Re: [Repeater-Builder] repeater ant for 900 mhz

2005-11-20 Thread Richard D. Reese
Check with any tower owners in your area.  Many have old paging antennas 
that were abandoned in place.  I received mine free that way.

73 Rich  WA8DBW
http://www.wa8dbw.ifip.com
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[Repeater-Builder] Any info on programming and mods on these Relm radios

2005-11-20 Thread Ronnie Steve Rice
Anyone have any info on programming these radios? I aquired 2 radios 
with a repeater control set up as a repeater but not finding much 
info. There is some confusion because Relm has an older RMU45NB and 
then the newer version. I have the older version with a keypad on 
front. I tried the mod on the Relm group but it is not the same as 
mine.  Thanks Steve N4YZA







 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] repeater ant for 900 mhz

2005-11-20 Thread Joe
 As someone else suggested, contact a paging company.  Just be sure to test it, 
as some were used in combined transmitter situations and may have had 1000+ 
watts applied to them.  Lightning damaged was also a problem.  With paging 
companies folding and downsizing, you may even be able to find a new spare 
antenna.

Where are you located?

73, Joe, K1ike

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[Repeater-Builder] Flash Technology Tower Lighting

2005-11-20 Thread Doug Zastrow





Hello All,

In return for free tower space our ham club baby sitsa 
360 ft. guyedtower. Looking for anyone with real-world experience 
with Flash Technology FH-324 red/white flash tower obstruction 
lighting.

In the 18 month period following new installation all three 
red 'beacons' have failed. Tower mounted flash heads have a coupling 
transformer, trigger transformer, RC network and flash tube.

In red beacon failures how often has trouble been in 
components *other* than the flash tube?

Is ittrue red flash tube shelf-life is six months or 
less?

What has the real-world life expectancy (in operation) of the 
red flash tubes been?

FYI, trouble was isolated to the flash heads by swapping 
cables at the Power Controllers. Trouble stayed with the flash head. 
Flash heads failed in succession over a period of 4-5 months.

Moderator: If this is too far OT don't hesitate to 
kill.

TIA...


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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Flash Technology Tower Lighting

2005-11-20 Thread Eric Lemmon
Doug,

I hope your Ham club did not accept any responsibility for the operation
or maintenance of the tower lighting, because some of the most severe
fines and penalties are for failure to have the tower properly lighted.
Fines of $10,000 per day have been levied for lighting violations, so
you should avoid even the appearance of being responsible in any way for
such equipment.

That said, it is not normal for strobes to fail in such a short time.
Although I have no experience with Flash Technology equipment, I do know
that most strobes in continuous operation should last at least two
years- if they are operated within their specifications.  If too much
power is dissipated in the flash tube, its lifetime will be profoundly
curtailed.  It is possible that the technician who installed the strobe
equipment simply left the power setting at maximum.  Contact the
manufacturer for specific technical information.

Information and links about the lighting requirements for towers can be
found here:

http://www.fcc.gov/mb/policy/dtv/lighting.html

and the FAA Advisory Circular can be found here:

http://www.airweb.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgAdvisoryCircular.nsf/0/736f762742f45ab9862569ee0077ef5e/$FILE/AC70-7460-1K.pdf

When a flashing beacon atop a tower fails, the FAA Flight Service
Station must be notified immediately so that a NOTAM (Notice to Airmen)
may be published to warn pilots of the danger.  The penalties for
failure to report a tower light outage are severe, and the liabilities
for an aircraft accident resulting from collision with an unlit tower
can run into many millions of dollars.  Most tower owners invest in
automated monitoring systems that will send a pager and telephone
notification to the responsible people and to a central alarm office
when an outage occurs.

If your tower does not have a monitoring system, someone should visually
check at least once each day to ensure that the lights are working.

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY

Doug Zastrow wrote:

 Hello All, In return for free tower space our ham club baby sits a 360
 ft. guyed tower.  Looking for anyone with real-world experience with
 Flash Technology FH-324 red/white flash tower obstruction lighting. In
 the 18 month period following new installation all three red 'beacons'
 have failed.  Tower mounted flash heads have a coupling transformer,
 trigger transformer, RC network and flash tube. In red beacon failures
 how often has trouble been in components *other* than the flash
 tube? Is it true red flash tube shelf-life is six months or less? What
 has the real-world life expectancy (in operation) of the red flash
 tubes been? FYI, trouble was isolated to the flash heads by swapping
 cables at the Power Controllers.  Trouble stayed with the flash head.
 Flash heads failed in succession over a period of 4-5
 months. Moderator: If this is too far OT don't hesitate to
 kill. TIA...  Doug Zastrow





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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Flash Technology Tower Lighting

2005-11-20 Thread Steve Bosshard \(NU5D\)










Early Flash Technology strobes had lots of
trouble with the energy from the flash causing O2 to evolve into O3 that is
highly corrosive and caused the socketed ICs on the controller board to
make poor contact in the sockets  later on they added a vapor shield
between the chamber that houses the tube and the housing for the electronics 
Dont know much about shelf life, but suspect it should be years and not
months, and also several years of service between failures. Sorry I am not
much help, Steve NU5D













From:
Repeater-Builder@Yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Doug Zastrow
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2005
10:42 AM
To:
Repeater-Builder@Yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Flash Technology
 Tower Lighting







Hello All,











In return for free tower space our ham club baby
sitsa 360 ft. guyedtower. Looking for anyone with real-world
experience with Flash Technology FH-324 red/white flash tower obstruction
lighting.











In the 18 month period following new installation all
three red 'beacons' have failed. Tower mounted flash heads have a
coupling transformer, trigger transformer, RC network and flash tube.











In red beacon failures how often has trouble been in
components *other* than the flash tube?











Is ittrue red flash tube shelf-life is six
months or less?











What has the real-world life expectancy (in operation)
of the red flash tubes been?











FYI, trouble was isolated to the flash heads by
swapping cables at the Power Controllers. Trouble stayed with the flash
head. Flash heads failed in succession over a period of 4-5 months.











Moderator: If this is too far OT don't hesitate to
kill.











TIA...

















Doug Zastrow































  




  
  
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: Flash Technology Tower Lighting

2005-11-20 Thread Coy Hilton
Also be wary of thoes who think IF 50% power is good then 100% 
power is twice as good.

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Steve Bosshard \(NU5D\) 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Early Flash Technology strobes had lots of trouble with the energy 
from the
 flash causing O2 to evolve into O3 that is highly corrosive and 
caused the
 socketed IC's on the controller board to make poor contact in the 
sockets -
 later on they added a vapor shield between the chamber that houses 
the tube
 and the housing for the electronics - Don't know much about shelf 
life, but
 suspect it should be years and not months, and also several years 
of service
 between failures.  Sorry I am not much help,  Steve NU5D
 
  
 
  
 
   _  
 
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Doug Zastrow
 Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2005 10:42 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Flash Technology Tower Lighting
 
  
 
 Hello All,
 
  
 
 In return for free tower space our ham club baby sits a 360 ft. 
guyed tower.
 Looking for anyone with real-world experience with Flash 
Technology FH-324
 red/white flash tower obstruction lighting.
 
  
 
 In the 18 month period following new installation all three 
red 'beacons'
 have failed.  Tower mounted flash heads have a coupling 
transformer, trigger
 transformer, RC network and flash tube.
 
  
 
 In red beacon failures how often has trouble been in components 
*other* than
 the flash tube?
 
  
 
 Is it true red flash tube shelf-life is six months or less?
 
  
 
 What has the real-world life expectancy (in operation) of the red 
flash
 tubes been?
 
  
 
 FYI, trouble was isolated to the flash heads by swapping cables at 
the Power
 Controllers.  Trouble stayed with the flash head.  Flash heads 
failed in
 succession over a period of 4-5 months.
 
  
 
 Moderator: If this is too far OT don't hesitate to kill.
 
  
 
 TIA...
 
  
 
  
 
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] repeater ant for 900 mhz

2005-11-20 Thread Paul Finch
I have my transmit antenna up already thanks to the now defunct Link-Two
Communications.  They left me holding a bill for several thousand dollars in
back rent on the tower.  I do have their worthless paging transmitter here
if anyone needs a 900 MHz paging base.  I have to admit, this transmitter is
one of their later models that was actually pretty good, they still sell
them under a different name but still in League City, Texas.  Guess I could
High-grade the Amp and have 300 watts on one of my 900 MHz Ham frequencies!

Paul


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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Richard D. Reese
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2005 6:14 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] repeater ant for 900 mhz


Check with any tower owners in your area.  Many have old paging antennas
that were abandoned in place.  I received mine free that way.

73 Rich  WA8DBW
http://www.wa8dbw.ifip.com
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Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2005 12:27 AM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] repeater ant for 900 mhz


 What are the recommendations for a repeater antenna for 900?






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Re: [Repeater-Builder] repeater ant for 900 mhz

2005-11-20 Thread JOHN MACKEY
I am in Portland, Oregon.

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Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] repeater ant for 900 mhz

  As someone else suggested, contact a paging company.  Just be sure to test
it, as some were used in combined transmitter situations and may have had
1000+ watts applied to them.  Lightning damaged was also a problem.  With
paging companies folding and downsizing, you may even be able to find a new
spare antenna.
 
 Where are you located?
 
 73, Joe, K1ike
 
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[Repeater-Builder] repeater ant for 900 mhz

2005-11-20 Thread JOHN MACKEY
Does anyone have any working experience with the Comet KP-20 or 
the CFC-771?

http://www.cometantenna.com/products.php?CatID=1famID=5childID=3






 
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Flash Technology Tower Lighting

2005-11-20 Thread Paul Finch





Doug,

Join 
the Tower Pro group, it is not for Hams though. Ask any question you want 
about towers, no Ham stuff though,

Paul


  -Original Message-From: 
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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Doug 
  ZastrowSent: Sunday, November 20, 2005 10:42 AMTo: 
  Repeater-Builder@Yahoogroups.comSubject: [Repeater-Builder] Flash 
  Technology Tower Lighting
  Hello All,
  
  In return for free tower space our ham club baby sitsa 
  360 ft. guyedtower. Looking for anyone with real-world experience 
  with Flash Technology FH-324 red/white flash tower obstruction 
  lighting.
  
  In the 18 month period following new installation all three 
  red 'beacons' have failed. Tower mounted flash heads have a coupling 
  transformer, trigger transformer, RC network and flash tube.
  
  In red beacon failures how often has trouble been in 
  components *other* than the flash tube?
  
  Is ittrue red flash tube shelf-life is six months or 
  less?
  
  What has the real-world life expectancy (in operation) of 
  the red flash tubes been?
  
  FYI, trouble was isolated to the flash heads by swapping 
  cables at the Power Controllers. Trouble stayed with the flash 
  head. Flash heads failed in succession over a period of 4-5 
  months.
  
  Moderator: If this is too far OT don't hesitate to 
  kill.
  
  TIA...
  
  
  Doug Zastrow
  
  













  




  
  
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] repeater ant for 900 mhz

2005-11-20 Thread Mark Tomany



John,

Did you notice that these are rated for 50W max?? They are also described as "access point" antennas - I assume that they are referring to computer-type WAN or something similar. Bandwidth is probably acceptable, but power handling would bemy big question...

Mark - N9WYSJOHN MACKEY [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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[Repeater-Builder] GE Mastr II rack mount Help please UHF88b model

2005-11-20 Thread w7nikw7nik
Hi
I have GE mstrII rack mount uhf. AU88b last four of the model. I have 
read your web pages you stated that the ge pl ctss board does not 
transmit pl tone . On my system board I have a card that is 
(PL19D4172GIGG rev b with 110.9) . I hook up the controller per 
repeater builder web page. Works great as long as keep the GE stock 
controller card in  with the repeat disabled. My problem is I would 
like to have a pl to be transmited. The recieve side works fine  drops 
the voltage with the proper tone .  I have the controller connected to 
RUS 0v-3.88v ,cas has 0v-9.8v just testing info for you .
I would like to find out a way to remove the ge internal controller and 
have the pl for recieve and transmit . The external contoller does not 
have ctss option. I have the manual been reading  don't want to put a 
jumper from decode output to exciter connection without some facts. 







 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] repeater ant for 900 mhz

2005-11-20 Thread JOHN MACKEY
I printed the spec's, but hadn't had the time to actually sit down  look at
them.

I agree, with a 50 watt limit, that is dis-appointing.  Also, I think Comet 
Diamond over-rate thier antennas, so perhaps we should not count on putting
more than about 25 watts into them.

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From: Mark Tomany [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 John,
  
 Did you notice that these are rated for 50W max??  They are also described
as access point antennas - I assume that they are referring to computer-type
WAN or something similar.  Bandwidth is probably acceptable, but power
handling would be my big question...
  
 Mark - N9WYS
 
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 the CFC-771?
 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] GE Mastr II rack mount Help please UHF88b model

2005-11-20 Thread Mike Morris WA6ILQ




At 03:47 PM 11/20/05, you wrote:
Hi
I have GE mstrII rack mount uhf. AU88b last four of the model. I have

read your web pages you stated that the ge pl ctss board does not 
transmit pl tone . On my system board I have a card that is 
(PL19D4172GIGG rev b with 110.9) . 
That number does not seem right.
I'll bet that you have a 19D417261G6 board.
I hook up the controller per 
repeater builder web page. Works great as long as keep the GE stock 

controller card in with the repeat disabled. My problem is I would

like to have a pl to be transmited. The recieve side works fine
drops 
the voltage with the proper tone . I have the controller connected
to 
RUS 0v-3.88v ,cas has 0v-9.8v just testing info for you.
I would like to find out a way to remove the ge internal controller and

have the pl for recieve and transmit . The external contoller does not

have ctss option. 
Decode, encode, or both?
I have the manual been
reading don't want to put a 
jumper from decode output to exciter connection without some facts.

The decode out signal is a logic level that feeds to the repeater
controller.
If you do have a 19D417261G6 board look at LBI4743 at 
http://www.repeater-builder.com/ge/lbi-master-list.html
According to that LBI your G6 card is a decode only version.
To do what you want you will need to find an encode-decode 
version of the board you have (ending in G1, G2 or G5 - the 
G5 will do split tones), an encode-decoder model of a different 
board the 19D432500 is the dip switch board, and is covered 
in LBI-31056. The G1 board is the encode-decode board, the 
G2 is encode-only, G3 is decode-only.
Or you can just add an external encoder. Several are available,

or you can build your own - years ago, I made my own encoder
from a simple one transistor twin-T oscillator with a one-transistor

buffer amp. Using polystyrene caps and metal film resistors
gave
me an encoder that was stable from 30 degrees to 120 degrees F.
Mike WA6ILQ














  




  
  
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OT, long and boring-WAS RE: [Repeater-Builder] Flash Technology Tower Lighting

2005-11-20 Thread Paul Finch
Doug and Eric,

I will add a few points here, I own and run a 500 foot tall tower in Texas.
I purchased a new TWR dual mode strobe system ($17,000.00) along with the
tower.  At the time it seemed to be a good choice, hindsight is 20-20.

The first two years the red mode system never ran for more than 4 months at
a time, TWR was at my site 7 times those first two years.  They made one
last trip at the two year mark, I have to admit they did all of these
repairs to this point under a one-year warranty.  At two years they reworked
all the hatchplates and replaced all strobe tubes.  The system ran for
eleven months and went out again.  The only problem I ever had was the red
mode night strobes, the day mode worked fine so I let it run in the
fail-safe mode because I did not have the money to fix the system.  TWR
had quoted me $1,500.00 per hatchplate to repair the system, that did not
include the tower crew labor.

After two years of running in the fail-safe mode the whole system crashed
and burned.  I could look up at the strobes and see what looked like flames,
I shut the system down and turned in a NOTAM, Notice to Airmen.  About
that time I asked the Tower Pro group what they thought of the system I had,
not much good was said.  I also found out that the white strobe fail-safe
mode does not satisfy the FAA or FCC as to tower lights at night, I was
actually in violation of the FAA rules!

After several NOTAM's and several calls to TWR with quotes starting at
$1,500.00 per hatchplate finally going down to $500.00 per hatchplate I gave
up and got more advice from the Tower Pro group.  They guided me and told me
what I needed to look for.  I had a tower guy come and remove all
hatchplates and bring them down to the ground.

Once on the ground it was obvious what was wrong, the cheap terminal strip
used by TWR had completely burned up from the 600 volts positive and
negative DC that made the system work.  TWR sends up those two voltages plus
a trigger voltage to fire the strobe.  I ran the manufacture of the terminal
strip down and their specifications said the strip was only good to 500
volts, you get the picture?  Very poor design!

I contacted a Tower light company in Tennessee called ITL, they had all of
the aftermarket parts I needed to get the system back up at a price of
$26.00 per hatchplate, again, get the picture?  TWR has a tremendous markup
on their parts!

I sent the hatchplates back up the tower, the guy connected them and they
have been running solid (knock wood) for almost two years now.

One other thing, the tower lighting industry (TWR and Flash Tech) are trying
to petition the FAA and FCC to make the use of Non-OEM parts in a tower
lighting system a violation, sort of like Motorola tried to do back in the
late 70's and early 80's.  Motorola tried to get the FCC to make a rule that
only Motorola parts could be used in the radios to keep them type accepted,
that ploy did not work then and I hope it does not work now.  Most private
tower owners can't afford Flash Tech or TWR prices, not to mention their
reliability.

Like Eric said, be very careful, the way the rules are written, every
licensee on the tower is liable for up to a $10.000.00 fine if the lights
are not working properly.  Also, be very careful with the red mode LED
technology, the advertised 5 year warranties on these systems are not being
backed by some of the companies that sell them.

Kevin, sorry for the OT post but felt it was important.

Paul
WB5IDM



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Doug,

I hope your Ham club did not accept any responsibility for the operation
or maintenance of the tower lighting, because some of the most severe
fines and penalties are for failure to have the tower properly lighted.
Fines of $10,000 per day have been levied for lighting violations, so
you should avoid even the appearance of being responsible in any way for
such equipment.

That said, it is not normal for strobes to fail in such a short time.
Although I have no experience with Flash Technology equipment, I do know
that most strobes in continuous operation should last at least two
years- if they are operated within their specifications.  If too much
power is dissipated in the flash tube, its lifetime will be profoundly
curtailed.  It is possible that the technician who installed the strobe
equipment simply left the power setting at maximum.  Contact the
manufacturer for specific technical information.

Information and links about the lighting requirements for towers can be
found here:

http://www.fcc.gov/mb/policy/dtv/lighting.html

and the FAA Advisory Circular can be found here:

http://www.airweb.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgAdvisoryCircula
r.nsf/0/736f762742f45ab9862569ee0077ef5e/$FILE/AC70-7460-1K.pdf


Re: OT, long and boring-WAS RE: [Repeater-Builder] Flash Technology Tower Lighting

2005-11-20 Thread Kevin Custer
Paul Finch wrote:

I will add a few points here... big snip.

Kevin, sorry for the OT post but felt it was important.


Posts like these are not to be considered OT, as repeaters wouldn't be 
on the air without towers
But, thanks for the consideration.

kuggie




 
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] repeater ant for 900 mhz

2005-11-20 Thread Paul Finch
John and Group,

We have been looking for a 146 MHz, 220 MHz and a 440 MHz tri band antenna
for an installation here in our local fire station.  Does anyone have any?
So far we can't find anything.

Paul


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Does anyone have any working experience with the Comet KP-20 or
the CFC-771?

http://www.cometantenna.com/products.php?CatID=1famID=5childID=3







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RE: OT, long and boring-WAS RE: [Repeater-Builder] Flash Technology Tower Lighting

2005-11-20 Thread Paul Finch
Thanks.  I do understand the big snip, I did warn everybody..

Paul


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Paul Finch wrote:

I will add a few points here... big snip.

Kevin, sorry for the OT post but felt it was important.


Posts like these are not to be considered OT, as repeaters wouldn't be
on the air without towers
But, thanks for the consideration.

kuggie





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Re: OT, long and boring-WAS RE: [Repeater-Builder] Flash Technology Tower Lighting

2005-11-20 Thread mch
Make sure you file comments if that happens and relay your experience
with the poor reliability. I'm sure the FAA would prefer a reliable
system over an OEM one.

Joe M.

Paul Finch wrote:
 
 One other thing, the tower lighting industry (TWR and Flash Tech) are trying
 to petition the FAA and FCC to make the use of Non-OEM parts in a tower
 lighting system a violation, sort of like Motorola tried to do back in the
 late 70's and early 80's.  Motorola tried to get the FCC to make a rule that
 only Motorola parts could be used in the radios to keep them type accepted,
 that ploy did not work then and I hope it does not work now.  Most private
 tower owners can't afford Flash Tech or TWR prices, not to mention their
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Dayton Hamvention Input Wanted.

2005-11-20 Thread Jim
skipp025 wrote:
 Dayton Hamvention Input Wanted.
 
 My friend Tom is directly involved with the Dayton 
 Hamvention.  His position in the 2006 year project 
 is more toward the public relations side. 
 
 He has asked me to poll you folks for new ideas, 
 opinions and information for the 2006 Hamvention. 
 
 The primary goal of this poll is to source ideas, 
 which will be used to make the whole Hamvention 
 event more attractive to non-hams... ie spouses 
 and persons not normally attending the Hamvention. 
 
 The quesion is: What would it take to get your 
 spouse to want to come to the Dayton Hamvention or 
 spend time in the Greater Dayton Area while you 
 attend the event? 
 
 We're looking for ideas regarding things we can offer 
 at the Hamvention and off site.  One example might 
 be a special shuttle service to available local 
 shopping, tours of historical locations and culture. 
 

A list of good pubs would work!
;c)
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] please any one can told me what is the usefull for the deviation in the repater ????

2005-11-20 Thread Jim
hussin reda wrote:
 Please any one can told me what is the usefull for the deviation 
 in the repater  
 
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] repeater ant for 900 mhz

2005-11-20 Thread JOHN MACKEY
I've never seen a 146/220/440 antenna that I would feel comfortable putting
into repeater service.

I have used a Comet GP-15 on 146 MHz  440 MHz with good results, it is a
tri-band antenna which also happens to work on 52 MHz but I have never used it
on 52 MHz.

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 John and Group,
 
 We have been looking for a 146 MHz, 220 MHz and a 440 MHz tri band antenna
 for an installation here in our local fire station.  Does anyone have any?
 So far we can't find anything.
 
 Paul
 
 
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 Does anyone have any working experience with the Comet KP-20 or
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[Repeater-Builder] Factory Ham 2C GE Icoms on Ebay 444.825RX/449.825TX, Never Used

2005-11-20 Thread n8rqu
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=5833026925

 You won't have to worry about recrystalling or temperature
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