[RBW] Re: Flat pedal shoes

[David Person]

If you get the chance, you have to try a pair of 5-10's (the Freerider or 
other models).  They stick to the pedal like no other shoe I worn.  Almost 
as good a connection as my Speedplay clipless.

On Saturday, October 17, 2015 at 6:49:56 PM UTC-7, Eric Norris wrote:
>
> What's a good choice for functional cycling shoes for flat pedals that 
> look like cycling shoes (not like oxfords or Birkenstocks)? 
>
> Asking for a friend. 
>
> Eric N 
> www.CampyOnly.com 
> CampyOnlyGuy.blogspot.com 
> Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy

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Re: [RBW] Re: My Rivendell Rodeo build

[Bruce Smitham]

Yeah it's a more versatile bike than I originally thought. I forgot that I
can ride it all day long and all I want to do.

Thanks for the feedback, Bruce

On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 6:11 PM, Richard L  wrote:

> I really like your Roadeo and the build.  There was a Roadeo with flat
> bars on the Rivendell Blug a while back.  The bars might have been MAP's
> instead of Albatross'.
>
> A high performance road bike with flat bars?  Horrors, what would some of
> the other forums dedicated to road bikes think?
>
> That's the nice thing about this group.  The responses are positive and
> helpful, in recognition of how versatile a Rivendell bike really is.
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[RBW] Re: Flat pedal shoes

[JohnS]

For the past month I've been wearing Giro New Republic bike shoes. They 
look like old school leather shoes and are very comfortable. They are 
designed for SPD pedals, but my feet/legs/ankles are not compatible with 
clipless pedals, so I modified the shoes to work with an old pair of MKS 
steel cage pedals. I unscrewed the outer pads from the soles of the 
shoes and cut the rubber treads off a pair of flip flops. I then cut the 
rubber treads to size and screwed them to the soles of the New Republic 
shoes. They work great! I really like the rigid soles, I was noticing some 
stress from my feet flexing when I had rode longer distances, greater than 
10 miles, with my Keen sandals. I got my New Republic shoes on sale for 
about $95. The leather Republic shoes are a $100 more, which is out of my 
price range.
 
JohnS
 

On Saturday, October 17, 2015 at 9:49:56 PM UTC-4, Eric Norris wrote:

> What's a good choice for functional cycling shoes for flat pedals that 
> look like cycling shoes (not like oxfords or Birkenstocks)? 
>
> Asking for a friend. 
>
> Eric N 
> www.CampyOnly.com 
> CampyOnlyGuy.blogspot.com 
> Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy

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Re: [RBW] Re: Flat pedal shoes

[Eric Norris]

You mentioned narrow heels—yes, that’s partly what I’m looking for. As you 
note, most “running” or “normal” shoes have a sole that’s wide at the heel and 
can hit the bike.

The Sidi shoe you included in your email is in the right ballpark, but not with 
all the color (I prefer black cycling shoes) and not necessarily with the 
ratcheting and velcro closures.

With all due respect to the Deacon and others, I *do* prefer a stiffer sole. I 
don’t think I have “weak feet,” but they do appreciate having a stiffer sole 
between them and the pedal.

FWIW, I’m trying out a pair of these, but without the cleat installed:

http://www.chromeindustries.com/us/en/truk-pro-black/ 
 

They’re pretty close to what I’m looking for—understated looks, black, 
stiff(er) sole (see their description).

--Eric Norris
campyonly...@me.com
www.campyonly.com
campyonlyguy.blogspot.com

> On Oct 18, 2015, at 8:52 AM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>  
> Eric
>  
> 
> Cycling shoes have a lot of different looks.  What aspect of "look like 
> cycling shoes" are you (or your friend) looking for?  Velcro closures?  Bold 
> graphics?  When we google "cycling shoes images" and come up with something 
> like this:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> Or, when you say "look like cycling shoes" do you just mean "don't look like 
> Birkenstocks or Oxfords"? 
> 
> The thing I don't like about running shoes on flat pedals is that the heel is 
> too wide.  So for me, when I'm at the shoe outlet in the mall, I look for a 
> narrow heel area, among other things.  The Adidas Samba and a couple other 
> Puma models work great for this, for me, but in my eye, they do not look like 
> cycling shoes.  
> 
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
> 
>  
>  
> On Saturday, October 17, 2015 at 6:49:56 PM UTC-7, Eric Norris wrote:
>  
> What's a good choice for functional cycling shoes for flat pedals that look 
> like cycling shoes (not like oxfords or Birkenstocks)? 
> 
> Asking for a friend. 
> 
> Eric N 
> www.CampyOnly.com  
> CampyOnlyGuy.blogspot.com  
> Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy
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[RBW] Re: FS: Low Trail customized Hunqapillar size 58

[Abcyclehank]

Do you have a price for F/F/HS/BB only?  Also feel it is the greatest looking 
Hunq.  Just have 2-3 bikes worth of Riv parts at home; too many of us have 
sampled the Kool Aid.

Ryan

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[RBW] A couple of Sackville questions

[Rod Holland]

Thanks to both Patricks for your swift and helpful replies!

rod

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[RBW] Re: Clem Geometry

[Wayne Naha]

What should those values be?

On Sunday, October 18, 2015 at 3:13:41 PM UTC-4, David Banzer wrote:
>
> The trail numbers are incorrect for 26"/559 & 650b wheel sizes. Other than 
> that, interesting to see how Clem compares to the Hunq. 
> David
> Chicago 

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[RBW] Re: Clem Geometry

['Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch]

65mm of trail for both 26" and 650B.

Both based on a 60mm tire. 



On Sunday, October 18, 2015 at 3:11:34 PM UTC-5, Wayne Naha wrote:
>
> What should those values be?
>
> On Sunday, October 18, 2015 at 3:13:41 PM UTC-4, David Banzer wrote:
>>
>> The trail numbers are incorrect for 26"/559 & 650b wheel sizes. Other 
>> than that, interesting to see how Clem compares to the Hunq. 
>> David
>> Chicago 
>
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[RBW] Re: Clem Geometry

[iamkeith]

Corrected: 

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[RBW] Re: My Rivendell Rodeo build

[Jeremy Till]

I, for one, heartily approve of this build.  I'm a big proponent of "high 
performance uprights" or "high quality casual."  

http://handlebarchronicles.blogspot.com/2015/01/high-performance-upright-towards-new.html

My own Quickbeam is built up similarly, with swept back bars, ergon grips, 
and lightweight rims + tires, albeit with a fixed gear instead of the 10spd 
road drivetrain.  

https://www.flickr.com/photos/85709120@N07/19206033738/in/dateposted-public/

On Sunday, October 18, 2015 at 11:12:17 AM UTC-7, Bruce Smitham wrote:
>
> I wanted to let you fine folks know how happy I am with my 59cm Rivendell 
> Rodeo. I purchased it from Don Compton right here on the RBW Owners Bunch. 
> I didn't want to change much from the bike because it was so beautiful to 
> look at and ride.It was all Campy 10 speed Chorus and Centaur with Record 
> hubs etc... But I live on a hill and needed gearing to get me up them. I 
> changed the 53/39 cranset and BB to a White Industries BB & VBC 44/28 since 
> my cassette is 13/27. Works flawless. After numerous trials with tires and 
> handlebars I realized the bike is just a little too big for me. A very 
> short stem didn't really solve the problem. I know many cyclists would 
> never consider using Nitto Aluminum Albatross handlebars on a Rivendell 
> Rodeo but that's exactly what I did. I purchased some Campagnolo Veloce 
> flatbar 10 speed shifter/levers and it's sucha joy to ride. The perfect mix 
> of speed and comfort. The Compass Stampede Pass 32mm tires, Brooks Cambium 
> C17, VP-001 pedals and Ergon grips all compliment the bike the way I like. 
> For most of my riding in San Diego, this is the bike of my choice. I've 
> even ridden single-track off-road when using Compass Barlow Pass 38mm tires 
> and it was an amazing experience. I can really go almost anywhere. I'm even 
> thinking of installing my Nitto Hub Area Racks and bags to see how it 
> handles for a lower weight S240.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Bruce in San Diego
>

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[RBW] Re: Visiting the E. Bay & NM

[Deacon Patrick]

Have a great trip, Michael! Though it's near by some standards, it's more 
of a commute than I can make. I look forward to when it might work out!

With abandon,
Patrick

On Sunday, October 18, 2015 at 3:58:13 PM UTC-6, Michael Hechmer wrote:
>
> On Wed. 10/21, well before dawn,  I will head to El Cerrito Ca. to visit 
> my son & granddaughter.  On 11/6 I fly to Albuquerque for a conference at 
> the Hyatt Regency in Bernalillo.  I am bringing my S coupled Trek 
> 620/650B with me.  I will be spending most of my time in Ca. with my 
> granddaughter, Xingyue, but would welcome the opportunity to ride or just 
> visit with people on this list whom I know only electronically.
>
> In NM, I think the conference ends on Sunday 10/8  at 2:00 and my flight 
> leaves at 11:59 PM.  I'm still not sure how I am going to get from 
> Bernalillo to Albuquerque.  I could bring my bike to NM if there was 
> something worth the time putting it together and repacking it.  If not, I 
> would probably ship it home.  Even if there is not a ride in the offing, an 
> afternoon visit & dinner could be enjoyable.
>
> Michael
> It's snowing in Westford, Vt, but still OK foiage.
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Low Trail customized Hunqapillar size 58

[drew]

I think the price is fair. It takes just the right person to spend 3600$ on 
what is essentially a complete custom. Especially folks here who have their own 
parts and ideas for builds. Great, great looking bike though. 

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[RBW] Re: Flat pedal shoes

[Deacon Patrick]

Ha! I hadn't seen that. Thanks, Justin. My bike's drive train is oddly on 
the left side there. Grin. Yes, I should likely disclose that Christine is 
wonderful and sends me shoes every few years for feedback.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Sunday, October 18, 2015 at 3:24:23 PM UTC-6, Justin August wrote:
>
> I see you are modeling for the company here! 
> http://www.zemgear.com/Hike-Trail/b/8119012011?ie=UTF8=Hike+%26+Trail
>

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[RBW] FS XL Rivendells

[Abcyclehank]

68cm Atlantis $2400 traditional Riv basic build 
68cm Quickbeam $1800 Green 3 speed hub
64cm Bombadil $3600 Grey and Kidney Red.

Please contact me off list for pics.

Ryan Hankinson

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[RBW] Re: Flat pedal shoes

[Justin August]

I see you are modeling for the company 
here! 
http://www.zemgear.com/Hike-Trail/b/8119012011?ie=UTF8=Hike+%26+Trail

I may try them next!

-J

On Sunday, October 18, 2015 at 7:29:31 AM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> My take on the stiff shoe thing is if you "need" a stiff shoe for biking 
> your foot's too weak. Get a stronger foot not a shoe that will weaken your 
> foot further. Grin. And for clarity sake, the Zems are not stiff at all. 
> You can roll them up in a ball. zero cushioning or support and they are 
> foot shaped so won't deform your feet by squarshing them into a shape God 
> never intended.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
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[RBW] Re: Flat pedal shoes

[Justin August]

NB Minimus MX20. Great shoe, helps you strengthen your foot instead of 
relying on a stiff sole to compensate. 

-J

On Sunday, October 18, 2015 at 1:27:21 PM UTC-7, Matthew J wrote:
>
> Provided your friend's feet are not all that wide, these New Balance 600C 
> 
>  
> (c stands for cycling) are very well thought out.  Comfortable for walking 
> as well. 
>
> On Saturday, October 17, 2015 at 8:49:56 PM UTC-5, Eric Norris wrote:
>>
>> What's a good choice for functional cycling shoes for flat pedals that 
>> look like cycling shoes (not like oxfords or Birkenstocks)? 
>>
>> Asking for a friend. 
>>
>> Eric N 
>> www.CampyOnly.com 
>> CampyOnlyGuy.blogspot.com 
>> Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy
>
>

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[RBW] Visiting the E. Bay & NM

[Michael Hechmer]

On Wed. 10/21, well before dawn,  I will head to El Cerrito Ca. to visit my 
son & granddaughter.  On 11/6 I fly to Albuquerque for a conference at the 
Hyatt Regency in Bernalillo.  I am bringing my S coupled Trek 620/650B 
with me.  I will be spending most of my time in Ca. with my granddaughter, 
Xingyue, but would welcome the opportunity to ride or just visit with 
people on this list whom I know only electronically.

In NM, I think the conference ends on Sunday 10/8  at 2:00 and my flight 
leaves at 11:59 PM.  I'm still not sure how I am going to get from 
Bernalillo to Albuquerque.  I could bring my bike to NM if there was 
something worth the time putting it together and repacking it.  If not, I 
would probably ship it home.  Even if there is not a ride in the offing, an 
afternoon visit & dinner could be enjoyable.

Michael
It's snowing in Westford, Vt, but still OK foiage.

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[RBW] Re: FS - Frames - Soma San Marcos (59) & VO Campeur (57)

[RDS]

Campeur frame sold.  So, both frames sold.  Thanks!!

On Monday, October 12, 2015 at 12:20:38 PM UTC-4, RDS wrote:
>
> *Soma San Marcos (Size 59)* 
> Probably 2 to 3 years old.  I'd be surprised if it had more than 200 to 
> 300 miles of riding time.  All riding was done on paved bike paths and no 
> off road riding.  The bike just ended up being slightly too big for me.  I 
> am selling the frame, fork, and headset.  Make an offer.  I will email pics 
> to those who are interested and contact me privately.  I haven't 
> disassembled the bike yet, so I will make mention of any scratches or 
> issues when I send pics to those interested.  The bike was assembled by a 
> local REI store when I originally purchased the frame.
>
>
> *Velo Orange Campeur (size 57)*I purchased this frame earlier this year.  
> I purchased this frame to use as my first attempt at building up a bike 
> from scratch.  I am not exactly good at things like this, but I wanted to 
> give it a try.  I did learn a little along the way, but I better leave most 
> of the work to bike mechanics.  Let's just say, it didn't work out so well 
> ha ha.  In the end, I couldn't get the handlebars as high as I wanted them 
> for this frame.  I'd guess that this frame has less than 75 miles of riding 
> time (all on pavement and unloaded).  BE WARNED, there are scratches due to 
> my ignorance.  I scratched the paint off pretty good on the seat tube where 
> the front derailer band is attached (lots of sliding up and down).  This 
> area is a pretty big area as I had an awful time trying to figure out the 
> FD, drivetrain, BB issues due to my ignorance.  I did obtain a small bottle 
> of touchup paint from VO and have painted over this area though I'm sure 
> the area will still show in the pics.  There was another scratch near the 
> rear dropout on the chainstay that I touched up with paint.  A tiny circle 
> on one of the front fork legs was touched up.  The frame should be in good 
> shape other than being the victim of a bike mechanic wannabe.  So, know 
> going in, that there are scratches to the paint and I hopefully have 
> touched all of them up with the paint from VO.  I will send what remains of 
> the touchup paint with the frame.  I was thinking maybe $350 shipped, but I 
> will entertain any offers.
>
>  I will have pictures ready for both frames in the near future.  Send 
> a private email if you want me to send pics.*
>

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[RBW] Re: My Rivendell Rodeo build

[Don Compton]

Bruce,
I am glad you like the bike. I missed that bike so much that I ordered 
another Roadeo frame set ( same size ). 
It says something about the Roadeo's neutral handling that the bike can 
feel so good in two different setups.
Now, go out and ride the heck out of it.
Don

On Sunday, October 18, 2015 at 11:12:17 AM UTC-7, Bruce Smitham wrote:
>
> I wanted to let you fine folks know how happy I am with my 59cm Rivendell 
> Rodeo. I purchased it from Don Compton right here on the RBW Owners Bunch. 
> I didn't want to change much from the bike because it was so beautiful to 
> look at and ride.It was all Campy 10 speed Chorus and Centaur with Record 
> hubs etc... But I live on a hill and needed gearing to get me up them. I 
> changed the 53/39 cranset and BB to a White Industries BB & VBC 44/28 since 
> my cassette is 13/27. Works flawless. After numerous trials with tires and 
> handlebars I realized the bike is just a little too big for me. A very 
> short stem didn't really solve the problem. I know many cyclists would 
> never consider using Nitto Aluminum Albatross handlebars on a Rivendell 
> Rodeo but that's exactly what I did. I purchased some Campagnolo Veloce 
> flatbar 10 speed shifter/levers and it's sucha joy to ride. The perfect mix 
> of speed and comfort. The Compass Stampede Pass 32mm tires, Brooks Cambium 
> C17, VP-001 pedals and Ergon grips all compliment the bike the way I like. 
> For most of my riding in San Diego, this is the bike of my choice. I've 
> even ridden single-track off-road when using Compass Barlow Pass 38mm tires 
> and it was an amazing experience. I can really go almost anywhere. I'm even 
> thinking of installing my Nitto Hub Area Racks and bags to see how it 
> handles for a lower weight S240.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Bruce in San Diego
>

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[RBW] Re: Clem Geometry

[Tim Wood]

Keith, great analysis. I have to admit, I thought I had a good grasp on fit and 
geometry charts, but can honestly say that I have I no idea how front centre 
translates to ride and fit. I come from a road background and always based my 
sizing on tt length and head tube (a little thought was put in to ht/st angles 
but again I didn't know how they translated).  For years I have been under the 
assumption that I needed a 57/58cm tt and that's that. So the thought of a 64cm 
tt is a lot to wrap my head around. 

Like you said,I'm going to trust in the process and method and hope it all 
works out (gulp). What reassures me is the comparison you make between a 59 
Clem and a 58 hunq being close in size and fit. I'm not sure why this reassures 
me cuz I've never ridden a 58 hunq, but I feel like if I were to buy one I'd 
buy a 58. Yikes. 

Anyway, not gonna stress about it, just gonna open that box when it gets here 
and ride off in to the sunset with my bars high.and hope that I can reach 
them. 

Tim

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[RBW] News Flash! Grant reverses ideas about bar height!

[Tim Wood]

Bahaah. Gee, wonder why the guy is selling that thing? Right, because it's 
un-rideable. Cheers. 

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[RBW] Re: FS ShopSacks in Grid Grey fabric

[Steven Butcher]

Sold both bags.  Thanks for looking.

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> Offering for sale one Large and one Medium Sackville ShopSack both in the 
> now discontinued Grid Grey fabric.  Both are in very good condition without 
> holes, rips, or tears and zippers are just fine.  Fabric on large is mildly 
> soiled from dust/dirt but should wipe down.  Both bags have the brass clasp 
> for attaching to a basket.  Asking $50.00 for the large and $40.00 for the 
> medium.  If purchaser buys both, I'll pay shipping; otherwise shipping will 
> probably be about $10.00 each.  Please message me off list if questions.   
> Thanks, Steve.
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Re: [RBW] Darning wool socks

[Jenny]

It's called needle felting.

http://www.marthastewart.com/907973/felted-sweater-patches


- Jenny
Washington, DC

On Wednesday, October 14, 2015 at 10:03:52 PM UTC-4, cyclot...@gmail.com 
wrote:
>
> BTW, what's the wool repair technique where you use a fluff ball of 
> wool and and needle to re-fill a hole? 
>
> On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 11:39 AM, Aaron Young <1ce...@gmail.com 
> > wrote: 
> > Thanks for the suggestions.  I'm going to try darning.  If I have any 
> > success I'll report back. 
> > 
> > -Aaron Young 
> > The Dalles, OR 
> > 
> > On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 7:45 AM, Patrick Moore  > wrote: 
> >> 
> >> If you tend to wear holes in good socks, as I do with my big or even 
> >> longer 2nd toes (heels last forever), and if you want workable but 
> quick 
> >> results without having to think much about it, I've long since found 
> that 
> >> cross -stitching and crudely reweaving with regular thread and needle 
> works 
> >> fine, if it looks crude. The secret is not to pull the gap closed so 
> much as 
> >> "cover it up" with thread, though you do in fact pull it together to 
> some 
> >> extent. It takes me less than 10 minutes a hole including threading the 
> >> needle with my poor nearsight vision and putting the kit back into the 
> >> cupbord. 
> >> 
> >> I had several pairs of Rivendell heavy wool socks circa 2008 or so that 
> my 
> >> toes wore through in the blink of an eye, and I repeatedly "darned" 
> these as 
> >> above until I got tired of doing so and tossed them earlier this year. 
> >> 
> >> But my "method" has allowed up to 9 additional lives for certain nice 
> wool 
> >> socks. 
> >> 
> >> A previous owner of the wonderful Cycles Wolfe Biene retro wool jersey 
> I 
> >> own (front pockets!!) fixed several moth holes by carefully sewing 
> little 
> >> patches of cloth around the perimeter of the patches, inside the holes. 
> It's 
> >> neat, though said person did use white cloth, which I camouflaged with 
> a 
> >> yellow marker. It's hard to see the repairs. 
> >> 
> >> On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 8:13 AM, Eunice Chang  > 
> >> wrote: 
> >>> 
> >>> Here you go: 
> >>> 
> >>> http://www.knitty.com/ISSUEsummer08/FEATsum08TT.html - it tells you 
> all 
> >>> the equipment you need, such as a darning egg (or mushroom) and 
> tapestry 
> >>> needle. 
> >>> 
> >>> I don't know how thick the yarn is, but you can probably use sock yarn 
> if 
> >>> you go to a yarn shop. They're wool reinforced with a bit of nylon so 
> they 
> >>> can stand up to wear and tear. You probably can weave in yarn as many 
> times 
> >>> as you want. Avoid short-lived fibers such as merino or angora or 
> cashmere- 
> >>> they'll just result in more holes. 
> >>> 
> >>> The other option is to get thin (but flexible) felt squares and to sew 
> it 
> >>> to the heel. The felt will mold to the heel and might last longer than 
> the 
> >>> sock yarn, though it may also stretch the existing area it is 
> connected to. 
> >>> 
> >>> Mostly, though, I just stuff the sock with batting and knot it and 
> give 
> >>> it to my dog. 
> >>> 
> >>> -E. 
> >>> 
> >>> On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 6:47 PM, Aaron Young <1ce...@gmail.com 
> > wrote: 
>  
>  The heels of my wool socks I bought from Riv are getting pretty thin. 
> I 
>  thought I would try to reinforce them by darning.  Has anyone tried 
> that? 
>  Success or failure?  Which type of wool did you use? 
>  
>  Please, help me get out of this heel hole. :) 
>  
>  Thanks, 
>  
>  Aaron 
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[RBW] My Rivendell Rodeo build

[hsmitham]

Nice build Bruce.

I've ridden the bike and it's quick, nimble and highly responsive. I also rode 
it in it's other iteration and it was fantastic,  though with the upright 
configuration the comfort level is extraordinary. No rules, just do what feels 
right.

Tail Winds,

~Hugh

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Re: [RBW] Darning wool socks

[cyclotourist]

That's the stuff! Thanks, Jenny!

On Sat, Oct 17, 2015 at 12:56 PM, Jenny  wrote:
> It's called needle felting.
>
> http://www.marthastewart.com/907973/felted-sweater-patches
>
>
> - Jenny
> Washington, DC
>
> On Wednesday, October 14, 2015 at 10:03:52 PM UTC-4, cyclot...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>>
>> BTW, what's the wool repair technique where you use a fluff ball of
>> wool and and needle to re-fill a hole?
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 11:39 AM, Aaron Young <1ce...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Thanks for the suggestions.  I'm going to try darning.  If I have any
>> > success I'll report back.
>> >
>> > -Aaron Young
>> > The Dalles, OR
>> >
>> > On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 7:45 AM, Patrick Moore 
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> If you tend to wear holes in good socks, as I do with my big or even
>> >> longer 2nd toes (heels last forever), and if you want workable but
>> >> quick
>> >> results without having to think much about it, I've long since found
>> >> that
>> >> cross -stitching and crudely reweaving with regular thread and needle
>> >> works
>> >> fine, if it looks crude. The secret is not to pull the gap closed so
>> >> much as
>> >> "cover it up" with thread, though you do in fact pull it together to
>> >> some
>> >> extent. It takes me less than 10 minutes a hole including threading the
>> >> needle with my poor nearsight vision and putting the kit back into the
>> >> cupbord.
>> >>
>> >> I had several pairs of Rivendell heavy wool socks circa 2008 or so that
>> >> my
>> >> toes wore through in the blink of an eye, and I repeatedly "darned"
>> >> these as
>> >> above until I got tired of doing so and tossed them earlier this year.
>> >>
>> >> But my "method" has allowed up to 9 additional lives for certain nice
>> >> wool
>> >> socks.
>> >>
>> >> A previous owner of the wonderful Cycles Wolfe Biene retro wool jersey
>> >> I
>> >> own (front pockets!!) fixed several moth holes by carefully sewing
>> >> little
>> >> patches of cloth around the perimeter of the patches, inside the holes.
>> >> It's
>> >> neat, though said person did use white cloth, which I camouflaged with
>> >> a
>> >> yellow marker. It's hard to see the repairs.
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 8:13 AM, Eunice Chang 
>> >> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Here you go:
>> >>>
>> >>> http://www.knitty.com/ISSUEsummer08/FEATsum08TT.html - it tells you
>> >>> all
>> >>> the equipment you need, such as a darning egg (or mushroom) and
>> >>> tapestry
>> >>> needle.
>> >>>
>> >>> I don't know how thick the yarn is, but you can probably use sock yarn
>> >>> if
>> >>> you go to a yarn shop. They're wool reinforced with a bit of nylon so
>> >>> they
>> >>> can stand up to wear and tear. You probably can weave in yarn as many
>> >>> times
>> >>> as you want. Avoid short-lived fibers such as merino or angora or
>> >>> cashmere-
>> >>> they'll just result in more holes.
>> >>>
>> >>> The other option is to get thin (but flexible) felt squares and to sew
>> >>> it
>> >>> to the heel. The felt will mold to the heel and might last longer than
>> >>> the
>> >>> sock yarn, though it may also stretch the existing area it is
>> >>> connected to.
>> >>>
>> >>> Mostly, though, I just stuff the sock with batting and knot it and
>> >>> give
>> >>> it to my dog.
>> >>>
>> >>> -E.
>> >>>
>> >>> On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 6:47 PM, Aaron Young <1ce...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>  The heels of my wool socks I bought from Riv are getting pretty thin.
>>  I
>>  thought I would try to reinforce them by darning.  Has anyone tried
>>  that?
>>  Success or failure?  Which type of wool did you use?
>> 
>>  Please, help me get out of this heel hole. :)
>> 
>>  Thanks,
>> 
>>  Aaron
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[RBW] Re: Flat pedal shoes

[Matthew J]

Provided your friend's feet are not all that wide, these New Balance 600C 
 
(c stands for cycling) are very well thought out.  Comfortable for walking 
as well. 

On Saturday, October 17, 2015 at 8:49:56 PM UTC-5, Eric Norris wrote:
>
> What's a good choice for functional cycling shoes for flat pedals that 
> look like cycling shoes (not like oxfords or Birkenstocks)? 
>
> Asking for a friend. 
>
> Eric N 
> www.CampyOnly.com 
> CampyOnlyGuy.blogspot.com 
> Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy

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[RBW] Re: My Rivendell Rodeo build

[Richard L]

I really like your Roadeo and the build.  There was a Roadeo with flat bars 
on the Rivendell Blug a while back.  The bars might have been MAP's instead 
of Albatross'.

A high performance road bike with flat bars?  Horrors, what would some of 
the other forums dedicated to road bikes think?

That's the nice thing about this group.  The responses are positive and 
helpful, in recognition of how versatile a Rivendell bike really is.

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[RBW] Re: Clem Geometry

[iamkeith]

On Saturday, October 17, 2015 at 10:53:49 AM UTC-6, Tim Wood wrote:
>
>
> I'm a little concerned about the 64cm of tt length I'll be rocking on my 
> 59 but with bosco bars I'm sure reach won't be a major concern. 


Going to be an interesting  experience, isn't it?!  Here's thought:  

Compared to the 58 Hunq., the top tube is 4 cm longer, but the front 
center is only 2.3 cm longer.   In addition to that, the slightly slacker 
(1/2 degree) head angle will shove the handlebars further backward, toward 
the rider, making it feel effectively shorter yet - so probably pretty 
comparable in fit to that size Hunq.   However, add the extra reach-back of 
the bosco bars, as you say, and I wouldn't be surprised if you (and 
I) actually find ourselves needing to embrace a laid-back cruiser-style 
fit, and even set the seat back further than normal.   Otherwise, it might 
feel cramped during out-of-the-saddle climbing?  I haven't ridden a Hunq., 
so this is total speculation, mind you. 

Either way, I'm more inclined these days to follow the cue of a frame's 
seat tube angle, and to accept it as part of the bike designer's intent as 
to how the bike should be set up, rather than go into the process with 
preconceptions that my saddle should always be set the same relative to the 
bottom bracket, or of letting familiarity suggest what I think my ideal top 
tube length is.   If for no other reason than that it helps me rationalize 
owning multiple bikes because it gives them distinct personalities.  I 
think picking a bike based on top tube is a good measure when you buy from 
a mainstream bike shop that simply parrots what the fit charts and 
magazines say, and would otherwise put you on the wrong size, but Rivendell 
is a bit different.

Attached is a side-by-side comparison between the Clem and Hunq.  I filled 
in some blanks based on what we know now. Looks like there might be some 
typos in the steering geometry of the 52 Clem though - so no guarantee that 
this is correct.



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[RBW] Re: Clem Geometry

[David Banzer]

The trail numbers are incorrect for 26"/559 & 650b wheel sizes. Other than 
that, interesting to see how Clem compares to the Hunq. 
David
Chicago 

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[RBW] Re: My Rivendell Rodeo build

[Deacon Patrick]

What a fun and free build! Enjoy!

With abandon,
Patrick

On Sunday, October 18, 2015 at 12:12:17 PM UTC-6, Bruce Smitham wrote:
>
> I wanted to let you fine folks know how happy I am with my 59cm Rivendell 
> Rodeo. I purchased it from Don Compton right here on the RBW Owners Bunch. 
> I didn't want to change much from the bike because it was so beautiful to 
> look at and ride.It was all Campy 10 speed Chorus and Centaur with Record 
> hubs etc... But I live on a hill and needed gearing to get me up them. I 
> changed the 53/39 cranset and BB to a White Industries BB & VBC 44/28 since 
> my cassette is 13/27. Works flawless. After numerous trials with tires and 
> handlebars I realized the bike is just a little too big for me. A very 
> short stem didn't really solve the problem. I know many cyclists would 
> never consider using Nitto Aluminum Albatross handlebars on a Rivendell 
> Rodeo but that's exactly what I did. I purchased some Campagnolo Veloce 
> flatbar 10 speed shifter/levers and it's sucha joy to ride. The perfect mix 
> of speed and comfort. The Compass Stampede Pass 32mm tires, Brooks Cambium 
> C17, VP-001 pedals and Ergon grips all compliment the bike the way I like. 
> For most of my riding in San Diego, this is the bike of my choice. I've 
> even ridden single-track off-road when using Compass Barlow Pass 38mm tires 
> and it was an amazing experience. I can really go almost anywhere. I'm even 
> thinking of installing my Nitto Hub Area Racks and bags to see how it 
> handles for a lower weight S240.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Bruce in San Diego
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Low Trail customized Hunqapillar size 58

[René Sterental]

Yeah. It seems I'll have to disassemble it and post the frame and parts for
sale separately. There was some interest in the past for the frame alone,
so perhaps that is the best route.

René

On Sunday, October 18, 2015, BenG  wrote:

> I would LOVE your pewter Hunqapillar, but I could only trade for it, which
> would be a defeat on your quiver quest.  It's a perfect fit to my bike
> wants, though.
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[RBW] Re: Flat pedal shoes

[Dave Brandt]

I run Adidas Terrex Solo for the extra foot support and rubber toe. 

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[RBW] A couple of Sackville questions

[Rod Holland]

As part of a build of a Rawland Nordavinden, I installed a Nitto M-18 rack. 
I just ordered a Small Sackville TrunkSack for that, seemed like a way to 
get ~3L of capacity without having to make annoying choices about the 
Rawland's cockpit (I'm currently set up with interrupter levers, and like 
'em). It hasn't arrived yet, but I'm assuming this line of bike bags does 
OK with wet weather. I know I'll get my own experience with that soon 
enough, but would appreciate hearing what others in this group have learned 
from there own experience, especially about maintenance.

Second question: assuming all goes well with the TrunkSack, I could imagine 
supplementing it with a SaddleSack (either Small or Medium). My saddle 
doesn't have loops, and I don't particularly want to swap it out, since it 
fits where I sit, and I've got the same saddle on 4 bikes. Reflexive 
googling got me to the potentially helpful Velo Orange Saddle Loops 
,
 
which apparently would allow me to adapt my existing saddle for this use. 
Has anyone had experience with this gizmo? Are there competing products 
worth trying?

Thanks,

rod

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Re: [RBW] A couple of Sackville questions

[Patrick Moore]

I've used the VO loops and they work well; they're better than the original
Cyclos, certainly.

OTOH, I've very often simply strapped bags to the rails of my Flites with
excellent results. You do have to conscientiously pull the straps tight,
though.

On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 7:35 AM, Rod Holland  wrote:

> As part of a build of a Rawland Nordavinden, I installed a Nitto M-18
> rack. I just ordered a Small Sackville TrunkSack for that, seemed like a
> way to get ~3L of capacity without having to make annoying choices about
> the Rawland's cockpit (I'm currently set up with interrupter levers, and
> like 'em). It hasn't arrived yet, but I'm assuming this line of bike bags
> does OK with wet weather. I know I'll get my own experience with that soon
> enough, but would appreciate hearing what others in this group have learned
> from there own experience, especially about maintenance.
>
> Second question: assuming all goes well with the TrunkSack, I could
> imagine supplementing it with a SaddleSack (either Small or Medium). My
> saddle doesn't have loops, and I don't particularly want to swap it out,
> since it fits where I sit, and I've got the same saddle on 4 bikes.
> Reflexive googling got me to the potentially helpful Velo Orange Saddle
> Loops
> ,
> which apparently would allow me to adapt my existing saddle for this use.
> Has anyone had experience with this gizmo? Are there competing products
> worth trying?
>
> Thanks,
>
> rod
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[RBW] Re: Flat pedal shoes

[Ron Mc]

For my feet, it's Merrill Proterra Sports

On Saturday, October 17, 2015 at 8:49:56 PM UTC-5, Eric Norris wrote:
>
> What's a good choice for functional cycling shoes for flat pedals that 
> look like cycling shoes (not like oxfords or Birkenstocks)? 
>
> Asking for a friend. 
>
> Eric N 
> www.CampyOnly.com 
> CampyOnlyGuy.blogspot.com 
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[RBW] Re: Flat pedal shoes

[Garth]

  Merrell makes a bunch of flat bottom shoes , but I honestly do not know 
what "looks like" cycling shoes as they can look like most anything these 
days .  Look at their casual line , like the Freewheel, Rant and Roust of 
which there are multiple versions of each model.



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On Saturday, October 17, 2015 at 9:49:56 PM UTC-4, Eric Norris wrote:
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> What's a good choice for functional cycling shoes for flat pedals that 
> look like cycling shoes (not like oxfords or Birkenstocks)? 
>
> Asking for a friend. 
>
> Eric N 
> www.CampyOnly.com 
> CampyOnlyGuy.blogspot.com 
> Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy

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[RBW] Re: Flat pedal shoes

[Kevin Lindsey]

To be honest, I just wear my old running shoes.  They're comfortable, 
already broken in, and I can walk in 'em once I arrive.  Some might 
complain that the soles are not very stiff, but I've never found that to be 
a problem.
Kevin

On Sunday, October 18, 2015 at 8:47:39 AM UTC-4, Dave Brandt wrote:
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> I run Adidas Terrex Solo for the extra foot support and rubber toe. 

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[RBW] Re: Flat pedal shoes

[Deacon Patrick]

My take on the stiff shoe thing is if you "need" a stiff shoe for biking 
your foot's too weak. Get a stronger foot not a shoe that will weaken your 
foot further. Grin. And for clarity sake, the Zems are not stiff at all. 
You can roll them up in a ball. zero cushioning or support and they are 
foot shaped so won't deform your feet by squarshing them into a shape God 
never intended.

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] Re: A couple of Sackville questions

[Deacon Patrick]

They are fantastic in all weather, any length of ride. I've done 
bikepacking trips that were multi-day rain settled in for the long haul. I 
don't bag things, just stuffing them in. Here's the details of how they 
work in my experience:

-- TrunkSacks: some minimal water will seem in at the exposed zipper. Not 
enough to matter on a day ride, and I don't care too strongly on a 
multi-day ride as it is my food bag. I use a small on the front for food on 
multi-day rides, and a large on the rear rack for day rides.

-- TourSacks: These are my most abused bags and I just popped the D-ring 
rivet on one of them. The field fix was tying it together with a lace and 
using other D-rings to secure the load. No change to the trip. When riding, 
I've had no issues with rain or snow finding their way into the bags. I 
keep the panniers in the vestibule at night, so they aren't sitting out in 
all-night rains.

-- SaddleSack: If they didn't keep the weight up so high, I'd go with these 
every time. I found the easy access to everything a big bonus, and never 
got wet inside at all despite being left out nights backpacking through 
some epic torrential all night rains. If my vertigo didn't make me such a 
wimp with the weight higher, I'd bikepack with the large SaddleSack and be 
delighted.

Maintenance: None for 4 years until the rivet popped on my TourSacks. That 
should be an easy fix at a local store, but I've yet to call around. Mud 
collects nicely on them, dried, and falls off with use. Rain and snow shed 
beautifully. Bashes and scrapes into raw/sharp decomposed granite rocks and 
boulders s shrugged off without issue. These are hearty beastly bags that I 
expect to last a decades of horrendous, loving abuse, er, use. Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

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>  I'm assuming this line of bike bags does OK with wet weather.
>
> Thanks,
>
> rod
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[RBW] EBDJ

[Iron Rider]

I'm in the third week of a month long "test" of the low carb high fat eating 
plan (consistent with "Eat Bacon Don't Jog.") 
 Some observations: I have  consistent high quality level of energy - no more 
more big fluctuations based on meals.

Soreness and achiness are greatly reduced even though I am getting regular, 
quality exercise (weight training, track intervals, an 8:30 200K ride last 
weekend and an 8:15 hilly 150K this weekend). 
My mood is upbeat - not weirdly happy- just contentedly mellow/ more relaxed.
It is possible to do long rides on less than 30 grams of carbs without bonking.
Oh yeah - I also dropped 13lbs and it all seems to have come from the 
midsection.

True story. No BS. And no exaggeration. 

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[RBW] Re: Flat pedal shoes

[Bill Lindsay]

Eric 

Cycling shoes have a lot of different looks.  What aspect of "look like 
cycling shoes" are you (or your friend) looking for?  Velcro closures?  
Bold graphics?  When we google "cycling shoes images" and come up with 
something like this:







Or, when you say "look like cycling shoes" do you just mean "don't look 
like Birkenstocks or Oxfords"? 

The thing I don't like about running shoes on flat pedals is that the heel 
is too wide.  So for me, when I'm at the shoe outlet in the mall, I look 
for a narrow heel area, among other things.  The Adidas Samba and a couple 
other Puma models work great for this, for me, but in my eye, they do not 
look like cycling shoes.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

 
 

> On Saturday, October 17, 2015 at 6:49:56 PM UTC-7, Eric Norris wrote:

 

> What's a good choice for functional cycling shoes for flat pedals that 
> look like cycling shoes (not like oxfords or Birkenstocks)? 
>
> Asking for a friend. 
>
> Eric N 
> www.CampyOnly.com 
> CampyOnlyGuy.blogspot.com 
> Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy

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[RBW] Re: Flat pedal shoes

[Clayton.sf]

510 are great!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Flat pedal shoes

[cyclotourist]

Ha! Was just gifted a pair of those:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/21639152933/

BTW, Brad C has a pair of size 9 that are looking for a new home (in
comments at above link).

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[RBW] Re: FS: Low Trail customized Hunqapillar size 58

[BenG]

I would LOVE your pewter Hunqapillar, but I could only trade for it, which 
would be a defeat on your quiver quest.  It's a perfect fit to my bike wants, 
though.

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