Re: [RE-wrenches] Goofy roofing

2017-06-10 Thread jerrysgarage01 


WrenchesTake a look at Fastenall, thats all they doJerry


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Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Goofy roofing 

Mudge Fasteners.From: penobscotso...@midmaine.com
Sent: ‎6/‎10/‎2017 13:52
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Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Goofy roofing

These guys sell all sizes:

https://www.buyrailings.com/product/hanger-bolt-316-stainless-steel-m8-x-2-each-/5368?gdffi=a1d228a0145c40b2b64b7bf62559eafa=A2FA3E88DA104CFB950485A2F169884A==CNmksPTrs9QCFQpMDQod7S0LYA

Daryl


> Dear Wrenches,
> Can anyone direct me to a source for stainless hanger bolts without going
> through a solar distributor?  I remember around 15 years ago a supplier
> up in the Seattle area, but now cannot find them.  Any help is
> appreciated.
> Cheers,Jerry Caldwell
>
> On Tuesday, May 3, 2016 6:43 AM, August Goers <aug...@luminalt.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> 

Re: [RE-wrenches] Goofy roofing

2017-06-10 Thread Glenn Burt 
Mudge Fasteners.

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Sent: ‎6/‎10/‎2017 13:52
To: "Jerry Caldwell" <solarcow...@yahoo.com>; "RE-wrenches" 
<re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org>
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Goofy roofing

These guys sell all sizes:

https://www.buyrailings.com/product/hanger-bolt-316-stainless-steel-m8-x-2-each-/5368?gdffi=a1d228a0145c40b2b64b7bf62559eafa=A2FA3E88DA104CFB950485A2F169884A==CNmksPTrs9QCFQpMDQod7S0LYA

Daryl


> Dear Wrenches,
> Can anyone direct me to a source for stainless hanger bolts without going
> through a solar distributor?  I remember around 15 years ago a supplier
> up in the Seattle area, but now cannot find them.  Any help is
> appreciated.
> Cheers,Jerry Caldwell
>
> On Tuesday, May 3, 2016 6:43 AM, August Goers <aug...@luminalt.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>  Bill –  So it sounds like you have
> a corrugated metal roof installed by a handyman over an existing comp
> shingle roof? It might be wise to get your building department
> planchecker or inspector involved at this point since it sounds like you
> have a potential code violation. Adding PV to an already shotty roof
> setup will just compound problems down the line. That said, if you
> can’t trust the purlins (or what I think you are referring to as 1” x
> 4” stringers) to be structural members, then I suppose you could
> install long hanger bolts all the way through the metal roof and into the
>  rafters? You could use a double jam-nut setup to mount your racking.
> Just an idea, but it is not an ideal situation.  Good luck out
> there! Best, August From: RE-wrenches
> [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of frenergy
> Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2016 7:47 AM
> To: RE-wrenches
> Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Goofy roofing Benn, August, etc       
> Sorry for omitting a somewhat crucial detailbelow these stringers it
> is a "standard" residential stacked roof with 2X6 rafters on 16" centers
> with 1/2 " plywood deck. No purlins.  I appreciate the feedback/good
> ideas.BillFeather River Solar Electric On 4/29/2016 3:28 PM, August Goers
> wrote:
> Benn, We’ve done it several ways including putting four 14 x 1.5”
> TYPE 17 screws per attachment point through the metal and into the 1” x
> wood purlin. The key is that the load path all the way down needs to be
> capable of handling the worst case loads. So we had to check that too.
> Some racking manufactures such as Unirac have online calculators to give
> point loads.  Best, August From: RE-wrenches
> [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Benn
> Kilburn
> Sent: Friday, April 29, 2016 2:17 PM
> To: RE-wrenches
> Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Goofy roofing August, et al;If the purlins are
> only 1"x4" or 1"x6" or1"x anything, are you only relying on the 1"
> purlin as the attachment point or are you hitting the vertical trusses
> below the purlins? We are working on a corrugated roof right now and
> using a Schletter roof bracket. The name of it escapes me at the moment.
> Maybe FixT?  We are attaching to purlins which are 2"x6".  I wouldn't
> think 1"x anything would provide enough pull-out?Benn KilburnSkyFire
> Energy Inc. 780-906-7807 
> On Apr 29, 2016, at 9:09 AM, August Goers <aug...@luminalt.com> wrote:
> Hi Bill, It sounds like you’re talking about a purlin type setup –
> 4’ sounds a little far apart but I guess that’s what you have to deal
> with. If you have a corrugated metal roof, we’ve used S-5 CurruBrackets
> screwed through the metal and into the purlins and then either run the
> solar rail up and down the roof or install a sub-rack system (with strut
> or angle aluminum) perpendicular to your solar rail.  Best, August
>  From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On
> Behalf Of frenergy
> Sent: Friday, April 29, 2016 6:55 AM
> To: RE-wrenches
> Subject: [RE-wrenches] Goofy roofing Recently, a customer had a metal
> roof (not standing seam) installed by a "handyman".  Pretty clean
> installation however for some reason he ran 1X6 stringers across the
> roof  on the 1/2" plywood deck spaced about every 4 feet (as you go from
> ridge to eaves).  Of course the roofing screws are at the stringers. 
> I'm sure he had a great reason for doing so.  So now I have been asked to
> install an array on this roof.  You can feel how "soft" the roof is as
> you walk on it of course because you are walking on air-below-metal for
> most of the roof.  Stringer locations don't jive with possible feet/post
> locations for

Re: [RE-wrenches] Goofy roofing

2017-06-10 Thread frenergy 

Jerry,

  Try  www.fastenal.com look under "bolts"

Bill



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Re: [RE-wrenches] Goofy roofing

2017-06-10 Thread penobscotsolar 
These guys sell all sizes:

https://www.buyrailings.com/product/hanger-bolt-316-stainless-steel-m8-x-2-each-/5368?gdffi=a1d228a0145c40b2b64b7bf62559eafa=A2FA3E88DA104CFB950485A2F169884A==CNmksPTrs9QCFQpMDQod7S0LYA

Daryl


> Dear Wrenches,
> Can anyone direct me to a source for stainless hanger bolts without going
> through a solar distributor?  I remember around 15 years ago a supplier
> up in the Seattle area, but now cannot find them.  Any help is
> appreciated.
> Cheers,Jerry Caldwell
>
> On Tuesday, May 3, 2016 6:43 AM, August Goers 
> wrote:
>
>
>  Bill –  So it sounds like you have
> a corrugated metal roof installed by a handyman over an existing comp
> shingle roof? It might be wise to get your building department
> planchecker or inspector involved at this point since it sounds like you
> have a potential code violation. Adding PV to an already shotty roof
> setup will just compound problems down the line. That said, if you
> can’t trust the purlins (or what I think you are referring to as 1” x
> 4” stringers) to be structural members, then I suppose you could
> install long hanger bolts all the way through the metal roof and into the
>  rafters? You could use a double jam-nut setup to mount your racking.
> Just an idea, but it is not an ideal situation.  Good luck out
> there! Best, August From: RE-wrenches
> [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of frenergy
> Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2016 7:47 AM
> To: RE-wrenches
> Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Goofy roofing Benn, August, etc       
> Sorry for omitting a somewhat crucial detailbelow these stringers it
> is a "standard" residential stacked roof with 2X6 rafters on 16" centers
> with 1/2 " plywood deck. No purlins.  I appreciate the feedback/good
> ideas.BillFeather River Solar Electric On 4/29/2016 3:28 PM, August Goers
> wrote:
> Benn, We’ve done it several ways including putting four 14 x 1.5”
> TYPE 17 screws per attachment point through the metal and into the 1” x
> wood purlin. The key is that the load path all the way down needs to be
> capable of handling the worst case loads. So we had to check that too.
> Some racking manufactures such as Unirac have online calculators to give
> point loads.  Best, August From: RE-wrenches
> [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Benn
> Kilburn
> Sent: Friday, April 29, 2016 2:17 PM
> To: RE-wrenches
> Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Goofy roofing August, et al;If the purlins are
> only 1"x4" or 1"x6" or1"x anything, are you only relying on the 1"
> purlin as the attachment point or are you hitting the vertical trusses
> below the purlins? We are working on a corrugated roof right now and
> using a Schletter roof bracket. The name of it escapes me at the moment.
> Maybe FixT?  We are attaching to purlins which are 2"x6".  I wouldn't
> think 1"x anything would provide enough pull-out?Benn KilburnSkyFire
> Energy Inc. 780-906-7807 
> On Apr 29, 2016, at 9:09 AM, August Goers  wrote:
> Hi Bill, It sounds like you’re talking about a purlin type setup –
> 4’ sounds a little far apart but I guess that’s what you have to deal
> with. If you have a corrugated metal roof, we’ve used S-5 CurruBrackets
> screwed through the metal and into the purlins and then either run the
> solar rail up and down the roof or install a sub-rack system (with strut
> or angle aluminum) perpendicular to your solar rail.  Best, August
>  From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On
> Behalf Of frenergy
> Sent: Friday, April 29, 2016 6:55 AM
> To: RE-wrenches
> Subject: [RE-wrenches] Goofy roofing Recently, a customer had a metal
> roof (not standing seam) installed by a "handyman".  Pretty clean
> installation however for some reason he ran 1X6 stringers across the
> roof  on the 1/2" plywood deck spaced about every 4 feet (as you go from
> ridge to eaves).  Of course the roofing screws are at the stringers. 
> I'm sure he had a great reason for doing so.  So now I have been asked to
> install an array on this roof.  You can feel how "soft" the roof is as
> you walk on it of course because you are walking on air-below-metal for
> most of the roof.  Stringer locations don't jive with possible feet/post
> locations for rail.  I'm usually pretty good at problem solving but I'm
> accepting ideas.BillFeather River Solar Electric           
> Bill Battagin, Owner4291 Nelson St.Taylorsville, CA 95983530.284.7849CA
> Lic 874049www.frenergy.net
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Goofy roofing

2016-05-03 Thread August Goers 
Bill –



So it sounds like you have a corrugated metal roof installed by a handyman
over an existing comp shingle roof? It might be wise to get your building
department planchecker or inspector involved at this point since it sounds
like you have a potential code violation. Adding PV to an already shotty
roof setup will just compound problems down the line. That said, if you
can’t trust the purlins (or what I think you are referring to as 1” x 4”
stringers) to be structural members, then I suppose you could install long
hanger bolts all the way through the metal roof and into the  rafters? You
could use a double jam-nut setup to mount your racking. Just an idea, but
it is not an ideal situation.



Good luck out there!



Best, August



*From:* RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] *On
Behalf Of *frenergy
*Sent:* Saturday, April 30, 2016 7:47 AM
*To:* RE-wrenches
*Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Goofy roofing



Benn, August, etc

Sorry for omitting a somewhat crucial detailbelow these
stringers it is a "standard" residential stacked roof with 2X6 rafters on
16" centers with 1/2 " plywood deck. No purlins.  I appreciate the
feedback/good ideas.

Bill

Feather River Solar Electric



On 4/29/2016 3:28 PM, August Goers wrote:

Benn,



We’ve done it several ways including putting four 14 x 1.5” TYPE 17 screws
per attachment point through the metal and into the 1” x wood purlin. The
key is that the load path all the way down needs to be capable of handling
the worst case loads. So we had to check that too. Some racking
manufactures such as Unirac have online calculators to give point loads.



Best, August



*From:* RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] *On
Behalf Of *Benn Kilburn
*Sent:* Friday, April 29, 2016 2:17 PM
*To:* RE-wrenches
*Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Goofy roofing



August, et al;

If the purlins are only 1"x4" or 1"x6" or1"x anything, are you only
relying on the 1" purlin as the attachment point or are you hitting the
vertical trusses below the purlins?



We are working on a corrugated roof right now and using a Schletter roof
bracket. The name of it escapes me at the moment. Maybe FixT?

We are attaching to purlins which are 2"x6".  I wouldn't think 1"x anything
would provide enough pull-out?

Benn Kilburn

SkyFire Energy Inc.

780-906-7807




On Apr 29, 2016, at 9:09 AM, August Goers <aug...@luminalt.com> wrote:

Hi Bill,



It sounds like you’re talking about a purlin type setup – 4’ sounds a
little far apart but I guess that’s what you have to deal with. If you have
a corrugated metal roof, we’ve used S-5 CurruBrackets screwed through the
metal and into the purlins and then either run the solar rail up and down
the roof or install a sub-rack system (with strut or angle aluminum)
perpendicular to your solar rail.



Best,



August



*From:* RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] *On
Behalf Of *frenergy
*Sent:* Friday, April 29, 2016 6:55 AM
*To:* RE-wrenches
*Subject:* [RE-wrenches] Goofy roofing



Recently, a customer had a metal roof (not standing seam) installed by a
"handyman".  Pretty clean installation however for some reason he ran 1X6
stringers across the roof  on the 1/2" plywood deck spaced about every 4
feet (as you go from ridge to eaves).  Of course the roofing screws are at
the stringers.  I'm sure he had a *great* reason for doing so.  So now I
have been asked to install an array on this roof.  You can feel how "soft"
the roof is as you walk on it of course because you are walking on
air-below-metal for most of the roof.  Stringer locations don't jive with
possible feet/post locations for rail.  I'm usually pretty good at problem
solving but I'm accepting ideas.

Bill

Feather River Solar Electric

Bill Battagin, Owner

4291 Nelson St.

Taylorsville, CA 95983

530.284.7849

CA Lic 874049

www.frenergy.net

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Re: [RE-wrenches] Goofy roofing

2016-04-30 Thread frenergy 

Benn, August, etc

Sorry for omitting a somewhat crucial detailbelow these 
stringers it is a "standard" residential stacked roof with 2X6 rafters 
on 16" centers with 1/2 " plywood deck. No purlins.  I appreciate the 
feedback/good ideas.


Bill

Feather River Solar Electric


On 4/29/2016 3:28 PM, August Goers wrote:


Benn,

We’ve done it several ways including putting four 14 x 1.5” TYPE 17 
screws per attachment point through the metal and into the 1” x wood 
purlin. The key is that the load path all the way down needs to be 
capable of handling the worst case loads. So we had to check that too. 
Some racking manufactures such as Unirac have online calculators to 
give point loads.


Best, August

*From:*RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org 
<mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org>] *On Behalf Of 
*Benn Kilburn

*Sent:* Friday, April 29, 2016 2:17 PM
*To:* RE-wrenches
*Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Goofy roofing

August, et al;

If the purlins are only 1"x4" or 1"x6" or1"x anything, are you 
only relying on the 1" purlin as the attachment point or are you 
hitting the vertical trusses below the purlins?


We are working on a corrugated roof right now and using a Schletter 
roof bracket. The name of it escapes me at the moment. Maybe FixT?


We are attaching to purlins which are 2"x6".  I wouldn't think 1"x 
anything would provide enough pull-out?


Benn Kilburn

SkyFire Energy Inc.

780-906-7807


On Apr 29, 2016, at 9:09 AM, August Goers <aug...@luminalt.com 
<mailto:aug...@luminalt.com>> wrote:


Hi Bill,

It sounds like you’re talking about a purlin type setup – 4’
sounds a little far apart but I guess that’s what you have to deal
with. If you have a corrugated metal roof, we’ve used S-5
CurruBrackets screwed through the metal and into the purlins and
then either run the solar rail up and down the roof or install a
sub-rack system (with strut or angle aluminum) perpendicular to
your solar rail.

Best,

August

*From:*RE-wrenches
[mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org
<mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org>] *On Behalf Of
*frenergy
    *Sent:* Friday, April 29, 2016 6:55 AM
*To:* RE-wrenches
*Subject:* [RE-wrenches] Goofy roofing

Recently, a customer had a metal roof (not standing seam)
installed by a "handyman".  Pretty clean installation however for
some reason he ran 1X6 stringers across the roof  on the 1/2"
plywood deck spaced about every 4 feet (as you go from ridge to
eaves).  Of course the roofing screws are at the stringers.  I'm
sure he had a /great/ reason for doing so.  So now I have been
asked to install an array on this roof.  You can feel how "soft"
the roof is as you walk on it of course because you are walking on
air-below-metal for most of the roof.  Stringer locations don't
jive with possible feet/post locations for rail. I'm usually
pretty good at problem solving but I'm accepting ideas.

Bill

Feather River Solar Electric

Bill Battagin, Owner

4291 Nelson St.

Taylorsville, CA 95983

530.284.7849

CA Lic 874049

www.frenergy.net <http://www.frenergy.net>

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Re: [RE-wrenches] Goofy roofing

2016-04-29 Thread August Goers 
Benn,



We’ve done it several ways including putting four 14 x 1.5” TYPE 17 screws
per attachment point through the metal and into the 1” x wood purlin. The
key is that the load path all the way down needs to be capable of handling
the worst case loads. So we had to check that too. Some racking
manufactures such as Unirac have online calculators to give point loads.



Best, August



*From:* RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] *On
Behalf Of *Benn Kilburn
*Sent:* Friday, April 29, 2016 2:17 PM
*To:* RE-wrenches
*Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Goofy roofing



August, et al;

If the purlins are only 1"x4" or 1"x6" or1"x anything, are you only
relying on the 1" purlin as the attachment point or are you hitting the
vertical trusses below the purlins?



We are working on a corrugated roof right now and using a Schletter roof
bracket. The name of it escapes me at the moment. Maybe FixT?

We are attaching to purlins which are 2"x6".  I wouldn't think 1"x anything
would provide enough pull-out?

Benn Kilburn

SkyFire Energy Inc.

780-906-7807




On Apr 29, 2016, at 9:09 AM, August Goers <aug...@luminalt.com> wrote:

Hi Bill,



It sounds like you’re talking about a purlin type setup – 4’ sounds a
little far apart but I guess that’s what you have to deal with. If you have
a corrugated metal roof, we’ve used S-5 CurruBrackets screwed through the
metal and into the purlins and then either run the solar rail up and down
the roof or install a sub-rack system (with strut or angle aluminum)
perpendicular to your solar rail.



Best,



August



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Recently, a customer had a metal roof (not standing seam) installed by a
"handyman".  Pretty clean installation however for some reason he ran 1X6
stringers across the roof  on the 1/2" plywood deck spaced about every 4
feet (as you go from ridge to eaves).  Of course the roofing screws are at
the stringers.  I'm sure he had a *great* reason for doing so.  So now I
have been asked to install an array on this roof.  You can feel how "soft"
the roof is as you walk on it of course because you are walking on
air-below-metal for most of the roof.  Stringer locations don't jive with
possible feet/post locations for rail.  I'm usually pretty good at problem
solving but I'm accepting ideas.

Bill

Feather River Solar Electric

Bill Battagin, Owner

4291 Nelson St.

Taylorsville, CA 95983

530.284.7849

CA Lic 874049

www.frenergy.net

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Re: [RE-wrenches] Goofy roofing

2016-04-29 Thread Benn Kilburn 
August, et al;
If the purlins are only 1"x4" or 1"x6" or1"x anything, are you only relying 
on the 1" purlin as the attachment point or are you hitting the vertical 
trusses below the purlins?

We are working on a corrugated roof right now and using a Schletter roof 
bracket. The name of it escapes me at the moment. Maybe FixT?  
We are attaching to purlins which are 2"x6".  I wouldn't think 1"x anything 
would provide enough pull-out?

Benn Kilburn
SkyFire Energy Inc. 
780-906-7807


> On Apr 29, 2016, at 9:09 AM, August Goers <aug...@luminalt.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Bill,
>  
> It sounds like you’re talking about a purlin type setup – 4’ sounds a little 
> far apart but I guess that’s what you have to deal with. If you have a 
> corrugated metal roof, we’ve used S-5 CurruBrackets screwed through the metal 
> and into the purlins and then either run the solar rail up and down the roof 
> or install a sub-rack system (with strut or angle aluminum) perpendicular to 
> your solar rail.
>  
> Best,
>  
> August
>  
> From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On 
> Behalf Of frenergy
> Sent: Friday, April 29, 2016 6:55 AM
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> Subject: [RE-wrenches] Goofy roofing
>  
> Recently, a customer had a metal roof (not standing seam) installed by a 
> "handyman".  Pretty clean installation however for some reason he ran 1X6 
> stringers across the roof  on the 1/2" plywood deck spaced about every 4 feet 
> (as you go from ridge to eaves).  Of course the roofing screws are at the 
> stringers.  I'm sure he had a great reason for doing so.  So now I have been 
> asked to install an array on this roof.  You can feel how "soft" the roof is 
> as you walk on it of course because you are walking on air-below-metal for 
> most of the roof.  Stringer locations don't jive with possible feet/post 
> locations for rail.  I'm usually pretty good at problem solving but I'm 
> accepting ideas.
> 
> Bill
> 
> Feather River Solar Electric
> Bill Battagin, Owner
> 4291 Nelson St.
> Taylorsville, CA 95983
> 530.284.7849
> CA Lic 874049
> www.frenergy.net
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Goofy roofing

2016-04-29 Thread Chris Mason 
I would use Everest Express rail pop riveted to every trapezoid, it will
add a lot of strength to the roofing. You may not bee able to get it any
more though.
On Apr 29, 2016 09:54, "frenergy"  wrote:

> Recently, a customer had a metal roof (not standing seam) installed by a
> "handyman".  Pretty clean installation however for some reason he ran 1X6
> stringers across the roof  on the 1/2" plywood deck spaced about every 4
> feet (as you go from ridge to eaves).  Of course the roofing screws are at
> the stringers.  I'm sure he had a *great* reason for doing so.  So now I
> have been asked to install an array on this roof.  You can feel how "soft"
> the roof is as you walk on it of course because you are walking on
> air-below-metal for most of the roof.  Stringer locations don't jive with
> possible feet/post locations for rail.  I'm usually pretty good at problem
> solving but I'm accepting ideas.
>
> Bill
>
> Feather River Solar Electric
> Bill Battagin, Owner
> 4291 Nelson St.
> Taylorsville, CA 95983530.284.7849
> CA Lic 874049www.frenergy.net
>
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Goofy roofing

2016-04-29 Thread Jason Szumlanski 
Look into the Versabracket. We get quite a lot of metal roofing installed
around here over existing shingles with horizontal 1x4 battens. Spacing is
usually 2', however.


Jason Szumlanski



On Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 9:55 AM, frenergy  wrote:

> Recently, a customer had a metal roof (not standing seam) installed by a
> "handyman".  Pretty clean installation however for some reason he ran 1X6
> stringers across the roof  on the 1/2" plywood deck spaced about every 4
> feet (as you go from ridge to eaves).  Of course the roofing screws are at
> the stringers.  I'm sure he had a *great* reason for doing so.  So now I
> have been asked to install an array on this roof.  You can feel how "soft"
> the roof is as you walk on it of course because you are walking on
> air-below-metal for most of the roof.  Stringer locations don't jive with
> possible feet/post locations for rail.  I'm usually pretty good at problem
> solving but I'm accepting ideas.
>
> Bill
>
> Feather River Solar Electric
> Bill Battagin, Owner
> 4291 Nelson St.
> Taylorsville, CA 95983530.284.7849
> CA Lic 874049www.frenergy.net
>
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Goofy roofing

2016-04-29 Thread Gordon Woodcock 
Or if you have to be in portrait you can run strut from peak to gutter and
then add your rails to that. A little cumbersome and more material costs,
so if you can get away with landscape it's definitely better.

Thanks,

Gordon

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> Recently, a customer had a metal roof (not standing seam) installed by a
> "handyman".  Pretty clean installation however for some reason he ran
> 1X6 stringers across the roof  on the 1/2" plywood deck spaced about
> every 4 feet (as you go from ridge to eaves).  Of course the roofing
> screws are at the stringers.  I'm sure he had a /great/ reason for doing
> so.  So now I have been asked to install an array on this roof.  You can
> feel how "soft" the roof is as you walk on it of course because you are
> walking on air-below-metal for most of the roof.  Stringer locations
> don't jive with possible feet/post locations for rail. I'm usually
> pretty good at problem solving but I'm accepting ideas.
>
> Bill
>
> Feather River Solar Electric
> Bill Battagin, Owner
> 4291 Nelson St.
> Taylorsville, CA 95983
> 530.284.7849
> CA Lic 874049
> www.frenergy.net
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Goofy roofing

2016-04-29 Thread jay 
Hi Bill,

What about installing unistrut to the roof on those attachment points, then 
installing the racking to the unistrut?

jay

peltz power
> On Apr 29, 2016, at 6:55 AM, frenergy  wrote:
> 
> Recently, a customer had a metal roof (not standing seam) installed by a 
> "handyman".  Pretty clean installation however for some reason he ran 1X6 
> stringers across the roof  on the 1/2" plywood deck spaced about every 4 feet 
> (as you go from ridge to eaves).  Of course the roofing screws are at the 
> stringers.  I'm sure he had a great reason for doing so.  So now I have been 
> asked to install an array on this roof.  You can feel how "soft" the roof is 
> as you walk on it of course because you are walking on air-below-metal for 
> most of the roof.  Stringer locations don't jive with possible feet/post 
> locations for rail.  I'm usually pretty good at problem solving but I'm 
> accepting   ideas.
> 
> Bill
> 
> Feather River Solar Electric
> Bill Battagin, Owner
> 4291 Nelson St.
> Taylorsville, CA 95983
> 530.284.7849
> CA Lic 874049
> www.frenergy.net 
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Goofy roofing

2016-04-29 Thread August Goers 
Hi Bill,



It sounds like you’re talking about a purlin type setup – 4’ sounds a
little far apart but I guess that’s what you have to deal with. If you have
a corrugated metal roof, we’ve used S-5 CurruBrackets screwed through the
metal and into the purlins and then either run the solar rail up and down
the roof or install a sub-rack system (with strut or angle aluminum)
perpendicular to your solar rail.



Best,



August



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*Subject:* [RE-wrenches] Goofy roofing



Recently, a customer had a metal roof (not standing seam) installed by a
"handyman".  Pretty clean installation however for some reason he ran 1X6
stringers across the roof  on the 1/2" plywood deck spaced about every 4
feet (as you go from ridge to eaves).  Of course the roofing screws are at
the stringers.  I'm sure he had a *great* reason for doing so.  So now I
have been asked to install an array on this roof.  You can feel how "soft"
the roof is as you walk on it of course because you are walking on
air-below-metal for most of the roof.  Stringer locations don't jive with
possible feet/post locations for rail.  I'm usually pretty good at problem
solving but I'm accepting ideas.

Bill

Feather River Solar Electric

Bill Battagin, Owner

4291 Nelson St.

Taylorsville, CA 95983

530.284.7849

CA Lic 874049

www.frenergy.net
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Goofy roofing

2016-04-29 Thread Kirpal Khalsa 
Panels in landscape mode with rails running peak to gutter?
On Apr 29, 2016 6:54 AM, "frenergy"  wrote:

> Recently, a customer had a metal roof (not standing seam) installed by a
> "handyman".  Pretty clean installation however for some reason he ran 1X6
> stringers across the roof  on the 1/2" plywood deck spaced about every 4
> feet (as you go from ridge to eaves).  Of course the roofing screws are at
> the stringers.  I'm sure he had a *great* reason for doing so.  So now I
> have been asked to install an array on this roof.  You can feel how "soft"
> the roof is as you walk on it of course because you are walking on
> air-below-metal for most of the roof.  Stringer locations don't jive with
> possible feet/post locations for rail.  I'm usually pretty good at problem
> solving but I'm accepting ideas.
>
> Bill
>
> Feather River Solar Electric
> Bill Battagin, Owner
> 4291 Nelson St.
> Taylorsville, CA 95983530.284.7849
> CA Lic 874049www.frenergy.net
>
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[RE-wrenches] Goofy roofing

2016-04-29 Thread frenergy 
Recently, a customer had a metal roof (not standing seam) installed by a 
"handyman".  Pretty clean installation however for some reason he ran 
1X6 stringers across the roof  on the 1/2" plywood deck spaced about 
every 4 feet (as you go from ridge to eaves).  Of course the roofing 
screws are at the stringers.  I'm sure he had a /great/ reason for doing 
so.  So now I have been asked to install an array on this roof.  You can 
feel how "soft" the roof is as you walk on it of course because you are 
walking on air-below-metal for most of the roof.  Stringer locations 
don't jive with possible feet/post locations for rail. I'm usually 
pretty good at problem solving but I'm accepting ideas.


Bill

Feather River Solar Electric
Bill Battagin, Owner
4291 Nelson St.
Taylorsville, CA 95983
530.284.7849
CA Lic 874049
www.frenergy.net

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