Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Aluminium ladders as towers
What's wrong with the old woodentelephone pole with a 2" galv pipe outriger80% thelength of the pole say spaced 1' from the pole? Easy to rig, tough, not subject to "Rectification" as much as lattice towers, cheap. and can be put in by your power utility pretty easily. Just my 10c worth _ Gareth Bennett This e-mail is confidential, if you received this message in error, or youare not the intended recipient,please return it to the sender and destroy any copies.Thank you. - Original Message - From: Ian Wells To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 12:23 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Aluminium ladders as towers thanks for the thoughts .Does anyone know of some good pages on cheap masts or tower construction around 5-9 metersThank you Ian Wells Kerinvale Comaudio mail service 1017, Biloela,4715. www.kerinvalecomaudio.com.auMike Perryman K5JMP wrote: Ian, In my part of the world a good aluminum ladder costs about twice what a section of Rohn 25G costs... I think I would go with the 25G just for safety and strength, not to mention that your insurance agent would have a fit.. Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Chuck Kelsey Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 3:39 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Aluminium ladders as towers I agree. There is not very good lateral strength in a ladder because there is no diagonal bracing like most towers have. You need to think "triangles." If it creates a triangle, in all planes, it's going to have strength. The old "Dill" towers with horizontal "steps" had no sideways strength. Today's Rohn has "Z" braces to form triangles. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: "Coy Hilton" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 3:10 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Aluminium ladders as towers --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Coy Hilton" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One addition, this is a single aluminum ladder. Well, This was shown in the 2000 ARRL hand book...sorry to say. This is a single aluminum ladder. It works fine for field day operation the photo shows an exstention ladder guyed at three points sitting in a hole dug about a foot deep to keep it from walking off in the wind. I can see this being done for a temperary setup but to use it as a commertial installation is shurely dangerous. Good luck Ian AC0Y --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ian Wells [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi guys .I have heard of a communication business here in australia useing ladders as towers .anyone tried this or know of any webpages They must either join two together with braces or four of to form a square which forms a free standing tower Thank you Ian Wells Kerinvale Comaudio mail service 1017, Biloela,4715. www.kerinvalecomaudio.com.au Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Aluminium ladders as towers
thanks garteth i have one site with a ex power pole already setup with a 9 meter steel pole along side of it but it is very hard climbing the post to realease the top mounting clamp 8 meters up the post . also the site i am trying to improve a 4wd is the only vehicle that can access the site Thank you Ian Wells Kerinvale Comaudio mail service 1017, Biloela,4715. www.kerinvalecomaudio.com.au Gareth Bennett wrote: What's wrong with the old woodentelephone pole with a 2" galv pipe outriger80% thelength of the pole say spaced 1' from the pole? Easy to rig, tough, not subject to "Rectification" as much as lattice towers, cheap. and can be put in by your power utility pretty easily. Just my 10c worth _ Gareth Bennett This e-mail is confidential, if you received this message in error, or you are not the intended recipient, please return it to the sender and destroy any copies. Thank you. - Original Message - From: Ian Wells To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 12:23 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Aluminium ladders as towers thanks for the thoughts .Does anyone know of some good pages on cheap masts or tower construction around 5-9 meters Thank you Ian Wells Kerinvale Comaudio mail service 1017, Biloela,4715. www.kerinvalecomaudio.com.au Mike Perryman K5JMP wrote: Ian, In my part of the world a good aluminum ladder costs about twice what a section of Rohn 25G costs... I think I would go with the 25G just for safety and strength, not to mention that your insurance agent would have a fit.. Mike -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Chuck Kelsey Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 3:39 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Aluminium ladders as towers I agree. There is not very good lateral strength in a ladder because there is no diagonal bracing like most towers have. You need to think "triangles." If it creates a triangle, in all planes, it's going to have strength. The old "Dill" towers with horizontal "steps" had no sideways strength. Today's Rohn has "Z" braces to form triangles. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: "Coy Hilton" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 3:10 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Aluminium ladders as towers --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "Coy Hilton" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One addition, this is a single aluminum ladder. Well, This was shown in the 2000 ARRL hand book...sorry to say. This is a single aluminum ladder. It works fine for field day operation the photo shows an exstention ladder guyed at three points sitting in a hole dug about a foot deep to keep it from walking off in the wind. I can see this being done for a temperary setup but to use it as a commertial installation is shurely dangerous. Good luck Ian AC0Y --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Ian Wells [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi guys .I have heard of a communication business here in australia useing ladders as towers .anyone tried this or know of any webpages They must either join two together with braces or four of to form a square which forms a free standing tower Thank you Ian Wells Kerinvale Comaudio mail service 1017, Biloela,4715. www.kerinvalecomaudio.com.au Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Aluminium ladders as towers
Hi Ian, Glad that things are busy for you with your repeaters. As for wooden poles, O get our local lines company to install climbing rungs prior to fitment, usually starting one metre from the groundto satisfyOSH requirements. What about visiting your local machine shop/engineer with some photo's of a standard "Tri-leg" tower with lattice bracing. here in NZ we have usually 2 metre sections that can be installed with a gin pole and a few blokes with the price of a few bevvies afterwards. I've had these made up and usually pay $NZD about $200 per 2 Metres. ...How are the Maxon's going? _ Gareth Bennett This e-mail is confidential, if you received this message in error, or youare not the intended recipient,please return it to the sender and destroy any copies.Thank you. - Original Message - From: Ian Wells To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 7:37 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Aluminium ladders as towers thanks gartethi have one site with a ex power pole already setup with a 9 meter steel pole along side of it but it is very hard climbing the post to realease the top mounting clamp 8 meters up the post .also the site i am trying to improve a 4wd is the only vehicle that can access the siteThank you Ian Wells Kerinvale Comaudio mail service 1017, Biloela,4715. www.kerinvalecomaudio.com.auGareth Bennett wrote: What's wrong with the old woodentelephone pole with a 2" galv pipe outriger80% thelength of the pole say spaced 1' from the pole? Easy to rig, tough, not subject to "Rectification" as much as lattice towers, cheap. and can be put in by your power utility pretty easily. Just my 10c worth _ Gareth Bennett This e-mail is confidential, if you received this message in error, or youare not the intended recipient,please return it to the sender and destroy any copies.Thank you. - Original Message - From: Ian Wells To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 12:23 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Aluminium ladders as towers thanks for the thoughts .Does anyone know of some good pages on cheap masts or tower construction around 5-9 metersThank you Ian Wells Kerinvale Comaudio mail service 1017, Biloela,4715. www.kerinvalecomaudio.com.auMike Perryman K5JMP wrote: Ian, In my part of the world a good aluminum ladder costs about twice what a section of Rohn 25G costs... I think I would go with the 25G just for safety and strength, not to mention that your insurance agent would have a fit.. Mike -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Chuck Kelsey Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 3:39 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Aluminium ladders as towers I agree. There is not very good lateral strength in a ladder because there is no diagonal bracing like most towers have. You need to think "triangles." If it creates a triangle, in all planes, it's going to have strength. The old "Dill" towers with horizontal "steps" had no sideways strength. Today's Rohn has "Z" braces to form triangles. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: "Coy Hilton" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 3:10 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Aluminium ladders as towers --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "Coy Hilton" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One addition, this is a single aluminum ladder. Well, This was shown in the 2000 ARRL hand book...sorry to say. This is a single aluminum ladder. It works fine for field day operation the photo shows an exstention ladder guyed at three points sitting in a hole dug about a foot deep to keep it from walking off in the wind. I can see this being done for a temperary setup but to use it as a commertial installation is shurely dangerous. Good luck Ian AC0Y --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Ian Wells [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi guys .I have heard of a communication business here in australia useing ladders as towers .anyone tried this or know of any webpages They must either join two together with braces or four of to form a square which forms a free standing tower Thank you Ian Wells Kerinvale Comaudio mail service 1017, Biloela,4715. www.kerinvalecomaudio.com.au Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an
[Repeater-Builder] 2 meter receiver with afc for use on 1.2Ghz
Hello fellow repeater builders. I am new to this excellent group. I have been running a repeater on 1.2Ghz using a Hamtronics 2 meter repeater along with SSB electronics RX and TX converters. It seems to work very well. The Hamtronics receiver has very tight selectivity and I was wondering if there is a different receiver I could use that has AFC to take into account off frequency TX's at 1.2Ghz? Also, would there be a downside to using AFC? I would like to make this repeater work as good as possible. Thanks for any comments. Al Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Aluminium ladders as towers
not bad seem a little more deaf than taits but still verg good . Thank you Ian Wells Kerinvale Comaudio mail service 1017, Biloela,4715. www.kerinvalecomaudio.com.au Gareth Bennett wrote: Hi Ian, Glad that things are busy for you with your repeaters. As for wooden poles, O get our local lines company to install climbing rungs prior to fitment, usually starting one metre from the groundto satisfyOSH requirements. What about visiting your local machine shop/engineer with some photo's of a standard "Tri-leg" tower with lattice bracing. here in NZ we have usually 2 metre sections that can be installed with a gin pole and a few blokes with the price of a few bevvies afterwards. I've had these made up and usually pay $NZD about $200 per 2 Metres. ...How are the Maxon's going? _ Gareth Bennett This e-mail is confidential, if you received this message in error, or you are not the intended recipient, please return it to the sender and destroy any copies. Thank you. - Original Message - From: Ian Wells To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 7:37 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Aluminium ladders as towers thanks garteth i have one site with a ex power pole already setup with a 9 meter steel pole along side of it but it is very hard climbing the post to realease the top mounting clamp 8 meters up the post . also the site i am trying to improve a 4wd is the only vehicle that can access the site Thank you Ian Wells Kerinvale Comaudio mail service 1017, Biloela,4715. www.kerinvalecomaudio.com.au Gareth Bennett wrote: What's wrong with the old woodentelephone pole with a 2" galv pipe outriger80% thelength of the pole say spaced 1' from the pole? Easy to rig, tough, not subject to "Rectification" as much as lattice towers, cheap. and can be put in by your power utility pretty easily. Just my 10c worth _ Gareth Bennett This e-mail is confidential, if you received this message in error, or you are not the intended recipient, please return it to the sender and destroy any copies. Thank you. - Original Message - From: Ian Wells To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 12:23 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Aluminium ladders as towers thanks for the thoughts .Does anyone know of some good pages on cheap masts or tower construction around 5-9 meters Thank you Ian Wells Kerinvale Comaudio mail service 1017, Biloela,4715. www.kerinvalecomaudio.com.au Mike Perryman K5JMP wrote: Ian, In my part of the world a good aluminum ladder costs about twice what a section of Rohn 25G costs... I think I would go with the 25G just for safety and strength, not to mention that your insurance agent would have a fit.. Mike -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Chuck Kelsey Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 3:39 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Aluminium ladders as towers I agree. There is not very good lateral strength in a ladder because there is no diagonal bracing like most towers have. You need to think "triangles." If it creates a triangle, in all planes, it's going to have strength. The old "Dill" towers with horizontal "steps" had no sideways strength. Today's Rohn has "Z" braces to form triangles. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: "Coy Hilton" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 3:10 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Aluminium ladders as towers --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "Coy Hilton" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One addition, this is a single aluminum ladder. Well, This was shown in the 2000 ARRL hand book...sorry to say. This is a single aluminum ladder. It works fine for field day operation the photo shows an exstention ladder guyed at three points sitting in a hole dug about a foot deep to keep it from walking off in the wind. I can see this being done for a temperary setup but to use it as a commertial installation is shurely dangerous. Good luck Ian AC0Y --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Ian Wells [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi guys .I have heard of a communication business here in australia useing ladders as towers .anyone tried this or know of any webpages They must either join two together with braces or four of to form a square which forms a free standing tower
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Aluminium ladders as towers
Ian TheCheap Home built towers will get you and someone else "Hurt Bad". The Co I used to work for to try to save money bid Jobs for less would installantennas on4x 4inch "US" 24ft Tall Treated wood poles Set inn ground Then Add about 10 ft mast to top. Giving themabout 30 ft height to antenna. Untill one fell with worker on top " Not worth saving a few dollars. Just save money and buyRohn 25 or other brand or have one Built. But don't rig up something that will get someone hurt. Over the Years I have picked up Tower from Mostly CBers that have gotten tired of hobby and are sellingout at very good prices sometimes just to take tower down they will give it to you.I have Three towers now 30 ft on end of house 30 ft freestanding in back yard 35 ft Alm Crank up I use for Field days Emrg. service .I bought 50 ft Rohn with antenna 11 M for $50.00 Had to take down. 30 ft American tower someone gave me just to get rid of it . crank up boughtfor $500.00 with new26b-2/2 M new tower sells for about $1800.00 if you look long enough you Might find something you could use .What about windmill tower I also have 35 ft Someone gave me "Other Ham" when he was moving out of State. Just look around don't be afraid to ask . Dale N8SAC YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Aluminium ladders as towers
we have used a 9 meter windmill tower on one site .i have been trying to locate 5-9 meter triangle type crankup towers or build a fold over like a nally but i havent found any basic plans to build from . Thank you Ian Wells Kerinvale Comaudio mail service 1017, Biloela,4715. www.kerinvalecomaudio.com.au Maxwell Pratt wrote: Ian TheCheap Home built towers will get you and someone else "Hurt Bad". The Co I used to work for to try to save money bid Jobs for less would installantennas on4x 4inch "US" 24ft Tall Treated wood poles Set inn ground Then Add about 10 ft mast to top. Giving themabout 30 ft height to antenna. Untill one fell with worker on top " Not worth saving a few dollars. Just save money and buyRohn 25 or other brand or have one Built. But don't rig up something that will get someone hurt. Over the Years I have picked up Tower from Mostly CBers that have gotten tired of hobby and are sellingout at very good prices sometimes just to take tower down they will give it to you.I have Three towers now 30 ft on end of house 30 ft freestanding in back yard 35 ft Alm Crank up I use for Field days Emrg. service .I bought 50 ft Rohn with antenna 11 M for $50.00 Had to take down. 30 ft American tower someone gave me just to get rid of it . crank up boughtfor $500.00 with new26b-2/2 M new tower sells for about $1800.00 if you look long enough you Might find something you could use .What about windmill tower I also have 35 ft Someone gave me "Other Ham" when he was moving out of State. Just look around don't be afraid to ask . Dale N8SAC YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Induced RF on tower and antennas
Makes a case for a true DC grounded antenna... skipp Chuck Kelsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another ham buddy and I watched as an unconnected PL-259 was arcing between the center pin and the shell. The coax was connected to a CB antenna on the roof. The charge was being generated by the wind. If we hadn't seen it, we wouldn'y have believed it. We didn't touch the connector to see how big a jolt it would give - we just respected it from that point. Chuck WB2EDV Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] message recording/playback on repeaters
Is there a scheme to post and retrieve messages by repeater users? What controllers offer this? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Still looking for service manual for AIE FM-110 service monitor
Have restarted my search for the above. Either I find it or I'll be selling the monitor (a monitor with 12.5 kHz step resolution on UHF isn't very fun to use in SoCal). A couple of you I met at Dayton had suggestions for commercial sources of manuals, but aside from yourmanualsource.com I haven't come across any others. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Bob NO6B Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Voting circuit required
Good Day Gentleman Thanks for the links etc but I would prefer to make it myself as with much of the interfacing on my repeater system. Thanks again . Brad ZS5WT --- skipp025 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll throw in a vote for the LDG Voter. It's a really nice way to set up a voting system. Has a lot of extra helpful bells and whistles you can actually use. cheers, skipp Jamey Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is actually one of tose on eBay right now. http://cgi.ebay.com/Doug-Hall-4RV-2-Signal-to-Noise-Radio-Voter_W0QQitemZ753 8605980QQcategoryZ46539QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Jamey Wright -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jim B. Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 1:12 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Voting circuit required bradley glen wrote: Good day All I am still looking for a 4 channel voting circuit to place voting on my UHF linked system. The two channel on Repeater Builders page will not suffice. Regards Bradley Glen ZS5WT http://members.harc.org.za/zs5wt Best bet: http://www.dheco.com/voter.htm Easy to set up, reliable, votes as good as anything else, and much cheaper than Mot or GE. -- Jim Barbour WD8CHL Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] APRS string/transmissions interspersed with voice
Could an APRS string be interspersed with voice on a repeater with no problem? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] message recording/playback on repeaters
The DRC 186 controller does this function plus many more, however the company that produced this controller no longer exists. There are probably other controllers that have the function you seek. Ciao, Tony, K3WX quahauq wrote: Is there a scheme to post and retrieve messages by repeater users? What controllers offer this? Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] APRS string/transmissions interspersed with voice
Depends on your definition of 'problem' ;-) Technically -- may require some audio tweaking, but do-able... Sociologically -- voice users will certainly require MUCH tweaking .. (Hi!) quahauq wrote: Could an APRS string be interspersed with voice on a repeater with no problem? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Voting circuit required
Hi Brad, You are into self abuse... eh? Sure you can make your own voter no problem but speaking as a person who has done said... you're in for a lot of work on a new ground-up built project. I have a ton of Voter Data in my files using information from the Motorola Spectra Tac, the GE equivalent type, the Doug Hall, the LDG, the Motorola A-B voter, the 2 channel QST article that FAR Circuits sells the pc board for and a number of other hybrid projects picked from various Mags and my own work. My mentioned vote for the LDG voter is based on running at least one of each type of the above listed. I'm just trying to give you a practical answer. You can pick up a shelf of the GE voter stuff on Ebay today for $69 dollars. It takes a manual, a logical brain, some serious time and a few interface tricks, but how can you beat the price if you live in a place where the seller will ship it. I've seen shelves of Motorhead Spectra Tac go for similar prices on Ebay in the last few weeks. If you do go with a ground up new project, you have to toss around the choice of a true signal to noise voter vs the rectified high frequency noise voters that tend to be popular (and cheap). Both work fine for many apps but the true Sig-Noise type work better. Good luck cheers, skipp bradley glen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good Day Gentleman Thanks for the links etc but I would prefer to make it myself as with much of the interfacing on my repeater system. Thanks again . Brad ZS5WT --- skipp025 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll throw in a vote for the LDG Voter. It's a really nice way to set up a voting system. Has a lot of extra helpful bells and whistles you can actually use. cheers, skipp Jamey Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is actually one of tose on eBay right now. http://cgi.ebay.com/Doug-Hall-4RV-2-Signal-to-Noise-Radio-Voter_W0QQitemZ753 8605980QQcategoryZ46539QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Jamey Wright -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jim B. Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 1:12 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Voting circuit required bradley glen wrote: Good day All I am still looking for a 4 channel voting circuit to place voting on my UHF linked system. The two channel on Repeater Builders page will not suffice. Regards Bradley Glen ZS5WT http://members.harc.org.za/zs5wt Best bet: http://www.dheco.com/voter.htm Easy to set up, reliable, votes as good as anything else, and much cheaper than Mot or GE. -- Jim Barbour WD8CHL Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] APRS string/transmissions interspersed with voice
Physically, yes, practically and without bothering your users, probably not Taking packets off the input of the receiver ( mic-e type packets) is one thing as you can put a tnc on the repeater to mute the tx audio while it is receiving mic-e type bursts( wiring a mute gate to the busy light of the TNC) . However I would not recommend passing it ( the APRS packet) on that tx ( main repeater tx) but put it out on the designated APRS freq, most probably 144.39, instead. A much better place for it. The other thing you need on that tnc is a is a hardware rx busy input from the 144.39 radio so as not to dump the packet on top of a valid APRS user as this config uses the repeater rx for the rx side of the tnc and the aprs radio for the tx side... channel busy to the tnc needs to be wired to cor or something similar on the aprs radio Only one tnc to keep costs down. It can also be done with 2 tnc's but no particular benefit to justify the additional cost.. At 01:02 PM 8/22/2005, you wrote: Could an APRS string be interspersed with voice on a repeater with no problem? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] message recording/playback on repeaters
Arcom's RC210 has this facility and does it well! I have one myself. Matt G4RKY - Original Message - From: Tony Faiola [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 7:02 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] message recording/playback on repeaters The DRC 186 controller does this function plus many more, however the company that produced this controller no longer exists. There are probably other controllers that have the function you seek. Ciao, Tony, K3WX quahauq wrote: Is there a scheme to post and retrieve messages by repeater users? What controllers offer this? Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links ___ Yahoo! Messenger - NEW crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Johnson 550 question
any one of y'all got a johnson 550 manual. I'm trying to get one powered up for a friend and have no power cord. I have ground on pin 1, +12 on pin 4. Where else do I need to put +12? tnx, td wb6mie Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Re: message recording/playback on repeaters
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, quahauq [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a scheme to post and retrieve messages by repeater users? What controllers offer this? _ __ Probably the most capable product to meet that need would be the Big DVR [DVR-1] from Link COmmunications. It has a specially designed voice mail system with up to 1000 variable length message tracks and up to 32 minutes of storage time. Here is what the manual says about how to use it. The DVR uses special internal tracks to provide two types of mailboxes: public and private. Both types allow you to leave messages for other repeater users. You can leave a message in a public mailbox by simply entering the Leave Public Mail command (after setting up the prompting tracks as described below). The DVR will then ask you who the mail is for. You key up and say their name or call sign. The DVR will then ask you to record your message. When you are through, it will tell you that your message has been stored. You can check if there is mail for you by simply entering the Check Public Mail command. It will list the names or call signs of the people that there is mail for, or will tell you that there is no mail. If there is mail for you, you can listen to your message by entering the Retrieve Public Mail command. Up to nine public mailboxes can be in use at a time. Unfortunately, the company is out of stock and has no plans to build more at this time [although that may change]but someone on the RLC yahoo group might be willing to part with one. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] message recording/playback on repeaters
The NHRC-10 has six 32-second slots for voice mail, each with a 8-second header. The command syntax is compatible with the old ACC DVR. http://www.nhrc.net/nhrc-10 Jeff At 12:34 PM 8/22/2005, you wrote: Is there a scheme to post and retrieve messages by repeater users? What controllers offer this? Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Johnson 550 question
Tony, Here is a drawing of the connector on the back of the radio. You can short out pins 2 and 3, the coil is used for a DC filter, as well as the cap is used part of the filter. I hope this helps. DanielKC4PLC tony dinkel wrote: any one of y'all got a johnson 550 manual. I'm trying to get one powered up for a friend and have no power cord. I have ground on pin 1, +12 on pin 4. Where else do I need to put +12? tnx, Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ attachment: 01.JPG
[Repeater-Builder] Tait Repeaters
Any one have a manual? Any one know how the duplexer handles channel changes? What is the TX/RX seperation on the channel format i.e. + 5 megs like in the us for UHF or -5 megs or some odd split? Any one have a reasonable 110 power supply for Tait repeater? Anyone know how to computer interface the repeater? Warmest regards, Terry Stone (800) 932-3337 or (218) 2839290. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] For Sale
From an estate: Motorola SINAD meter. Model R1013A. Perfect condition and I'm told never used. With manual and original box which is falling apart. Great for tuning up those receivers. $65.000 and I'll ship to lower 48 states. Tnx Kevin for the permission. Jim McLaughlin WA9FPT [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] R100 Programming
Hello to the group, Does anyone have any information on programming the PL or DPL codes with the Motorola RSS for the R100 repeater? Looks like it may be in HEX, but not sure. Is there a chart or something? Thanks, thp YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] For Sale
OK. You certainly have a right to an opinion. I received a price range from Kevin and it seemed fair to me. Thanks for your interest though. Jim - Original Message - From: Kevin Berlen, K9HX [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 21:13 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] For Sale $65,000?? seems a BIT high to me!! :^) 73, Kevin, K9HX At 08:29 PM 8/22/2005, you wrote: From an estate: Motorola SINAD meter. Model R1013A. Perfect condition and I'm told never used. With manual and original box which is falling apart. Great for tuning up those receivers. $65.000 and I'll ship to lower 48 states. Tnx Kevin for the permission. Jim McLaughlin WA9FPT [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Johnson 550 question
TD, If that is a EFJ 550 it is very similar to a 557 which is just higher output power. I may have a book but I can't get to it for almost two weeks. If there is nobody that can answer your question before then I will look up the book and let you know. I have to ask, what is he going to use the 550 for? They are bad about harmonics because of the varactor diode tripler in the final. The receivers ain't that hot either! The 559 radios are a much better unit, I have built several repeaters out of them as well as the 530's. Very dependable radios. Paul WB5IDM -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of tony dinkel Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 3:17 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Johnson 550 question any one of y'all got a johnson 550 manual. I'm trying to get one powered up for a friend and have no power cord. I have ground on pin 1, +12 on pin 4. Where else do I need to put +12? tnx, td wb6mie Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] For Sale
I am sure you are not asking sixty five thousand dollars for your meter. Just trying to have a little fun with your typo. 73, Kevin, K9HX At 09:27 PM 8/22/2005, you wrote: OK. You certainly have a right to an opinion. I received a price range from Kevin and it seemed fair to me. Thanks for your interest though. Jim - Original Message - From: Kevin Berlen, K9HX [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 21:13 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] For Sale $65,000?? seems a BIT high to me!! :^) 73, Kevin, K9HX At 08:29 PM 8/22/2005, you wrote: From an estate: Motorola SINAD meter. Model R1013A. Perfect condition and I'm told never used. With manual and original box which is falling apart. Great for tuning up those receivers. $65.000 and I'll ship to lower 48 states. Tnx Kevin for the permission. Jim McLaughlin WA9FPT [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] For Sale
Looks like a good price to me. $69.00 at http://www.epcom.net/PDF/specials/new-merchandise.pdf Wayne, AI9Q -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Berlen, K9HX Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 7:13 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] For Sale $65,000?? seems a BIT high to me!! :^) 73, Kevin, K9HX At 08:29 PM 8/22/2005, you wrote: From an estate: Motorola SINAD meter. Model R1013A. Perfect condition and I'm told never used. With manual and original box which is falling apart. Great for tuning up those receivers. $65.000 and I'll ship to lower 48 states. Tnx Kevin for the permission. Jim McLaughlin WA9FPT [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.13/78 - Release Date: 8/19/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.13/78 - Release Date: 8/19/2005 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Motorola SINAD Meter
Sorry Kevinbut YES folks I made a typo, a mistake, a boob bo a screwup. What more do you wish me to say..I would like Sixty Five dollars and I'll ship. NOT 65k. Hopefully this will straighten things out. Jim WA9FPT Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] APRS string/transmissions interspersed with voice
So long as you tell me which repeater so I won't listen to that frequency ... :( Neil - WA6KLA quahauq wrote: Could an APRS string be interspersed with voice on a repeater with no problem? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] APRS string/transmissions interspersed with voice
I heard of it deployed on a repeater with CTCSS only on the voice transmissions,great if you have a decoder in all your radios! Neil McKie wrote: So long as you tell me which repeater so I won't listen to that frequency ... :( Neil - WA6KLA quahauq wrote: Could an APRS string be interspersed with voice on a repeater with no problem? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Johnson 550 question
Think I have a couple of the 559's somewhere in my garage. The 559 should be the Fleetcom II's ... Neil - WA6KLA Paul Finch wrote: TD, If that is a EFJ 550 it is very similar to a 557 which is just higher output power. I may have a book but I can't get to it for almost two weeks. If there is nobody that can answer your question before then I will look up the book and let you know. I have to ask, what is he going to use the 550 for? They are bad about harmonics because of the varactor diode tripler in the final. The receivers ain't that hot either! The 559 radios are a much better unit, I have built several repeaters out of them as well as the 530's. Very dependable radios. Paul WB5IDM Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] RG-142 / RG-400 Motorola Duplexer jumper Question
Hi All, I recently pick up a Motorola T-1504 Duplexer that has RG-214 jumpers on it I've been told or have read in Moto's manual for the 1504's: Use RG-142 (have read this and was told to use RG-400 instead) Use Silver PL-259 .. (Crimp on or Solder? Thoughts?) I have the lengths of the coax from the manual on the T-1504. My local source for these cables is now a silent key, so if anyone can refer to a good source for the cable/connectors that would be nice.. I've been told The Wireman is pretty good. Thanks all! Brian, WD9HSY YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] RG-142 / RG-400 Motorola Duplexer jumper Question
Brian, It's odd that your T-1504 duplexer has RG-214 jumpers on it- all of the ones I have seen used RG-142. You can download the Motorola manual for this duplexer on the Repeater-Builder site. RG-142 and RG-400 cable have identical electrical characteristics, but the BIG difference between them is that RG-142 has a solid steel center conductor and RG-400 has a stranded copper center conductor. The silver plating over copper cladding on the steel center conductor of the RG-142 give it identical RF performance to the RG-400, but it won't hold up to repeated flexing. Since duplexer jumpers normally stay put, you can use either type in this application. Silver-plated crimp connectors will give the best performance with either RG-142 or RG-400 cable. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, I recently pick up a Motorola T-1504 Duplexer that has RG-214 jumpers on it I've been told or have read in Moto's manual for the 1504's: Use RG-142 (have read this and was told to use RG-400 instead)Use Silver PL-259 .. (Crimp on or Solder? Thoughts?) I have the lengths of the coax from the manual on the T-1504. My local source for these cables is now a silent key, so if anyone can refer to a good source for the cable/connectors that would be nice.. I've been told The Wireman is pretty good. Thanks all!Brian, WD9HSY --- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS + Visit your group Repeater-Builder on the web. + To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] + Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
