RE: Law.com - 3rd Circuit Rejects Muslim Cop's Bid to Wear Religious Scarf

2009-04-08 Thread Paul Finkelman
is it because the perception of religious bias by a police officer would impact 
how the population feels; imagine she busts a non-religious Moslem woman 
without headgear?  Does this lead to a perception of unfairness; or she busts 
an Orthodox Jew in his headgear?  Seems to me any religious symbols on police 
officers undermines their authority and community relations.


Paul Finkelman
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--- On Wed, 4/8/09, David Cruz dc...@law.usc.edu wrote:


From: David Cruz dc...@law.usc.edu
Subject: RE: Law.com - 3rd Circuit Rejects Muslim Cop's Bid to Wear Religious 
Scarf
To: Law  Religion issues for Law Academics religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu, 
paul.finkel...@yahoo.com
Date: Wednesday, April 8, 2009, 11:24 AM


I don't understand why counsel would not have argued starting with the
complaint that a rule against wearing *religious* symbols or attire was
not a neutral law of general applicability and thus should receive
strict scrutiny under the federal Free Exercise Clause.

David B. Cruz
Professor of Law
University of Southern California Gould School of Law
699 Exposition Blvd.
Los Angeles, CA 90089-0071
U.S.A.

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From: religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu
[mailto:religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu] On Behalf Of Joel Sogol
Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 2:05 AM
To: Religionlaw
Subject: Law.com - 3rd Circuit Rejects Muslim Cop's Bid to Wear
Religious Scarf

A Muslim woman who works as a Philadelphia police officer has lost her
court
battle to wear a religious head scarf on the job now that the 3rd U.S.
Circuit Court of Appeals has ruled that forcing the department to
accommodate her would compromise the city's interest in maintaining
religious neutrality in its police force.

http://www.law.com/jsp/article.jsp?id=1202429736190
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Re: Law.com - 3rd Circuit Rejects Muslim Cop's Bid to Wear Religious Scarf

2009-04-08 Thread Dave Sidhu
Dear Friends,

If anyone is interested in reviewing Directive 78 (the police
department's uniform policy), I have a copy of it on my hard drive.
Please feel free to contact me directly and I will send you the file.

Also, here is a link to the Third Circuit's decision:
http://www.ca3.uscourts.gov/opinarch/073081p.pdf

Best,
Dave

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http://www.ssrn.com/Auth?_id=688955


On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 11:59 AM, Paul Finkelman
paul.finkel...@yahoo.com wrote:
 is it because the perception of religious bias by a police officer would
 impact how the population feels; imagine she busts a non-religious Moslem
 woman without headgear?  Does this lead to a perception of unfairness; or
 she busts an Orthodox Jew in his headgear?  Seems to me any religious
 symbols on police officers undermines their authority and community
 relations.

 
 Paul Finkelman
 President William McKinley Distinguished Professor of Law
 Albany Law School
 80 New Scotland Avenue
 Albany, NY 12208

 518-445-3386 (p)
 518-445-3363 (f)

 pf...@albanylaw.edu

 www.paulfinkelman.com

 --- On Wed, 4/8/09, David Cruz dc...@law.usc.edu wrote:

 From: David Cruz dc...@law.usc.edu
 Subject: RE: Law.com - 3rd Circuit Rejects Muslim Cop's Bid to Wear
 Religious Scarf
 To: Law  Religion issues for Law Academics religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu,
 paul.finkel...@yahoo.com
 Date: Wednesday, April 8, 2009, 11:24 AM

 I don't understand why counsel would not have argued starting with the
 complaint that a rule against wearing *religious* symbols or attire was
 not a neutral law of general applicability and thus should receive
 strict scrutiny under the federal Free Exercise Clause.

 David B. Cruz
 Professor of Law
 University of Southern California Gould School of Law
 699 Exposition Blvd.
 Los Angeles, CA 90089-0071
 U.S.A.

 -Original Message-
 From: religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu
 [mailto:religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu] On Behalf Of Joel Sogol
 Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 2:05 AM
 To: Religionlaw
 Subject: Law.com - 3rd Circuit Rejects Muslim Cop's Bid to Wear
 Religious Scarf

 A Muslim woman who works as a Philadelphia police officer has lost her
 court
 battle to wear a religious head scarf on the job now that the 3rd U.S.
 Circuit Court of Appeals has ruled that forcing the department to
 accommodate her would compromise the city's interest in maintaining
 religious neutrality in its police force.

 http://www.law.com/jsp/article.jsp?id=1202429736190
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RE: Law.com - 3rd Circuit Rejects Muslim Cop's Bid to Wear Religious Scarf

2009-04-08 Thread Christopher Lund
Say that Directive #78 had a ban on specifically religious attire.  (That sort 
of classification does happen.  Pennsylvania, like some other states, has a 
statute that forbids public school teachers from wearing religious garb * a 
statute that both the district and appellate court mention in Webb for 
support.)  
 
As per what Professor Cruz said earlier, is there widespread agreement that 
this rule would be invalid under the Smith/Lukumi Free Exercise Clause? 
 
I certainly think so.  But I have a hard time reconciling this with Cooper v. 
Eugene Sch. Dist., 480 U.S. 942 (1987), where the Supreme Court dismissed a 
challenge to an Oregon statute that forbade public school teachers from wearing 
religious dress.  Does anyone know what to make of Cooper in this post-Smith 
day and age?
 
Best,
Chris
 
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 dc...@law.usc.edu 4/8/2009 10:24 AM 

I don't understand why counsel would not have argued starting with the
complaint that a rule against wearing *religious* symbols or attire was
not a neutral law of general applicability and thus should receive
strict scrutiny under the federal Free Exercise Clause.

David B. Cruz
Professor of Law
University of Southern California Gould School of Law
699 Exposition Blvd.
Los Angeles, CA 90089-0071
U.S.A.

-Original Message-
From: religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu 
[mailto:religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu] On Behalf Of Joel Sogol
Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 2:05 AM
To: Religionlaw
Subject: Law.com - 3rd Circuit Rejects Muslim Cop's Bid to Wear
Religious Scarf

A Muslim woman who works as a Philadelphia police officer has lost her
court
battle to wear a religious head scarf on the job now that the 3rd U.S.
Circuit Court of Appeals has ruled that forcing the department to
accommodate her would compromise the city's interest in maintaining
religious neutrality in its police force.

http://www.law.com/jsp/article.jsp?id=1202429736190 
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