[Repeater-Builder] Micor for 900 mhz

2004-10-26 Thread Al Wolfe

Anyone know how much trouble it is to put an 800 mhz Micor base up into 
the 902 ham band? Is it worth the effort?

73,
Al, K9SI 





 
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I am a new member with a question.  We have the opportunity to replace 
our present pieced together 2 meter repeater with a Micon, which is 
offered at a better than believable price.  We will need crystals, 
however.  Can anyone give me the approximate cost of a set of crystal 
units for this endeavor?

I can't give you the model number as I haven't viewed the repeater yet. 
It is in working condition, however.

Too, any good leads on a set of replacement duplexers for 2 meters? 
Must be operational and cheap!!

Will appreciate any and all assistance.
Gene Ferguson, W4FWG
Fairfield, KY


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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: maggiore's service

2004-10-26 Thread russ

I know the local Kenwood shop will work on the Maggiore stuff. (Cook Towers)
along with many outer brands. Like it was said the shop side of a two way
shop brings in the bread and butter.
73 Russ,
W3CH

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From: "skipp025" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 12:27 PM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: maggiore's service


>
>
> Hi Joe,
>
> Any good repair shop will probably work on anything
> they have parts and service information (manual) for.
>
> As you probably know, I'm a Kenwood Dealer and
> Authorized Repair Center, but we'll pretty much
> work on anything or honestly tell you if it's
> not practical or a lost cause.
>
> A lost cause would be the repair of a VHF
> Engineering Receiver Strip at the shop service
> rate.
>
> Unless a Dealer is moving a lot of radios via
> the sales side of the business, Service is still
> a big part of the bread and butter at many
> smaller operations.
>
> As a service to my walk in customers, I will even
> handle getting other brand service work done,
> where possible at another brand dealer. A lot
> of customers are happy to pay for someone else to
> do their "leg work".  It all comes down to the
> shop rate or the repair quote.
>
> cheers,
> skipp
> www.radiowrench.com
>
> > Joe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I have a UHF Maggiore that has played well for years
> > on a very high site, but I think that I have been
> > lucky in regards to it's performance.  I don't see
> > much interstage shielding and wonder what would happen
> > if I was at an "RF crowded" site.  There's not much
> > happening, RF wise, at the site that I am presently on
> > so it has performed well for me.
> >
> > My main concern mentioned in my last email was
> > maintenance issues.  I do my own repairs, so that is
> > not an issue for me.  If I had a failure and did not
> > do repairs, I would be limited to only one repair
> > location (Maggiore factory).  Most 2-way shops would
> > probably not want to work on the Maggiore, or would
> > want to charge time & parts.  This can get very
> > expensive and time consuming, causing the repair price
> > to go up and downtime to be very long.  Sticking to
> > Kenwood, Yaesu, Motorola, or another common 2-way
> > product would give you more choices for repair and
> > faster turn-around time.
> >
> > 73, Joe, K1ike
> >
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: maggiore's service

2004-10-26 Thread skipp025


Hi Joe, 

Any good repair shop will probably work on anything 
they have parts and service information (manual) for. 

As you probably know, I'm a Kenwood Dealer and 
Authorized Repair Center, but we'll pretty much 
work on anything or honestly tell you if it's 
not practical or a lost cause. 

A lost cause would be the repair of a VHF 
Engineering Receiver Strip at the shop service 
rate. 

Unless a Dealer is moving a lot of radios via 
the sales side of the business, Service is still 
a big part of the bread and butter at many 
smaller operations. 

As a service to my walk in customers, I will even 
handle getting other brand service work done, 
where possible at another brand dealer. A lot 
of customers are happy to pay for someone else to 
do their "leg work".  It all comes down to the 
shop rate or the repair quote.

cheers, 
skipp 
www.radiowrench.com 

> Joe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have a UHF Maggiore that has played well for years
> on a very high site, but I think that I have been
> lucky in regards to it's performance.  I don't see
> much interstage shielding and wonder what would happen
> if I was at an "RF crowded" site.  There's not much
> happening, RF wise, at the site that I am presently on
> so it has performed well for me.
> 
> My main concern mentioned in my last email was
> maintenance issues.  I do my own repairs, so that is
> not an issue for me.  If I had a failure and did not
> do repairs, I would be limited to only one repair
> location (Maggiore factory).  Most 2-way shops would
> probably not want to work on the Maggiore, or would
> want to charge time & parts.  This can get very
> expensive and time consuming, causing the repair price
> to go up and downtime to be very long.  Sticking to
> Kenwood, Yaesu, Motorola, or another common 2-way
> product would give you more choices for repair and
> faster turn-around time.
> 
> 73, Joe, K1ike
> 







 
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Tait t800

2004-10-26 Thread W9DHI

The last used one I sold with the 100 watt amp and switch mode power supply
all in the rack frame went for $800.00.  This is the Sierra Series...the
synthesized ones that came out in about 1991.  The early ones you had to
blow a 27c256, the newer ones have eeproms and they can program from the RJ
jack on the rear of the frame.


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-Original Message-
From: Jeff DePolo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 10:45 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Tait t800



I have a Tait T800 series UHF repeater with the factory 100 watt (?)
amp.  What do they go for on the used market?  I have one in the garage
that I never got around to playing with and keep meaning to put it on
Ebay.

--- Jeff

> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 11:06 AM
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> Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Tait t800
> 
> The T800 is a series of tait repeater.  They are very high 
> spec and well built and modular.  

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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Tait t800

2004-10-26 Thread W9DHI

Yep just find a Tait dealer that will work with you.  If you can't find one
let me know and I'll link you up with a friend that is still in the Biz.


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-Original Message-
From: Jed Barton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 10:21 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Tait t800


Hey Greg, this club is looking for a 220 box.
They wanna be able to do flat audio and all of that fun stuff.
That sound doable?

Thanks,
Jed

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Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 10:06 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Tait t800



The T800 is a series of tait repeater.  They are very high spec and well
built and modular.  We have used them for everything under the sun,
repeaters, links, paging transmitters and the such.  I've used them on
VHF Hi Band, UHF , 800 and 900.  I also had one on 220 that I sold to a
friend who has it operating on the 220 ham band now (it was on 217
nbfm). Depending on configuration and power levels the price will vary,
but they are competitive for what they are...more expensive than Kenwood
but cheaper than Motorola.


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K2/100 S#3075 KX1 S# 57
Member:  ARRL, RSGB, RCA, WERA and ORC
 


-Original Message-
From: Jim B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 10:04 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Tait t800


Jed Barton wrote:

> Hey guys,
> I got a phone call last night from one of the clubs and they want to 
> get a tait 800 repeater. I guess they just got a ton of cash, and want

> to have some fun. Any opinions good, bad or indifferent?
> Personally I think they could get away with something like a hipro,
but
> I am not the deciding factor. 
> Anyone know how much one of these taits costs?
> Any info would be appreciated.
> Thanks,
> Jed

First off, there is no ham band at 800. Do you mean 900? There is some 
Tait equipment that will work on the 900 ham band.
There is no Hi-Pro for 900, but even if there was, it would be at least 
as expensive as the Tait, and would give you a bunch more problems.

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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Tait t800

2004-10-26 Thread Jeff DePolo


I have a Tait T800 series UHF repeater with the factory 100 watt (?)
amp.  What do they go for on the used market?  I have one in the garage
that I never got around to playing with and keep meaning to put it on
Ebay.

--- Jeff

> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 11:06 AM
> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Tait t800
> 
> The T800 is a series of tait repeater.  They are very high 
> spec and well built and modular.  

> Gregg R. Lengling, W9DHI, Retired
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> K2/100 S#3075 KX1 S# 57
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT- Computer related link

2004-10-26 Thread Jim B.

Neil McKie wrote:
> 
>   Turn on your speakers ... 
> 
> John wrote:
> 
>>http://www.rio.com.br/animation/iconstory.htm
>>

Too funny. I play Diablo, well, D2 with the LoD expansion pack. Good way 
to take out some aggresions. ;c}
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Tait t800

2004-10-26 Thread Jed Barton

Hey Greg, this club is looking for a 220 box.
They wanna be able to do flat audio and all of that fun stuff.
That sound doable?

Thanks,
Jed

-Original Message-
From: W9DHI [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 10:06 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Tait t800



The T800 is a series of tait repeater.  They are very high spec and well
built and modular.  We have used them for everything under the sun,
repeaters, links, paging transmitters and the such.  I've used them on
VHF Hi Band, UHF , 800 and 900.  I also had one on 220 that I sold to a
friend who has it operating on the 220 ham band now (it was on 217
nbfm). Depending on configuration and power levels the price will vary,
but they are competitive for what they are...more expensive than Kenwood
but cheaper than Motorola.


Gregg R. Lengling, W9DHI, Retired
Administrator http://www.milwaukeehdtv.org
K2/100 S#3075 KX1 S# 57
Member:  ARRL, RSGB, RCA, WERA and ORC
 


-Original Message-
From: Jim B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 10:04 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Tait t800


Jed Barton wrote:

> Hey guys,
> I got a phone call last night from one of the clubs and they want to 
> get a tait 800 repeater. I guess they just got a ton of cash, and want

> to have some fun. Any opinions good, bad or indifferent?
> Personally I think they could get away with something like a hipro,
but
> I am not the deciding factor. 
> Anyone know how much one of these taits costs?
> Any info would be appreciated.
> Thanks,
> Jed

First off, there is no ham band at 800. Do you mean 900? There is some 
Tait equipment that will work on the 900 ham band.
There is no Hi-Pro for 900, but even if there was, it would be at least 
as expensive as the Tait, and would give you a bunch more problems.

-- 
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WD8CHL





 
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[Repeater-Builder] Need Motorola TPN1041B

2004-10-26 Thread wn1b8


We had a major transformer failure this last week and had to put the 
spare power supply in.  As a result, we're looking for a good 
Motorola TPN1041B power supply or a good 25D8274H01 transformer.  
These are used in the 200, 250, and 300 watt Metropolitan tube PAs. 
If anyone has one for sale that is within reasonable driving 
distance of Detroit, please drop me an e-mail.

Thanks,

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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Tait t800

2004-10-26 Thread W9DHI

The T800 is a series of tait repeater.  They are very high spec and well
built and modular.  We have used them for everything under the sun,
repeaters, links, paging transmitters and the such.  I've used them on VHF
Hi Band, UHF , 800 and 900.  I also had one on 220 that I sold to a friend
who has it operating on the 220 ham band now (it was on 217 nbfm).
Depending on configuration and power levels the price will vary, but they
are competitive for what they are...more expensive than Kenwood but cheaper
than Motorola.


Gregg R. Lengling, W9DHI, Retired
Administrator http://www.milwaukeehdtv.org
K2/100 S#3075 KX1 S# 57
Member:  ARRL, RSGB, RCA, WERA and ORC
 


-Original Message-
From: Jim B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 10:04 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Tait t800


Jed Barton wrote:

> Hey guys,
> I got a phone call last night from one of the clubs and they want to get
> a tait 800 repeater.
> I guess they just got a ton of cash, and want to have some fun.
> Any opinions good, bad or indifferent? 
> Personally I think they could get away with something like a hipro, but
> I am not the deciding factor. 
> Anyone know how much one of these taits costs?
> Any info would be appreciated.
> Thanks,
> Jed

First off, there is no ham band at 800. Do you mean 900? There is some 
Tait equipment that will work on the 900 ham band.
There is no Hi-Pro for 900, but even if there was, it would be at least 
as expensive as the Tait, and would give you a bunch more problems.

-- 
Jim Barbour
WD8CHL





 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] maggiore's service

2004-10-26 Thread David Robichaux

Thanks for the good advice. I'll cnsider all options when the time
comes.
73 K5EYP

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Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] maggiore's service
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 06:22:01 -0700 (PDT)

>
>I have a UHF Maggiore that has played well for years
>on a very high site, but I think that I have been
>lucky in regards to it's performance.  I don't see
>much interstage shielding and wonder what would happen
>if I was at an "RF crowded" site.  There's not much
>happening, RF wise, at the site that I am presently on
>so it has performed well for me.
>
>My main concern mentioned in my last email was
>maintenance issues.  I do my own repairs, so that is
>not an issue for me.  If I had a failure and did not
>do repairs, I would be limited to only one repair
>location (Maggiore factory).  Most 2-way shops would
>probably not want to work on the Maggiore, or would
>want to charge time & parts.  This can get very
>expensive and time consuming, causing the repair price
>to go up and downtime to be very long.  Sticking to
>Kenwood, Yaesu, Motorola, or another common 2-way
>product would give you more choices for repair and
>faster turn-around time.
>
>73, Joe, K1ike
>
>--- skipp025 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> 
>> 
>> The last unit I had Maggiore make, was a custome 
>> build. Not only did they do the work fast, it was 
>> all first rate soldering and hardware. 
>> 
>> Service seems to be pretty good for Hi-Pro stuff. 
>> 
>> cheers, 
>> 
>> skippp
>> 
>> > Joe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > If you have a technical staff available to do your
>> > repairs, a repeater such as the Hi-Pro may be
>> > suitable. (Although I would personally recommend
>> one).
>> >  If you are planning on sending the repeater back
>> to
>> > the manufacturer for any future repairs, Kenwood,
>> > Motorola, Icom, or some other similar brand would
>> be
>> > more suitable and easier to get repaired.
>> > 
>> > 73, Joe, k1ike
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Tait t800

2004-10-26 Thread Jim B.

Jed Barton wrote:

> Hey guys,
> I got a phone call last night from one of the clubs and they want to get
> a tait 800 repeater.
> I guess they just got a ton of cash, and want to have some fun.
> Any opinions good, bad or indifferent? 
> Personally I think they could get away with something like a hipro, but
> I am not the deciding factor. 
> Anyone know how much one of these taits costs?
> Any info would be appreciated.
> Thanks,
> Jed

First off, there is no ham band at 800. Do you mean 900? There is some 
Tait equipment that will work on the 900 ham band.
There is no Hi-Pro for 900, but even if there was, it would be at least 
as expensive as the Tait, and would give you a bunch more problems.

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WD8CHL





 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mitrex repeater

2004-10-26 Thread Jim B.

John Place wrote:

> I am looking for receiver and transmitter diagrams of the Mitrex 
> repeater. I would like to compare these with the ones on the repeater 
> builder site to see what needs to be changed to bring the unit down to 
> 441 mhz.
> 

Mitrex? Never heard of it. There is a Mitrek mobile, and they can be 
duplexed and used as a repeater.

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Tait t800

2004-10-26 Thread bradley glen

Hi Jed

Used them commercially for many years and many
Maritime services use them as a standard.

Good sound repeater with many ways to configure and
have built in audio AGC -compressor etc.

A good choice for a range of different applications.
Modular , and there is a slimline type availible.

Have a look at the Tait wesite.
Regards

Bradley Glen  ZS5WT
--- Jed Barton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> Hey guys,
> I got a phone call last night from one of the clubs
> and they want to get
> a tait 800 repeater.
> I guess they just got a ton of cash, and want to
> have some fun.
> Any opinions good, bad or indifferent? 
> Personally I think they could get away with
> something like a hipro, but
> I am not the deciding factor. 
> Anyone know how much one of these taits costs?
> Any info would be appreciated.
> Thanks,
> Jed
> 
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[Repeater-Builder] Tait t800

2004-10-26 Thread Jed Barton

Hey guys,
I got a phone call last night from one of the clubs and they want to get
a tait 800 repeater.
I guess they just got a ton of cash, and want to have some fun.
Any opinions good, bad or indifferent? 
Personally I think they could get away with something like a hipro, but
I am not the deciding factor. 
Anyone know how much one of these taits costs?
Any info would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Jed





 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] maggiore's service

2004-10-26 Thread Joe

I have a UHF Maggiore that has played well for years
on a very high site, but I think that I have been
lucky in regards to it's performance.  I don't see
much interstage shielding and wonder what would happen
if I was at an "RF crowded" site.  There's not much
happening, RF wise, at the site that I am presently on
so it has performed well for me.

My main concern mentioned in my last email was
maintenance issues.  I do my own repairs, so that is
not an issue for me.  If I had a failure and did not
do repairs, I would be limited to only one repair
location (Maggiore factory).  Most 2-way shops would
probably not want to work on the Maggiore, or would
want to charge time & parts.  This can get very
expensive and time consuming, causing the repair price
to go up and downtime to be very long.  Sticking to
Kenwood, Yaesu, Motorola, or another common 2-way
product would give you more choices for repair and
faster turn-around time.

73, Joe, K1ike

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> to
> > the manufacturer for any future repairs, Kenwood,
> > Motorola, Icom, or some other similar brand would
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Re: Fw: [Repeater-Builder] Direct TV type dish?

2004-10-26 Thread Neil McKie


  Thank you for your opinion ...  

  Neil 


Tony King - W4ZT wrote:
> 
> Oh what a waste, Neil ;)
> 
> 73, Tony W4ZT
> 
> At 11:57 PM 10/25/2004, Neil McKie wrote:
> 
> >   I got a 5' one outside in the shed - am thinking about making
> >  a bird bath out of it.
> >
> >   One problem though, how to keep it from freezing ...
> >
> >   Neil
> >
> >
> >Tony King - W4ZT wrote:
> > >
> > > Use a multiswitch.
> > >
> > > I'm working on a 48" dish right now for looking at 101 alone ;)  Hope
> > > to be rid of a LOT of rain fade.
> > >
> > > 73, Tony W4ZT
> > >
> > > At 09:00 PM 10/23/2004, you wrote:
> > >
> > > > Tom,
> > > >
> > > > a little help here?   if I am going to look at sat. A  and sat. B
> > > > with 2 dish's  is there a way to hook them into the same input on
> > > > one receiver?
> > > >
> > > > thanks John  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > - Original Message -
> > > > From: TGundo 2003
> > > > To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2004 11:16 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Direct TV type dish?
> > > >
> > > > I work for a high-end Custom home electronics company and deal with
> > > > directv all of the time. Heres a few bits you may or may not find
> > > > intresting.
> > > >
> > > > 1. Rain fade. Want to limit this? Put up three 1 meter dishes to
> > > > look at the birds and have better signal reception. Yes, its an
> > > > eyesore, but you hardly ever get rain fade!. The dishes are getting
> > > > smaller and looking at three different positions in the sky, so they
> > > > give up gain with the dish itself to look at all of these at the
> > > > same time. They get away with this because the birds themselves are
> > > > relativly high power. You can use up to a 1 meter dish to look at
> > > > any one position in the sky and get much better signal, but not any
> > > > bigger because again, the dish is too focused, At the 101 degree
> > > > position there are actually three satellites which if I remember
> > > > right are about 50 miles apart from each other in orbit, but at
> > > > 24000 miles away thats virtually a single point in the sky from
> > > > here. However, a dish bigger than 1 meter can single out one of the
> > > > satellites. For you who have directv and have looked at your signal
> > > > meter, with a 1 meter dish setup almost all of the transp! onders
> > > > will read 100 all of the time with clear skys or even light clouds,
> > > > and you hear toto flying by when rain fade actually knocks the
> > > > signal out all together.
> > > >
> > > > 2. For long runs or commercial installs the standard is RG-11 coax
> > > > to maintain signal level. There are amplifiers used for this as
> > > > well. Stacker systems are becoming more common in MDU and high rise
> > > > buildings. Basically, conventional satellite systems work 900 to
> > > > 1500 as noted in a previously. The issue is that the reciever has to
> > > > send a signal to the dish to switch between the a and b lnbs to look
> > > > at the different birds, they cant both come down the line at the
> > > > same time because they are both oviously coming down at the same
> > > > frequency. You cannot just "split" the signal to multiple recievers
> > > > because they would battle for control over the dish as channels are
> > > > changed. Because of that distribution of that to dozens of recievers
> > > > in a large building starts to get complicated because of  the
> > > > voltage switches needed to facilitate the switching. The Stacker
> > > > system sends the second dish feed down at 1500- 2 gig, so that all
> > > > of the signals are on the line at the same time,! a on 900-1500, b
> > > > on 1500 - 2000. Many of the recievers out there already have tuners
> > > > built in that can accept the wideband input, just a simple trip into
> > > > the service menu on the box and turn it on! Now we can amplify and
> > > > split as needed to feed as many as you want! But RG-11 and 2 gig
> > > > rated splitters and amps are a must.
> > > >
> > > > Thats my two cents on the matter.
> > > >
> > > > Tom
> > > > W9SRV
> > > >
> > > > bob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > > >  > Date: 2004/10/15 Fri AM 02:00:59 GMT
> > > >  > To:
> > > >  > Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Direct TV type dish?
> > > >  >
> > > >  >
> > > >  > Hey Does any one know what frequency that the coax line
> > > >  coming from the LNB's to the receiver is? On direct TV.
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[Repeater-Builder] OT- Computer related link

2004-10-26 Thread Neil McKie


  Turn on your speakers ... 

John wrote:
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> http://www.rio.com.br/animation/iconstory.htm
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[Repeater-Builder] Mitrex repeater

2004-10-26 Thread John Place

I am looking for receiver and transmitter diagrams of the Mitrex 
repeater. I would like to compare these with the ones on the repeater 
builder site to see what needs to be changed to bring the unit down to 
441 mhz.





 
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Re: Fw: [Repeater-Builder] Direct TV type dish?

2004-10-26 Thread Tony King - W4ZT

Oh what a waste, Neil ;)

73, Tony W4ZT

At 11:57 PM 10/25/2004, Neil McKie wrote:


>   I got a 5' one outside in the shed - am thinking about making
>  a bird bath out of it.
>
>   One problem though, how to keep it from freezing ...
>
>   Neil
>
>
>Tony King - W4ZT wrote:
> >
> > Use a multiswitch.
> >
> > I'm working on a 48" dish right now for looking at 101 alone ;)  Hope
> > to be rid of a LOT of rain fade.
> >
> > 73, Tony W4ZT
> >
> > At 09:00 PM 10/23/2004, you wrote:
> >
> > > Tom,
> > >
> > > a little help here?   if I am going to look at sat. A  and sat. B
> > > with 2 dish's  is there a way to hook them into the same input on
> > > one receiver?
> > >
> > > thanks John  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> > >
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: TGundo 2003
> > > To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2004 11:16 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Direct TV type dish?
> > >
> > > I work for a high-end Custom home electronics company and deal with
> > > directv all of the time. Heres a few bits you may or may not find
> > > intresting.
> > >
> > > 1. Rain fade. Want to limit this? Put up three 1 meter dishes to
> > > look at the birds and have better signal reception. Yes, its an
> > > eyesore, but you hardly ever get rain fade!. The dishes are getting
> > > smaller and looking at three different positions in the sky, so they
> > > give up gain with the dish itself to look at all of these at the
> > > same time. They get away with this because the birds themselves are
> > > relativly high power. You can use up to a 1 meter dish to look at
> > > any one position in the sky and get much better signal, but not any
> > > bigger because again, the dish is too focused, At the 101 degree
> > > position there are actually three satellites which if I remember
> > > right are about 50 miles apart from each other in orbit, but at
> > > 24000 miles away thats virtually a single point in the sky from
> > > here. However, a dish bigger than 1 meter can single out one of the
> > > satellites. For you who have directv and have looked at your signal
> > > meter, with a 1 meter dish setup almost all of the transp! onders
> > > will read 100 all of the time with clear skys or even light clouds,
> > > and you hear toto flying by when rain fade actually knocks the
> > > signal out all together.
> > >
> > > 2. For long runs or commercial installs the standard is RG-11 coax
> > > to maintain signal level. There are amplifiers used for this as
> > > well. Stacker systems are becoming more common in MDU and high rise
> > > buildings. Basically, conventional satellite systems work 900 to
> > > 1500 as noted in a previously. The issue is that the reciever has to
> > > send a signal to the dish to switch between the a and b lnbs to look
> > > at the different birds, they cant both come down the line at the
> > > same time because they are both oviously coming down at the same
> > > frequency. You cannot just "split" the signal to multiple recievers
> > > because they would battle for control over the dish as channels are
> > > changed. Because of that distribution of that to dozens of recievers
> > > in a large building starts to get complicated because of  the
> > > voltage switches needed to facilitate the switching. The Stacker
> > > system sends the second dish feed down at 1500- 2 gig, so that all
> > > of the signals are on the line at the same time,! a on 900-1500, b
> > > on 1500 - 2000. Many of the recievers out there already have tuners
> > > built in that can accept the wideband input, just a simple trip into
> > > the service menu on the box and turn it on! Now we can amplify and
> > > split as needed to feed as many as you want! But RG-11 and 2 gig
> > > rated splitters and amps are a must.
> > >
> > > Thats my two cents on the matter.
> > >
> > > Tom
> > > W9SRV
> > >
> > > bob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >  >
> > >  > From: "russ"
> > >  > Date: 2004/10/15 Fri AM 02:00:59 GMT
> > >  > To:
> > >  > Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Direct TV type dish?
> > >  >
> > >  >
> > >  > Hey Does any one know what frequency that the coax line
> > >  coming from the LNB's to the receiver is? On direct TV.
> > >  > 73 Russ, W3CH
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Re: Fw: [Repeater-Builder] Direct TV type dish?

2004-10-26 Thread Neil McKie


  I got a 5' one outside in the shed - am thinking about making 
 a bird bath out of it.  

  One problem though, how to keep it from freezing ... 

  Neil 


Tony King - W4ZT wrote:
> 
> Use a multiswitch.
> 
> I'm working on a 48" dish right now for looking at 101 alone ;)  Hope
> to be rid of a LOT of rain fade.
> 
> 73, Tony W4ZT
> 
> At 09:00 PM 10/23/2004, you wrote:
> 
> > Tom,
> >
> > a little help here?   if I am going to look at sat. A  and sat. B
> > with 2 dish's  is there a way to hook them into the same input on
> > one receiver?
> >
> > thanks John  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: TGundo 2003
> > To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2004 11:16 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Direct TV type dish?
> >
> > I work for a high-end Custom home electronics company and deal with
> > directv all of the time. Heres a few bits you may or may not find
> > intresting.
> >
> > 1. Rain fade. Want to limit this? Put up three 1 meter dishes to
> > look at the birds and have better signal reception. Yes, its an
> > eyesore, but you hardly ever get rain fade!. The dishes are getting
> > smaller and looking at three different positions in the sky, so they
> > give up gain with the dish itself to look at all of these at the
> > same time. They get away with this because the birds themselves are
> > relativly high power. You can use up to a 1 meter dish to look at
> > any one position in the sky and get much better signal, but not any
> > bigger because again, the dish is too focused, At the 101 degree
> > position there are actually three satellites which if I remember
> > right are about 50 miles apart from each other in orbit, but at
> > 24000 miles away thats virtually a single point in the sky from
> > here. However, a dish bigger than 1 meter can single out one of the
> > satellites. For you who have directv and have looked at your signal
> > meter, with a 1 meter dish setup almost all of the transp! onders
> > will read 100 all of the time with clear skys or even light clouds,
> > and you hear toto flying by when rain fade actually knocks the
> > signal out all together.
> >
> > 2. For long runs or commercial installs the standard is RG-11 coax
> > to maintain signal level. There are amplifiers used for this as
> > well. Stacker systems are becoming more common in MDU and high rise
> > buildings. Basically, conventional satellite systems work 900 to
> > 1500 as noted in a previously. The issue is that the reciever has to
> > send a signal to the dish to switch between the a and b lnbs to look
> > at the different birds, they cant both come down the line at the
> > same time because they are both oviously coming down at the same
> > frequency. You cannot just "split" the signal to multiple recievers
> > because they would battle for control over the dish as channels are
> > changed. Because of that distribution of that to dozens of recievers
> > in a large building starts to get complicated because of  the
> > voltage switches needed to facilitate the switching. The Stacker
> > system sends the second dish feed down at 1500- 2 gig, so that all
> > of the signals are on the line at the same time,! a on 900-1500, b
> > on 1500 - 2000. Many of the recievers out there already have tuners
> > built in that can accept the wideband input, just a simple trip into
> > the service menu on the box and turn it on! Now we can amplify and
> > split as needed to feed as many as you want! But RG-11 and 2 gig
> > rated splitters and amps are a must.
> >
> > Thats my two cents on the matter.
> >
> > Tom
> > W9SRV
> >
> > bob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  >
> >  > From: "russ"
> >  > Date: 2004/10/15 Fri AM 02:00:59 GMT
> >  > To:
> >  > Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Direct TV type dish?
> >  >
> >  >
> >  > Hey Does any one know what frequency that the coax line
> >  coming from the LNB's to the receiver is? On direct TV.
> >  > 73 Russ, W3CH
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Help with a Micor Compa Station

2004-10-26 Thread Neil McKie


  Hello ... 

w7dux wrote:
> 
> Neil,
> 
> Just wanted to get out to all on this radio.  I have no problems at
> all powering it down to around 60 watts if that is possible. 

  Micor transmitter PA decks are known for going squirrely when the 
 power is turned down.  Sometimes the fix is to change out the 110 
 watt board for a lower power model. 

  I can show you an operating 2 meter repeater that has been operating 
 for several years using a 60 watt output PA deck. 


> Also would like to know if that will increase the duty cycle from 
> its 20%. 

  Usually depends on which PA deck heatsink you have.  Of course it 
 will help to put some forced air on it too but that is not the 'fix.' 


> I have not called or stopped by because I have been out of town and 
> just got back a few days ago.  I will find time to call you and 
> come by to show you the radio.  I would like to turn the node radio 
> into a repeater at some point and am wondering if this is the radio 
> to do it with.  Maybe I should go and just buy an already built 
> repeater. 

  Of course you can go out and buy a repeater - but please be sure of 
 what you are buying.  Quite a number of the more experienced amateurs 
 on this remailer will happily tell you which manufacturers to stay 
 away from. 


> Dan 

  Neil - WA6KLA 



> 
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> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> >
> >
> >
> > My name is Dan Tucker
> > Here is what I have.  I recently acquired and old Motorola Micor
> > Compa Station and I have no idea what can be done with it.  I am
> > very interested in learning more about it and what its
> > possibilities are.
> >
> >
> > Since it was free to me, I am open to just about anything but do
> > want to keep it and use it some how.  Would it make a good IRLP
> > Node Radio?
> >
> > Well, here are the specifics I can find on it.
> >
> > Model #C73RTB-3196E
> >
> > This is my understanding of what this means;
> >
> >   C = Compa Station Cabinet (either 30" or 41" high)
> >
> >   7 = 110 watts output - intermittent duty - 20% duty cycle.
> >
> >   3 = 132-174 MHz frequency range (however subject to the factory
> >   design)
> >
> >   R = Micor Receiver
> >
> >   T = Micor Transmitter (Intermittent Duty)
> >
> >   B = Base station configueration - could be a repeater too ...
> >   depends on how it was shipped.
> >   Once again, better to see it in person.
> >
> >   3 = Factory CTCSS installed (you might call that PL)
> >
> >   1 = Narrow band (+/- 5 kHz deviation)
> >
> >   9 = 4 freq receive / 4 freq transmit as shipped from the factory.
> >
> >   6 = Tone remote control via a leased telephone line.
> >
> >   E = Production run series indicator
> >
> >
> > Serial #201C6CO288 (This is a bit hard to read on the tag)
> >
> >
> > XMTR Data CC3301
> > RCVR Data  RCD-R106
> >
> > 115 watts (Says this on a tag inside)
> >
> > F1 Frequency currently (154.415 transmit and receive)
> >
> > Tone Remote Controlled
> >
> > 4 Channels (not completely sure what the other 3 frequencies but
> > have a guess)
> >
> > Other Numbers on the unit
> >
> > TRN6971A  Panel Assembly, PA
> >
> > TFD5644A  Unable to locate, a close inspection may be able to
> > determine what it is.
> >
> > TFD6102A  Harmonic Filter 150.8 - 174 MHz
> >
> > TCN1223A  Unified Chassis for Base ... not a repeater
> >
> > TLN5892A  Chassis and hardware kit
> >
> >
> > Has the following modules;
> >
> > Four Frequency control module
> >
> > Guard Tone Decoder
> >
> > F1 - "PL" Control Module
> >
> > Stn. Control Module
> >
> > Line Driver
> >
> > That's about all I know about it.  It served as our old Fire
> > Department base radio ever since I have been a member of the
> > Black Butte Ranch RFPD and probably well before that (Dec 1986).
> >
> > I am interested in all of its possibilities, but mostly, can it be
> > transformed in to a 2m repeater and what might that cost?...can
> you
> > help?
> >
> > Dan Tucker
> > W7DUX
> > Node 3089 (Owner)
> > 147.420
> 
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