[Repeater-Builder] Re: RF RCA Plugs and/or cables

2007-06-18 Thread Ryan
Try Hamtronics in NY state. I bought a few a while back For a Ge Mastr 
Project.

Ryan n3ssl 


--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Bob M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Did anybody ever come up with a source for the short
 RCA plugs that fit older Motorola and GE radios? Even
 some with RG58 molded on would be useful.
 
 Or is the solution to buy a particular hollow audio
 RCA plug, snip the end off, and round it over?
 
 Bob M.
 
 
   

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] RF RCA Plugs and/or cables

2007-06-18 Thread Bob M.
I see they have RCA connectors in the audio section,
but that's the only place.

Typically these have longer center pins.

The RF-style I'm looking for has a short center pin,
and the ones I've seen on cable have no outer cover;
the braid is soldered directly to the outer shell.

Was there a specific part number for the RF-style RCA
plugs at www.therfc.com?

Bob M.
==
--- Chuck Kelsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The RF Connection.
 
 Chuck
 WB2EDV
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Bob M. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2007 8:09 PM
 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] RF RCA Plugs and/or
 cables
 
 
  Did anybody ever come up with a source for the
 short
  RCA plugs that fit older Motorola and GE radios?
 Even
  some with RG58 molded on would be useful.
 
  Or is the solution to buy a particular hollow
 audio
  RCA plug, snip the end off, and round it over?
 
  Bob M.


   

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: RF RCA Plugs and/or cables

2007-06-18 Thread Bob M.
They show some right-angle RF RCA plugs for RG174
coax. That's a bit small and probably won't work with
RG58 or RG400.

Any other sources?

Bob M.
==
--- Ryan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Try Hamtronics in NY state. I bought a few a while
 back For a Ge Mastr 
 Project.
 
 Ryan n3ssl 
 
 --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Bob M.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Did anybody ever come up with a source for the
 short
  RCA plugs that fit older Motorola and GE radios?
 Even
  some with RG58 molded on would be useful.
  
  Or is the solution to buy a particular hollow
 audio
  RCA plug, snip the end off, and round it over?
  
  Bob M.


  

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] RF RCA Plugs and/or cables

2007-06-18 Thread Chuck Kelsey
Call and tell Joel what you are looking for. I don't believe that they are 
listed on the website.

Chuck



- Original Message - 
From: Bob M. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 6:07 AM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] RF RCA Plugs and/or cables


I see they have RCA connectors in the audio section,
 but that's the only place.

 Typically these have longer center pins.

 The RF-style I'm looking for has a short center pin,
 and the ones I've seen on cable have no outer cover;
 the braid is soldered directly to the outer shell.

 Was there a specific part number for the RF-style RCA
 plugs at www.therfc.com?

 Bob M.
 ==
 --- Chuck Kelsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The RF Connection.

 Chuck
 WB2EDV

 - Original Message - 
 From: Bob M. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2007 8:09 PM
 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] RF RCA Plugs and/or
 cables


  Did anybody ever come up with a source for the
 short
  RCA plugs that fit older Motorola and GE radios?
 Even
  some with RG58 molded on would be useful.
 
  Or is the solution to buy a particular hollow
 audio
  RCA plug, snip the end off, and round it over?
 
  Bob M.



 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] RF RCA Plugs and/or cables

2007-06-18 Thread Chuck Kelsey
I don't know. GE used them all the time for RF. The plug with the longer pin 
would not seat properly and could short out on the other side of the jack.

Chuck
WB2EDV
  - Original Message - 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2007 11:20 PM
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] RF RCA Plugs and/or cables


  Do these things have anything that even resembles a 50 ohm impedance or do 
they typically
  look at a network that accounts for a different impedance?

  In a message dated 6/17/2007 7:19:03 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] writes:
The RF Connection.

Chuck
WB2EDV

- Original Message - 
From: Bob M. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2007 8:09 PM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] RF RCA Plugs and/or cables

 Did anybody ever come up with a source for the short
 RCA plugs that fit older Motorola and GE radios? Even
 some with RG58 molded on would be useful.

 Or is the solution to buy a particular hollow audio
 RCA plug, snip the end off, and round it over?

 Bob M.







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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: RF RCA Plugs and/or cables

2007-06-18 Thread jgielis
Yea Bob

try hamtronics
they use a RF RCA in their rptr kits,
and the unit is available as an accessory.

Hope this is what you are after..

John

http://www.hamtronics.com/accys.htm

Bob M. wrote:
 They show some right-angle RF RCA plugs for RG174
 coax. That's a bit small and probably won't work with
 RG58 or RG400.
 
 Any other sources?
 
 Bob M.
 ==


Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: RF RCA Plugs and/or cables

2007-06-18 Thread Thomas Oliver
I remove the RCA's from the small jumpers inside Mastr II's and MVP's and
make up my own jumpers, just use some sharp side cutters to remove the
black plastic and then de solder the coax, clean them up and add coax of
choice.

tom


 [Original Message]
 From: jgielis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Date: 6/18/2007 10:53:26 PM
 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: RF RCA Plugs and/or cables

 Yea Bob

 try hamtronics
 they use a RF RCA in their rptr kits,
 and the unit is available as an accessory.

 Hope this is what you are after..

 John

 http://www.hamtronics.com/accys.htm

 Bob M. wrote:
  They show some right-angle RF RCA plugs for RG174
  coax. That's a bit small and probably won't work with
  RG58 or RG400.
  
  Any other sources?
  
  Bob M.
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Would You..... tower height question

2007-06-18 Thread Larry Rappaport
Steve S. Bosshard (NU5D) wrote:
 
 
 Generally 199 ft unless you are close to an airport. There is a 110 ft
 tower that requires registration but no painting or lighting because it
 is close to the Temple, Texas airport.
 
 Steve NU5D
 
 texasexpediter wrote:
   What is the maximum height a tower can be without falling under all
   the lighting, painting etc. regulations?

Ditto.  We've just been through the same exact issue.  Normally it's 
199', but if you're near an airport, there's a requirement for any tower 
within 20,000 ft from a runway.  See:

http://www.faa.gov/airports_airtraffic/airports/regional_guidance/central/contruction/part77

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[Repeater-Builder] For Sale :Motorola Astro Saber Model II, UHF, 438-482 MHz Portable

2007-06-18 Thread Steve
Motorola Astro Saber Model II UHF 438-482 MHz .
Astro IMBE .
Comes with : Battery , Charger , Pocket Charger , Antenna , 2 Speaker 
Mic's .

H Hand-Held/Portable
04 Astro Series
R 438-482 MHz
D 4.0-5.0 W
F Limited Keypad, with Display
9 Variable/Programmable
P Programmable
W Programmable
7 Standard
A Major Change Package
N Standard Package


Options Installed on this Flashcode: 

Q806/G806 IMBE / APCO-25 Digital Operation 
H35/G48 Conventional Operation 

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[Repeater-Builder] Motorola Astro Saber Model II, UHF, 438-482 MHz Portable

2007-06-18 Thread Steve
Motorola Astro Saber Model II UHF 438-482 MHz .
Astro IMBE .
Comes with : Battery , Charger , Pocket Charger , Antenna , 2 Speaker 
Mic's .

H Hand-Held/Portable
04 Astro Series
R 438-482 MHz
D 4.0-5.0 W
F Limited Keypad, with Display
9 Variable/Programmable
P Programmable
W Programmable
7 Standard
A Major Change Package
N Standard Package


Options Installed on this Flashcode: 

Q806/G806 IMBE / APCO-25 Digital Operation 
H35/G48 Conventional Operation 

$400 Plus SH .



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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: RF RCA Plugs and/or cables

2007-06-18 Thread Bob M.
These are right-angle and only for RG174. I'm looking
for a straight plug that will handle RG58 or RG400.

Bob M.
==
--- jgielis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yea Bob
 
 try hamtronics
 they use a RF RCA in their rptr kits,
 and the unit is available as an accessory.
 
 Hope this is what you are after..
 
 John
 
 http://www.hamtronics.com/accys.htm
 
 Bob M. wrote:
  They show some right-angle RF RCA plugs for RG174
  coax. That's a bit small and probably won't work
 with
  RG58 or RG400.
  
  Any other sources?
  
  Bob M.
  ==


   

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: RF RCA Plugs and/or cables

2007-06-18 Thread Bob M.
To do that, one needs a supply of GE or Motorola
cables to do that with. The problem is, I don't have
the cables to start with and need to make my own,
hence the search for just the connectors.

Bob M.
==
--- Thomas Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I remove the RCA's from the small jumpers inside
 Mastr II's and MVP's and
 make up my own jumpers, just use some sharp side
 cutters to remove the
 black plastic and then de solder the coax, clean
 them up and add coax of
 choice.
 
 tom
 
 
  [Original Message]
  From: jgielis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  Date: 6/18/2007 10:53:26 PM
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: RF RCA Plugs
 and/or cables
 
  Yea Bob
 
  try hamtronics
  they use a RF RCA in their rptr kits,
  and the unit is available as an accessory.
 
  Hope this is what you are after..
 
  John
 
  http://www.hamtronics.com/accys.htm
 
  Bob M. wrote:
   They show some right-angle RF RCA plugs for
 RG174
   coax. That's a bit small and probably won't work
 with
   RG58 or RG400.
   
   Any other sources?
   
   Bob M.
   ==


   

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[Repeater-Builder] Coax

2007-06-18 Thread Gerald Bishop
Hi- Kind of off subject- our group was given a bunch of RG177U,Looks
to be heavy duty coax. Would anyone know impedance ,and if it can be
used for repeater usage? Tks,Jerry



Re: [Repeater-Builder] Coax

2007-06-18 Thread Dexter McIntyre W4DEX
Gerald Bishop wrote:
 Hi- Kind of off subject- our group was given a bunch of RG177U,Looks
 to be heavy duty coax. Would anyone know impedance ,and if it can be
 used for repeater usage? Tks,Jerry

Seems to be 50 ohm:  http://www.rfcafe.com/references/electrical/coax_chart.htm

Dex


Re: [Repeater-Builder] Coax

2007-06-18 Thread cruising7388
 
Man, that's some beefy conventional coax. It's a 50 ohm cable.The center  
conductor is .195, with two silver plated shields.Attenuation is 2.5 db per  
100', compared to 5.0 db 100' for RG-214 and 1.42db per 100' for 1/2 Heliax  
hardline. It's a high power cable designed for RF voltages up to 11,000 and 
I'll  
hazard the guess that a typical application would be high power radar 
systems.  Nothing wrong with this stuff but where you might run into difficulty 
is  
scrounging connectors for it without paying an arm and a leg. The male  
connector
is a UG204/CU or UG204/DU. Long runs of this stuff used in an environment  
subject to wide temperature variations should use a captive contact connector  
which is available from Kings Connector, part no. KN59-177. It may end up being 
 more cost effective to sell the stuff for scrap and buy 1/2 hardline and  
connectors with the proceeds. 
 
 
In a message dated 6/18/2007 8:46:37 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Hi-  Kind of off subject- our group was given a bunch of RG177U,Looks
to be  heavy duty coax. Would anyone know impedance ,and if it can be
used for  repeater usage? Tks,Jerry








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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Tennants Fined???

2007-06-18 Thread mch
Towers are an integral part of repeaters. Fines are an integral part of
towers (and usually cost more than the repeater). If you don't want to
delete it, make a filter in your email client to automatically delete
them based on the subject.

Joe M.

Richard W W Bazell Jr wrote:
 
 Hey
 
 This goes on  on. Why keep putting this on Repeater Builder Group. Need
 to keep Deleting it


Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: RF RCA Plugs and/or cables

2007-06-18 Thread Bob M.
Thanks. That's the magic part number. The description
doesn't say how many come in a pack, but MOL wants
just over $9 for them, myradiomall wants just over $7.

I seem to recall that they had a phenolic insulator,
but whatever it was, it would NOT melt when subjected
to soldering heat.

Looks like I'll be working up a small Motorola order
as I need a couple of other (in)expensive parts too.

By the way, these are just so I can connect a signal
to a UHF SpectraTAC/Micor receiver board when
installed in an 800/900 SpectraTAC chassis (those
bands have an SMA connector on the receiver).

Bob M.
==
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Maybe it was already mentioned, but I used to order
them from Motorola. They were the good RF quality ones
used in MICOR, MOCOM-70, MOTRAC, etc. radios, that
appeared to have an insulator made of ceramic
material. The Motorola Part Number was 28-82331G01,
which was a package of 3 of the good quality RCA plugs
(I still have a package of them). 

I got tired of using the local RS plugs which had a
center pin that was too long for some jacks, and often
melted while trying to solder to them. The ones sold
by Motorola were of such good quality that they were
reusable, unlike the cheap plastic RS ones.

LJ

-Original Message- 
From: Bob M. 
Sent: Jun 18, 2007 7:36 AM 
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: RF RCA Plugs
and/or cables 

To do that, one needs a supply of GE or Motorola
cables to do that with. The problem is, I don't have
the cables to start with and need to make my own,
hence the search for just the connectors.

Bob M.
==
--- Thomas Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I remove the RCA's from the small jumpers inside
 Mastr II's and MVP's and
 make up my own jumpers, just use some sharp side
 cutters to remove the
 black plastic and then de solder the coax, clean
 them up and add coax of
 choice.
 
 tom
 
  [Original Message]
  From: jgielis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  Date: 6/18/2007 10:53:26 PM
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: RF RCA Plugs
 and/or cables
 
  Yea Bob
 
  try hamtronics
  they use a RF RCA in their rptr kits,
  and the unit is available as an accessory.
 
  Hope this is what you are after..
 
  John
 
  http://www.hamtronics.com/accys.htm
 
  Bob M. wrote:
   They show some right-angle RF RCA plugs for
 RG174
   coax. That's a bit small and probably won't work
 with
   RG58 or RG400.
   
   Any other sources?
   
   Bob M.
   ==


  
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: Would You Do This?

2007-06-18 Thread Christopher Hodgdon
The value of the property is higher than what ATT sold it for.  The
tax roll value for the property is around $600,000.00.  ATT sold the
property for a lot less, because it was the only way someone was going
to buy it, as it's out in the middle of the county and not really in a
place that would be a good location for most businesses.

Over the past several years that we have been watching this site, we
have watched ATT continue to lower the price in order to sell it. 
Just because you by something at less than FMV, does not mean that's
what you are going to pay the taxes on.  They are taxing it at the FMV
of nearly $600,000.  Its not that they just said hey, lets tax him at
this.  

But some things have changed recently in Texas, regarding taxes.  Like
with vehicles.  According to the tax office in our county when you buy
and register a used car, no longer do they go off what you say you
paid or sold it for, they are going to be using the blue book value. 
Now, if that happens or not, we will have to see.  

We have talked about the tax issue and according to the county, we
should be able to removed almost 100% of the taxes do to the
non-profit use.  At this point in time the only users of the tower
would be our ARES group, our CERT program and our parent organizations
emergency operations.  In the future there might be other hams that
can use it if they wish, but most likely that will not happen as
nearly all of the 2 meter and other frequencies have already been used
out here and there really is not any room for any new repeaters, but
we'll see.

-- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
 This is deeply weird. I've never heard of (at least around here) of
any  
 taxing entity that could assign a value to any real property in
excess of fair  
 market value which is essentially the purchase price for the
property in what is 
  commonly termed an arms length transaction. I believe that most
states have  
 language in their
 Constitutions to preclude valuations in excess of FMV, that, but of
course,  
 we're talking about Texas now, where most anything can and does go.
In this 
 case  because it is going to be owned by a non-profit, there are no
taxes with 
 some  insignificant exceptions like local lighting and sanitary
districts. I'll 
 bet  the money grubbers in the assessor's office will be wailing in
their 
 beer if and  when you take title as a non-profit.
 And, of course, as a non-profit, it's perfectly OK to accept
charitable  
 donations from site users. There must be electrician blood in your
heritage  
 because you sure seem to have this wired!
  
  
  
 In a message dated 6/17/2007 7:42:30 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 We are  talking to the new owner about the site. We might be able to
 work a deal  with him to get it. He is somewhat unhappy with it, as it
 does not suit his  needs and he is paying more taxes on it, than he
 thought. He thought he  would only pay taxes on what he paid for the
 site, and no releases that he  say to pay the determined value from the
 county which is nearly 400,000 or  500, dollar more than he paid
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[Repeater-Builder] GE MVS 440-470 25W NPU20 (Combo NPFU20SS) 5ch - need programmed

2007-06-18 Thread k8hvi
I would like to get this programmed. I see where you can build
the interface and program with the PC, but this for me is a bit much
since I will program it once and then be done with it.

Is anyone here already able to program my radio(GE MVS 440-470 25W
NPU20 (Combo NPFU20SS) 5 channels)?

If so, I would gladly set it up so the return shipping and box are
ready to go. Minimal work required!! I am located near Detroit MI.

Regards, Marty / K8HVI




Re: [Repeater-Builder] GE MVS 440-470 25W NPU20 (Combo NPFU20SS) 5ch - need programmed

2007-06-18 Thread MR. B
Check this guy out.   @24.95  tune up and program and
includes shipping back to you

Ron


Programming Service for GE MVS Synthesized Radios
EBAY   Item number: 200090573390

k8hvi wrote:
 
 
 I would like to get this programmed. I see where you can build
 the interface and program with the PC, but this for me is a bit much
 since I will program it once and then be done with it.
 
 Is anyone here already able to program my radio(GE MVS 440-470 25W
 NPU20 (Combo NPFU20SS) 5 channels)?
 
 If so, I would gladly set it up so the return shipping and box are
 ready to go. Minimal work required!! I am located near Detroit MI.
 
 Regards, Marty / K8HVI
 
 
 
 
 
 
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: RF RCA Plugs and/or cables - FOUND!

2007-06-18 Thread Eric Lemmon
Bob,

Motorola still sells the low-loss RCA straight phono plugs, with ceramic
insulators.  Ask for Part Number 2882331G01.  They come in a pack of 10
plugs for $7.82, plus a small surcharge.  This is the same plug as found on
original-equipment RG-142/U jumper cables inside Micor stations.  Most other
RCA plugs on the market have lossy phenolic insulators.

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
 

-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob M.
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 7:35 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: RF RCA Plugs and/or cables

These are right-angle and only for RG174. I'm looking for a straight plug
that will handle RG58 or RG400.

Bob M.
==




RE: [Repeater-Builder] Coax

2007-06-18 Thread Eric Lemmon
Jerry,

Lucky you!  RG-177/U is good stuff.  It has double, silver-plated shields
and a solid copper center conductor.  Its attenuation is about 2.8 dB per
100 feet at 440 MHz, and about 1.1 dB per 100 feet at 2m.  Finding
constant-impedance connectors for RG-177/U cable might be a bit difficult.
Go here for the Military Spec Sheet:

www.dscc.dla.mil/Downloads/MilSpec/Docs/MIL-DTL-17/mil17ss67.pdf

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY


-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gerald Bishop
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 8:45 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Coax

Hi- Kind of off subject- our group was given a bunch of RG177U,Looks
to be heavy duty coax. Would anyone know impedance ,and if it can be
used for repeater usage? Tks,Jerry




[Repeater-Builder] Re: Would You Do This?

2007-06-18 Thread ka1jfy
Your choice.
One of the instructors used to work for my agency.
He tells tales of going all over the world doing on-site training.

Walter


--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
 Paul
  
 Does Comtrain train you on the tower you want to be climbing or do 
you  train 
 on their
 own tower?
  
 Bruce
  
  
 In a message dated 6/17/2007 4:31:55 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 Hello,
  
 Actually there are  companies out there that train tower hands, one 
is 
 Comtrain.  They are  pretty good about it.  Anyone going up my tall 
tower is 
 supposed to be  Comtrained or have some kind of certification.
  
 Paul