Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback 200 RE
Hi gang. The spec sheet for the battery has a bar graph for a 5-hr. rate: 6,200 cycles at 10% DOD 5,700 at 20% 1,800 at 50% 600 at 80% 425 at 100% Tom Duffy wrote at 06:13 PM 1/22/2014: Life depends on the depth of discharge. What load are you calculating? That will determine the battery needed, and the depth of discharge expected. After that we might guess around the variables and predict the life. I dont want to nit-pic but this calculation has to start with hard numbers. ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change email address settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback 200 RE
This is what the customer decided on. What kind of life do you expect? On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 10:20 AM, Tom Duffy t...@thesolar.biz wrote: Chris Yes they seem to be a well-made good quality battery, and we have not had any problems in properly designed and programed systems. Kind regards *Tom Duffy* *Senior Solar Design Engineer* [image: Real-logo-X-195] *E-Mail: **t...@thesolar.biz t...@thesolar.biz* *Panama Office: **507-6126-1253* *Direct Toll Free:* *888-503-6772 888-503-6772* *International: **575-539-2111 575-539-2111* *SKYPE Address: **thesolarbiz* *Although no trees were killed in the sending of this message, a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.* *Confidentiality Notice*: This message including any attachments is for the sole use of the intended recipient and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete any copies of this message. *From:* re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] *On Behalf Of *Chris Mason *Sent:* Monday, January 20, 2014 7:58 PM *To:* RE-wrenches *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback 200 RE So back to the question...has anyone had experience with the Outback 200RE? ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change email address settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org -- Chris Mason President, Comet Systems Ltd www.cometenergysystems.com Cell: 264.235.5670 Skype: netconcepts image003.png___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change email address settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback 200 RE
Chris Yes they seem to be a well-made good quality battery, and we have not had any problems in properly designed and programed systems. Kind regards Tom Duffy Senior Solar Design Engineer [Real-logo-X-195] E-Mail: t...@thesolar.biz Panama Office: 507-6126-1253 Direct Toll Free: 888-503-6772 International: 575-539-2111 SKYPE Address: thesolarbiz Although no trees were killed in the sending of this message, a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. Confidentiality Notice: This message including any attachments is for the sole use of the intended recipient and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete any copies of this message. From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Chris Mason Sent: Monday, January 20, 2014 7:58 PM To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback 200 RE So back to the question...has anyone had experience with the Outback 200RE? inline: image003.png___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change email address settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback 200 RE
Jerry (and Chris), I can't agree that there is nothing better than FLA batteries. It depends on may factors. For example, many of our customers are only using their system seasonally. When away for up to 6 months, an AGM or GEL battery will be far superior unless you have a knowledgable person servicing the bank every month. If your customer is not fully dedicated to understanding and then actually caring out all the requirements of owning a flooded bank (watering, equalizing, keeping a log book, testing, cleaning, …), then I would not suggest FLA. Chris, designing and installing battery based systems require lots of understanding. You will likely be the one educating your customer and resolving problems for many years. The single most important item to install in any off grid system is a battery capacity meter. Its like a fuel gauge so you can see what you are doing with your battery bank. Check out Blue Sky Energy and Bogart Engineering. Suggesting Rolls (very high quality) and Interstate (cheapest battery from JC) in the same sentence…well, that just made my teeth hurt. Larry On Jan 18, 2014, at 7:21 PM, Jerry Shafer jerrysgarag...@gmail.com wrote: My mistake nothing better then FLA vented, I would stay away from centurians I have had a lot of premee failures, rolls, interstate and the big boys Hawker can last 20 years. Also nickel iron no not metal iron cost alot but you should never need to replace them my last set was 35k for 900 amps Jerry On Jan 18, 2014 4:20 PM, Chris Mason cometenergysyst...@gmail.com wrote: This is for an off-grid system. On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 8:07 PM, Jerry Shafer jerrysgarag...@gmail.com wrote: For for grid tie system l I would only use AGM weather it be interstate or rolls and amps per buck is better over time Jerry On Jan 18, 2014 3:16 PM, Chris Mason cometenergysyst...@gmail.com wrote: We don't do a lot of off-grid systems so I am short on experience with battery systems. I have a 8KW Radian system for which I am considering Rolls Surrette or Outback 200RE AGM batteries. I know people like the Surrettes, what is the experience with the outback battery system? -- Chris Mason ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change email address settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback 200 RE
On Jan 20, 2014 8:42 AM, Larry Crutcher, Starlight Solar Power Systems la...@starlightsolar.com wrote: Jerry (and Chris), I can't agree that there is nothing better than FLA batteries. It depends on may factors. For example, many of our customers are only using their system seasonally. When away for up to 6 months, an AGM or GEL battery will be far superior unless you have a knowledgable person servicing the bank every month. If your customer is not fully dedicated to understanding and then actually caring out all the requirements of owning a flooded bank (watering, equalizing, keeping a log book, testing, cleaning, …), then I would not suggest FLA. Chris, designing and installing battery based systems require lots of understanding. You will likely be the one educating your customer and resolving problems for many years. The single most important item to install in any off grid system is a battery capacity meter. Its like a fuel gauge so you can see what you are doing with your battery bank. Check out Blue Sky Energy and Bogart Engineering. Suggesting Rolls (very high quality) and Interstate (cheapest battery from JC) in the same sentence…well, that just made my teeth hurt. Larry On Jan 18, 2014, at 7:21 PM, Jerry Shafer jerrysgarag...@gmail.com wrote: My mistake nothing better then FLA vented, I would stay away from centurians I have had a lot of premee failures, rolls, interstate and the big boys Hawker can last 20 years. Also nickel iron no not metal iron cost alot but you should never need to replace them my last set was 35k for 900 amps Jerry On Jan 18, 2014 4:20 PM, Chris Mason cometenergysyst...@gmail.com wrote: This is for an off-grid system. On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 8:07 PM, Jerry Shafer jerrysgarag...@gmail.comwrote: For for grid tie system l I would only use AGM weather it be interstate or rolls and amps per buck is better over time Jerry On Jan 18, 2014 3:16 PM, Chris Mason cometenergysyst...@gmail.com wrote: We don't do a lot of off-grid systems so I am short on experience with battery systems. I have a 8KW Radian system for which I am considering Rolls Surrette or Outback 200RE AGM batteries. I know people like the Surrettes, what is the experience with the outback battery system? -- Chris Mason ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change email address settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org Larry There are allot of variables some of which I did not include. Rolls is good Interstate will also work, Hawker is even better, interstate is least expensive and available all over so that is where that came from. If the location is seasonal and small sealed will be OK and both need to be maintained over the Off season. I always try to teach my customers how to perform the service and it will usually fall somewhere between 3 and 4 months apart so if you are away for 6 months this can be an issue. Sealed may be better if there are very low temps during the off season. Most of my off Grid customers are full time and service is part of the maintenance schedule. Education of the owner is very important as that will be there first line of defense of survival and monitoring of the system is always good, we use the Outback system Flex DC with the shunts, it does seam that bogart along with Outback both need to be cleared and reset on occasion. Sorry if I made your teeth hurt. Jerry ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change email address settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback 200 RE
So back to the question...has anyone had experience with the Outback 200RE? ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change email address settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback 200 RE
Hi Chris For an off grid system a 200AH 12 volt battery is rather small without resorting to parallel strings. Three strings is only 600AH which is still on the small side, so one might ask why the 8K inverter? The OutBack cabinet is fine for a back-up grid-tied system, not really a full off grid house Without starting a big discussion, I would stick to a single series string sized to the load for three days autonomy. 200AH is usually a rather small weekend cabin and 600AH would be a smaller medium sized house. Kind regards Tom Duffy Senior Solar Design Engineer [Real-logo-X-195] E-Mail: t...@thesolar.biz Panama Office: 507-6126-1253 Direct Toll Free: 888-503-6772 International: 575-539-2111 SKYPE Address: thesolarbiz Although no trees were killed in the sending of this message, a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. Confidentiality Notice: This message including any attachments is for the sole use of the intended recipient and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete any copies of this message. From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Chris Mason Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2014 6:16 PM To: RE-wrenches Subject: [RE-wrenches] Outback 200 RE We don't do a lot of off-grid systems so I am short on experience with battery systems. I have a 8KW Radian system for which I am considering Rolls Surrette or Outback 200RE AGM batteries. I know people like the Surrettes, what is the experience with the outback battery system? -- Chris Mason inline: image003.png___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change email address settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback 200 RE
Tom, I may be mistaken, but if I understood you correctly you have missed something. The Radian is available only in 48v, so four 12V 200 Ah batteries is eight kilowatt-hours of storage to 80% maximum DoD. Yes, it's small (my off grid home has 26 kW) but one or two strings may be adequate, depending on the customer's application and needs. Allan Allan Sindelar al...@positiveenergysolar.com NABCEP Certified PV Installation Professional NABCEP Certified Technical Sales Professional New Mexico EE98J Journeyman Electrician Founder, Positive Energy, Inc. A Certified B CorporationTM 3209 Richards Lane Santa Fe, New Mexico 87507 505 424-1112 office 780-2738 cell www.positiveenergysolar.com On 1/19/2014 6:12 PM, Tom Duffy wrote: Hi Chris For an off grid system a 200AH 12 volt battery is rather small without resorting to parallel strings. Three strings is only 600AH which is still on the small side, so one might ask why the 8K inverter? The OutBack cabinet is fine for a back-up grid-tied system, not really a full off grid house Without starting a big discussion, I would stick to a single series string sized to the load for three days autonomy. 200AH is usually a rather small weekend cabin and 600AH would be a smaller medium sized house. Kind regards Tom Duffy Senior Solar Design Engineer E-Mail: t...@thesolar.biz Panama Office: 507-6126-1253 Direct Toll Free:888-503-6772 International: 575-539-2111 SKYPE Address: thesolarbiz Although no trees were killed in the sending of this message, a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. Confidentiality Notice: This message including any attachments is for the sole use of the intended recipient and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete any copies of this message. From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Chris Mason Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2014 6:16 PM To: RE-wrenches Subject: [RE-wrenches] Outback 200 RE We don't do a lot of off-grid systems so I am short on experience with battery systems. I have a 8KW Radian system for which I am considering Rolls Surrette or Outback 200RE AGM batteries. I know people like the Surrettes, what is the experience with the outback battery system? -- Chris Mason ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change email address settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change email address settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback 200 RE
The project is hybrid, the house has utility power at the moment. I was looking for feedback on the product, I haven't heard comments on the Outback RE battery system. In the end I recommended a single string of TROJAN, IND9-6V. We will revert to grid at 80% DOD. The house is tropical, high in the mountains and doesn't use a lot of power. On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 9:22 PM, Allan Sindelar al...@positiveenergysolar.com wrote: Tom, I may be mistaken, but if I understood you correctly you have missed something. The Radian is available only in 48v, so four 12V 200 Ah batteries is eight kilowatt-hours of storage to 80% maximum DoD. Yes, it's small (my off grid home has 26 kW) but one or two strings may be adequate, depending on the customer's application and needs. Allan *Allan Sindelar* *al...@positiveenergysolar.com* al...@positiveenergysolar.com NABCEP Certified PV Installation Professional NABCEP Certified Technical Sales Professional New Mexico EE98J Journeyman Electrician Founder, *Positive Energy, Inc.* A Certified B CorporationTM 3209 Richards Lane Santa Fe, New Mexico 87507 *505 424-1112 505%20424-1112 office 780-2738 cell* *www.positiveenergysolar.com* http://www.positiveenergysolar.com/ On 1/19/2014 6:12 PM, Tom Duffy wrote: Hi Chris For an off grid system a 200AH 12 volt battery is rather small without resorting to parallel strings. Three strings is only 600AH which is still on the small side, so one might ask why the 8K inverter? The OutBack cabinet is fine for a back-up grid-tied system, not really a full off grid house Without starting a big discussion, I would stick to a single series string sized to the load for three days autonomy. 200AH is usually a rather small weekend cabin and 600AH would be a smaller medium sized house. Kind regards *Tom Duffy* *Senior Solar Design Engineer* [image: Real-logo-X-195] *E-Mail: **t...@thesolar.biz t...@thesolar.biz* *Panama Office: **507-6126-1253* *Direct Toll Free:**888-503-6772 888-503-6772* *International: **575-539-2111 575-539-2111* *SKYPE Address: **thesolarbiz* *Although no trees were killed in the sending of this message, a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.* *Confidentiality Notice*: This message including any attachments is for the sole use of the intended recipient and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete any copies of this message. *From:* re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [ mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.orgre-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] *On Behalf Of *Chris Mason *Sent:* Saturday, January 18, 2014 6:16 PM *To:* RE-wrenches *Subject:* [RE-wrenches] Outback 200 RE We don't do a lot of off-grid systems so I am short on experience with battery systems. I have a 8KW Radian system for which I am considering Rolls Surrette or Outback 200RE AGM batteries. I know people like the Surrettes, what is the experience with the outback battery system? -- Chris Mason ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change email address settings:http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette:www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios:www.members.re-wrenches.org ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change email address settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org -- Chris Mason President, Comet Systems Ltd www.cometenergysystems.com Cell: 264.235.5670 Skype: netconcepts image/png___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change email address settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback 200 RE
For for grid tie system l I would only use AGM weather it be interstate or rolls and amps per buck is better over time Jerry On Jan 18, 2014 3:16 PM, Chris Mason cometenergysyst...@gmail.com wrote: We don't do a lot of off-grid systems so I am short on experience with battery systems. I have a 8KW Radian system for which I am considering Rolls Surrette or Outback 200RE AGM batteries. I know people like the Surrettes, what is the experience with the outback battery system? -- Chris Mason ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change email address settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change email address settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback 200 RE
This is for an off-grid system. On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 8:07 PM, Jerry Shafer jerrysgarag...@gmail.comwrote: For for grid tie system l I would only use AGM weather it be interstate or rolls and amps per buck is better over time Jerry On Jan 18, 2014 3:16 PM, Chris Mason cometenergysyst...@gmail.com wrote: We don't do a lot of off-grid systems so I am short on experience with battery systems. I have a 8KW Radian system for which I am considering Rolls Surrette or Outback 200RE AGM batteries. I know people like the Surrettes, what is the experience with the outback battery system? -- Chris Mason ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change email address settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change email address settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org -- Chris Mason President, Comet Systems Ltd www.cometenergysystems.com Cell: 264.235.5670 Skype: netconcepts ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change email address settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback 200 RE
Also consider the large industrial batteries such as the Trojan Industrial 2 v models, HUPs, IBE, etc. They have longer cycle life, and therefore are a better deal in the long run. Batteries are the weak link in off grid systems, so you want to really make sure you're getting the right battery, and the right size as well. AGMs are great for GT, but not cost effective for larger off grid systems. Also reread previous threads on batteries, not everyone has been happy with the choices you list. R.Ray Walters CTO, Solarray, Inc Nabcep Certified PV Installer, Licensed Master Electrician Solar Design Engineer 303 505-8760 On 1/18/2014 5:20 PM, Chris Mason wrote: This is for an off-grid system. On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 8:07 PM, Jerry Shafer jerrysgarag...@gmail.com mailto:jerrysgarag...@gmail.com wrote: For for grid tie system l I would only use AGM weather it be interstate or rolls and amps per buck is better over time Jerry On Jan 18, 2014 3:16 PM, Chris Mason cometenergysyst...@gmail.com mailto:cometenergysyst...@gmail.com wrote: We don't do a lot of off-grid systems so I am short on experience with battery systems. I have a 8KW Radian system for which I am considering Rolls Surrette or Outback 200RE AGM batteries. I know people like the Surrettes, what is the experience with the outback battery system? -- Chris Mason ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org mailto:RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change email address settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org http://www.members.re-wrenches.org ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org mailto:RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change email address settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org http://www.members.re-wrenches.org -- Chris Mason President, Comet Systems Ltd www.cometenergysystems.com http://www.cometenergysystems.com Cell: 264.235.5670 Skype: netconcepts ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change email address settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change email address settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
