Re: [RE-wrenches] Enphase Enpower Smart Switch as service disconnect

[Jason Szumlanski]

Thanks, Nick. That's the information I was looking for. For others
interested in doing this I found the instructions here:

https://support.enphase.com/s/article/Manual-override-mode-for-Enphase-Storage

Jason



On Mon, Sep 13, 2021, 10:07 PM Nick Soleil 
wrote:

> Hey Jason,
>
> Yes, you can install the Enpower prior to the storage system.  You will
> just need to leave the Enpower in Manual Bypass mode.
>
> Cordially,
>
> Nick Soleil
>
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>
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>
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>
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> Yeah, I know it's service rated here, but I wanted to make sure it would
> work functionally. I guess it's no different than a service rated generator
> ATS in that you can install the ATS without the generator and just have it
> there for future use.
>
> Thanks all for the feedback.
>
> Jason Szumlanski
>
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 10, 2021, 2:01 PM Eric Smiley  wrote:
>
> The spec sheet indicates it is rated as Service Equipment in the US but
> not in Canada. :-(
>
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> On Fri, 10 Sept 2021 at 10:51, Jason Szumlanski <
> ja...@floridasolardesigngroup.com> wrote:
>
> Yes, I plan to install both a main breaker and a load breaker because both
> will be necessary in my ultimate design. I don't plan on installing an
> Envoy at this time. So I can't do any of the commissioning tasks.
>
> I will let you know how it goes.
>
> On Fri, Sep 10, 2021, 12:50 PM Rebekah Hren 
> wrote:
>
> I don't see why not, I have one I'm experimenting with in my garage now
> and it passes power through the bus prior to commissioning. I would make
> sure to add the Eaton BR main breaker in the Enpower at whatever amperage
> required for a more trustworthy discontent than the relay manual switch. It
> doesn't come with any breakers.
>
> You could also commission it as a single device, perhaps? The app lets you
> add devices later.
> Let us know if you try it!
> Rebekah
>
> On Fri, Sep 10, 2021, 7:57 AM Jason Szumlanski <
> ja...@floridasolardesigngroup.com> wrote:
>
> Does anyone know if you can use the Smart Switch as a simple service
> disconnect if not installing solar and batteries now and have it work out
> of the box without any commissioning?
>
> I have a client building a new house and they are going to add solar and
> batteries after the certificate of occupancy is issued. I want to get the
> Smart switch installed as a service disconnect so I don't have to pull the
> meter later. I assume I can trust use the load side lugs to feed the main
> distribution panel in the home.
>
> Jason Szumlanski
> Florida Solar Design Group
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Enphase Enpower Smart Switch as service disconnect

[Nick Soleil]

Hey Jason,

Yes, you can install the Enpower prior to the storage system.  You will just 
need to leave the Enpower in Manual Bypass mode.


Cordially,

Nick Soleil

Enphase Energy Senior Product Manager

(707) 763-4784 x7267  // office

(707) 321-2937  // cell

Powering What’s Next™ | The Enphase Energy Management 
System<https://enphase.com/en-us/products-and-services/envoy>

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California C10 Licensed Electrician #986315


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Yeah, I know it's service rated here, but I wanted to make sure it would work 
functionally. I guess it's no different than a service rated generator ATS in 
that you can install the ATS without the generator and just have it there for 
future use.

Thanks all for the feedback.

Jason Szumlanski



On Fri, Sep 10, 2021, 2:01 PM Eric Smiley 
mailto:e...@vecoop.ca>> wrote:
The spec sheet indicates it is rated as Service Equipment in the US but not in 
Canada. :-(

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On Fri, 10 Sept 2021 at 10:51, Jason Szumlanski 
mailto:ja...@floridasolardesigngroup.com>> 
wrote:
Yes, I plan to install both a main breaker and a load breaker because both will 
be necessary in my ultimate design. I don't plan on installing an Envoy at this 
time. So I can't do any of the commissioning tasks.

I will let you know how it goes.

On Fri, Sep 10, 2021, 12:50 PM Rebekah Hren 
mailto:rebekah.h...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I don't see why not, I have one I'm experimenting with in my garage now and it 
passes power through the bus prior to commissioning. I would make sure to add 
the Eaton BR main breaker in the Enpower at whatever amperage required for a 
more trustworthy discontent than the relay manual switch. It doesn't come with 
any breakers.

You could also commission it as a single device, perhaps? The app lets you add 
devices later.
Let us know if you try it!
Rebekah

On Fri, Sep 10, 2021, 7:57 AM Jason Szumlanski 
mailto:ja...@floridasolardesigngroup.com>> 
wrote:
Does anyone know if you can use the Smart Switch as a simple service disconnect 
if not installing solar and batteries now and have it work out of the box 
without any commissioning?

I have a client building a new house and they are going to add solar and 
batteries after the certificate of occupancy is issued. I want to get the Smart 
switch installed as a service disconnect so I don't have to pull the meter 
later. I assume I can trust use the load side lugs to feed the main 
distribution panel in the home.

Jason Szumlanski
Florida Solar Design Group
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Enphase Enpower Smart Switch as service disconnect

[Jason Szumlanski]

Yeah, I know it's service rated here, but I wanted to make sure it would
work functionally. I guess it's no different than a service rated generator
ATS in that you can install the ATS without the generator and just have it
there for future use.

Thanks all for the feedback.

Jason Szumlanski



On Fri, Sep 10, 2021, 2:01 PM Eric Smiley  wrote:

> The spec sheet indicates it is rated as Service Equipment in the US but
> not in Canada. :-(
>
>
> *Eric Smiley,* Project Manager
> e...@vecoop.ca
> T: 250.703.6004 <+12507036004>
> T: 888.386.0116 <+18883860116>
> *VIRIDIANENERGY.CA *
>
> * *
>
>
> On Fri, 10 Sept 2021 at 10:51, Jason Szumlanski <
> ja...@floridasolardesigngroup.com> wrote:
>
>> Yes, I plan to install both a main breaker and a load breaker because
>> both will be necessary in my ultimate design. I don't plan on installing an
>> Envoy at this time. So I can't do any of the commissioning tasks.
>>
>> I will let you know how it goes.
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 10, 2021, 12:50 PM Rebekah Hren 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I don't see why not, I have one I'm experimenting with in my garage now
>>> and it passes power through the bus prior to commissioning. I would make
>>> sure to add the Eaton BR main breaker in the Enpower at whatever amperage
>>> required for a more trustworthy discontent than the relay manual switch. It
>>> doesn't come with any breakers.
>>>
>>> You could also commission it as a single device, perhaps? The app lets
>>> you add devices later.
>>> Let us know if you try it!
>>> Rebekah
>>>
>>> On Fri, Sep 10, 2021, 7:57 AM Jason Szumlanski <
>>> ja...@floridasolardesigngroup.com> wrote:
>>>
 Does anyone know if you can use the Smart Switch as a simple service
 disconnect if not installing solar and batteries now and have it work out
 of the box without any commissioning?

 I have a client building a new house and they are going to add solar
 and batteries after the certificate of occupancy is issued. I want to get
 the Smart switch installed as a service disconnect so I don't have to pull
 the meter later. I assume I can trust use the load side lugs to feed the
 main distribution panel in the home.

 Jason Szumlanski
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Enphase Enpower Smart Switch as service disconnect

[Eric Smiley]

The spec sheet indicates it is rated as Service Equipment in the US but not
in Canada. :-(


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On Fri, 10 Sept 2021 at 10:51, Jason Szumlanski <
ja...@floridasolardesigngroup.com> wrote:

> Yes, I plan to install both a main breaker and a load breaker because both
> will be necessary in my ultimate design. I don't plan on installing an
> Envoy at this time. So I can't do any of the commissioning tasks.
>
> I will let you know how it goes.
>
> On Fri, Sep 10, 2021, 12:50 PM Rebekah Hren 
> wrote:
>
>> I don't see why not, I have one I'm experimenting with in my garage now
>> and it passes power through the bus prior to commissioning. I would make
>> sure to add the Eaton BR main breaker in the Enpower at whatever amperage
>> required for a more trustworthy discontent than the relay manual switch. It
>> doesn't come with any breakers.
>>
>> You could also commission it as a single device, perhaps? The app lets
>> you add devices later.
>> Let us know if you try it!
>> Rebekah
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 10, 2021, 7:57 AM Jason Szumlanski <
>> ja...@floridasolardesigngroup.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Does anyone know if you can use the Smart Switch as a simple service
>>> disconnect if not installing solar and batteries now and have it work out
>>> of the box without any commissioning?
>>>
>>> I have a client building a new house and they are going to add solar and
>>> batteries after the certificate of occupancy is issued. I want to get the
>>> Smart switch installed as a service disconnect so I don't have to pull the
>>> meter later. I assume I can trust use the load side lugs to feed the main
>>> distribution panel in the home.
>>>
>>> Jason Szumlanski
>>> Florida Solar Design Group
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Enphase Enpower Smart Switch as service disconnect

[Jason Szumlanski]

Yes, I plan to install both a main breaker and a load breaker because both
will be necessary in my ultimate design. I don't plan on installing an
Envoy at this time. So I can't do any of the commissioning tasks.

I will let you know how it goes.

On Fri, Sep 10, 2021, 12:50 PM Rebekah Hren  wrote:

> I don't see why not, I have one I'm experimenting with in my garage now
> and it passes power through the bus prior to commissioning. I would make
> sure to add the Eaton BR main breaker in the Enpower at whatever amperage
> required for a more trustworthy discontent than the relay manual switch. It
> doesn't come with any breakers.
>
> You could also commission it as a single device, perhaps? The app lets you
> add devices later.
> Let us know if you try it!
> Rebekah
>
> On Fri, Sep 10, 2021, 7:57 AM Jason Szumlanski <
> ja...@floridasolardesigngroup.com> wrote:
>
>> Does anyone know if you can use the Smart Switch as a simple service
>> disconnect if not installing solar and batteries now and have it work out
>> of the box without any commissioning?
>>
>> I have a client building a new house and they are going to add solar and
>> batteries after the certificate of occupancy is issued. I want to get the
>> Smart switch installed as a service disconnect so I don't have to pull the
>> meter later. I assume I can trust use the load side lugs to feed the main
>> distribution panel in the home.
>>
>> Jason Szumlanski
>> Florida Solar Design Group
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Enphase Enpower Smart Switch as service disconnect

[Rebekah Hren]

I don't see why not, I have one I'm experimenting with in my garage now and
it passes power through the bus prior to commissioning. I would make sure
to add the Eaton BR main breaker in the Enpower at whatever amperage
required for a more trustworthy discontent than the relay manual switch. It
doesn't come with any breakers.

You could also commission it as a single device, perhaps? The app lets you
add devices later.
Let us know if you try it!
Rebekah

On Fri, Sep 10, 2021, 7:57 AM Jason Szumlanski <
ja...@floridasolardesigngroup.com> wrote:

> Does anyone know if you can use the Smart Switch as a simple service
> disconnect if not installing solar and batteries now and have it work out
> of the box without any commissioning?
>
> I have a client building a new house and they are going to add solar and
> batteries after the certificate of occupancy is issued. I want to get the
> Smart switch installed as a service disconnect so I don't have to pull the
> meter later. I assume I can trust use the load side lugs to feed the main
> distribution panel in the home.
>
> Jason Szumlanski
> Florida Solar Design Group
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[RE-wrenches] Enphase Enpower Smart Switch as service disconnect

[Jason Szumlanski]

Does anyone know if you can use the Smart Switch as a simple service
disconnect if not installing solar and batteries now and have it work out
of the box without any commissioning?

I have a client building a new house and they are going to add solar and
batteries after the certificate of occupancy is issued. I want to get the
Smart switch installed as a service disconnect so I don't have to pull the
meter later. I assume I can trust use the load side lugs to feed the main
distribution panel in the home.

Jason Szumlanski
Florida Solar Design Group
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