tim On Mar 4, 2013, at 4:56 PM, Aaron Thomas aaron.a...@gmail.com wrote: In light of Grant's recent Blug post, which mentioned the influence of Tom Ritchey, this interview just published on Road Bike Review may be of interest to the list: http://reviews.roadbikereview.com/2013-predictions-tom-ritchey-of-ritchey-design I particularly liked his quip that the bike industry, which innovated away from clearances to run larger tires, is in some ways 'innovating' back to where we started. —Aaron -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA ** Censorship is telling a man he can't have a steak just because a baby can't chew it. -*Mark Twain* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
