Re: [regext] draft-ietf-regext-bundling-registration-06.txt - Impact of DNSSEC?

2018-10-30 Thread Patrick Mevzek
On Tue, Oct 30, 2018, at 19:31, Mack, Justin wrote:
> I see that most attributes are shared between domains in the bundle, 
> such as assigned nameservers. Does this mean that DS/DNSKEY information 
> is also shared between these domains?

Not possible for DS data as the DS digest value is computed in part from the 
domain name. So even if using the same key to sign two domains, the DS values 
will be different.

It is technically possible to share a given DNSKEY between multiple domains, 
but then it means their fate is cryptographically tied: one key compromission 
opens attacks to all of them.
It is kind of choosing in the X.509 world if you do one certicate with X 
domains related or not on one side or on the other side doing X separate 
certificates each one with one domain.

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Re: [regext] draft-ietf-regext-bundling-registration-06.txt - Impact of DNSSEC?

2018-10-30 Thread Jiankang Yao

From: Mack, Justin
Date: 2018-10-31 02:31
To: regext@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [regext] draft-ietf-regext-bundling-registration-06.txt - Impact 
of DNSSEC?
>Greetings REGEXT,
>
>What is the impact of DNSSEC on bundled domain names in this specification?
>

I think that there has no direct impact.

>I see that most attributes are shared between domains in the bundle, 
>such as assigned nameservers. Does this mean that DS/DNSKEY information 
>is also shared between these domains?
>

The DNS administrator can choose whether DS/DNSKEY information can be shared or 
not.
This document does not specify it. 

>As a DNS administrator, I assume I must create separate zones for each 
>domain in the bundle, if I want them all to resolve. 


In the case of (TLDs are different)
LABEL.V-tld-A and LABEL.V-tld-B, you must create separated zones.
In the case of  (TLD is same)
 V-label-A.TLD and V-label-B.TLD,  you can choose to create separated zones or 
not.



>Must I share the 
>same Key Signing Keys (KSKs) and even Zone Signing Keys (ZSKs) between 
>the bundled zones?
>

As pointed above, 
The DNS administrator can choose whether DS/DNSKEY information can be shared or 
not.
This document does not specify it. 


Thanks.

Jiankang Yao

>Thank you.
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Re: [regext] draft-ietf-regext-bundling-registration-06.txt - Impact of DNSSEC?

2018-10-30 Thread Mack, Justin
Greetings REGEXT,

What is the impact of DNSSEC on bundled domain names in this specification?

I see that most attributes are shared between domains in the bundle, 
such as assigned nameservers. Does this mean that DS/DNSKEY information 
is also shared between these domains?

As a DNS administrator, I assume I must create separate zones for each 
domain in the bundle, if I want them all to resolve. Must I share the 
same Key Signing Keys (KSKs) and even Zone Signing Keys (ZSKs) between 
the bundled zones?

Thank you.

Justin Mack
MarkMonitor

(Apologies for the rewritten URLs below.)


On 10/11/2018 03:32 AM, internet-dra...@ietf.org wrote:
> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts 
> directories.
> This draft is a work item of the Registration Protocols Extensions WG of the 
> IETF.
>
>  Title   : Extensible Provisioning Protocol (EPP) Domain Name 
> Mapping Extension for Strict Bundling Registration
>  Authors : Ning Kong
>Jiankang Yao
>Linlin Zhou
>Wil Tan
>Jiagui Xie
>   Filename: draft-ietf-regext-bundling-registration-06.txt
>   Pages   : 24
>   Date: 2018-10-11
>
> Abstract:
> This document describes an extension of Extensible Provisioning
> Protocol (EPP) domain name mapping for the provisioning and
> management of strict bundling registration of domain names.
> Specified in XML, this mapping extends the EPP domain name mapping to
> provide additional features required for the provisioning of bundled
> domain names.
>
>
> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
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