Re: [RDA-L] RDA name authorities |c (Fictitious character)

2013-10-08 Thread Patricia Sayre-McCoy
Surely we include fictitious character for these names? Do we really want 
them to look like real people?
Pat

Patricia Sayre-McCoy
Head, Law Cataloging and Serials
D’Angelo Law Library
University of Chicago
773-702-9620
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[mailto:RDA-L@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca] On Behalf Of Robert Maxwell
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 2:37 PM
To: RDA-L@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca
Subject: Re: [RDA-L] RDA name authorities |c (Fictitious character)

This access point for Wiggin, Ender was first established by BYU *without* a 
qualifier, following LC's instructions only to add qualifier to these access 
point if there was a conflict. Somebody at BL took it upon themselves to add 
the qualifier (without the appropriate subfield coding, as you note). I do not 
think it was appropriate to change this access point, since there was no 
conflict at the time it was established and there is no new conflict now. 
(Subsequently somebody at Washington corrected the subfield coding).

The access point for Wiggin, Peter was first established by BYU *with* a 
qualifier (correctly coded) because there *was* a conflict with another Peter 
Wiggin.

Bob

Robert L. Maxwell
Ancient Languages and Special Collections Cataloger
6728 Harold B. Lee Library
Brigham Young University
Provo, UT 84602
(801)422-5568 

We should set an example for all the world, rather than confine ourselves to 
the course which has been heretofore pursued--Eliza R. Snow, 1842.

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Subject: [RDA-L] RDA name authorities |c (Fictitious character)

I'm working through today's name authority changes  wondering why I'm finding:
‡a Wiggin, Ender (Fictitious character)  but ‡a Wiggin, Peter ‡c (Fictitious 
character)

Is this simply two different agencies interpreting the rules differently? 

We don't catalog a lot of fiction here so I've not much experience with 
fictitious characters.  I do edit our base library records occasionally  they 
have a number of Card's titles. 

I'd send this to LChelp4rda but I am guessing they are not back at work as yet.

//SIGNED//
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Re: [RDA-L] Dagger symbol

2013-09-12 Thread Patricia Sayre-McCoy
Please explain why this is necessary to transcribe? At some point, every author 
will be dead so what's the point of making note of it now? I really don't see 
that this is vital information for the identification of the 
manifestation/expression.
Pat



Patricia Sayre-McCoy
Head, Law Cataloging and Serials
D'Angelo Law Library
University of Chicago
773-702-9620
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Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Dagger symbol

On 9/12/2013 10:13 PM, Schutt, Misha wrote:
snip
 A Friday hypothetical question in the same general area: in Soviet 
 books, if the author is deceased, the name on the title page is 
 generally enclosed in a box. (For this reason, business travelers in 
 Russia are advised that it's offensive to draw a box around someone's 
 name for emphasis, say, in an appointment book or meeting notes, since 
 in effect you'd be wishing them dead.)

 Would that be reflected in a note somehow, or simply disregarded as 
 extraneous graphic material?
/snip

See in the Slavic Cataloging Manual: 
http://www.indiana.edu/~libslav/slavcatman/box.html

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Re: [RDA-L] Title with embedded square brackets

2013-08-30 Thread Patricia Sayre-McCoy
RDA is pretty clear about which elements are to be transcribed, so yes, S-H-E 
would be the title proper. I'd add another title with She so people can 
actually find it.
Pat

Patricia Sayre-McCoy
Head, Law Cataloging and Serials
D'Angelo Law Library
University of Chicago
773-702-9620
p...@uchicago.edu

From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access 
[mailto:RDA-L@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca] On Behalf Of Joan Wang
Sent: Friday, August 30, 2013 8:50 AM
To: RDA-L@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca
Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Title with embedded square brackets

I agree with Adam. RDA 1.7.3 seems to be the most relevant rule we can find. If 
the square brackets used in the word mean a correction or an emphasis, it is 
better to keep them.
But if punctuations are used more like a decoration. For example, she is 
printed as S-H-E in a title page. Should we consider dash as a punctuation 
and keep them?
Have fun :-)

Thanks,
Joan Wang
Illinois Heartland Library System



On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 5:16 PM, Adam L. Schiff 
asch...@u.washington.edumailto:asch...@u.washington.edu wrote:
Transcribe square brackets found on the source of information used.

2.3.1.4 Transcribe a title as it appears on the source of information (see 1.7).

1.7.3 Transcribe punctuation as it appears on the source except for the 
following situations:

a) omit punctuation that separates data to be recorded as one element from data 
to be recorded as a different element

b) omit punctuation that separates data to be recorded as one element from data 
recorded as a second or subsequent instance of the same element.


Since brackets are marks of punctuation (see a nice list at 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punctuation), you transcribe them as found.

Adam

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On Thu, 29 Aug 2013, Billie Hackney wrote:
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2013 13:16:24 -0700
From: Billie Hackney bhack...@getty.edumailto:bhack...@getty.edu
Reply-To: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access
RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CAmailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CAmailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
Subject: [RDA-L] Title with embedded square brackets


I have a print title with a set of square brackets embedded in the first word 
on the piece itself. Here are the first few words of the title:

D[a]edalus, my father's horse, taken from the mill

I have looked in every place in the RDA Toolkit that I can think of, and every 
place listed under square brackets in the index, and cannot find 
instructions. I am aware that in RDA, you're supposed to describe what you see, 
so I assume the 245b should be exactly as I see it:

D[a]edalus, my father's horse, taken from the mill

and I can add a 246 with:

Daedalus, my father's horse, taken from the mill

Is this correct?


Billie Hackney
Senior Monograph Cataloger
Getty Research Institute
1200 Getty Center Drive, Suite 1100
Los Angeles, CA 90049-1688
(310) 440-7616tel:%28310%29%20440-7616
bhack...@getty.edumailto:bhack...@getty.edu

^^
Adam L. Schiff
Principal Cataloger
University of Washington Libraries
Box 352900
Seattle, WA 98195-2900
(206) 543-8409tel:%28206%29%20543-8409
(206) 685-8782tel:%28206%29%20685-8782 fax
asch...@u.washington.edumailto:asch...@u.washington.edu
http://faculty.washington.edu/~aschiff
~~



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Edwardsville, IL 62025
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Re: [RDA-L] 264 question

2013-07-03 Thread Patricia Sayre-McCoy
Per Appendix B.1 state names are included in the “approved” abbreviations. And 
the LC-PCC Policy statement at 1.10.2 says local institutions can establish 
their own guidelines for many things, including abbreviations.
Pat

Patricia Sayre-McCoy
Head, Law Cataloging and Serials
D’Angelo Law Library
University of Chicago
773-702-9620
p...@uchicago.edu

From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access 
[mailto:RDA-L@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca] On Behalf Of Adam Schiff
Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2013 10:43 AM
To: RDA-L@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca
Subject: Re: [RDA-L] 264 question

Oops, I meant if you are supplying a place, you wouldn’t use a postal 
abbreviation.

From: Adam Schiffmailto:asch...@u.washington.edu
Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2013 8:39 AM
To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CAmailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
Subject: Re: [RDA-L] 264 question

It would not be correct to use “SC” in your place of publication.  If you are 
supplying a date, you wouldn’t use a postal abbreviation. Either [Charleston] 
or [Charleston, South Carolina].

Adam Schiff

From: Patricia Mary Gierkemailto:gier...@dut.ac.za
Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2013 7:21 AM
To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CAmailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
Subject: Re: [RDA-L] 264 question

Hi Mary

I agree wholeheartedly – ever SO grateful for this list !

And, if I may say so, I think your final decision is SPOT ON!
I believe we are encouraged to SUPPLY a place of publication or probable place 
whenever possible….which is what you’ve done.
And you obviously KNOW that the book is self-published because it is stated 
somewhere.
Bravo!

Trish Gierke (Cataloguer)

Durban University of Technology Library
PO Box 1334
Durban 4000
South Africa
gier...@dut.ac.zamailto:gier...@dut.ac.za
+27-31-3735458

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[mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Saunders, Mary
Sent: 03 July 2013 01:45 PM
To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CAmailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
Subject: Re: [RDA-L] 264 question

   Thanks to all who responded.  I have decided to make a single 264  1  
[Charleston, SC?] : $b Author’s name, $c [2013]

   As I feel my way along with RDA, I am truly grateful for this discussion 
list!



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  Maine State Library
  64 State House Station
  Augusta, ME 04333-0064

  mary.saund...@maine.govmailto:mary.saund...@maine.gov

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Re: [RDA-L] 264 question

2013-07-03 Thread Patricia Sayre-McCoy
But in this case, there’s nothing to transcribe. The place of publication is 
cataloger supplied.
Pat

Patricia Sayre-McCoy
Head, Law Cataloging and Serials
D’Angelo Law Library
University of Chicago
773-702-9620
p...@uchicago.edu

From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access 
[mailto:RDA-L@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca] On Behalf Of Robert Maxwell
Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2013 11:02 AM
To: RDA-L@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca
Subject: Re: [RDA-L] 264 question

Appendix B does not apply to “transcribed elements” (see B.4). The Pubication 
Statement is a transcribed element (see 2.8.1.4). Also B.4 instructs “If 
supplying all or part of a transcribed element, generally do not abbreviate 
words.”

Bob

Robert L. Maxwell
Head, Special Collections and Formats Catalog Dept.
6728 Harold B. Lee Library
Brigham Young University
Provo, UT 84602
(801)422-5568

We should set an example for all the world, rather than confine ourselves to 
the course which has been heretofore pursued--Eliza R. Snow, 1842.

From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access 
[mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Patricia Sayre-McCoy
Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2013 9:52 AM
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Subject: Re: [RDA-L] 264 question

Per Appendix B.1 state names are included in the “approved” abbreviations. And 
the LC-PCC Policy statement at 1.10.2 says local institutions can establish 
their own guidelines for many things, including abbreviations.
Pat

Patricia Sayre-McCoy
Head, Law Cataloging and Serials
D’Angelo Law Library
University of Chicago
773-702-9620
p...@uchicago.edumailto:p...@uchicago.edu

From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access 
[mailto:RDA-L@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca]mailto:[mailto:RDA-L@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca]
 On Behalf Of Adam Schiff
Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2013 10:43 AM
To: RDA-L@listserv.lac-bac.gc.camailto:RDA-L@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca
Subject: Re: [RDA-L] 264 question

Oops, I meant if you are supplying a place, you wouldn’t use a postal 
abbreviation.

From: Adam Schiffmailto:asch...@u.washington.edu
Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2013 8:39 AM
To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CAmailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
Subject: Re: [RDA-L] 264 question

It would not be correct to use “SC” in your place of publication.  If you are 
supplying a date, you wouldn’t use a postal abbreviation. Either [Charleston] 
or [Charleston, South Carolina].

Adam Schiff

From: Patricia Mary Gierkemailto:gier...@dut.ac.za
Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2013 7:21 AM
To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CAmailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
Subject: Re: [RDA-L] 264 question

Hi Mary

I agree wholeheartedly – ever SO grateful for this list !

And, if I may say so, I think your final decision is SPOT ON!
I believe we are encouraged to SUPPLY a place of publication or probable place 
whenever possible….which is what you’ve done.
And you obviously KNOW that the book is self-published because it is stated 
somewhere.
Bravo!

Trish Gierke (Cataloguer)

Durban University of Technology Library
PO Box 1334
Durban 4000
South Africa
gier...@dut.ac.zamailto:gier...@dut.ac.za
+27-31-3735458

From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access 
[mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Saunders, Mary
Sent: 03 July 2013 01:45 PM
To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CAmailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
Subject: Re: [RDA-L] 264 question

   Thanks to all who responded.  I have decided to make a single 264  1  
[Charleston, SC?] : $b Author’s name, $c [2013]

   As I feel my way along with RDA, I am truly grateful for this discussion 
list!



Mary Saunders, Cataloger
  Maine State Library
  64 State House Station
  Augusta, ME 04333-0064

  mary.saund...@maine.govmailto:mary.saund...@maine.gov

  207-287-5620
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Re: [RDA-L] Publication date including month or exact date: examples?

2013-07-01 Thread Patricia Sayre-McCoy
I have cataloged a number of podcasts and have included the full date in the 
publication date. Some OCLC examples are no. 843384205, no. 845382411, and no. 
842903239. 
Pat

Patricia Sayre-McCoy
Head, Law Cataloging and Serials
D'Angelo Law Library
University of Chicago
773-702-9620
p...@uchicago.edu


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[mailto:RDA-L@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca] On Behalf Of Heidrun Wiesenmüller
Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2013 1:32 PM
To: RDA-L@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca
Subject: [RDA-L] Publication date including month or exact date: examples?

In 2.8.6.3 (Recording date of publication) there is an example May 2000. This 
shows that not only the year, but also the month and presumably even the exact 
date of publication is to be recorded in this element, if it is given in the 
source of information.

I'd like to see some real live examples for this in actual cataloging. 
Has somebody already come across such a case and could point me to the 
corresponding title record?

Thanks,
Heidrun


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Re: [RDA-L] 2.3.1.6 Introductory words

2013-04-19 Thread Patricia Sayre-McCoy
John, our thoughts are with you. May this situation be quickly and safely 
resolved. Keep your head down.
Pat

Patricia Sayre-McCoy
Head, Law Cataloging and Serials
D'Angelo Law Library
University of Chicago
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[mailto:RDA-L@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca] On Behalf Of John Hostage
Sent: Friday, April 19, 2013 1:40 PM
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Subject: Re: [RDA-L] 2.3.1.6 Introductory words

Heidrun,

I wouldn't consider Three books of to be an introductory phrase.  Here 
begynneth a lytell treatyse called might more easily be considered such a 
phrase, but I don't think it was intended by RDA 2.3.1.6.  LCCN 22008862 was 
cataloged in 1922, so it's not an example of AACR2 cataloging, much less RDA.  

Consider examples in 6.2.3.5, 18.5.1.3 (printer), 21.5.1.3 (Worde), where such 
phrases are included in titles proper.  However, such phrases may be omitted 
from the *preferred title* if the work has become known by a shorter title 
(6.2.2.4).  That's what was done in determining the uniform title on 22008862.

Sheltering in place in Watertown, Massachusetts ...

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From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access 
[RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] on behalf of Heidrun Wiesenmüller 
[wiesenmuel...@hdm-stuttgart.de]
Sent: Friday, April 19, 2013 13:53
To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
Subject: [RDA-L] 2.3.1.6 Introductory words

The examples given in 2.3.1.6 for introductory words (not to be
transcribed as part of a title) all seem to be from the area of
audiovisual and electronic resources (e.g. Disney presents). I can see
that the rule can be useful here.

But I'm not so sure about cases like these:
http://lccn.loc.gov/22008862
http://lccn.loc.gov/92033147

I feel that Here begynneth a lytell treatyse called and Three books
of are also introductory words, and therefore would have to be left out
of the title proper of the manifestation, if we take RDA seriously.

Mind, I'm not saying that this would be a good idea. And I'm very happy
to see that LC hasn't done it, although I find it's not a new rule (see
AACR2 1.1.B1).

But now I wonder: Is this due to the fact that LC doesn't use RDA (and
before that, AACR2) for early printed books in the first place? LC-PCC
PS for 0.2 says they use DCRM(B) instead, which unfortunately I don't
know much about. Or am I on the wrong track altogether, and these
phrases are no introductory words at all?

Heidrun

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Re: [RDA-L] Publication date/copyright date

2013-03-28 Thread Patricia Sayre-McCoy
I believe the first solution is exactly what RDA 264 was designed for. I think 
it's far more confusing to have only the 2014 date when we know darn well we 
got the book in 2013.
Pat


Patricia Sayre-McCoy
Head, Law Cataloging and Serials
D’Angelo Law Library
University of Chicago
773-702-9620
p...@uchicago.edu


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[mailto:RDA-L@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca] On Behalf Of Goldfarb, Kathie
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2013 8:48 AM
To: RDA-L@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca
Subject: [RDA-L] Publication date/copyright date

The book I have in hand lists a copyright date of 2014. 

Should the 264 be:

264  1  ...$c [2013]
264  4  4a @2014

Or

264  1  $c [2014]
No 264   4

I am leaning toward the second, since many libraries may receive this book in 
2014, and the first option might be confusing, since they would not know for a 
fact that some were distributed in 2013.

Comments?

Thanks
kathie

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College of the Mainland
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Re: [RDA-L] Publication date/copyright date

2013-03-28 Thread Patricia Sayre-McCoy
But what about the cataloger who received the book in 2013? And the patron who 
used it last week but it can't be this book because this book hasn't been 
published yet? I makes less sense to pretend that the book wasn't published for 
8 months than to include a bracked publication date and make it clear when the 
book was actually available. 
Pat

Patricia Sayre-McCoy
Head, Law Cataloging and Serials
D'Angelo Law Library
University of Chicago
773-702-9620
p...@uchicago.edu


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From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access 
[mailto:RDA-L@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca] On Behalf Of Lisa Hatt
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2013 1:45 PM
To: RDA-L@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca
Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Publication date/copyright date

On 3/28/2013 8:07 AM, Will Evans ev...@bostonathenaeum.org wrote:

 Rules or no rules, shouldn't the record reflect the reality of the
 situation?!

 264#1 $c [2013]
 264#4 $c (c) 2014


 500 Publication received by cataloging agency in 2013. $ MBAt

I'm puzzled by this approach, which seems to second-guess the 
publisher's intent. Unless there's something we haven't been told, I 
don't get the idea that the resource itself makes any statement about 
having been published in 2013. If a cataloger first encountered this 
item in 2014+, they'd have no reason to believe it was published in 
anything other than 2014, because that's the date printed on the thing 
itself, yes?

(I know there are reverse cases where a later ed. such as trade pbk. 
does not actually state its publication date and simply retains the 
copyright of the first hc ed., resulting in situations like [2002], 
c2001 in AACR2. But in that case other information supports the choice 
of supplied date, I think.)

Rare books might be different, and I am no RDA guru, but my feeling 
would be to go with what Deborah recommended.

-- 
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Cataloging
De Anza College Library
408-864-8459


Re: [RDA-L] When will RDA truly arrive? Will it truly arrive?

2013-01-22 Thread Patricia Sayre-McCoy
But many libraries have tried in on live catalogues--anyone who is doing RDA 
now and many libraries who are accepting RDA copy  cataloging. 
Pat

Patricia Sayre-McCoy
Head, Law Cataloging and Serials
D'Angelo Law Library
University of Chicago
773-702-9620
p...@uchicago.edu

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From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access 
[mailto:RDA-L@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca] On Behalf Of Kelleher, Martin
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2013 10:19 AM
To: RDA-L@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca
Subject: Re: [RDA-L] When will RDA truly arrive? Will it truly arrive?

I assumed he meant no-one's actually trialled it on live catalogues, which is 
the impression I had. 

Cheers

Martin

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[mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Kevin M Randall
Sent: 22 January 2013 16:10
To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
Subject: Re: [RDA-L] When will RDA truly arrive? Will it truly arrive?

James Weinheimer wrote:

 The big boys have said they will implement RDA, but it still has never 
 been road-tested.

What do you call the US RDA Test that garnered quite a bit of attention--and 
even used the live LC/NACO Authority File, to boot--if not a road test?  
Not to mention all of the cataloging done by libraries that continued to use 
RDA after the test?

Kevin M. Randall
Principal Serials Cataloger
Northwestern University Library
k...@northwestern.edu
(847) 491-2939

Proudly wearing the sensible shoes since 1978!