[RE-wrenches] Lithium batteries
Howie, I’ve used a few different brands and am currently using the Discover AES, I have a quad stack of the coupled to an dual stack of XW inverters and they are working great, As for another post comment that these companies are looking to be bought out, Discover is long time battery manufacturer and I feel pretty confident they will be here to honor the warranty. If you search YouTube you can see a video Discover and I did on my wood shop. Jason Andrade West Coast Sustainables > > >> Hi Folks, >> About to spec my first Lithium battery backup job. The client is not a >> heavy user, but wants things done right more than being totally cost >> effective. >> We put in 14kW of net metered solar using SolarEdge and now he wants the >> backup component. This was significantly oversized for his use, but he >> wanted to be sure he was putting a bunch more back into the grid than he >> was using (making up for past profligate power usage). We will be using a >> dual stacked XW 6848, mostly for enough backfeed capacity (we could wire >> in >> a transfer switch and only use 1 XW, but he'd prefer this setup instead). >> I have narrowed down my choice for batteries to either: >> >> - (2) Iron Edison 200 amp hour batteries, or >> - (3) Discover AES 130 amp hour batteries >> >> Advantages for the AES are that they integrate directly with the Schneider >> Xanbus network so the Conext battery monitor provides direct insight into >> the SOC and SOH of the batteries, and they have a slightly higher rated >> cycle life so higher lifetime energy capacity. >> >> Advantages of the IronEdison are they come in a larger amp hour size >> allowing for only needing 2 vs. 3 batteries, they have an integrated fuse >> and disconnect, and from my sources are 1/3 less in price. >> >> If anyone has any thoughts on any of this, or corrections to my >> comparison, >> I'd greatly appreciate it. ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] Aquion Batteries
As for the Simpliphi I have them in a few projects one being Governor Browns offgrid home and my own off-grid residence is powered using them. I recently re-engineered the Outback IBR3 for the phi 3.5 and made an advanced version for my own. I purchased a flexnet battery monitor and used all three channels for the IBR I have a spare Flexmax80 that powers a hub 4 and a second mate 3. You are able to aggregate this data into optics and overlay the two. I’ll admit I haven’t had a lot of time to tweak with it but I think you can see it as an optics preview through outback. I agree data on the Lifpo4 is critical and my understanding is Simpliphi will be releasing a version soon that has comms. I also have a Discover AES bank on my off grid woodshop consisting of 4 of the 6.5 coupled with three of the older xantrex xw inverters this is a great platform so far and you can see the battery as a device on the scp, you can also direct connect using a usb to usb cable to the battery and upload firmware and see the battery specifics Jason Andrade West Coast Sustainables Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 23, 2019, at 2:21 PM, re-wrenches-requ...@lists.re-wrenches.org wrote: > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2019 16:08:55 -0600 > From: Darryl Thayer > To: offgridso...@sti.net, newrewrenches > > Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Aquion Batteries > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I have used Simphiphy. Had a problem over time nearly 2 years the cells > were what appears to be out of balance. I think i balanced them by setting > the charge voltage higher than recomended. I think the factory has it wrong > > On Wed, Jan 23, 2019, 1:39 PM Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar < > offgridso...@sti.net wrote: > >> Simplyphi does not have a built in method for Soc. The BMS works well but >> the install requires an energy monitor with a shunt. Too much work for me >> and my clients. Their batteries are too small at 3.5 kwh or so. If they >> changed the size up, and got Soc out to OUtback or Schneider I would use >> them. >> >> Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar >> "we go where powerlines don't" >> http://members.sti.net/offgridsolar/ >> e-mail offgridso...@sti.net >> text 209 813 0060 >> >>> Awhile back, it was mentioned that missmatched cell voltages could be >>> corrected with a 6 volt charger attached to each low layer. I tried this >>> on one and it worked. I have several stacks that have mostly even >>> voltages >>> with one cell over charged. Often 8 to 25 volts. Some showed the high >>> voltage layer when under charge but looked normal when static. Others >> had >>> the high voltage even when static. Are these layers just totally >>> defective >>> or could the voltage be bled off somehow down to the average. Has anyone >>> tried this. I have three customers with Aquions that are working well >>> and >>> staying balanced. This customer has 24 batteries and 13 show this >>> problem. >>> Capacity of the bank is very poor. Customer is ready to call lawyer! >> Any >>> ideas? >>> Tump, yes these include the batteries from Maine but also half of his >>> original 12 are showing the same problem. >>> >>> John Blittersdorf. >>> CV Wind Service (and Solar) >>> 200 West Road >>> N Chittenden, VT 05763 >>> 802-770-8625 Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 24, 2019, at 2:04 PM, re-wrenches-requ...@lists.re-wrenches.org wrote: > > Re: Aquion Batteries ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] Ibew is working to exclude C-46 contractor?s from installing Batteries.
Ultimately I think handing off ESS just to the C-10 is unjust and if its a real concern they should make it a separate classification, I have a C46 and the ESS project that I just completed for Governor Brown’s off grid ranch was what I feel is top notch work that shows a C46 can hang with the C10 :) West Coast Sustainables Jason Andrade 530-410-4745 From: RE-wrenches mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org>> On Behalf Of e...@harvesthesun.com <mailto:e...@harvesthesun.com> Sent: Friday, March 23, 2018 10:40 PM To: RE-wrenches mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org>> Subject: [RE-wrenches] Ibew is working to exclude C-46 contractor?s from installing Batteries. As a C46 since 2011 I'll contend that though the license may have its origins in thermal, according to the CSLB the designation is for both thermal and PV, and that is reflected in the licensure exam (to be licensed as a C46 one must be familiar with PV). What one does in their profession, whether ST or PV or both, after passing the exam and becoming licensed, is up to the contractor. I for one have done little ST over the past 7 years, and as a result of my PV work, have more battery experience than my C10 peers - speaking only for the C10s with whom I work and those I know. If the CSLB decides that batteries are the domain of C10 contractors and not solar electrical contractors, which would be erroneous IMHO - being not reflective of the reality of many C46 contractors today, some whom have been in BBU as long as BBU has been in solar, then I imagine the C46 holders that do BBU work will seek to add the C10 license, as would I. Until then, I will join CalSSA in advocating for the s tatus quo. Thanks for sharing, Jason. Peter, you can reach me through Byers Solar, we're a CalSSA member and C46 contractor (under my license).___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
[RE-wrenches] Ibew is working to exclude C-46 contractor’s from installing Batteries.
Hi at this point I believe this is a California only issue, but I was contacted by CalSeia today and was asked to be involved in a discussion regarding a move where only a C-10 contractor can install a battery based system This was news to me but they sent me a pdf outlining the issue and I will read it over this weekend has anyone else heard about this? My instant response is what special training does the c10 have that the c46 doesn’t ? Jason Andrade West Coast Sustainables Sent from my iPhone ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] Grundfos SQflex
I have this same situation with my off grid well, I have a grundfos sqf5-2 and the yield wound up being .25 gpm. Originally I ran it on 2- Astronergy 235 and made a timing system using a sprinkler timer and a midnite kid controller it was tough to control the production as the power varied and was limited to daylight hours. I ran ac power to the control box and now use a simple AC wall (pump draw is 400 watts) timer that up to seven daily cycles and control the pump times calculated on the recapture rate of the well which varies with the water table. I also use inline water gauges to help determine the amount of water I can pump per cycle because the amount drops so much in the summer. I went with the controlled time method over restriction as it was going to have to be extreme in my situation, there is a product out there I read about the dole valve that can regulate the production to 1GPM http://www.pumpsandwells.com/mm5/PDFs/Dole%20Valves.pdf without messing with the power directly. Jason Andrade C-46# 974647 (530) 410-4745 Cell Please follow the links below for great content! > On Jun 30, 2016, at 7:43 PM, jay wrote: > > Hi All, > > Any trick methods to keep a SQflex running on AC power at a given flow rate that is less than full power? > > I?ve got a well that is just on 1 gpm, around 150? lift. > > the sqflex 3-2 will do it, but at 3gpm with full watts, an amazing 265 watts. > > > thx > > jay > > peltz power ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
[RE-wrenches] New Pge TOU rates
Hi Wrenches,
I am looking at the new rates for PG&E's time of use and was wondering what
others in California are using Tou-A or Tou-B? it looks like if you have a
West facing array Tou-B is going to be the better choice if you can control
your usages.
http://www.pge.com/nots/rates/tariffs/ResTOUCurrent.xls
Thanks for any input
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Re: [RE-wrenches] RE-wrenches Digest, Vol 9, Issue 170
I have had Powerfab build custom enclosures for me in the past but I really like the HDPE enclosures from radiantsolartech.com they are safe and constructed well. I prefer stacked battery racks myself and am building a custom one now for my personal off grid system, https://www.facebook.com/113295778708585/photos/pcb.1045462858825201/1045461 465492007/?type=3 This will be a completely enclosed and vented cabinet with HDPE trays for acid containment. My question is has the inspector mentioned grounding it and what size EGC will you be using? Jason Andrade C-46# 974647 (530) 410-4745 Cell Please follow the links below for great content! >> On May 31, 2016, at 11:40 AM, Dave Tedeyan wrote: >> >> Hi All, >> >> We have a local inspector who is asking us to use metal battery boxes instead of plastic. >> >> Ideally something that is UL-listed if that even exists, but we were able to push back on that. >> >> Does anyone have any recommendations for a metal battery box that will hold 8 or 16 L16 FLA batteries? >> >> Thanks, >> Dave >> >> -- >> >> Dave Tedeyan >> Project Engineer >> >> Taitem Engineering, PC >> 109 S. Albany Street, Ithaca, NY 14850 >> Voice: (607) 277-1118 x121 >> www.taitem.com ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
[RE-wrenches] Subject: Re: to flash or not to flash
I wouldn't install a comp roof system without the flashings myself, I am in Northern California and the extreme weather both heat and cold are murder on roofing. Jason West Coast Sustainables Jason Andrade C-46# 974647 (530) 410-4745 Cell (530) 241-7498 Office (530) 348-5301 Fax ja...@westcoastsustainables.com -Original Message- From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of re-wrenches-requ...@lists.re-wrenches.org Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 6:42 PM To: re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Subject: RE-wrenches Digest, Vol 8, Issue 294 Send RE-wrenches mailing list submissions to re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.re-wrenches.org/listinfo.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to re-wrenches-requ...@lists.re-wrenches.org You can reach the person managing the list at re-wrenches-ow...@lists.re-wrenches.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of RE-wrenches digest..." When responding to posts within the Digest, be sure to restore the Subject: line to the original, and please edit out any extraneous lines from the quoted message. Today's Topics: 1. Re: to flash or not to flash (Daniel Young) 2. Re: Schneider XW battery monitor (jarmo.venalai...@schneider-electric.com) 3. Re: clear sealant recommendations (James Rudolph) 4. Re: to flash or not to flash (frenergy) -- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2015 17:19:30 -0400 From: "Daniel Young" To: "'RE-wrenches'" Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] to flash or not to flash Message-ID: <013601d0df7b$bb6b3080$32419180$@com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Figured I would dig through the responses to this list topic since I posted it as a poll, of sorts. My final count was: 10 votes to flash, 4 votes not to flash. Those who read all the responses probably know there are a few on either side that would be OK with the other option. I?m still on the flashing side of things, though I might consider letting the client have a choice. If I explain the differences, and show them the $ difference, they can help make the decision (read that as? ?take some liability off of me J?). We do that now with US vs non-us made solar modules. It?s not the same type of comparison here, but at least if the client really wants a lower cost, they know how they?re getting it, and future calls from the client should get tempered by the knowledge that they chose the attachment method. Some really good points were raised on this topic, thanks to everyone who participated. With Regards, Daniel Young, NABCEP Certified PV Installation ProfessionalTM: Cert #031508-90 From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Jason Szumlanski Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 5:42 AM To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] to flash or not to flash Although my mind is kinda' made up, this thread has really got me thinking and researching. I scoured the NRCA manual, which does not really define "penetration," but it does say in the shingle manual: "Penetration Flashings: There are many small penetrations that need to be flashed into asphalt shingle roof systems, such as vent pipes, exhaust vents, exhaust fans, furnace or water heater flue pipes, electrical standpipes and others." There is also a graphical figure showing these various penetrations. The one thing these all have in common is that there is a substantial air gap cut fully through the roof plane. It occurred to me that ridge caps and vents on shingle roofs use exposed fasteners to nail or screw them to the decking. The NRCA manual says about this: "Exposed fasteners should be sealed with elastomeric sealant or asphalt roof cement on the last ridge piece of a run, at the intersection of hips to a ridge and at the intersection of a ridge to another plane." Also read the Snow Guard section for metal roofs, which allows attachments sealed to the flat part of the roof pan with sealants. Until the manual specifically addressed the solar "attachments" and "fasteners" we are debating about, it's open to interpretation. ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
[RE-wrenches] Grundfos crflex
I see grundfos has the new crflex surface pump out, has anyone installed this that can review it. I recently started using the Dankoff Surface pumps and they are awesome but I need one that can pump off generator or pv and I have had good experiences with the grundfos seflex in the past Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone Original message From: re-wrenches-requ...@lists.re-wrenches.org Date:04/12/2015 10:15 AM (GMT-08:00) To: re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Subject: RE-wrenches Digest, Vol 8, Issue 103 ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] 208 3 phase Off Grid Inverter
By using the Magic stacking on the Outback I thought you could parallel more than one inverter per phase in three phase mode, I have heard of reactivity issues with this while attached to 3 phase condenser units I would suggest contacting tech on this. This would be a though call for me I would probably go with the Sunny Islands AC coupled myself I have some great systems out there using the SI equipment. Jason Hi All; I'm exploring options for an off grid project with an existing 30 Kw Kohler wired for 208 vac 3 phase. The generator runs some 8 hp air compressors, so rewiring it is not an option. We're primarily interested in reducing gen run time from the current situation: 14 hrs/ day. So far, only the Outback VFX inverters seem capable of being wired in 208, 3 phase, but according to the manual they can only be stacked 1 inverter per leg. This limits the system to only 3 inverters total, or 10.8 kW. I would like expandability beyond this. 1) are there any other inverters available that I'm over looking? 2) Should I consider a transformer to convert from 208 vac/3phase to 240 vac/ singe phase? We're not going to even try to run the compressors, just the other single phase loads, mostly 120 vac, but we have a couple of small air conditioners, that are currently running on 208 single phase. I believe they would run fine on 240 vac, as they have a name plate rating at 230 vac. 3) We may possibly run 2 separate 3 inverter stacks and only tie together at the battery, but otherwise they would not be connected. This seems inefficient, and would require some load balancing of the various inverters. All help and discussion is greatly appreciated as always, -- R.Ray Walters CTO, Solarray, Inc Nabcep Certified PV Installer, Licensed Master Electrician Solar Design Engineer 303 505-8760 West Coast Sustainables Jason Andrade C-46# 974647 (530) 410-4745 Cell (530) 241-7498 Office (530) 348-5301 Fax ja...@westcoastsustainables.com -Original Message- From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of re-wrenches-requ...@lists.re-wrenches.org Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 10:52 AM To: re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Subject: RE-wrenches Digest, Vol 7, Issue 120 Send RE-wrenches mailing list submissions to re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.re-wrenches.org/listinfo.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to re-wrenches-requ...@lists.re-wrenches.org You can reach the person managing the list at re-wrenches-ow...@lists.re-wrenches.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of RE-wrenches digest..." When responding to posts within the Digest, be sure to restore the Subject: line to the original, and please edit out any extraneous lines from the quoted message. Today's Topics: 1. 208 3 phase Off Grid Inverter (Ray Walters) 2. Re: 208 3 phase Off Grid Inverter (William Miller) 3. Re: 208 3 phase Off Grid Inverter (Ray Walters) 4. Re: 208 3 phase Off Grid Inverter (will...@millersolar.com) 5. Re: 208 3 phase Off Grid Inverter (Michael Morningstar) 6. Re: 208 3 phase Off Grid Inverter (Brian Mehalic) 7. Re: 208 3 phase Off Grid Inverter (Steve Jefferson) 8. Re: 208 3 phase Off Grid Inverter (Ray Walters) -- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 20:44:14 -0600 From: Ray Walters To: RE-wrenches Subject: [RE-wrenches] 208 3 phase Off Grid Inverter Message-ID: <5330ed7e.2080...@solarray.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Hi All; I'm exploring options for an off grid project with an existing 30 Kw Kohler wired for 208 vac 3 phase. The generator runs some 8 hp air compressors, so rewiring it is not an option. We're primarily interested in reducing gen run time from the current situation: 14 hrs/ day. So far, only the Outback VFX inverters seem capable of being wired in 208, 3 phase, but according to the manual they can only be stacked 1 inverter per leg. This limits the system to only 3 inverters total, or 10.8 kW. I would like expandability beyond this. 1) are there any other inverters available that I'm over looking? 2) Should I consider a transformer to convert from 208 vac/3phase to 240 vac/ singe phase? We're not going to even try to run the compressors, just the other single phase loads, mostly 120 vac, but we have a couple of small air conditioners, that are currently running on 208 single phase. I believe they would run fine on 240 vac, as they have a name plate rating at 230 vac. 3) We may possibly run 2 separate 3 inverter stacks and only tie together at the battery, but otherwise they would not be connected. This seems inefficien
Re: [RE-wrenches] RE-wrenches Digest, Vol 7, Issue 83 Controllers
Ron, The one I have is a beta to play with, I think they are scheduled to release very soon. I put together some quick connects this weekend and am waiting for the rain so I can hook it up to a hydro next. Woo hoo Jason The Midnite Kid looks like the ticket but didn't realize it was shipping yet. I like the Classics so if the Kid is a chip off the old block then I'll go with it for sure. Ron On 2014-02-21, at 1:41 PM, Jason Andrade wrote: > I recieved a Kid controller and the Whizbang Jr a couple off weeks ago > and so far it is a nice little unit, I haven't put it under any big > charging yet > > but I am a Midnite user and it is what you would expect from Midnite. > I am going to try the Whizbanger on the classic as it is what charges > the batteries for my house this weekend. > > Jason > > West Coast Sustainables > Jason Andrade > C-46# 974647 > (530) 410-4745 Cell > (530) 241-7498 Office > (530) 348-5301 Fax > ja...@westcoastsustainables.com ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
[RE-wrenches] controllers
I recieved a Kid controller and the Whizbang Jr a couple off weeks ago and so far it is a nice little unit, I haven't put it under any big charging yet but I am a Midnite user and it is what you would expect from Midnite. I am going to try the Whizbanger on the classic as it is what charges the batteries for my house this weekend. Jason West Coast Sustainables Jason Andrade C-46# 974647 (530) 410-4745 Cell (530) 241-7498 Office (530) 348-5301 Fax ja...@westcoastsustainables.com -Original Message- From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of re-wrenches-requ...@lists.re-wrenches.org Sent: Friday, February 21, 2014 10:45 AM To: re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Subject: RE-wrenches Digest, Vol 7, Issue 81 Send RE-wrenches mailing list submissions to re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.re-wrenches.org/listinfo.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to re-wrenches-requ...@lists.re-wrenches.org You can reach the person managing the list at re-wrenches-ow...@lists.re-wrenches.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of RE-wrenches digest..." When responding to posts within the Digest, be sure to restore the Subject: line to the original, and please edit out any extraneous lines from the quoted message. To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] controllers Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Have you looked at the new controller from Midnite, the KID, 30 amp. jay On Feb 20, 2014, at 3:49 PM, RM You wrote: > Anybody have any recommendations for a 45a MPPT controller other than Morningstar? I?ve had absolutely miserable tech support from Morningstar so I want to drop the line but I need something that will handle 2 60 cell modules in the 250w range for off grid applications. I use a Blue Sky for single panels and a Midnite Classic for three or more but in the middle the only one I can see is the Morningstar. Outback, Midnite and Xantrex are all overkill for just a couple of panels unless they want to expand in the future. ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
[RE-wrenches] Looking for some help in Coronado, CA
Wrencehes, I have a grid tie install to do in the San Diego area and am looking for some assistance or some one that will rent me a panel hoist. Also does anyone know of a good solar hot water company to do an install in that area. Thanks Jason West Coast Sustainables Jason Andrade C-46# 974647 (530) 410-4745 Cell (530) 241-7498 Office (530) 348-5301 Fax ja...@westcoastsustainables.com -Original Message- From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of re-wrenches-requ...@lists.re-wrenches.org Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 7:01 PM To: re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Subject: RE-wrenches Digest, Vol 7, Issue 77 Send RE-wrenches mailing list submissions to re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.re-wrenches.org/listinfo.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to re-wrenches-requ...@lists.re-wrenches.org You can reach the person managing the list at re-wrenches-ow...@lists.re-wrenches.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of RE-wrenches digest..." When responding to posts within the Digest, be sure to restore the Subject: line to the original, and please edit out any extraneous lines from the quoted message. Today's Topics: 1. Bergey Excel 1 wind generator issues (Chris Daum) 2. Re: Bergey Excel 1 wind generator issues (Ray Walters) 3. Re: Trojan IND9-6V settings with Outback FX and Flexmax 60 (Larry Crutcher, Starlight Solar Power Systems) 4. Re: Bergey Excel 1 wind generator issues (All Solar, Inc.) 5. Re: California State Fire Marshal's "Solar Photovoltaic Installation Guidelines" (Jerry Shafer) -- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 13:39:28 -0700 From: "Chris Daum" To: "'RE-wrenches'" Subject: [RE-wrenches] Bergey Excel 1 wind generator issues Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hello Wrenches: We have a customer who's got one of the Excel One wind gennies, and he's burnt up two Classic controllers (overvoltagethe 2nd time it got over 400V before it burnt up). Bergey's been dragging their feet as to why this is happening; they're saying it's probably an "upslope site" where the RPM just gets too high, among other things. Metering tests prove that the stator is OK. They also said that Midnite Solar has a 'clipper' to prevent overvoltage; do any of you have any experience with this device? It's ~$1200, and of course there is no mention of this on Bergey's web site or in their XL.1 manual. I have several other XL.1s in the general area, but they are on their old 24V controller. So I am looking for more information on anyone who's using this 'clipper'. Please feel free to contact me off list. Thanks! Chris Daum Oasis Montana Inc. 406-777-4309 -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org/attachme nts/20140219/524e4e91/attachment-0001.htm> -- Message: 2 Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 14:27:53 -0700 From: Ray Walters To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Bergey Excel 1 wind generator issues Message-ID: <530521d9.50...@solarray.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; Format="flowed" We've done some research on this, as we're doing an XL.1 project at 12 v right now. I don't have first hand experience with the Clipper yet, but I have over a decade of XL.1 experience and many years with Midnite's electronics. The Clipper is exactly what is needed. It also moves the rectifier down to the ground, and offers a braking disconnect system to shut the turbine down completely if needed. The Classic by itself isn't really controlling the turbine speed, and counting on the XL,1 mechanical governing design by itself is definitely full hardy. Unfortunately, Bergey's new staff is not really up to full speed yet on what is needed to make their turbines work long term. At least they've abandoned the old XL.1 controller. Hopefully the turbine itself hasn't changed too much; I've seen them survive some very high speed winds and direct lightning strikes. R.Ray Walters CTO, Solarray, Inc Nabcep Certified PV Installer, Licensed Master Electrician Solar Design Engineer 303 505-8760 On 2/19/2014 1:39 PM, Chris Daum wrote: > Hello Wrenches: > We have a customer who's got one of the Excel One wind gennies, and > he's burnt up two Classic controllers (overvoltagethe 2nd time it > got over 400V be
[RE-wrenches] AC Backfeed from Radian.
If you can get the serial number off the generator for me I can access kohler and get some info as a kohler dealer. The new ones are having controller issues and there is an updated controller. When meeting with the generator tech ask them if they transferred the setting from the previous controller with site tech. One last silly question, your not feeding 12vdc to wires 3&4 for the start signal, Jason Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 16, 2014, at 8:52 PM, re-wrenches-requ...@lists.re-wrenches.org wrote: > > [RE-wrenches] AC Backfeed from Radian. ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
[RE-wrenches] Ungrounded P.V.
Wrenches, I have yet to do a Transformer-less inverter and am understanding that they are an ungrounded system and that both the positive and negative of each string will need to be disconnected. I started with the sma SB series and now find myself using mainly Enphase. The SMA TL dual mppt lighter weight inverter has my attention, especially with AB327 Knocking on the door but that's another topic. Jason West Coast Sustainables Jason Andrade C-46# 974647 (530) 410-4745 Cell (530) 241-7498 Office (530) 348-5301 Fax ja...@westcoastsustainables.com ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
[RE-wrenches] Subject: Re: Best Ground Racking?
Racking: I used Prosolar for a long time and then switched to Iron ridge, I am pretty happy with it in all areas but the rails are pricy. Things I like -It has minimal deflection when tightening, but you have to tighten the Ubolts evenly. -The new mid clamps have teeth that penetrate both the module and the racking so you do not need weebs for module grounding. -End caps for sealing the rails are cheap. -It has slots like uni-rack that allows for a decent amount of adjustment. -As for wire management, there are two types of stainless rail clips for managing enphase size cable or attaching up to four pv wires on parallel rail runs. -When using central inverters I run all of my inverter to module cables in emt-heyco stain reliefs to MC connectors this turns out extremely tidy -For the grounding I use a weeb grounding lug that sits in the top rail with a 7/16 stainless bolt that allows for a strong connection. Things that do make it tedious there are a lot of stainless bolts, I use pentrox as a anti galling compound, what do other people use? when installing a micro inverter system you have to get all of your inverter mounting bolts in place before installing the cabling, they have to be end loaded, I would prefer and bolt similar to the mids that twists and locks in. If you would like a few pictures I can send them to you or you can see them on our facebook page West Coast Sustainables Jason West Coast Sustainables Jason Andrade C-46# 974647 (530) 410-4745 Cell (530) 241-7498 Office ja...@westcoastsustainables.com Watch This! -Original Message- From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of re-wrenches-requ...@lists.re-wrenches.org Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2014 8:55 PM To: re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Subject: RE-wrenches Digest, Vol 7, Issue 43 Send RE-wrenches mailing list submissions to re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.re-wrenches.org/listinfo.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to re-wrenches-requ...@lists.re-wrenches.org You can reach the person managing the list at re-wrenches-ow...@lists.re-wrenches.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of RE-wrenches digest..." When responding to posts within the Digest, be sure to restore the Subject: line to the original, and please edit out any extraneous lines from the quoted message. Today's Topics: 1. Re: Best Ground Racking? (Aaron Mandelkorn) 2. Re: Best Ground Racking? (will...@millersolar.com) 3. Re: Best Ground Racking? (Kelly Larson) -- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2014 17:28:42 -0700 From: Aaron Mandelkorn To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Best Ground Racking? Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Connection through concrete and soon tubes. The horizontal main support tube (4 x 4 square tube) makes wire management easy. It can easily hold wire gutters, j boxes and conduit runs. Typically I will run the home runs in free air and into a wire gutter mounted on the 4x4 horizontal tube. Then conduit down to the bos equipment mounted on a vertical support pole. Aaron Aaron Mandelkorn Owner/Solar Specialist Renewable Energy Outfitters 719-221-5249 970-596-3744 www.reosolar.com reoso...@gmail.com > On Feb 4, 2014, at 4:45 PM, Kelly Larson wrote: > > Thanks, Aaron. How are you handling wire management and connection to the ground? > > Blessings, > Kelly > >> On Feb 4, 2014, at 2:41 PM, Aaron Mandelkorn wrote: >> >> I like SnapNrack 200 Series as well as DPW Solar Multi Pole Mount. >> >> Aaron Mandelkorn >> Owner / Solar Specialist >> Renewable Energy Outfitters >> Box 65 Salida CO. 81201 >> 719-221-5249 >> 970-596-3744 >> reoso...@gmail.com >> www.reosolar.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> On Feb 4, 2014, at 3:28 PM, Kelly Larson wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> We are looking to install some 4KW ground mounted arrays. What racking are you using? Best ground connection? Wire management? The shows have so many choices, and I keep doing the same ol thing... >>> >>> Blessings, >>> Kelly >>> >>> Kelly Larson >>> Electrical Engineer >>> NABCEP Certified Solar PV Installation Professional >>> IREC Certified Master Trainer >>> CA Electrical Contractor# 868189 >>> SolarKelly.com >>> >>> ___
