Re: [RE-wrenches] Radian, Blue Planet and SMA 21 series AC coupled

[Jerry Shafer via RE-wrenches]

Sure if the peak voltage is not getting to the battery then low SOC will
result. Programming may be a result of comms issues poor or due to old
firmware.
Jerry

On Fri, Apr 22, 2022, 10:31 AM William Miller via RE-wrenches <
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> Friends:
>
>
>
> We are setting up our first Blue Planet system.  It is AC coupled with an
> SMA SB7-21 back-feeding a Radian 8048.We followed all of the
> recommended settings when commissioning.
>
>
>
> The battery SOC is chronically stuck at 90% as displayed by the Blue
> Planet BMU.
>
> I think the problem is the grid sell setting is at 54 VDC.  Blue Planet
> likes 55.2.  I’m going to change that setting this afternoon but due to
> some mysterious Optics bug, I have to drive to the site to do so.
>
>
>
> If anyone has any experience with this kind of setup and can offer any
> advice, well I’d be mighty grateful.
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
>
>
> William Miller
>
>
>
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>
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Radian, Blue Planet and SMA 21 series AC coupled

[Kirpal via RE-wrenches]

William,
You can can set the sell voltage to 54.4 and that will help force a fuller
charge prior to selling. Has worked for me on a site that had the same
symptoms.
You will find that these batteries can be 100% at both 55.2 as well as
54.4due to the flat-ish voltage/soc curve.
Hope that helps.
Happy Friday!
Kirpal@oregonsolarworks

On Fri, Apr 22, 2022, 1:31 PM William Miller via RE-wrenches <
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> Friends:
>
>
>
> We are setting up our first Blue Planet system.  It is AC coupled with an
> SMA SB7-21 back-feeding a Radian 8048.We followed all of the
> recommended settings when commissioning.
>
>
>
> The battery SOC is chronically stuck at 90% as displayed by the Blue
> Planet BMU.
>
> I think the problem is the grid sell setting is at 54 VDC.  Blue Planet
> likes 55.2.  I’m going to change that setting this afternoon but due to
> some mysterious Optics bug, I have to drive to the site to do so.
>
>
>
> If anyone has any experience with this kind of setup and can offer any
> advice, well I’d be mighty grateful.
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
>
>
> William Miller
>
>
>
> Miller Solar
>
> 17395 Oak Road, Atascadero, CA 93422
>
> 805-438-5600
>
> www.millersolar.com
>
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Optics will not accept remote programming

[Jerry Shafer via RE-wrenches]

I have only seen this if you have spotty signal strength to the inverter,
are you hard lined out or a bridge
Jerry

On Fri, Apr 22, 2022, 10:31 AM William Miller via RE-wrenches <
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> Friends:
>
>
>
> I installed a Radian AC coupled system a few months ago.  We are trying to
> dial it in to work with a Blue Planet battery system.
>
>
>
> I cannot make any adjustments remotely through Optics.  Once in a while if
> I reset the gateway I can change one setting, but rarely does it succeed.
> The little wheel turns for a couple of minutes and then I get a failure
> dialog box.
>
>
>
> I was told to power cycle the Mate.  This did not solve the problem.
>
>
>
> Has anyone else experienced this?
>
>
>
> Thanks for any input.
>
>
>
> William
>
>
>
> Miller Solar
>
> 17395 Oak Road, Atascadero, CA 93422
>
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>
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>
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Fronius in the game?

[Dana Orzel via RE-wrenches]

Moving to Idaho I have inherited a valley full of Fronius & SMA The only 
failures have had to replace have been Fronius & I replaced with SMA. All were 
out of warranty according to Fronius.

 

 

 

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P Please consider the environment before printing this email.

 

 

From: RE-wrenches  On Behalf Of 
Glenn Burt via RE-wrenches
Sent: Friday, April 22, 2022 3:06 PM
To: August Goers via RE-wrenches 
Cc: Glenn Burt 
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Fronius in the game?

 

We continue to install Fronius inverters on our ground mounted systems here in 
southern VT and some of eastern NY.

 

-Glenn

Sent from my 'smart'phone, so please excuse typos and spelling errors.

 

-- Original message--

From: August Goers via RE-wrenches 

Date: Fri, Apr 22, 2022 2:41 PM

To: RE-wrenches;

Cc: August Goers;

Subject:[RE-wrenches] Fronius in the game?

 

Hi Wrenches,

 

I recently had a friend install a Fronius Primo inverter in California. When he 
submitted for interconnection, PG said it didn't meet the current smart 
inverter requirements. Here is the response from Fronius tech support:

 

"The Fronius Primo and Symo line are not compliant with Rule 21 Phase 3. With 
the lack of Phase 3 certification, these inverters can't be installed since 
June 22, 2020 in any territory of the big 3 IOUs (PG, SCE, SDGE) or where a 
listing on the CEC Grid Support (‘Smart’) Inverter list is required."

 

Is anyone still using Fronius on this list? Is Fronius pulling out of the US 
market?

 

Best, August


August Goers

Luminalt Energy Corporation

www.luminalt.com  

 

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Re: [RE-wrenches] Fronius in the game?

[Glenn Burt via RE-wrenches]

We continue to install Fronius inverters on our ground mounted systems here in 
southern VT and some of eastern NY.-GlennSent from my 'smart'phone, so please 
excuse typos and spelling errors.-- Original message--From: August 
Goers via RE-wrenches Date: Fri, Apr 22, 2022 2:41 PMTo: RE-wrenches;Cc: August 
Goers;Subject:[RE-wrenches] Fronius in the game?Hi Wrenches,I recently had a 
friend install a Fronius Primo inverter in California. When he submitted for 
interconnection, PG said it didn't meet the current smart inverter 
requirements. Here is the response from Fronius tech support:"The Fronius Primo 
and Symo line are not compliant with Rule 21 Phase 3. With the lack of Phase 3 
certification, these inverters can't be installed since June 22, 2020 in any 
territory of the big 3 IOUs (PG, SCE, SDGE) or where a listing on the CEC 
Grid Support (‘Smart’) Inverter list is required."Is anyone still using Fronius 
on this list? Is Fronius pulling out of the US market?Best,
 AugustAugust GoersLuminalt Energy Corporation

www.luminalt.com

 
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Optics will not accept remote programming

[Maverick Brown via RE-wrenches]

I think if the MATE3S is left in the settings screen, OpticsRE can’t edit 
remotely. Exit the Settings section on the MATE3 (entered with the LOCK button) 
and you should be able to use OpticsRE to make changes. 

Since you might be rolling a truck, bring the latest MATE3S firmware with you, 
especially the newer AC coupling shift software.

The get above 90%, you can force Bulk charge via the inverter charger and that 
will charge to the Bulk voltage helping the batteries get a to 90%. But, the 
next day, the inverter will just be idle unless ReBulk is triggered. The 
inverter will be in passthru and SunnyBoy does the selling. I added AC relays 
between the SunnyBoy and their breaker just in case the battery voltage got too 
high during off grid periods and other Radian charger events.

Good luck and have fun!



Maverick Brown
Off-Grid Solar Commander since 2006
Maverick Solar Enterprises, Inc.
 • Solar Commander Remote Power
 • SunFlow Systems Cathodic Protection 
maver...@mavericksolar.com
512-460-9825

> On Apr 22, 2022, at 3:13 PM, William Miller via RE-wrenches 
>  wrote:
> 
> Friends:
>  
> I installed a Radian AC coupled system a few months ago.  We are trying to 
> dial it in to work with a Blue Planet battery system.  
>  
> I cannot make any adjustments remotely through Optics.  Once in a while if I 
> reset the gateway I can change one setting, but rarely does it succeed.  The 
> little wheel turns for a couple of minutes and then I get a failure dialog 
> box.
>  
> I was told to power cycle the Mate.  This did not solve the problem.
>  
> Has anyone else experienced this?
>  
> Thanks for any input.
>  
> William
>  
> Miller Solar
> 17395 Oak Road, Atascadero, CA 93422
> 805-438-5600
> www.millersolar.com 
> CA Lic. 773985
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[RE-wrenches] Optics will not accept remote programming

[William Miller via RE-wrenches]

Friends:



I installed a Radian AC coupled system a few months ago.  We are trying to
dial it in to work with a Blue Planet battery system.



I cannot make any adjustments remotely through Optics.  Once in a while if
I reset the gateway I can change one setting, but rarely does it succeed.
The little wheel turns for a couple of minutes and then I get a failure
dialog box.



I was told to power cycle the Mate.  This did not solve the problem.



Has anyone else experienced this?



Thanks for any input.



William



Miller Solar

17395 Oak Road, Atascadero, CA 93422

805-438-5600

www.millersolar.com

CA Lic. 773985
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[RE-wrenches] Radian, Blue Planet and SMA 21 series AC coupled

[William Miller via RE-wrenches]

Friends:



We are setting up our first Blue Planet system.  It is AC coupled with an
SMA SB7-21 back-feeding a Radian 8048.We followed all of the
recommended settings when commissioning.



The battery SOC is chronically stuck at 90% as displayed by the Blue Planet
BMU.

I think the problem is the grid sell setting is at 54 VDC.  Blue Planet
likes 55.2.  I’m going to change that setting this afternoon but due to
some mysterious Optics bug, I have to drive to the site to do so.



If anyone has any experience with this kind of setup and can offer any
advice, well I’d be mighty grateful.



Thanks in advance.



William Miller



Miller Solar

17395 Oak Road, Atascadero, CA 93422

805-438-5600

www.millersolar.com

CA Lic. 773985
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Fronius in the game?

[Jason Szumlanski via RE-wrenches]

I don't know the answer to your question specifically, but in Florida we
are light years away from Smart Grid requirements. The latest net metering
law debacle here carries us through the end of the decade. I don't think
smart grid is a battle that anyone is going to fight here anytime soon, so
there are plenty of sales opportunities for non-compliant inverter brands.

What I can tell you is that I am going to diagnose a faulty Fronius IG Plus
right now and customer support is answering the phone reasonably fast and
is offering warranty support after some diagnostics. The brand is not
popular around here, but I'm still seeing them pop up here and there.

Jason



On Fri, Apr 22, 2022, 2:41 PM August Goers via RE-wrenches <
re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote:

> Hi Wrenches,
>
> I recently had a friend install a Fronius Primo inverter in California.
> When he submitted for interconnection, PG said it didn't meet the current
> smart inverter requirements. Here is the response from Fronius tech support:
>
> "The Fronius Primo and Symo line are not compliant with Rule 21 Phase 3.
> With the lack of Phase 3 certification, these inverters can't be installed
> since June 22, 2020 in any territory of the big 3 IOUs (PG, SCE, SDGE) or
> where a listing on the CEC Grid Support (‘Smart’) Inverter list is
> required."
>
> Is anyone still using Fronius on this list? Is Fronius pulling out of the
> US market?
>
> Best, August
>
> *August Goers*
>
> Luminalt Energy Corporation
>
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[RE-wrenches] Fronius in the game?

[August Goers via RE-wrenches]

Hi Wrenches,

I recently had a friend install a Fronius Primo inverter in California.
When he submitted for interconnection, PG said it didn't meet the current
smart inverter requirements. Here is the response from Fronius tech support:

"The Fronius Primo and Symo line are not compliant with Rule 21 Phase 3.
With the lack of Phase 3 certification, these inverters can't be installed
since June 22, 2020 in any territory of the big 3 IOUs (PG, SCE, SDGE) or
where a listing on the CEC Grid Support (‘Smart’) Inverter list is
required."

Is anyone still using Fronius on this list? Is Fronius pulling out of the
US market?

Best, August

*August Goers*

Luminalt Energy Corporation

www.luminalt.com
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