[Repeater-Builder] Pacific research ri300 controllers

2008-12-10 Thread Jed Barton
Hey guys,

Anyone ever run the pacific research ri300 controller?  Any thoughts on it,
good, bad?

Thanks,
Jed




[Repeater-Builder] SALES Motorola NFN6010 PL Filters for MX300/HT90-440 and other eqpt

2008-12-10 Thread Ted Bleiman K9MDM - MDM Radio
We have lowered the rpice for the PL Filters to $2.00 ea + post
wew have most tones in stock. go to www.mdmradio.com and look at the listing 
under nfn6010. Grab them while you can. quantities are not unlimited and we are 
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: Pacific research ri300 controllers

2008-12-10 Thread kk7u_seattle
I like them, but they are expensive.  They used to make a RI-310 which
replaced the factory control boards inside a Vertex VXR-5000 repeater
entirely, the RI-310 controlled the receive and transmitter
oscillators and power which meant you could do some really neat things
with macros.

The RI-300 (and 310) have a smart squelch circuit which in my
experience works quite well.  I have two of them running now on UHF GE
Mastr II stations.  I don't connect a COR line at all from the
receiver up to the controller.  It's very convenient to be able to
remotely adjust the repeater's squelch threshold.  I buy the RI-300's
with the audio delay board as well, I run 62ms delay and never, ever
hear any receiver squelch crash come out the transmitter audio.

The Pacific Research macro capability is unbelievably flexible, to the
point that it's somewhat daunting to understand as a novice user. 
Also I would not even try to deal with one of these without buying the
computer programming interface.  The Windows programming software will
save you eons of time if you are trying to do anything fancy with macros. 

We also use pairs of RI-300's with a VHF+UHF radio make cross-band
repeaters.  PacRes used to make a circuit board that replaced the
motherboard inside Vertex FTL-series mobile rigs, in much the same
fashion as the RI-310 controls the Vertex repeater.  We have several
of these for our local RACES group and they make really neat
frequency-agile cross band repeaters.

Other big advantage, the CTCSS encode/decode is built in.  You can
also run multiple tones, and you can switch the tones on/off and
change the encode and decode tones remotely with programming commands
which is also handy at times.

All-in-all the RI-300 is extremely capable and very compact, but if
you are just looking for a box that ID's and plays courtesy tones it's
probably more than you want to spend.

Feel free to contact me directly if you have any questions that I
could answer.

73 

Mark Hagler
KK7U 

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Jed Barton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hey guys,
 
 Anyone ever run the pacific research ri300 controller?  Any thoughts
on it,
 good, bad?
 
 Thanks,
 Jed





Re: [Repeater-Builder] Astron P/S question

2008-12-10 Thread Paul Gilbert
Clip the purple wire going to the crowbar.

The crowbar in the Astron is one of the most messed up deals ever.

Astron also makes and auto reset kit for the crowbar.

Or better yet, go find a Mastr II 35 amp supply and be done with it.

Paul,ZW

On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 12:33 PM, n9wys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Thanks to all who have offered suggestions – however sarcastic – about
 remedying this situation. They *all* merit consideration, and I will
 certainly do so... and will post my results!



 73 de Mark - N9WYS
  



RE: [Repeater-Builder] Pacific research ri300 controllers

2008-12-10 Thread Eric Lemmon
Jed,

I am using the RI310 controller, which is designed to be a drop-in
controller for the Vertex VXR-5000 repeater.  It is very flexible and
capable.  Best of all, you can pose any questions about its use to the
designer at the factory, and get sound advice directly from the source.
www.pacres.com

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY


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Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Pacific research ri300 controllers

Hey guys,

Anyone ever run the pacific research ri300 controller? Any thoughts on it,
good, bad?

Thanks,
Jed



[Repeater-Builder] MSF-5000 PL encode deviation

2008-12-10 Thread Ralph Hogan
Gang,
New to MSF-5000's. Great piece of hardware. But more used to working with GE
Mastr II's. Have an MSF-5000 repeater we're trying to get going on VHF. Have
experimented with both the on-board controller stand alone as well as off
board CAT. Several ee-pots to adjust in the software setting output audio
levels, but none specific to just PL encode level. We got it adjusted for 5
KHz output deviation, but noticed the PL encode deviation is a little high
at about 900 Hz. I usually like to see around 600 to 750 Hz. I couldn't find
in the manuals anywhere what Moto spec'd PL deviation at for the MSF-5000.
Looks like the PL level is a fixed percentage without an independent output
level adjust. Probably something we are doing wrong in setting levels, but
wanted to get some feedback from the group.
Thanks in advance!
Ralph W4XE




Re: [Repeater-Builder] MSF-5000 PL encode deviation

2008-12-10 Thread wd8chl
Ralph Hogan wrote:
 Gang,
 New to MSF-5000's. Great piece of hardware. But more used to working with GE
 Mastr II's. Have an MSF-5000 repeater we're trying to get going on VHF. Have
 experimented with both the on-board controller stand alone as well as off
 board CAT. Several ee-pots to adjust in the software setting output audio
 levels, but none specific to just PL encode level. We got it adjusted for 5
 KHz output deviation, but noticed the PL encode deviation is a little high
 at about 900 Hz. I usually like to see around 600 to 750 Hz. I couldn't find
 in the manuals anywhere what Moto spec'd PL deviation at for the MSF-5000.
 Looks like the PL level is a fixed percentage without an independent output
 level adjust. Probably something we are doing wrong in setting levels, but
 wanted to get some feedback from the group.
 Thanks in advance!
 Ralph W4XE

One thing I have seen some people do mistakenly is assume that the 
+/-5KHz deviation spec is for voice audio. It is TOTAL deviation. You 
should be staying under, really, 4.7-4.8 for ALL audio, WITH CTCSS 
running...just checking...
That said, I remember hearing on a list that the ratio is fixed. Chances 
are, if you are getting 900 KHz of PL, your voice deviation is too high 
too.


Re: [Repeater-Builder] MSF-5000 PL encode deviation

2008-12-10 Thread Jim Miller WB5OXQ in Waco
I put up a 5000 about 6 months ago and it works well but you are correct in 
that the ctcss deviation is not adjustable separately.  Mine runs around 900hz 
also with the total with voice set at 4.9khz.  Nobody notices a hum though.  
wb5oxq

  - Original Message - 
  From: wd8chl 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 11:09 PM
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] MSF-5000 PL encode deviation


  Ralph Hogan wrote:
   Gang,
   New to MSF-5000's. Great piece of hardware. But more used to working with GE
   Mastr II's. Have an MSF-5000 repeater we're trying to get going on VHF. Have
   experimented with both the on-board controller stand alone as well as off
   board CAT. Several ee-pots to adjust in the software setting output audio
   levels, but none specific to just PL encode level. We got it adjusted for 5
   KHz output deviation, but noticed the PL encode deviation is a little high
   at about 900 Hz. I usually like to see around 600 to 750 Hz. I couldn't find
   in the manuals anywhere what Moto spec'd PL deviation at for the MSF-5000.
   Looks like the PL level is a fixed percentage without an independent output
   level adjust. Probably something we are doing wrong in setting levels, but
   wanted to get some feedback from the group.
   Thanks in advance!
   Ralph W4XE

  One thing I have seen some people do mistakenly is assume that the 
  +/-5KHz deviation spec is for voice audio. It is TOTAL deviation. You 
  should be staying under, really, 4.7-4.8 for ALL audio, WITH CTCSS 
  running...just checking...
  That said, I remember hearing on a list that the ratio is fixed. Chances 
  are, if you are getting 900 KHz of PL, your voice deviation is too high 
  too.


   

[Repeater-Builder] Opinions on telewave duplexers

2008-12-10 Thread Jed Barton
Hey guys,

I am in the process of designing a rather large repeater system.
Any thoughts on telewave duplexers?
I've heard a lot of great things about them, but the only thing I have to
compare it with is txrx.
Thoughts?

Thanks,
Jed




[Repeater-Builder] Tait tb7100 verses tb8100

2008-12-10 Thread Jed Barton
Hey guys,

I have a project where a customer wants to go all tait.
Here's the million dollar question, what repeater should we get?
What holds up better, the TB7100 or TB8100?
Can someone point out the differences?
I'm a little new to the tait world.

Thanks,
Jed