Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Help Identifying Matrix in Mastr II

2009-05-27 Thread Milt
That unit would have needed a C800 or C900 control head and was most likely 
a SP build for a Federal agency, several generations back as radio systems 
go.  The dual RX allowed the radio top have good sensitivity in both the 163 
and 167 ranges as the front end filtering were not that wide and/or allowed 
for dual receive.  The 1st IF outputs were combined and passed to a comman 
detector.  A switching matrix would have selected the appropriate ICOMs for 
TX and RX  based on the channel selector position.  A PSLM board might have 
been installed to allow scanning on one receiver.  Basically a you tell us 
what you need and we will build it project.  Hope you have a manual or lots 
of patience to sort things out.

Milt
N3LTQ



- Original Message - 
From: Laryn Lohman lar...@hotmail.com
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 10:12 PM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Help Identifying Matrix in Mastr II



 the part number 19B233115G1 appears to be a box rather than a component.

 Yes, as stated, it is the box containing the matrix.


 Please advise the frequencies of the ICOMs, along with their positions in
 the radio.


 TX-- 
 F1 167.2625
 F2 .3125
 F3 .400
 F4 .5625
 F5 .750
 F6 .5375
 F7 .650
 F8 .3625

 RX1--
 F1 163.925
 F2 .8875
 F3 .8625

 RX2--
 F1 167.2625
 F2 .3125
 F3 .400
 F4 .5625
 F5 .750
 F6 .650
 F7 .3625

 RX2 has only an RF section and oscillator section.  The IF area is not 
 populated except for 4 or 5 components.


 I suspect that you have an IMTS or MTS mobile telephone drawer,
 but the frequencies will provide valuable information.

 Naw I don't think so.  And the radio is not duplexed...

 Hope this helps.

 Laryn K8TVZ


 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY




 



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[Repeater-Builder] Diamond X500HNA antenna

2009-05-27 Thread Paul Holm
I recall seeing posts from several who have used the Diamond X500HNA antennas 
with good results.  We've got a VHF machine with one of these that's going back 
up.  It was taken down because of a noise problem and sent back to Diamond for 
repair.  It was/will be top mounted.

For those who are using them, can you offer any suggestions as far as 
assembling, mounting or weatherproofing?  Is it worthwhile to try to take extra 
steps to seal up the outer coupling joints? or to solder the element joints?

Thanks.


73  Paul - KC0HST

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Diamond X500HNA antenna

2009-05-27 Thread Cort Buffington
A  group I was in used to use both some Comet and Diamonds. We  
soldered the element joints AND covered the radome joints with the  
fancy heatshrink with the glue in it. They held up for at least 5  
years before I moved and lost track of them -- they were also top  
supported, and I think that helped a lot too.

One thing that bugs me about the lighter weight fiberglass antennas is  
radiation angle. Some of those high gain guys have very narrow  
vertical patterns -- especially at UHF. it doesn't seem it would take  
much whipping around in the wind to start throwing the pattern all  
over the place you know, down at the ground, now up at the sky,  
etc. as the antenna swings around.

73 DE N0MJS

On May 27, 2009, at 12:52 PM, Paul Holm wrote:




 I recall seeing posts from several who have used the Diamond X500HNA  
 antennas with good results.  We've got a VHF machine with one of  
 these that's going back up.  It was taken down because of a noise  
 problem and sent back to Diamond for repair.  It was/will be top  
 mounted.

 For those who are using them, can you offer any suggestions as far  
 as assembling, mounting or weatherproofing?  Is it worthwhile to try  
 to take extra steps to seal up the outer coupling joints? or to  
 solder the element joints?

 Thanks.


 73  Paul - KC0HST

 

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Diamond X500HNA antenna

2009-05-27 Thread Paul Holm
Did you use silver solder or typical 60/40 or 50/50 solder?


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A  group I was in used to use both some Comet and Diamonds. We  
 soldered the element joints 






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[Repeater-Builder] TX max power

2009-05-27 Thread wb8art
Can some one with one of those fancy programs like Comm-Shop run it and tell me 
the max power a Exec II on UHF ham band run with a 75 isolation mobile 
duplexer.  Assuming that the coax and ant are a ideal setup.  

Randy WB8ART



Re: [Repeater-Builder] Diamond X500HNA antenna

2009-05-27 Thread Lee Pennington
Just seal it up the best you can and pray for no lightning!!
de, Lee
K4LJ73

On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 1:52 PM, Paul Holm p...@chargertech.com wrote:



  I recall seeing posts from several who have used the Diamond X500HNA
 antennas with good results.  We've got a VHF machine with one of these
 that's going back up.  It was taken down because of a noise problem and sent
 back to Diamond for repair.  It was/will be top mounted.

 For those who are using them, can you offer any suggestions as far as
 assembling, mounting or weatherproofing?  Is it worthwhile to try to take
 extra steps to seal up the outer coupling joints? or to solder the element
 joints?

 Thanks.


 73  Paul - KC0HST
  




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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Diamond X500HNA antenna

2009-05-27 Thread Cort Buffington
I'm betting it was 60/40 since it was just the Kester spool in one of  
the guy's bags.

On May 27, 2009, at 1:04 PM, Paul Holm wrote:

 Did you use silver solder or typical 60/40 or 50/50 solder?


 - Original Message -
 From: Cort Buffington


 A  group I was in used to use both some Comet and Diamonds. We
 soldered the element joints


 



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[Repeater-Builder] Service manuals

2009-05-27 Thread ccour79992
I have 5 boxes of mostly Motorola service manuals, some GE.

Mostly 60's  70's vintage, i.e. micor, mocom, ht200, flexar, remotes, base, 
mobiles, etc.

I can send you a file with the list.

Free to good home/amateur use, but you must come get all of them, Im not 
shipping.

Contact me directly.

73

Chris-KC4CMR

kc4...@arrl.net





Re: [Repeater-Builder] Service manuals

2009-05-27 Thread Tom Parker

Where are you loacted CHris?

ccour79992 wrote:




I have 5 boxes of mostly Motorola service manuals, some GE.

Mostly 60's  70's vintage, i.e. micor, mocom, ht200, flexar, remotes, 
base, mobiles, etc.


I can send you a file with the list.

Free to good home/amateur use, but you must come get all of them, Im 
not shipping.


Contact me directly.

73

Chris-KC4CMR

kc4...@arrl.net mailto:kc4cmr%40arrl.net






[Repeater-Builder] Re: Help Identifying Matrix in Mastr II

2009-05-27 Thread Laryn Lohman
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Milt men...@... wrote:

  A switching matrix would have selected the appropriate ICOMs for 
 TX and RX  based on the channel selector position.  A PSLM board might have 
 been installed to allow scanning on one receiver. 

Yeah that's probably the matrix board I've mentioned.  What does PSLM stand for?


 Basically a you tell us 
 what you need and we will build it project.  Hope you have a manual or lots 
 of patience to sort things out.
 
 Milt
 N3LTQ


Well I'll not be worried about the matrix or systems board in this radio.  I 
don't have a manual for this specific radio, but have enough manuals for other 
Mastr IIs to understand what I need to.  It's a good parts radio.

Laryn K8TVZ



RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Help Identifying Matrix in Mastr II

2009-05-27 Thread Eric Lemmon
Laryn,

PSLM = Priority Search Lock Monitor.  See LBI-4691:
www.repeater-builder.com/ge/lbi-library/lbi-4691i.pdf

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY


-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Laryn Lohman
Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 4:44 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Help Identifying Matrix in Mastr II

snip

Yeah that's probably the matrix board I've mentioned. What does PSLM stand
for?

snip

Well I'll not be worried about the matrix or systems board in this radio. I
don't have a manual for this specific radio, but have enough manuals for
other Mastr IIs to understand what I need to. It's a good parts radio.

Laryn K8TVZ



RE: [Repeater-Builder] TX max power

2009-05-27 Thread Eric Lemmon
Randy,

Using a TX frequency of 443.000 MHz and a RX frequency of 448.000 MHz, and
with a receive sensitivity of 0.35 uV, my CommShop program calculates that
100 watts of TX power requires at least 74 dB of isolation.  Since a mobile
(notch only) duplexer is hardly an ideal choice, I'd suggest keeping the
power below 50 watts.  Keep in mind that CommShop, like most similar
programs, makes many assumptions that may or may not be true in your
particular case.  Keeping the PA from burning up due to a high duty cycle in
repeater service may be more important than avoiding desense.

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of wb8art
Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 11:11 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] TX max power



Can some one with one of those fancy programs like Comm-Shop run it and tell
me the max power a Exec II on UHF ham band run with a 75 isolation mobile
duplexer. Assuming that the coax and ant are a ideal setup. 

Randy WB8ART



[Repeater-Builder] Re: TX max power

2009-05-27 Thread wb8art
Thanks Eric,  That is exactly what I was needing to know. This will give us a 
good starting point and since it is looking to run only 35 watts it should be 
OK.  That is better than I expected.  Anyway I believe it, (the duplexer) is 
only rated at 50 watts.  

Your a gentleman  a scholar.
Thanks Randy


--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Eric Lemmon wb6...@... wrote:

 Randy,
 
 Using a TX frequency of 443.000 MHz and a RX frequency of 448.000 MHz, and
 with a receive sensitivity of 0.35 uV, my CommShop program calculates that
 100 watts of TX power requires at least 74 dB of isolation.  Since a mobile
 (notch only) duplexer is hardly an ideal choice, I'd suggest keeping the
 power below 50 watts.  Keep in mind that CommShop, like most similar
 programs, makes many assumptions that may or may not be true in your
 particular case.  Keeping the PA from burning up due to a high duty cycle in
 repeater service may be more important than avoiding desense.
 
 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
  
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of wb8art
 Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 11:11 AM
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] TX max power
 
 
 
 Can some one with one of those fancy programs like Comm-Shop run it and tell
 me the max power a Exec II on UHF ham band run with a 75 isolation mobile
 duplexer. Assuming that the coax and ant are a ideal setup. 
 
 Randy WB8ART





[Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: Dry Transfers for PCB Construction

2009-05-27 Thread n4tua
Mike,
I have used and had good luck using model paint in the small 1/2 ounce 
container and a model paint brush.
Collin