Re: Wills that state they are to be interpreted under religious law

2011-04-30 Thread verizon
The courts are not going to get into which version of Sharia law applies. They 
want to apply “neutral principals of law.” The court will want something that 
can be applied mechanically and does not violate public policy.
 
There are many cases of wills with religious requirements.
 
Shapira v. Union National Bank 315 NE2d 825 (Ohio 1974). Requirement that son, 
Daniel Jacob Shapira, marry a Jewish girl the daughter of two Jewish parents 
within 7 years of dad’s death was upheld by the court. (I think there has been 
more than one movie with the time limit requirement.)
 
What if he marries a woman who meets the requirements and they join Jews for 
Jesus?
 
Maddox v Maddox, 52 Va 804 (Virginia 1854) Requirement that niece marry a 
Quaker was an unreasonable restraint because there were only 5 or 6 Quaker 
bachelors in the neighborhood. There may have been a different result if the 
niece had lived in Pennsylvania.
 
Will of Bernard Manger set up a trust to pay for grandchildren’s college 
education so long a they go to Shabbat services twice a month. Two sons 
disinherited because they did not marry Jewish women.  Senator Joseph Lieberman 
is the trustee. A settlement rewriting the will was agreed to with the two sons 
inheriting and their wives converting to Judaism in the orthodox manner. (Wall 
Street Journal August 25, 2000)
 
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On Apr 29, 2011, at 7:07 PM, Douglas Laycock wrote:

 this seems rather obviously to be a homemade will (what American lawyer 
 drafting a formal docunment would talk about kids instead of children), and 
 if he had gotten proper legal advice, he could have left his money as he 
 wanted, and preferred his sons to his daughters, with no limitation in any 
 state except Louisiana I think. 
 
 So in part the question is whether he can do indirectly what he could have 
 done directly. But that's the question only if Islamic law is clear, and 
 there's only one version on this issue. I don't know the answer, but there 
 are said to be four main schools of Islamic law, and it seems unlikely that 
 they all unambiguously agree on how to divide an intestate estate. But they 
 might. I certainly don't know.
 
 On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 16:05:10 -0700
 Volokh, Eugene vol...@law.ucla.edu wrote:
 Any thoughts about the case below?  I think I'd raised this question before 
 on the list, but the case offers an especially concrete example:
 
 
 In Alkhafaji v. TIAA-CREF Individual and Instit. Services LLC, 2010 WL 
 1435056 (Pa. Ct. Com. Pl. Jan. 14, 2010), Prof. Abbass 
 Alkhafajihttp://www.post-gazette.com/pg/07268/820267-122.stm died, and 
 left a will that apparently said, in relevant part,
 
 (4) About my pension, the beneficiaries are all my biological kids and my 
 current wife, ... after reducing all costs associated with the house 
 [The] rest of the pension, if any left, should be divided according to 
 Islamic Laws and Sharia
 
 (9) In case I have additional monetary benefits from my job, such as life 
 insurance, 401K, 403B or any other retirement funds that I am not aware of, 
 Allah as my witness, They should be divided, after costs associated with the 
 payment of those funds according to Islamic Laws and “Sharia.”
 
 The trial court entered an order that concluded with, “(1) TIAA-CREF 
 Individual and Institutional Services LLC, shall make distribution of the 
 pension accounts of the TIAA-CREF certificates ... to the decedent’s 
 surviving spouse, ... in accordance with decedent’s last will and testament 
 dated July 17, 2007, and to his biological children, ... in accordance of 
 the law of Sharia, mainly [sic], one-eighth share to the surviving spouse, 
 ... and thereafter, the remaining balance to be divided, two shares each to 
 the six male children, and one share each to the [two] female children.”
 
 
 
 This raises two questions:
 
 
 
 (1) May a court interpret a will — or a contract, deed, trust instrument, or 
 what have you — that calls for the application of religious law (whether 
 Islamic law, Jewish law, canon law, or any other religious law)? Or does the 
 Establishment Clause preclude courts from deciding what, say, Islamic law 
 actually requires, at least if there’s a controversy between the parties 
 about what the “true” interpretation of the religious law should be? Here, 
 one side argues that under Islamic law, the contested provisions of the will 
 are invalid, and that the court erred in relying on the widow’s 
 interpretation of Sharia law; to quote the appellee’s brief, 2011 WL 1573386:
 
 The Court’s determination that the pension should be distributed by giving 
 the widow one eighth of the estate, with the remainder going to the children 
 with two parts for each male and one part for each female, was not only a 
 violation of 

Re: May American court appoint only Muslim arbitrators, pursuant to an arbitration agreement?

2011-01-03 Thread verizon
I use a contract clause to arbitrate using a Christian arbitration service. The 
clause spells out the service much like one would specify AAA to arbitrate. The 
clause does not give requirements for the arbitrators, just what organization 
will arbitrate.  The reasoning is that the Bible tells Christians not to take 
their cases to secular courts.

Does that make a difference?

I was on a christian arbitration panel about 10 years ago.

Alan

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Re: Faith Base Banking

2010-05-10 Thread verizon
I think the bank was claiming something like Hebrew National's we answer to a 
higher authority.
That is, they would be more friendly, transparent, and helpful than other 
banks. Maybe they would keep the borrower from getting a loan that could not be 
repaid.

Alan

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On May 10, 2010, at 2:51 PM, Vance R. Koven wrote:

 I don't see any particular connection to religion at all here. Everybody 
 seems to be saying they were in compliance with banking regulations, the 
 securities laws and anything else they've been charged with violating. If 
 there is going to be a claim that being a religious bank means they don't 
 have to abide by whatever lending criteria the law establishes (and if they 
 were out of compliance, I'd like to know what Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac's 
 excuse was), it would strike me as both a last refuge of a scoundrel issue 
 and a possible estoppel issue if they didn't make any exemption claims when 
 obtaining their banking licenses (I don't know what regulations would apply 
 to the borrower--there are already cases that hold a bank loan is not a 
 securities transaction to which Rule 10b-5 would apply).
 
 There are, however, religious banks, in the sense of banks that apply 
 religious law to their products, chiefly Islamic banks that structure 
 products around the interest prohibition. Of course, Western banks also deal 
 in such products for clients to whom the religious prohibitions matter. 
 However, the NYT article doesn't suggest that Integrity was claiming a 
 Christian loan is one that doesn't need to be repaid.
 
 Vance
 
 On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 2:30 PM, hamilto...@aol.com wrote:
 Sounds like religious insurance.  They typically argue they should not have 
 to abide by regulations and they discriminate on the basis of religion in 
 hiring and in choosing customers
 
 As I remember there is a religious exemption for religious insurers in the 
 health care law.
 
 Marci
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 Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 11:13:12
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