[Repeater-Builder] Remote monitoring of repeater site
Hello learned group members. Does anyone know anybody that has a remote site monitoring system, ie battery state, vswr, entry, generator start, fuel level etc. I have a site in Africa that has 3 remotes site that we need to monitor localing and if possible on a dial up modem from here in Australia.it will need to leap frog thru a parallel telemetry rf link. I can be contacted direct or thru the group. There was a system that I saw many years ago but the memory is not that good to go back to a flyer some 15/20 years ago. I need a solution asap. Cheers. Brett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Remote monitoring of repeater site
Why not adapt something like the GME Telemetry system? http://www.gme.net.au/commercial/telemetry.php It's cheap and could be controlled through a host PC running PC Anywhere. You could interface SWR and other analogue interfaces to the analogue ports and then config the software. Just my 12.5c (Inc GST :-) _ Gareth Bennett This e-mail is confidential, if you received this message in error, or you are not the intended recipient, please return it to the sender and destroy any copies. Thank you. - Original Message - From: banjupb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 8:22 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Remote monitoring of repeater site Hello learned group members. Does anyone know anybody that has a remote site monitoring system, ie battery state, vswr, entry, generator start, fuel level etc. I have a site in Africa that has 3 remotes site that we need to monitor localing and if possible on a dial up modem from here in Australia.it will need to leap frog thru a parallel telemetry rf link. I can be contacted direct or thru the group. There was a system that I saw many years ago but the memory is not that good to go back to a flyer some 15/20 years ago. I need a solution asap. Cheers. Brett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] LTR controller on a GE mastr II Help please
It is for a Commercial system. But I don't see what that has to do with it. Gary LaForce Chariton Valley TriStar Communications Columbia Service Department Supervisor 573.441.2224 Direct Shop line 573.442.1147 Main Business Line 573.449.8310 Shop Fax line [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Neil McKie Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 4:40 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] LTR controller on a GE mastr II Help please Is this for an amateur or commercial band system? Neil - WA6KLA Gary Laforce wrote: I'm trying to put an LTR controller on a GE Mastr II the controller is a Trident Raider the Mastr II is a PM unit and this is were the problem is as I understand it. The factory tech support said that I would have to mod the ICOM as to how the audio was put into it??? So if anyone has input please let me know. Gary LaForce Chariton Valley TriStar Communications Columbia Service Department Supervisor 573.441.2224 Direct Shop line 573.442.1147 Main Business Line 573.449.8310 Shop Fax line [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of skipp025 Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 10:22 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: hardline connector generated IMD Hi Eric, The real fly in the soup are the 7/8 and higher mechanical center pin connections and any place where scratches and grooves are made. In addition to grooves and scratches Metal Burs and stringer materials from previous installs have been traced back to PIM (intermod) at busy (high rf) radio sites. The brass or stainless brush cleaning does help quite a bit, although it doesn't address any previous mechanical made deep center pin grooves from causing grief. I use a small round stainless pipe cleaning brush in the tool box to clean up the inside of 7/8 hardline. Smaller 1/4, 3/8 1/2 solder connectors shouldn't be as troublesome. There appear to be a lot of unsuspecting ways to make a diode... cheers, skipp Eric Lemmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Skipp, Verrry interesting! By curious coincidence, the installation instructions for the new Andrew Heliax connectors states that the connector must first be tightened and then removed to inspect the flare before re-tightening. I understand that the advice against re-using connectors is probably directed toward re-use of connectors that have been in service for some time, but the distinction should be made that merely tightening the connector once does not necessarily preclude tightening it a second time. (I, too, reuse expensive Heliax connectors!) 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] LTR controller on a GE mastr II Help please
Gary The only info I have from Trident is for the 800MHz version of the MASTR II. If I can be of any help please give me a call. Wayne Cornick Senior Programmer IE Communications Inc. Trenton IL 62293 618-224-7138 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gary Laforce wrote: I'm trying to put an LTR controller on a GE Mastr II the controller is a Trident Raider the Mastr II is a PM unit and this is were the problem is as I understand it. The factory tech support said that I would have to mod the ICOM as to how the audio was put into it??? So if anyone has input please let me know. Gary LaForce Chariton Valley TriStar Communications Columbia Service Department Supervisor 573.441.2224 Direct Shop line 573.442.1147 Main Business Line 573.449.8310 Shop Fax line [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] LTR controller on a GE mastr II Help please
Back in the old days I converted several MII's in 800 Mhz from GMARC to LTR. There was a mod the the channel element where an un-used pin applied txdata to the compensation circuit in the element - This was a mod from Cook's in California where they made a sharing system to run both GMARC and LTR on the same repeater. You should have no trouble applying data to the channel element - you may have to invert the data and seemed like a 10kohm resistor was used - I use a test ID code on IDA RLC's so that when I ground the test pin it will send the test ID and a subscriber unit should unmute on proper decode. Once I have the transmit working, then I connect to discriminator audio and get the decode working - standard test is to use 100 hz audio at 1kc deviation to simulate mobile data for level setting, and txdata set to 1kc peak to peak. I usually set voice for 2kc in for 2kc out at 1000 hz and total system deviation at 4.0 kc. Wish you success, Steve NU5D Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Remote monitoring of repeater site
Just about any decent broadcast-oriented remote control system will do what you want. For examples: www.sinesystems.com - model RFC1/B (bare bones system) www.burk.com - ARC-16, GSC3000, VRC2500 www.broadcasttools.com - several different units; look at their upcoming VMC-8 product The ProTek series from PageTek (www.pagetek.net) is pretty popular for non-broadcast telecom sites. Their basic Jr. model may be all you need. Keep in mind that you have to provide the sensory inputs to most of these remote control/telemetry units. Most manufacturers sell temperature sensors/probes, AC voltage sensors (which you can mimic just as easily with an unregulated DC wall wart and some additional protection), etc., but for something like fuel level, you'd need a sending unit in your diesel tank or a pressure transducer for LP to provide a varying DC voltage to feed to the unit. Most will work with 4-wire links (or RF equivalent) that will pass FSK modem tones (Bell 103), or you can go with outboard modems for higher data rates, or IP connectivity if it's available for some of the higher-end models. Most also support some form of dial-up remote control (DTMF control, with a voice synthesizer for telemetry readback). Not all of them are capable of multi-drop (parallel) communications however. See the manuals on the respective web sites for details. --- Jeff -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of banjupb Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 4:23 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Remote monitoring of repeater site Hello learned group members. Does anyone know anybody that has a remote site monitoring system, ie battery state, vswr, entry, generator start, fuel level etc. I have a site in Africa that has 3 remotes site that we need to monitor localing and if possible on a dial up modem from here in Australia.it will need to leap frog thru a parallel telemetry rf link. I can be contacted direct or thru the group. There was a system that I saw many years ago but the memory is not that good to go back to a flyer some 15/20 years ago. I need a solution asap. Cheers. Brett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ attachment: winmail.dat
[Repeater-Builder] Duplexer Cable Probe/Loop Lengths
I have not experimented with the effects of jumper length, since I usually ordera duplexer made for a specific repeater pair, and merely verify its operation What does the length of the cables between cavities affect in the duplexer system? I seem to vaguely recall it had an effect on the bandpass to band reject slope and the position of the notch (separation?) , but I'm not completely sure of this. It does... In some self contained duplex combiners (Cellwave as an example), one will see two lengths of cable stubs from the cavity probe/loop up to the duplexer harness T. One length places the reject slope higher on the tx side while the other length places the slope higher on the rx side. The proper probe/loop to harness stub length can greatly increase a desired notch. Decibel's VHF Cavity stub length adds over 10dB to one suck-out cavity. So you'll find three stub lengths in use... depending on where you want the enhanced cavity/cable operation. cheers, skipp Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Tait T300 manual?
Anyone have a manual for a Tait 300 Series? This is a crystal controlled base/repeater with a T345 transmitter module T346 receiver module in the 450-470 MHz band split. Will gladly pay for an original or for copying and postage. Thanks, Eric KF8YK [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Simplex repeater (Dual Tones)
At 5/19/2005 08:26 AM, you wrote: Eric Lemmon wrote: Fellas, Please re-read my posting. My statement was concerning the ability of a radio to encode one CTCSS tone and decode a different CTCSS tone. I have a number of Icom, Alinco, and Yaesu radios which can only be programmed for ONE tone per channel, and the same tone is used for both TX and RX. Even the Motorola HT220 radio could only have one PL tone. I did not state that NO Amateur-grade radio could have different tones for TX and RX. I merely commented that this capability is uncommon in recent designs. Perhaps in the future it will be a standard feature, along with dual-format reverse burst and adjustable CTCSS deviation. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY Right-so far the only ham rig I've seen that can do split tones is the last of the Azden radios. I have a 6M version, and it can do it, since it programs like a commercial rig, just from the front panel. In fact, in other countries where type-acceptance isn't an issue, I'm pretty sure they sold the exact same radio into commercial service. Most Alinco radios can do split-tone: DR-605, DR-620, DR-435T, DJ-G5T. Bob NO6B Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Simplex repeater (Dual Tones)
At 5/19/2005 10:36 AM, you wrote: Icom 2720 as well That's what the ICOM salesman told me at Dayton. Scott I checked his 2720 confirmed that it does NOT do split tone, although the way the menu is setup you'd think it would. Bob NO6B Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Simplex repeater (Dual Tones)
The only radio I have encountered that does split CTCSS is the Radio Shack HT-202. But there are so many other problems with the radio I cannot recommend it. On 5/31/05, Bob Dengler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 5/19/2005 10:36 AM, you wrote: Icom 2720 as well That's what the ICOM salesman told me at Dayton. Scott I checked his 2720 confirmed that it does NOT do split tone, although the way the menu is setup you'd think it would. Bob NO6B Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Simplex repeater (Dual Tones)
sorry, i can't remember the start of this thread but all the commercial radios i use allow the encode/transmit and decode/receive tones (whether CTCSS or DCS) to be different. At 02:48 PM 5/31/05 -0700, DCFluX wrote: The only radio I have encountered that does split CTCSS is the Radio Shack HT-202. Jack Swift I.E. Swift Co. 402 Shelden Ave. Houghton, MI 49931 906-482-0530, 0531, 7766 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Tait 2015?
Anyone know if these radios can be used even in simplex mode? (on 220) Thanks, Robert (of course within the ham band ;-) If you're talking about the LTR trunking variety on 220 MHz, they will TX and RX in the ham bands after much twiddling with the programming software. However... they're narrowbanded (low deviation) and the receiver I tested was very very deaf in the ham band. They would NOT receive and transmit on a standard split or set up talkaround (simplex) correctly. Would have worked to have one for TX and one for RX as a repeater, but you couldn't use them as mobiles, etc. And with the narrowband deviation they'd have sounded bad. They get horrendously hot on TX, didn't seem to matter if the power was set higher or lower. They're just a hot-running radio with a very small heat-sink. The UHF non-LTR trunking variety also does this. Perhaps the receive sensitivty could have been remedied, if I could find any tuning information about them, but I screwed up the receiver I was playing with on the workbench while I was digging for a COS circuit and dropped a tool. I never went back to messing with them. That receiver unit was dead as a doornail after that incident (zaaap... oops, let the smoke out!) and I only had two. Both the dead and the live one are sitting here in storage if anyone wants to mess with them. Oh yeah, the BNC connector for RF is also a pain, but they do usually have a punch-out for a DB-9 accessory port which would make a good place to bring out COS/PTT, etc. Nate WY0X Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Tait 2015?
Anyone know if these radios can be used even in simplex mode? (on 220) Thanks, Robert (of course within the ham band ;-) If you're talking about the LTR trunking variety on 220 MHz, they will TX and RX in the ham bands after much twiddling with the programming software. However... they're narrowbanded (low deviation) and the receiver I tested was very very deaf in the ham band. They would NOT receive and transmit on a standard split or set up talkaround (simplex) correctly. Would have worked to have one for TX and one for RX as a repeater, but you couldn't use them as mobiles, etc. And with the narrowband deviation they'd have sounded bad. They get horrendously hot on TX, didn't seem to matter if the power was set higher or lower. They're just a hot-running radio with a very small heat-sink. The UHF non-LTR trunking variety also does this. Perhaps the receive sensitivty could have been remedied, if I could find any tuning information about them, but I screwed up the receiver I was playing with on the workbench while I was digging for a COS circuit and dropped a tool. I never went back to messing with them. That receiver unit was dead as a doornail after that incident (zaaap... oops, let the smoke out!) and I only had two. Both the dead and the live one are sitting here in storage if anyone wants to mess with them. Oh yeah, the BNC connector for RF is also a pain, but they do usually have a punch-out for a DB-9 accessory port which would make a good place to bring out COS/PTT, etc. Nate WY0X Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] LTR controller on a GE mastr II Help please
Will the FCC certification of the transmitter need to be changed because of the additional circuitry? Neil - WA6KLA Gary Laforce wrote: It is for a Commercial system. But I don't see what that has to do with it. Gary LaForce Chariton Valley TriStar Communications Columbia Service Department Supervisor 573.441.2224 Direct Shop line 573.442.1147 Main Business Line 573.449.8310 Shop Fax line [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Neil McKie Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 4:40 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] LTR controller on a GE mastr II Help please Is this for an amateur or commercial band system? Neil - WA6KLA Gary Laforce wrote: I'm trying to put an LTR controller on a GE Mastr II the controller is a Trident Raider the Mastr II is a PM unit and this is were the problem is as I understand it. The factory tech support said that I would have to mod the ICOM as to how the audio was put into it??? So if anyone has input please let me know. Gary LaForce Chariton Valley TriStar Communications Columbia Service Department Supervisor 573.441.2224 Direct Shop line 573.442.1147 Main Business Line 573.449.8310 Shop Fax line [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of skipp025 Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 10:22 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: hardline connector generated IMD Hi Eric, The real fly in the soup are the 7/8 and higher mechanical center pin connections and any place where scratches and grooves are made. In addition to grooves and scratches Metal Burs and stringer materials from previous installs have been traced back to PIM (intermod) at busy (high rf) radio sites. The brass or stainless brush cleaning does help quite a bit, although it doesn't address any previous mechanical made deep center pin grooves from causing grief. I use a small round stainless pipe cleaning brush in the tool box to clean up the inside of 7/8 hardline. Smaller 1/4, 3/8 1/2 solder connectors shouldn't be as troublesome. There appear to be a lot of unsuspecting ways to make a diode... cheers, skipp Eric Lemmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Skipp, Verrry interesting! By curious coincidence, the installation instructions for the new Andrew Heliax connectors states that the connector must first be tightened and then removed to inspect the flare before re-tightening. I understand that the advice against re-using connectors is probably directed toward re-use of connectors that have been in service for some time, but the distinction should be made that merely tightening the connector once does not necessarily preclude tightening it a second time. (I, too, reuse expensive Heliax connectors!) 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] LTR controller on a GE mastr II Help please
I would not go there.. Steve b Will the FCC certification of the transmitter need to be changed because of the additional circuitry? Neil - WA6KLA Gary Laforce wrote: It is for a Commercial system. But I don't see what that has to do Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Simplex repeater (Dual Tones)
So will my Kenwood TK705D and TK805D's as well as doing CDCSS too. Neil - WA6KLA Bob Dengler wrote: At 5/19/2005 08:26 AM, you wrote: Eric Lemmon wrote: Fellas, Please re-read my posting. My statement was concerning the ability of a radio to encode one CTCSS tone and decode a different CTCSS tone. I have a number of Icom, Alinco, and Yaesu radios which can only be programmed for ONE tone per channel, and the same tone is used for both TX and RX. Even the Motorola HT220 radio could only have one PL tone. I did not state that NO Amateur-grade radio could have different tones for TX and RX. I merely commented that this capability is uncommon in recent designs. Perhaps in the future it will be a standard feature, along with dual-format reverse burst and adjustable CTCSS deviation. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY Right-so far the only ham rig I've seen that can do split tones is the last of the Azden radios. I have a 6M version, and it can do it, since it programs like a commercial rig, just from the front panel. In fact, in other countries where type-acceptance isn't an issue, I'm pretty sure they sold the exact same radio into commercial service. Most Alinco radios can do split-tone: DR-605, DR-620, DR-435T, DJ-G5T. Bob NO6B Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] LTR controller on a GE mastr II Help please
That's what I thought ... Neil - WA6KLA Steve Bosshard (NU5D) wrote: I would not go there.. Steve b Will the FCC certification of the transmitter need to be changed because of the additional circuitry? Neil - WA6KLA Gary Laforce wrote: It is for a Commercial system. But I don't see what that has to do Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Time-Out-Timer Length
Eric and who ever is interested, The T.O.T. I have done some reverse engineering on it. There is 120mfd cap. in the bottom of the can. If you increase it to 340mfd, it will lengthen to about 7 minutes. I think this will be enough for what I'm trying to do. I could increase it more , but there is not enough room for a larger cap. Thanks Bruce KD4BOH. - Original Message - From: Eric Lemmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 30, 2005 7:16 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Time-Out-Timer Length Bruce, What model radio is the TLN1361A used in? I did not find that number listed on MOL. Most rules require a 3 minute maximum transmission unless other controls are available; what drives your need for such a long interval? Just curious... 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY brucenanney wrote: Does anyone know how to lengthen a TLN 1361A T.O.T. from Motorola? The one I have is 1 minute, I need it to do 10-15 minutes. Thanks, Bruce KD4BOH. Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/