Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: IRLP TYPE BOARD LOOKING
On Wednesday 17 December 2003 08:28 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Get two 486s (cheep enough free anywhere you can find them)or a
little faster machine and set them up to dialup and use Echolink.
You can set it up to only accept connection from the other machine.
73
AC0Y
IRLP boxes can do this also and the scripts would be really easy to
modify to provide a full-time point-to-point link.
(I don't think anyone's ever published the modifications necessary for a
full-time link, but the code is there to see, and modify - unlike
EchoLink. Many folks do run semi-permanent links with the notimeout
option set and they stay connected for days and days and days and
others have timed scripts that run to reconnect them to other nodes if
their system sits idle for a certain period of time. It's amazingly
flexible if you have some idea of what you're doing. Most don't. The
downside if that your machine will not do the 3AM system software
update if it's connected at 3AM, so the smarter folks have built
scripts that tear down the connection after 3AM and force updates.
It's all pretty simple, really.)
You can also do the automatic redial on a dial-up ISP connection (or
like I did, back to my house when I needed an IP address 40 miles away
and leave it up all weekend for a demo -- I just set up my own little
dial up ISP in the basement on the second phone line for the weekend
on the other Linux box. Could'a done it with Winderz also with their
Dial-Up server stuff... all real easy to do. Hooked a small UHF
repeater to an old clunker Pentum-I in my hotel room and had a linked
repeater for the IRLP talk/demo at the Rocky Mtn. ARRL Convention last
summer. Worked fine, looked at the logs later and found that the modem
line had dropped three times, it had dialed itself back up and kept
right on running.
Although, I disagree with Coy only on one item -- I don't think either
EchoLink or IRLP will be REAL happy on all but the very fastest of
486's. (DX2/66)
It'd be better to grab a $15 Pentium-I or a $35 Pentium-II machine from
a used computer shop. I've had one of those running now with IRLP for
two years, only reboots have been power outages ('cause I'm too cheap
to put a second UPS out where that box is - my garage).
--
Nate Duehr, [EMAIL PROTECTED] - WY0X
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] IRLP TYPE BOARD LOOKING
You might look into the commercial implementation of IRLP. http://www.irlp.net/introduction.html It's point to point, IP based and uses embedded hardware instead of standard PC's. All of these systems including the NXU-2 boxes you mentioned contain a computer of some sort. I would stay away from the 486/echolink proposal though, way too much administration, how would you like to reboot your link everytime microsoft releases a patch. Steve Passmore - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 12:54 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] IRLP TYPE BOARD LOOKING This may sound crazy to some but because I'm involved a lot in linking radio systems and always looking at other ways of doing things I've recently began searching to see if anyone knows of or has a device that hangs off of a network type connection (10base-T, cable modem, DSL) and provides all the signaling needed for a repeater or link radio (ptt, COR, TX/RX Audio, etc.) I know JPS makes the NXU-2 boxes, which are IP based and when configured properly will find each other over the Internet and maintain and open channel but they cost about $1,500 per or $3,000.00 for a pair not CHEEP! Yes I know about IRLP, Echolink, and some others but what I'm looking for is a board/box like the NXU-2's that could plug into lets say a 802.11b box ether 10base-t or USB and create a stand alone network to tie these devices together that doesn't require a computer or spending $3,000.00 dollars. Any idea's or vendor information please pass it along. 73's and await the flood of information. . Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] tk-809 programming
Anyone know if the tk-809 kenwood mobiles can be programmed thru the front keys? if not anyone have a schematic of the correct programmer for this little radio? thanks KF7NN Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] tk-809 programming
--- george vagner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone know if the tk-809 kenwood mobiles can be programmed thru the front keys? if not anyone have a schematic of the correct programmer for this little radio? thanks KF7NN It takes the same cable as the other Kenwood commercial mobiles, and the KPG20D software. Cables are available on e-bay for about $30, more or less. Joe __ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] IRLP TYPE BOARD LOOKING
can pass it reliably enough. I have a couple of off brand boxes like the multitechs that were $150 each. Net2Phone has a 2 port unit that would require an account with them but, it would not cost to call from unit to unit. It is $200 ea. here. Pretty similar to a Cisco ata186. Our club is trying to link a couple of repeaters using Cisco ata186's. Not sure how progess is going with it. The difficulty I see is passing PTT/COS over a plain voice connection and having the VoIP hardware automatically connect and reconnect without user intervention. Adi -- Adi Linden | va3adi | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://adis.ca +-+ IRLP Node 2590 in Sioux Lookout, Ontario Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Ever so slightly off topic ... Channel Element info ...
JOHN MACKEY wrote: hmmm... I would have to check my books, but didn't the low band motran use a different channel element than the low band motrac on transmit? (Or did they BOTH use the TLN-1082?) I ... hmmm ... I'll have to look. I did some research on that specific issue some months back - but it is now on the computer in the garage. Well, I did look ... and printed it out ... ( Now the fun begins ... ) Any Motrac model numbers ending in 'HHT' use crystal ovens to maintain the FCC type acceptance - and are not covered below. Since the current discussion is about Channel Elements, the following is by Channel Elements and for the low band Motrac/Motran series radios: ChannelRadioModelRec /Number of Tol. ElementSeries Series TransChannels* TLN1020A U41LLTA Motran Receive 1 Freq 0.0005% TLN1020A U61LLTA Motran Receive 1 Freq 0.0005% TLN1020A B61LPB Motrac Base Sta Receive 1 Freq 0.0005% TLN1020A J61LPB Motrac Base Sta Receive 1 Freq 0.0005% TLN1020A B71LPB Motrac Base Sta Receive 1 Freq 0.0005% TLN1020A J71LPB Motrac Base Sta Receive 1 Freq 0.0005% TLN1021A U41LLTA Motran Receive 2 Freq 0.0005% TLN1021A U51LLTA Motran Receive 2 Freq 0.0005% TLN1022A U41LLTA Motran Transmit 1 Freq 0.0005% TLN1022A U51LLTA Motran Transmit 1 Freq 0.0005% TLN1022A B61LPB Motrac Base Sta Transmit 1 Freq 0.0005% TLN1022A J61LPB Motrac Base Sta Transmit 1 Freq 0.0005% TLN1022A B71LPB Motrac Base Sta Transmit 1 Freq 0.0005% TLN1022A J71LPB Motrac Base Sta Transmit 1 Freq 0.0005% TLN1023A U41LLTA Motran Transmit 2 Freq 0.0005% TLN1023A U51LLTA Motran Transmit 2 Freq 0.0005% TLN1023A B61LPB Motrac Base Sta Transmit 2 Freq 0.0005% TLN1023A J61LPB Motrac Base Sta Transmit 2 Freq 0.0005% TLN1023A B71LPB Motrac Base Sta Transmit 2 Freq 0.0005% TLN1023A J71LPB Motrac Base Sta Transmit 2 Freq 0.0005% TLN1049A B61LPB Motrac Base Sta Receive 2nd Receivr 0.0005% TLN1049A J61LPB Motrac Base Sta Receive 2nd Receivr 0.0005% TLN1049A B71LPB Motrac Base Sta Receive 2nd Receivr 0.0005% TLN1049A J71LPB Motrac Base Sta Receive 2nd Receivr 0.0005% TLN1081A,B C71LHB Motrac Compa Ba Receive 0.0005% TLN1081A U41LHT Motrac Receive 0.0005% TLN1081A U51LHT Motrac Receive 0.0005% TLN1081A U71LHT Motrac Receive 0.0005% TLN1081A N01LNB Satellite Rec'r Receive 0.0005% TLN1081A U41LLTB Motran Receive 0.0005% TLN1081A U51LLTB Motran Receive 0.0005% TLN1081A B61LPB Motrac Base Sta Receive 0.0005% TLN1081A B71LPB Motrac Base Sta Receive 0.0005% TLN1081A B91LPB Motrac Base Sta Receive 0.0005% TLN1082A,B U41BBA Mocom-70 Transmit 0.0005% TLN1082A,B U61BBA Mocom-70 Transmit 0.0005% TLN1082A,B U71BBA Mocom-70 Transmit 0.0005% TLN1082A U51BBN Mocom-70 Transmit 0.0005% TLN1082A,B C71LHB Motrac Compa Ba Transmit 0.0005% TLN1082A U41LHT Motrac Transmit 0.0005% TLN1082A U51LHT Motrac Transmit 0.0005% TLN1082A U71LHT Motrac Transmit 0.0005% TLN1082A U41LLTB Motran Transmit 0.0005% TLN1082A U51LLTB Motran Transmit 0.0005% TLN1082A B61LPB Motrac Base Sta Transmit 0.0005% TLN1082A B71LPB Motrac Base Sta Transmit 0.0005% TLN1082A B91LPB Motrac Base Sta Transmit 0.0005% TLN1085A B61LPB Motrac Base Sta Receive 0.0005% TLN1085A B71LPB Motrac Base Sta Receive 0.0005% TLN1085A B91LPB Motrac Base Sta Receive 0.0005% Note: TLN1085A Channel Element is used in the second receiver of two receiver stations - late model stations - IF = 2.54 MHz TLN1086A C71LHB Motrac Compa Ba Receive 0.0002% TLN1086A U41LHT Motrac Receive 0.0002% TLN1086A U51LHT Motrac Receive 0.0002% TLN1086A U71LHT Motrac Receive 0.0002% TLN1086A B61LPB Motrac Base Sta Receive 0.0002% TLN1086A B71LPB Motrac Base Sta Receive 0.0002% TLN1086A B91LPB Motrac Base Sta Receive 0.0002% TLN1087A C71LHB Motrac Compa Ba Transmit 0.0002% TLN1087A U41LHT Motrac
Re: [Repeater-Builder] IRLP TYPE BOARD LOOKING
The only way I have seen to do this is with CTCSS/DCS but, I am not sure they can pass it reliably enough. I have a couple of off brand boxes like the multitechs that were $150 each. Net2Phone has a 2 port unit that would require an account with them but, it would not cost to call from unit to unit. It is $200 ea. here. Not sure of the audio quality. Think I will get a couple to test with. Joe Montierth wrote: --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This may sound crazy to some but because I'm involved a lot in linking radio systems and always looking at other ways of doing things I've recently began searching to see if anyone knows of or has a device that hangs off of a "network" type connection (10base-T, cable modem, DSL) and provides all the signaling needed for a repeater or link radio (ptt, COR, TX/RX Audio, etc.) I know JPS makes the NXU-2 boxes, which are IP based and when configured properly will find each other over the Internet and maintain and "open channel" but they cost about $1,500 per or $3,000.00 for a pair not CHEEP! Yes I know about IRLP, Echolink, and some others but what I'm looking for is a board/box like the NXU-2's that could plug into lets say a 802.11b box ether 10base-t or USB and create a stand alone network to tie these devices together that doesn't require a computer or spending $3,000.00 dollars. Any idea's or vendor information please pass it along. 73's and await the flood of information. . Multi tech makes a VOIP product that may work for you. It is designed to work with telephone equipment, and the boxes bigger than 2 ports have EM signalling, which could tie directly to the radio equipment to provide PTT and COR signalling. Here is a link to one vendor, a lot of companies sell their products. http://www.wireless-computer-networking.com/store/PPF/parameters/240_106/more_info.asp Its about half price of the other units you mentioned, but still pretty pricy. If their single port box had EM signalling, it could be used, but it only supports POTS type operation. Joe __ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[Repeater-Builder] UHF Duplexer required x 2 also a 2nd hand Doug Hall Radio voter
Hi All, Does anyone have a couple of UHF (suitable for 430Mhz) duplexers surplus to requirements, and are willing to sell?? These are for a full duplex link at 9Mhz spacing on RX/TX Please bare in mind the cost for postage as I will require them to be mailed to New Zealand. Also I am looking for a Doug Hall radio voter (4 ch). 2nd hand would be okay. Any information, and pricing please e-mail me directly to keep the group free. Regards Kevin, ZL1UDD. [EMAIL PROTECTED] e-mail only Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Ever so slightly off topic ... Channel Element info ...]
Neil - Does this include the 12 channel UHF fully solid state Motran? Which I believe was 16 watts output, called the T44MSN? (it came with the solid state antenna switch which come people confused for a duplexer) Neil McKie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SNIP The UHF Motran uses the 'S' exciter TLN1146A (0.0005%) or the TLN1190A (0.0002%) or the two piece version (0.0005%) SNIP Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Hi Speed DTMF (2)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: is called latchup. That is what happens to an CMOS IC when you go out of MAXIMUM specs on VCC. This is the only CMOS IC I have had it happen on. Does it on all varients, 202, 204, 22204 Mc141???. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] New Pics.. (Owner asks you to Please Read)
Here's the deal We get about 100 attempted porn posts each week on this reflector. One of my moderators banned this person and then inadvertently hit the Approve message button instead of the Reject one. The buttons are right beside one another and it is EASY to hit the wrong one. This is only the second miscue in several months since we started moderating new members. Please let it go and accept our apology as we try to run the best repeater reflector. You don't see most of the crap that is attempted to be posted, but realize we are only human too. Kevin Custer Multi-List Owner Please don't reply on the reflector about this message or subject. As always, personal email accepted. Paul Finch wrote: This is probably a porn site, the ISP normally finds out about sites like these and shuts them down most of the time before you can even get to them. These people are sick, especially when they subscribe to a group like this one. Paul Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Link Receivers and LDG RVS-8
Hi Everybody! I have a couple of our Club members that want to experiment with some linking and the RVS-8 voter. They want to play with some cross-banding radios to a few link receivers and then thevoter. After a long discussion I came up with a few questions that I want to ask the group: 1. Are there any group of radios that make better link receivers than others? There are lots of surplus rock bound UHF Moto radios out here, (Moxy, Maxar, Flexar) For those of you that have played with these, any pro's and con's? Conversion? COR? PL decode, stripping PL and encoding? Cystal/Channel Element cost? Flat Audio? Interfacing with voters? 2. I've converted my fair share of Micor's and Mastr II's over the years. Is there any benefit in using these radios over those other radios or would I be better off playing with say, some Spectra Tac receivers? The last thing I want to do is reinvent the wheel! The group's expertise is a good thing! I personally like a stand alone repeater, but the guys want to experiment, so I want to point them in the right direction, so any thoughts would be great! Happy Holidays! 73, Brian, WD9HSY Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
