[Repeater-Builder] Re: Yet Another split antenna Question

2008-12-17 Thread Joe Burkleo
Joe,
I would use a 6-8" pass can on both the transmitter and receiver. That
will give you plenty of isolation. On a large site, I would recommend
using a circulator or isolator on the transmitter, just to be a good
neighbor, and the VHF Mastr II PA's really like them also.

Add a Angle Linear preamp and that thing will be a pretty wild repeater. 

I would also use 1/4" or 3/8" superflex in the cabinet to cable
everything with, even the preamp.

Good Luck.
Joe - WA7JAW
 

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "kb5vjy"  wrote:
>
> Folks,
> 
> I have read just about every split antenna post that I can find.. I 
> hate to be a "yet another" poster but here is my situation.  I just 
> want to know if it is do able. And what problems I might run into.
> 
> After months of waiting, I have been issued a repeater pair of 
> 147.255 for a long range 2m repeater that will be installed.  This is 
> my first 2m repeater, but I do have 3 70cm repeaters (all Mastr 
> II's)..
> 
> My situation is the following:
> 
> I have a Mastr II Station 100w Cont. Duty PA for the project... I 
> still have to order the xtals.  I will run a PL as needed on 127.3.  
> The controller will be a CAT (version unsure of)
> 
> I have a 2000' broadcast tower with a platform at 1300' and another 
> at 1000'.  There is a DB 224 mounted under the 1300' and one under 
> the 1000' platform with a section of 7/8 feedline running from the 
> top platform and the bottom platform. There is a full rack size NEMA 
> 12 enclosure on the 1300' platform.   After Feb '09 there will be NO 
> VHF transmitting equipment on this tower at all. The closest 
> transmitter is 6 miles away.
> 
> What I would like to do, is mount the radio in the enclosure at the 
> top platform.  Use the top DB 224 for the Receive antenna, and the 
> 1000' DB 224 for the Transmit antenna.  What are the problems that I 
> will run into with this situation, and should I look for some type of 
> filter for the receiver.  I do plan on putting an APRS Digi at 1300' 
> as well moving one of my 70cm repeaters to the same platform some 
> time early next year.
> 
> Any comments would be helpful.  Thanks..
> 
> 73 de Joe KB5VJY Sorry.. RTTY dayz!
>




Re: [Repeater-Builder] LMR600 in Duplex radio?

2008-12-17 Thread no6b
At 12/17/2008 12:51, you wrote:
>At 08:31 AM 12/17/08, you wrote:
>
>
>Mike WA6ILQ
>

Mike: Please answer my e-mail from a few weeks ago.  You've posted at least 
3 times to this list since then but are either ignoring or not receiving my 
direct e-mails.  If you haven't received any of them, please let me know 
via the list or call me at work.  Thanks.

Bob NO6B



[Repeater-Builder] Yet Another split antenna Question

2008-12-17 Thread kb5vjy
Folks,

I have read just about every split antenna post that I can find.. I 
hate to be a "yet another" poster but here is my situation.  I just 
want to know if it is do able. And what problems I might run into.

After months of waiting, I have been issued a repeater pair of 
147.255 for a long range 2m repeater that will be installed.  This is 
my first 2m repeater, but I do have 3 70cm repeaters (all Mastr 
II's)..

My situation is the following:

I have a Mastr II Station 100w Cont. Duty PA for the project... I 
still have to order the xtals.  I will run a PL as needed on 127.3.  
The controller will be a CAT (version unsure of)

I have a 2000' broadcast tower with a platform at 1300' and another 
at 1000'.  There is a DB 224 mounted under the 1300' and one under 
the 1000' platform with a section of 7/8 feedline running from the 
top platform and the bottom platform. There is a full rack size NEMA 
12 enclosure on the 1300' platform.   After Feb '09 there will be NO 
VHF transmitting equipment on this tower at all. The closest 
transmitter is 6 miles away.

What I would like to do, is mount the radio in the enclosure at the 
top platform.  Use the top DB 224 for the Receive antenna, and the 
1000' DB 224 for the Transmit antenna.  What are the problems that I 
will run into with this situation, and should I look for some type of 
filter for the receiver.  I do plan on putting an APRS Digi at 1300' 
as well moving one of my 70cm repeaters to the same platform some 
time early next year.

Any comments would be helpful.  Thanks..

73 de Joe KB5VJY Sorry.. RTTY dayz!



Re: [Repeater-Builder] Holiday Special - MICOR 2 meter receiver conversion from W3KKC

2008-12-17 Thread Tom Manning
Hello Kevin
You are correct on your freqs for xmit and rcv.  The Mitrek units I  have 
will only tune receive to 146.00Mhz.  This leaves more than one meg to go to 
meet tolerance on 144.890.  I have tried 4 or 5 units and find similar 
operation of all.  This is the reason for my question about the Micor coils 
working for Mitrek.  Thanks.  73 de Tom Manning, AF4UG
  - Original Message - 
  From: Kevin Custer 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 8:44 PM
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Holiday Special - MICOR 2 meter receiver 
conversion from W3KKC


  Tom,

  Do you mean 144.89 MHz?  I would think your repeater would *transmit* on 
145.490 MHz  At any rate, no conversion is necessary for the Mitrek to make 
book specification sensitivity on 144.890 MHz.

  Kevin




Good afternoon Kevin
My need is to convert two or more Mitrek receivers to cover 145.49Mhzz, 
which is our receive freq for our repeater.  Thanks.  73 de Tom Manning, AF4UG
  - Original Message - 
  From: Kevin Custer 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 12:19 PM
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Holiday Special - MICOR 2 meter receiver 
conversion from W3KKC


  Tom Manning wrote: 

Good morning Kevin
I have a question.  Will these coils also work in a Mitrek?  
Thanks.  73 de Tom Manning, AF4UG
  Hi Tom,

  To answer your question, the conversion will not work in the Mitrek.
  Unlike the MICOR, the Mitrek high-band unit that is most common has a 
lower tunning limit of 146.00 MHz as specified from the factory.  This means 
that the units normally tune anywhere in the 2M ham band without modification.  
What frequency do you need to listen on?

  Kevin

   

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] RC96 manual

2008-12-17 Thread Joe
Thanks

Kevin Custer wrote:
> Joe wrote:
>   
>> I tried to download a copy of the RC96 manual at:
>>
>> http://www.repeater-builder.com/acc/pdfs/ACC-RC-96-Manual-All.pdf
>>
>> and it says the file is damaged.  Are there any other copies available?
>> 
>
>
> Yes...
>
> http://www.repeater-builder.com/acc/acc-rc-96-manual.zip
>
> Kevin
>
> 
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>   



Re: [Repeater-Builder] RC96 manual

2008-12-17 Thread Kevin Custer
Joe wrote:
> I tried to download a copy of the RC96 manual at:
>
> http://www.repeater-builder.com/acc/pdfs/ACC-RC-96-Manual-All.pdf
>
> and it says the file is damaged.  Are there any other copies available?


Yes...

http://www.repeater-builder.com/acc/acc-rc-96-manual.zip

Kevin


[Repeater-Builder] Re: RC 1000 controller code table

2008-12-17 Thread wb8art
Well its not that old then and a lot of the codes are current with 
4.7 rev, but there are a few that do other things, not expected so 
just trying to get the real data.
Randy


--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, neal Newman  
wrote:
>
> The Old codes were 3 digits  like 100 ,101,102,103
>  the newer versions had 4 digits  4100,4101,4102  Ect..
>  try that
> 
> --- On Wed, 12/17/08, wb8art  wrote:
> 
> > From: wb8art 
> > Subject: [Repeater-Builder] RC 1000 controller code table
> > To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Wednesday, December 17, 2008, 4:36 PM
> > Anyone have a copy of an older version of the code &
> > user tables?  I 
> > have chip version rev 4.34, and the RB sites text is rev
> > 4.7.. There 
> > are some differences apparently and it would be nice to get
> > the 
> > correct tables.
> > 
> > Randy 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > 
> > 
> >
>




[Repeater-Builder] RC96 manual

2008-12-17 Thread Joe
I tried to download a copy of the RC96 manual at:

http://www.repeater-builder.com/acc/pdfs/ACC-RC-96-Manual-All.pdf

and it says the file is damaged.  Are there any other copies available?

73, Joe, K1ike


Re: [Repeater-Builder] RC 1000 controller code table

2008-12-17 Thread neal Newman
The Old codes were 3 digits  like 100 ,101,102,103
 the newer versions had 4 digits  4100,4101,4102  Ect..
 try that

--- On Wed, 12/17/08, wb8art  wrote:

> From: wb8art 
> Subject: [Repeater-Builder] RC 1000 controller code table
> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, December 17, 2008, 4:36 PM
> Anyone have a copy of an older version of the code &
> user tables?  I 
> have chip version rev 4.34, and the RB sites text is rev
> 4.7.. There 
> are some differences apparently and it would be nice to get
> the 
> correct tables.
> 
> Randy 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
> 

  


Re: [Repeater-Builder] Amateur Radio Repeater Usage - what are you going to do about it?

2008-12-17 Thread Nate Duehr
Benjamin L. Naber wrote:
> For those of you who are really doing all they can, this message is not
> for you. It's for those that say they are so busy. So busy with what?
> Really, ask yourself, what makes you sooo busy that you cannot get on
> the air at home or in the car? Even for five damn minutes?

Benjamin -- I think a lot of us do as you do, and get on the air at each 
opportunity.  But if I get on the air on every FM repeater I like to 
talk to people on (who are scattered across many), link up IRLP to 
popular places and say hello to other friends, get on the D-STAR system 
and do the same, fire up 2m SSB and see who's around in THAT group (they 
rarely get on repeaters, that gang), and also play a little on HF...

That's hours a day.

Realistically, I get on ONE of those things about once a day... call it 
five to six times a week.  And look for a good conversation or friends 
to talk to.

That means one person can only cover a very small amount of the time a 
repeater has available to it, each day... so to speak.  Every repeater 
has 86400 seconds a day available to it to provide communications.  I 
can maybe eat up a MAXIMUM on a really long QSO of two hours of KEY DOWN 
on my part... 7200 of those.  It would take 12 people to keep the 
repeater on-air 24/7 at that rate, every single day.  And if I were 
keying down for that long, I'd be considered a "repeater hog", I'm 
sure... but that's because the users all show up at generally the same 
times each day.  See below for more on that.

If we take out the overnight hours, you need 6 hams actively 
transmitting that much (which is too much) to have 12 hours of activity. 
  You also need someone around to receive them and reply... and they 
could be the same people, but that's unlikely.

So you probably need about 12 ACTIVE people on every repeater to make it 
a "busy" system.  12 hams, who talk a lot, every single day.  I think 
the reality is... once you point out that most areas have at least 20 
repeaters of some sort, with some kind of coverage in metro areas -- 
there's so many repeaters, we'll never adequately use the spectrum.

Scanning helps.  I pop over to other people's repeaters all the time. 
Luckily there's little in the way of "taboo" in doing this around here. 
  If it's 2AM and I'm driving home and I hear ANY repeater pair (yes, I 
have ALL of them programmed into one rig) active, I'll either at least 
listen to the QSO or join in.  How many people are bold enough to do 
that on unknown repeaters?  I see it the same as "tuning around on 
HF"... if you're on-air, I'll talk to you that late at night.)

Net's and set "activity times" are almost the only way to find the 
people interested in what you're interested in.  And a lot of people 
turn off their rigs or go to other repeaters if the topic isn't 
something THEY are interested in.

Interesting math for the number of seconds a repeater has "to give" 
every day, isn't it, when you break it down to real operators?

It's amazing we ever find groups to associate with and stick with them 
on specific repeaters other than the fact that the real activity tends 
to "bunch up" around drive time.  Most repeaters sit stone silent during 
the overnight hours, of course.

So where is Repeater-Builder going to build an "always on" on-air 
presence?  Does anyone even want to?  Will we go crazy with end-user 
questions about repeaters?  (Might be fun, might not...)  Anyone willing 
to "park" somewhere?

Nate WY0X


Re: [Repeater-Builder] Amateur Radio Repeater Usage - what are you going to do about it?

2008-12-17 Thread Nate Duehr
Paul Plack wrote:
> This is an interesting debate. Anyone who builds a repeater finds 
> satisfaction when it attracts a community of users - "A warm heatsink is 
> a happy heatsink." But many users seem to favor repeaters with little 
> traffic, allowing unobtrusive monitoring for their friends.

One way to accomodate both is fancy CTCSS schemes, or in the case of 
D-STAR, the coded squelch features.  If you want to hear, you do... if 
you don't you don't, but you leave the rig on for calls -- which seems 
to be the important distinction in today's day and age where we have so 
many "noisemakers" that a lot of people only turn on the rig to make 
that one call, and then turn it back off.

> Low usage is a time bomb in an age of growing demand for bandwidth. IRLP 
> could be one answer, but the reflectors seem to attract lots of chatter 
> which isn't very interesting to hear. I've turned the rig off many times 
> when I heard hams swapping S-meter reports.

Hahahah... yes, dumb conversations and GOOD conversations both go with 
the territory of busy linked systems.  Can't avoid it.  We recently had 
some "controversy" here about that, and asked the groups wanting "quiet" 
and "noise" to split up... different repeaters for the different 
personality types.  Me personally, I'll listen to anything -- if I 
*really* don't want to listen I know where the OFF button is.  But my 
wife can attest (and maybe this is due to my multi-tasking ways with 
radios in airplane cockpits for a long time), I can have the commercial 
broadcast radio on, a ham repeater, a phone call going, and still able 
to be "interrupt driven" if something more important signals for my 
attention.

(My wife on the other hand, can not... and no matter how hard you shake 
her, jump up and down, scream or otherwise... if she's on the phone, you 
can't stop her and update her with updated information for the person 
who she's talking to.  She simply can't do it.  You'll end up telling 
her, "I TRIED TO GET YOUR ATTENTION" and she'll have to call the person 
back.  She wouldn't make a very good 911 dispatcher!  GRIN...)

> IRLP could be really neat for special interest nets. I've often thought 
> it would be great to have something equivalent to the old ECARS 40m net 
> for mobiles. I'd welcome the company when driving long distances at night.

Yes, all the linked systems are great for that type of thing but rarely 
is it done.  There are Nets about talking, but few nets about specific 
technical topics or ham activities on the Reflectors.  I always thought 
the Houston AMSAT Net would be an excellent one to find on both IRLP and 
EchoLink... if you had enough volunteers around to knock the nodes 
offline who can't get their keying/ID's right.

> I suppose APRS will have to become more fully developed before we'll be 
> able to easily find nets while transient.

APRS is the "continuous net", it's always there on 144.39 in most 
metropolitan areas -- what do you mean?  It's not really designed for a 
round-table, really.

> Perhaps this will be the real "killer app" for D*. A mobile net that 
> utilizes automated frequency-hopping to work like satellite broadcast 
> radio on long drives would be awesome.

Frequency hopping is easy to do manually, but it doesn't require D-STAR 
for that... just enough repeaters on the same 
network/reflector/conference along your route, or capable of being 
linked as you go.  We have truck drivers here in Colorado that link the 
various IRLP machines together or to a Reflector as they drive around 
the state late at night... it works fine.

That's not a "Net" per se, but there's no reason they couldn't expand it 
to the "Late Night Truck Drivers Conference", easily... if they wanted to.

I've often wondered how to move THIS conversation -- REPEATER 
Builders/Geeks... to a known meeting place on-air.  Wouldn't this 
discussion be more interesting in person with voices?

:-)

Nate WY0X


Re: [Repeater-Builder] Amateur Radio Repeater Usage - what are you going to do about it?

2008-12-17 Thread Benjamin L. Naber
I think it's time to kiss our little useless things we do on that side
and say hello to radio again. After all, what are you *really*
accomplishing?

For those of you who are really doing all they can, this message is not
for you. It's for those that say they are so busy. So busy with what?
Really, ask yourself, what makes you sooo busy that you cannot get on
the air at home or in the car? Even for five damn minutes?

On this military installation, no antennas on the house allowed and
handheld in the hole I live in don't make for good TX/RX range. But you
bet that every time I get in the car, even at 5:45AM, I put out my
callsign. Everytime.

If you have an extenuating; roger, got it. But for the rest of you? Get
on the air you just give your stuff to someone who will. 

No reply needed, just roll your sleeves up, get on the air, and do
something to get others to follow suit.


~Benjamin, KB9LFZ


On Wed, 2008-12-17 at 16:46 -0700, Paul Plack wrote:
> This is an interesting debate. Anyone who builds a repeater finds
> satisfaction when it attracts a community of users - "A warm heatsink
> is a happy heatsink." But many users seem to favor repeaters with
> little traffic, allowing unobtrusive monitoring for their friends.
>  
> Low usage is a time bomb in an age of growing demand for bandwidth.
> IRLP could be one answer, but the reflectors seem to attract lots of
> chatter which isn't very interesting to hear. I've turned the rig off
> many times when I heard hams swapping S-meter reports.
>  
> IRLP could be really neat for special interest nets. I've often
> thought it would be great to have something equivalent to the old
> ECARS 40m net for mobiles. I'd welcome the company when driving long
> distances at night.
>  
> I suppose APRS will have to become more fully developed before we'll
> be able to easily find nets while transient.
>  
> Perhaps this will be the real "killer app" for D*. A mobile net that
> utilizes automated frequency-hopping to work like satellite broadcast
> radio on long drives would be awesome.
>  
> 73,
> Paul, AE4KR
>  
>  
> - Original Message - 
> From: John J. Riddell 
> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 4:32 PM
> Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Amateur Radio Repeater Usage -
> what are you going to do about it?
> 
> 
> Benjamin,
> The sparse activity seems to be everywhere.One suggestion
> is to
> add IRLP to your repeater. When there is no local activity
> there always
> seems to be someone listening on the various reflectors all
> over the world
> and you can chat with them.
> 
> Some time back, I was driving to pick up my wife from work at
> 7 PM
> here in Ontario, and I came across a fellow Ham in Japan who
> was also 
> driving
> but it was 7 AM in the morning there.
> 
> IRLP activity would certainly be of interest to anyone
> listening to our
> Ham repeaters on a scanner and it may just be the "spark" to
> get them 
> interested
> in becoming a Ham.
> 
> The inventor of IRLP is a Canadian Ham and is a member of this
> list, VE7LTD
> 
> 73 John VE3AMZ (A Ham for 50 years)
> Waterloo, Ontario
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Benjamin L. Naber" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 5:47 PM
> Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Amateur Radio Repeater Usage -
> what are you 
> going to do about it?
> 
> > So after reading a few messages, I began to think, what is
> each person
> > who gets these messages now going to do about it?
> >
> > I guess you have a few options.
> >
> > Sit on your butt in front of the idiot box like 90% of all
> Americans and
> > not do anything but complain.
> > -Or-
> > Do something about like going attending club meetings and
> begin public
> > service events. The ARRL has a lot of getting involved with
> amateur
> > radio. I read it about five years ago and to this day I
> still do what I
> > can which my military time consuming job allows - I still go
> on the air,
> > even if it's on the rid home..
> >
> > Read my article in June/July 2004 QST.
> >
> > Unless you have a positive thing you are going do, then
> never mind this
> > post and do not reply.
> >
> > ~Benjamin, KB9LFZ
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> 
> 

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Amateur Radio Repeater Usage - what are you going to do about it?

2008-12-17 Thread Paul Plack
This is an interesting debate. Anyone who builds a repeater finds satisfaction 
when it attracts a community of users - "A warm heatsink is a happy heatsink." 
But many users seem to favor repeaters with little traffic, allowing 
unobtrusive monitoring for their friends.

Low usage is a time bomb in an age of growing demand for bandwidth. IRLP could 
be one answer, but the reflectors seem to attract lots of chatter which isn't 
very interesting to hear. I've turned the rig off many times when I heard hams 
swapping S-meter reports.

IRLP could be really neat for special interest nets. I've often thought it 
would be great to have something equivalent to the old ECARS 40m net for 
mobiles. I'd welcome the company when driving long distances at night.

I suppose APRS will have to become more fully developed before we'll be able to 
easily find nets while transient.

Perhaps this will be the real "killer app" for D*. A mobile net that utilizes 
automated frequency-hopping to work like satellite broadcast radio on long 
drives would be awesome.

73,
Paul, AE4KR


  - Original Message - 
  From: John J. Riddell 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 4:32 PM
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Amateur Radio Repeater Usage - what are you 
going to do about it?


  Benjamin,
  The sparse activity seems to be everywhere.One suggestion is to
  add IRLP to your repeater. When there is no local activity there always
  seems to be someone listening on the various reflectors all over the world
  and you can chat with them.

  Some time back, I was driving to pick up my wife from work at 7 PM
  here in Ontario, and I came across a fellow Ham in Japan who was also 
  driving
  but it was 7 AM in the morning there.

  IRLP activity would certainly be of interest to anyone listening to our
  Ham repeaters on a scanner and it may just be the "spark" to get them 
  interested
  in becoming a Ham.

  The inventor of IRLP is a Canadian Ham and is a member of this list, VE7LTD

  73 John VE3AMZ (A Ham for 50 years)
  Waterloo, Ontario

  - Original Message - 
  From: "Benjamin L. Naber" 
  To: 
  Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 5:47 PM
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Amateur Radio Repeater Usage - what are you 
  going to do about it?

  > So after reading a few messages, I began to think, what is each person
  > who gets these messages now going to do about it?
  >
  > I guess you have a few options.
  >
  > Sit on your butt in front of the idiot box like 90% of all Americans and
  > not do anything but complain.
  > -Or-
  > Do something about like going attending club meetings and begin public
  > service events. The ARRL has a lot of getting involved with amateur
  > radio. I read it about five years ago and to this day I still do what I
  > can which my military time consuming job allows - I still go on the air,
  > even if it's on the rid home..
  >
  > Read my article in June/July 2004 QST.
  >
  > Unless you have a positive thing you are going do, then never mind this
  > post and do not reply.
  >
  > ~Benjamin, KB9LFZ
  >
  >
  >
  >
  >
  > 
  >
  >
  >
  > Yahoo! Groups Links
  >
  >
  >
  > 



   

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Amateur Radio Repeater Usage - what are you going to do about it?

2008-12-17 Thread John J. Riddell
Benjamin,
The sparse activity seems to be everywhere.One suggestion is to
add  IRLP to your repeater. When there is no local activity there always
seems to be someone listening on the various reflectors all over the world
and you can chat with them.

Some time back, I was driving to pick up my wife from work at 7 PM
here in Ontario, and I came across a fellow Ham in Japan who was also 
driving
but it was 7 AM in the morning there.

IRLP activity would certainly be of interest to anyone listening to our
Ham repeaters on a scanner and it may just be the "spark" to get them 
interested
in becoming a Ham.

The inventor of IRLP is a Canadian Ham and is a member of this list,  VE7LTD


73 John VE3AMZ   (A Ham for  50 years)
Waterloo, Ontario



- Original Message - 
From: "Benjamin L. Naber" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 5:47 PM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Amateur Radio Repeater Usage - what are you 
going to do about it?


> So after reading a few messages, I began to think, what is each person
> who gets these messages now going to do about it?
>
> I guess you have a few options.
>
> Sit on your butt in front of the idiot box like 90% of all Americans and
> not do anything but complain.
> -Or-
> Do something about like going attending club meetings and begin public
> service events. The ARRL has a lot of getting involved with amateur
> radio. I read it about five years ago and to this day I still do what I
> can which my military time consuming job allows - I still go on the air,
> even if it's on the rid home..
>
> Read my article in June/July 2004 QST.
>
> Unless you have a positive thing you are going do, then never mind this
> post and do not reply.
>
> ~Benjamin, KB9LFZ
>
>
>
>
>
> 
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
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[Repeater-Builder] Amateur Radio Repeater Usage - what are you going to do about it?

2008-12-17 Thread Benjamin L. Naber
So after reading a few messages, I began to think, what is each person
who gets these messages now going to do about it?

I guess you have a few options.

Sit on your butt in front of the idiot box like 90% of all Americans and
not do anything but complain.
-Or-
Do something about like going attending club meetings and begin public
service events. The ARRL has a lot of getting involved with amateur
radio. I read it about five years ago and to this day I still do what I
can which my military time consuming job allows - I still go on the air,
even if it's on the rid home..

Read my article in June/July 2004 QST.

Unless you have a positive thing you are going do, then never mind this
post and do not reply.

~Benjamin, KB9LFZ






[Repeater-Builder] RC 1000 controller code table

2008-12-17 Thread wb8art
Anyone have a copy of an older version of the code & user tables?  I 
have chip version rev 4.34, and the RB sites text is rev 4.7.. There 
are some differences apparently and it would be nice to get the 
correct tables.

Randy 



Re: [Repeater-Builder] LMR600 in Duplex radio?

2008-12-17 Thread Mike Morris WA6ILQ
At 08:31 AM 12/17/08, you wrote:

>I know several people have complaints against LMR400 in duplex radio --
>do members of the group feel the same way about LMR600?

It's how it's built internally - dissimilar metals.
See the second and third article on the Antenna Systems page at
www.repeater-builder.

 >Recommended Coax and Connectors for the iDEN Enhanced Base Transceiver
 >System   Motorola Engineering wrote this three page discussion of
 >cable types, connector types, with regard to combining,
 >intermodulation, and other RF performace factors. They concluded that
 >LMR-nnn and LMR- series cable is specifically NOT recommended in
 >radio site RF environments, especially duplex environments. While iDEN
 >is a 900 MHz system the physics is the same at 28 MHz through 1296
 >MHz. Worth reading.

 >  HELIAX Coaxial Cable for Low Intermodulation Generation   Andrew
 >Engineering wrote this one page writeup on why foil-braid cable causes
 >intermod. Yes, you'd expect that conclusion from the makers of Heliax,
 >but there's a lot more to it than that. Worth reading.

Mike WA6ILQ



Re: [Repeater-Builder] LMR600 in Duplex radio?

2008-12-17 Thread Chuck Kelsey
The objection relates to the type of construction - braid over foil. It 
doesn't matter what the model number is or who makes the cable.

That said, some people have managed to have acceptable results using 
foil/braid cable. Personally, I'd avoid it. I've seen far too many problems 
when people utilize it in duplex applications, for whatever reason.

Chuck
WB2EDV



- Original Message - 
From: "Kris Kirby" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 11:31 AM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] LMR600 in Duplex radio?


>
> I know several people have complaints against LMR400 in duplex radio -- 
> do members of the group feel the same way about LMR600?
>
> --
> Kris Kirby, KE4AHR  
> But remember, with no superpowers comes no responsibility.
> --rly
> 



[Repeater-Builder] LMR600 in Duplex radio?

2008-12-17 Thread Kris Kirby

I know several people have complaints against LMR400 in duplex radio -- 
do members of the group feel the same way about LMR600?

--
Kris Kirby, KE4AHR  
But remember, with no superpowers comes no responsibility. 
--rly