[Repeater-Builder] Re: GMRS HT recommendation?

2009-08-08 Thread ka1jfy
Something to keep in mind, is that the GP68 [and their chinese clones] are not 
legal to use on anything other than ham in the US.

And, because it's also illegal to import them, they may be seized by Customs, 
with no recourse.

WalterH


--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Scott Yeager kd0...@... wrote:

 I have a few Motorola GP68 FPP Radios I got from China/Ebay.  They're great
 little radios and around 70$ shipped each.  Have both UHF and VHF models.
 
 http://cgi.ebay.com/Motorola-GP68-UHF-430-470MHz-2-Way-Radio-Accessories_W0QQitemZ170368673788QQcmdZViewItemQQptZ2_Way_Radios_FRS?hash=item27aac3a7fc_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
 
 The battery they come with isn't very good and its NiCd..  They won't last
 half a day with constant talking,   But you can get Nickle-metal extended
 batts off ebay for cheap.
 
 -Scott
 SNIP



[Repeater-Builder] Sinclair R2B12 duplexer

2009-08-08 Thread cruizzer77
Does anyone have technical info (i.e. tech drawings) or inside pics of these 
duplexers? I wonder how they do the shortening as there can't be a 1/4 wave 
resonator for 2m inside this 19 box...

Regards
Martin



[Repeater-Builder] Re: NEUTEC-PACE-RANGER SM-1645

2009-08-08 Thread gustav_gall
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, skipp025 skipp...@... wrote:

 Hola de nuevo a usted. Tengo la información que usted 
 necesita en mi Web page. La información está en inglés 
 solamente, apesadumbrado. 
 
 Hay dos diversos libros de la información a transferir. 
 
 Cada libro tiene un archivo de la transferencia directa 
 y una página de la descripción. Usted ve la página de la 
 descripción solamente en el Web page del Internet.
 
 Aquí está la localización de la información del Web page. 
 
 El libro de servicio, parte 1. 
 
 http://www.radiowrench.com/sonic/neutec1.pdf 
 
 parte 2. 
 
 http://www.radiowrench.com/sonic/neutec2.pdf 
 
 Usted tiene que reprogramar el chip de memoria. Usted 
 necesita el equipo reprogramar el chip de memoria.
 
 Información para hacer un nuevo chip de ordenador. 
 
 
 http://www.radiowrench.com/sonic/eprom.zip 
 
 buena suerte a usted. 
 
 skipp 
 
 
  gustav_gall gustav_gall@ wrote:
 
  
  Saludos desde Venezuela..!! estoy byscando toda la informacion del Ranger 
  SM-1645 el software y el programador del 2716.. yo tengo el programador de 
  forma artesanal osea fabricado por mi... pero necesito el software.. 
  agradeciendo alguna informacion..!!
 

Gtacias amigo skipp ahora me falta el soft..!!



Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GMRS HT recommendation?

2009-08-08 Thread Cort Buffington
Here's a question I've not been sure about: If a radio isn't Part 15  
registered, is it even legal for ham use? If we build our own or  
heavily modify, that's one thing, but I think if it's a commercial  
product, it still has to meet FCC Part 15 doesn't it?


On Aug 8, 2009, at 1:18 AM, ka1jfy wrote:

Something to keep in mind, is that the GP68 [and their chinese  
clones] are not legal to use on anything other than ham in the US.


And, because it's also illegal to import them, they may be seized by  
Customs, with no recourse.


WalterH

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Scott Yeager kd0...@...  
wrote:


 I have a few Motorola GP68 FPP Radios I got from China/Ebay.  
They're great
 little radios and around 70$ shipped each. Have both UHF and VHF  
models.


 
http://cgi.ebay.com/Motorola-GP68-UHF-430-470MHz-2-Way-Radio-Accessories_W0QQitemZ170368673788QQcmdZViewItemQQptZ2_Way_Radios_FRS?hash=item27aac3a7fc_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

 The battery they come with isn't very good and its NiCd.. They  
won't last
 half a day with constant talking, But you can get Nickle-metal  
extended

 batts off ebay for cheap.

 -Scott
 SNIP







[Repeater-Builder] recommendations on a good bandpass filter

2009-08-08 Thread Joe Landers
Hello Folks 

 

Would like to see what people are buying these days and see what is
recommended as I am in need of the following

 

I need a band pass filter for uhf would like 430 to 450 but will consider
440 to 450. Would like to see what is out there I am missing

 

Thanks

Joe Landers

Ke4eue

 

 

 



[Repeater-Builder] MSF5k Second receiver, SAM, DTMF questions

2009-08-08 Thread Brian Gieryk
I have several MSF's, and am familiar with the radio.

I am not familiar with the Second receiver option, and have acquired  
one on UHF.

How is this programmed, and can I put a SSCB on it?

Second, does anyone have experience setting up a SAM?

I have been tinkering, but it is so functional, I got lost

Third, does anyone have experience programming the DTMF board?

I have one, but am not able to find any info.

Thanks in advance,

Brian
KE6IYC


RE: [Repeater-Builder] recommendations on a good bandpass filter

2009-08-08 Thread Eric Lemmon
Joe,

I have two commercial UHF MTR2000 repeaters to each of which I have added a
Telewave TWPC-4508-2 bandpass cavity filter comprising two 8 cavities.
Both also have Angle Linear preamps followed by 6 dB attenuators to make up
for the 1 dB or so loss in the filter and improve the sensitivity of the
receiver.  One repeater is about 150 feet away from an FAA ARSR-4 radar
installation, and I wanted to be certain that so much power (at a much
higher frequency, of course) would not desense the receiver.  There are more
than a dozen Government VHF and UHF radios at that site, but my repeater
doesn't seem to be bothered at all.  Telewave also makes 10 bandpass
cavities, but a pair of them will not fit side-by-side in a standard 19
cabinet, so I chose two 8 cans.

You can see similar filters here, except that the TWPC-4508-2 is not shown:
www.telewave.com/pdf/TWDS-5018.pdf

Bear in mind that a bandpass filter may be tunable over the 430-450 MHz
range, but once tuned to a specific frequency will pass only a very narrow
band, just a few tens of kHz wide.  If you really want to pass a 20 MHz wide
band, then you should use a preselector rather than a bandpass filter.

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY


-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Joe Landers
Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 11:44 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] recommendations on a good bandpass filter

  

Hello Folks, 

Would like to see what people are buying these days and see what is
recommended as I am in need of the following. 

I need a band pass filter for uhf would like 430 to 450 but will consider
440 to 450. Would like to see what is out there I am missing

Thanks

Joe Landers
Ke4eue



[Repeater-Builder] Arcom RC-210 for sale

2009-08-08 Thread James Adkins
The Nixa ARC now has a surplus Arcom RC-210 up for sale.  Asking $275.00
shipped.  E-mail me off list if you are interested, or call 417-840-5261.
73,

-- 
James Adkins, KB0NHX
Vice-President -- Nixa Amateur Radio Club, Inc. (KC0LUN)

Southern Missouri Frequency Coordinator - Missouri Repeater Council

www.nixahams.net

The Nixa Amateur Radio Club - There is no charge for awesomeness! (Well,
only $1.00 per month)


[Repeater-Builder] Re: Arcom Controller

2009-08-08 Thread James Adkins
This controller also had the factory rack mount enclosure in this deal

Sent from my iPod

On Aug 8, 2009, at 4:14 PM, Martin A Flynn mafl...@att.net wrote:

 Jim,
 Couple pf questions:

 Is this a Kit or the factory version?
 What housing?
 Do you take paypal?


 Martin


 The Nixa ARC now has a surplus Arcom RC-210 up for sale.  Asking  
 $275.00 shipped.  E-mail me off list if you are interested, or call  
 417-840-5261.


 73,

 -- 
 James Adkins, KB0NHX
 Vice-President -- Nixa Amateur Radio Club, Inc. (KC0LUN)

 Southern Missouri Frequency Coordinator - Missouri Repeater Council

 www.nixahams.net http://www.nixahams.net

 The Nixa Amateur Radio Club - There is no charge for  
 awesomeness! (Well, only $1.00 per month)


Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GMRS HT recommendation?

2009-08-08 Thread Paul Plack
Walter, 

Part 15 covers unlicensed operation. As a ham, you're licensed under the terms 
of Part 97, which has specific rules for emissions types and purity. (97.305 
and 97.307 in particular.)

If you buy a commercial product not already certified to comply, and were ever 
accused of, say, spurious tranmitter radiation, you would need to be able to 
demonstrate to the FCC the means you used to determine its compliance, just as 
with homebrew gear.

The test equipment needed is not in most hamshacks these days. But it could be 
done.

A really confusing development in recent years is ham equipment which has come 
with Part 15 stickers on it. I have to assume that the stickers were a 
well-meaning attempt by manufacturers to cover their butts regarding the 
microprocessors used in running modern gear, and not the 10 mW cloning signals, 
since Part 15 operation is not authorized in the ham bands, regardless how low 
the power.

73,
Paul, AE4KR


  - Original Message - 
  From: Cort Buffington 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 8:38 AM
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GMRS HT recommendation?



  Here's a question I've not been sure about: If a radio isn't Part 15 
registered, is it even legal for ham use? If we build our own or heavily 
modify, that's one thing, but I think if it's a commercial product, it still 
has to meet FCC Part 15 doesn't it?



  . 

  

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Narrow banding question

2009-08-08 Thread Albert
Yes, I realize it effects only UHF and VHF users. Maybe I was unclear with my 
question.

Is is ALL VHF and UHF users? I was under the impression it was only the upper 
UHF trunked systems and the like. But maybe I was confused.

Will many users have to dump their older radios and have to upgrade?

I was wondering what surplus equipment might be coming onto the market due to 
the changes.

If you have seen posts from me before, I am interested in Motorola Genesis 
related radio gear. I was curious if there might be a flood of it on the market 
in the near future.

Thanks





--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, william...@... wrote:

 Narrow banding only affects VHF and UHF users. 
  
 bb
  
  
 In a message dated 8/6/2009 3:28:03 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
 hitekgearh...@... writes:
 
 I have a  question relating to the upcoming narrowbanding I have been 
 hearing about as  it relates to surplus equipment.
 
 Does the narrowbanding effect just  700, 800, 900MHz trunked systems? Or is 
 it across the board, including all  commercial VHF and UHF users?
 
 I was just curious as to what surplus  equipment might be available in the 
 near future as a  result.
 
 Thanks
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Yahoo!  Groups Links





[Repeater-Builder] Pacific Research RI-210 wanted

2009-08-08 Thread Matthew Kaufman
Looking for one or more RI-210 (VXR-5000 internal mount) to purchase or 
trade for other VXR-5000-relevant hardware. (I even have an RI-310 I 
could part with)

I'd be willing to take it with a 430-450 band or 2m-band VXR-5000, but 
I'd prefer just the controller(s).

Matthew Kaufman
matt...@matthew.at
http://www.wb6ece.org


RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Narrow banding question

2009-08-08 Thread N9WYS
Albert,

This depends on the service.  Public Safety and Business Radio services are
affected.  Amateur Radio and GMRS are not - at this time.  (IIRC)

I would certainly expect to see a glut of non-narrowband compatible
equipment enter the surplus market soon...

Mark - N9WYS

-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com  On Behalf Of Albert

Yes, I realize it effects only UHF and VHF users. Maybe I was unclear with
my question.

Is is ALL VHF and UHF users? I was under the impression it was only the
upper UHF trunked systems and the like. But maybe I was confused.

Will many users have to dump their older radios and have to upgrade?

I was wondering what surplus equipment might be coming onto the market due
to the changes.

If you have seen posts from me before, I am interested in Motorola Genesis
related radio gear. I was curious if there might be a flood of it on the
market in the near future.

Thanks



RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Narrow banding question

2009-08-08 Thread Eric Lemmon
All true.  However, I daresay that most of the non-convertible equipment has
already been taken out of service, long ago.  At least in my area, most
users of high-tier equipment like Spectra, TK-990, and CDM radios are
replacing them because they are getting long in the tooth- and these radios
are already narrow-band compliant.  Dual-bandwidth equipment first came on
the market more than a decade ago.

My gut feeling is that operators of large radio fleets will use the
narrow-banding deadline as a convenient time to replace the entire fleet at
once, not because of the narrow-banding requirement per se, but because they
must re-program every radio, base station, and repeater they own and do it
with minimum disruption.  When you have 2,000 radios, it can take a week or
more to reprogram the fleet.  If you use the deadline as an opportunity to
put new radios into service, you buy your 2,000 new radios a month in
advance and program and bench-test all of them on the narrow-band channels.
Just before the day you pick to make the changeover, you deliver new radios
and chargers to all users, with instructions to start using the new radios
on Monday morning.  The radio techs will ensure that the base stations
and/or repeaters are either reprogrammed or replaced just prior to that day.
If well-planned, this will work.  Obviously, users with many mobile radios
will need to allow extra time for replacing them.

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
 

-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of N9WYS
Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 3:36 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Narrow banding question

  

Albert,

This depends on the service. Public Safety and Business Radio services are
affected. Amateur Radio and GMRS are not - at this time. (IIRC)

I would certainly expect to see a glut of non-narrowband compatible
equipment enter the surplus market soon...

Mark - N9WYS

-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com  On Behalf Of Albert

Yes, I realize it effects only UHF and VHF users. Maybe I was unclear with
my question.

Is is ALL VHF and UHF users? I was under the impression it was only the
upper UHF trunked systems and the like. But maybe I was confused.

Will many users have to dump their older radios and have to upgrade?

I was wondering what surplus equipment might be coming onto the market due
to the changes.

If you have seen posts from me before, I am interested in Motorola Genesis
related radio gear. I was curious if there might be a flood of it on the
market in the near future.

Thanks







Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Narrow banding question

2009-08-08 Thread Brian Raker
In Southern California under SCRRBA, we're already semi-narrowbanding
in the 70cm / 440mHz band to 20kHz per channel/frequency.

IIRC, FRS and by extension GMRS is already 12.5kHz.

On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 3:36 PM, N9WYSn9...@ameritech.net wrote:
 Albert,

 This depends on the service.  Public Safety and Business Radio services are
 affected.  Amateur Radio and GMRS are not - at this time.  (IIRC)

 I would certainly expect to see a glut of non-narrowband compatible
 equipment enter the surplus market soon...

 Mark - N9WYS

 -Original Message-
 From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com  On Behalf Of Albert

 Yes, I realize it effects only UHF and VHF users. Maybe I was unclear with
 my question.

 Is is ALL VHF and UHF users? I was under the impression it was only the
 upper UHF trunked systems and the like. But maybe I was confused.

 Will many users have to dump their older radios and have to upgrade?

 I was wondering what surplus equipment might be coming onto the market due
 to the changes.

 If you have seen posts from me before, I am interested in Motorola Genesis
 related radio gear. I was curious if there might be a flood of it on the
 market in the near future.

 Thanks



 



 Yahoo! Groups Links






[Repeater-Builder] 2M Vertical Dipoles

2009-08-08 Thread Doug Rehman
I remember seeing a vertical dipole from one on the amateur antenna
manufacturers that was designed to bolt onto your mast or tower leg. I think
it might have come in a kit of 2 or 4.

I thought it was Cushcraft, but I couldn't find it. Does anyone have any
idea what antenna I thought I saw?

Thanks,
Doug
K4AC



Re: [Repeater-Builder] 2M Vertical Dipoles

2009-08-08 Thread Eric Lowell
Cushcraft used to have that antenna. Since discontinued. 
 
Regards de W1EL

Eric Lowell
Eastern Maine Electronics Inc.
48 Loon Road
Wesley ME 04686
eme@starband.net
www.satnetmaine.com


--- On Sat, 8/8/09, Doug Rehman d...@k4ac.com wrote:


From: Doug Rehman d...@k4ac.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] 2M Vertical Dipoles
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, August 8, 2009, 10:11 PM


  



I remember seeing a vertical dipole from one on the amateur antenna
manufacturers that was designed to bolt onto your mast or tower leg. I think
it might have come in a kit of 2 or 4.

I thought it was Cushcraft, but I couldn't find it. Does anyone have any
idea what antenna I thought I saw?

Thanks,
Doug
K4AC

















  

Re: [Repeater-Builder] 2M Vertical Dipoles

2009-08-08 Thread Chuck Kelsey
Cushcraft made a 4-pole array for 2-meters and for 440. Neither were 
particularly good antennas. They were gamma-fed dipoles with a connector 
that was nearly impossible to weatherproof. Lots better antennas out there.

Chuck
WB2EDV



- Original Message - 
From: Doug Rehman d...@k4ac.com
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 10:11 PM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] 2M Vertical Dipoles


I remember seeing a vertical dipole from one on the amateur antenna
 manufacturers that was designed to bolt onto your mast or tower leg. I 
 think
 it might have come in a kit of 2 or 4.

 I thought it was Cushcraft, but I couldn't find it. Does anyone have any
 idea what antenna I thought I saw?

 Thanks,
 Doug
 K4AC



 



 Yahoo! Groups Links






RE: [Repeater-Builder] 2M Vertical Dipoles

2009-08-08 Thread Doug Rehman
Thanks for the info on Cushcraft, although I thought I'd run across the
antenna I'm remembering within the last couple of months (current
production). 

I'm looking for something that I can mount on the mast of my home tower,
interwoven between other antennas on the mast. (Obviously with appropriate
spacing from anything that would seriously interact. Not looking to spend
either copious amounts of money buying a commercial antenna or copious
amounts of time building something from scratch.)

Doug
K4AC



RE: [Repeater-Builder] 2M Vertical Dipoles

2009-08-08 Thread Eric Lemmon
I recently installed a Telewave ANT-150-D single dipole on a side mast for a
link radio.  It works perfectly.  This is a commercial-quality, heavy-duty
antenna that covers 138-174 MHz.  Info here:
www.telewave.com/pdf/TWDS-7045.pdf
Disclaimer:  Although I frequently mention Telewave as a source for RF
products, I do so only as a satisfied customer.  I have no financial
connection to the company.

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
  

-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Kelsey
Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 7:19 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] 2M Vertical Dipoles

  

Cushcraft made a 4-pole array for 2-meters and for 440. Neither were 
particularly good antennas. They were gamma-fed dipoles with a connector 
that was nearly impossible to weatherproof. Lots better antennas out there.

Chuck
WB2EDV

- Original Message - 
From: Doug Rehman d...@k4ac.com mailto:doug%40k4ac.com 
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 10:11 PM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] 2M Vertical Dipoles

I remember seeing a vertical dipole from one on the amateur antenna
 manufacturers that was designed to bolt onto your mast or tower leg. I 
 think
 it might have come in a kit of 2 or 4.

 I thought it was Cushcraft, but I couldn't find it. Does anyone have any
 idea what antenna I thought I saw?

 Thanks,
 Doug
 K4AC



 



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Re: [Repeater-Builder] 2M Vertical Dipoles

2009-08-08 Thread Chuck Kelsey
FYI, MFJ just purchased the Cushcraft antenna line.

Chuck
WB2EDV



- Original Message - 
From: Doug Rehman d...@k4ac.com
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 10:31 PM
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] 2M Vertical Dipoles


 Thanks for the info on Cushcraft, although I thought I'd run across the
 antenna I'm remembering within the last couple of months (current
 production).

 I'm looking for something that I can mount on the mast of my home tower,
 interwoven between other antennas on the mast. (Obviously with appropriate
 spacing from anything that would seriously interact. Not looking to spend
 either copious amounts of money buying a commercial antenna or copious
 amounts of time building something from scratch.)

 Doug
 K4AC



 



 Yahoo! Groups Links






[Repeater-Builder] New file uploaded to Repeater-Builder

2009-08-08 Thread Repeater-Builder

Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the Repeater-Builder 
group.

  File: /SpectrumAnalyzer847/Spectan847.txt 
  Uploaded by : n3sdo ed.bathg...@ericsson.com 
  Description : Read - me type file describing features and operations of  
Spectan847 program. 

You can access this file at the URL:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/files/SpectrumAnalyzer847/Spectan847.txt
 

To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit:
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] 2M Vertical Dipoles

2009-08-08 Thread Cort Buffington
I've got experience with both their single ANT450D (single) and  
ANT450D6-9 (quad) UHF dipoles. I absolutely love them. I also  
frequently promote Telewave and have zero pecuniary interest in the  
company. In my experience their products are just awesome and the  
support is almost unbelievably good. I only believe it because I  
pinched myself and was awake during those conversations with folks at  
Telewave :)


On Aug 8, 2009, at 9:34 PM, Eric Lemmon wrote:

I recently installed a Telewave ANT-150-D single dipole on a side  
mast for a
link radio. It works perfectly. This is a commercial-quality, heavy- 
duty

antenna that covers 138-174 MHz. Info here:
www.telewave.com/pdf/TWDS-7045.pdf
Disclaimer: Although I frequently mention Telewave as a source for RF
products, I do so only as a satisfied customer. I have no financial
connection to the company.

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY


-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Kelsey
Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 7:19 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] 2M Vertical Dipoles

Cushcraft made a 4-pole array for 2-meters and for 440. Neither were
particularly good antennas. They were gamma-fed dipoles with a  
connector
that was nearly impossible to weatherproof. Lots better antennas out  
there.


Chuck
WB2EDV

- Original Message -
From: Doug Rehman d...@k4ac.com mailto:doug%40k4ac.com 
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 10:11 PM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] 2M Vertical Dipoles

I remember seeing a vertical dipole from one on the amateur antenna
 manufacturers that was designed to bolt onto your mast or tower  
leg. I

 think
 it might have come in a kit of 2 or 4.

 I thought it was Cushcraft, but I couldn't find it. Does anyone  
have any

 idea what antenna I thought I saw?

 Thanks,
 Doug
 K4AC



 



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Re: [Repeater-Builder] 2M Vertical Dipoles

2009-08-08 Thread Edmund F Leavitt
Do you recall if it was a dipole or folded dipole?


Edmund Leavitt   Ph:253 582-5034 
Ham / MARS / Federal   K7EFL / AFA0AH / KPS654 
Lakewood, WA   USNG: 10TET36292223

 
On Sat, 8 Aug 2009 22:11:52 -0400 Doug Rehman d...@k4ac.com writes:
 I remember seeing a vertical dipole from one on the amateur antenna
 manufacturers that was designed to bolt onto your mast or tower leg. 
 I think
 it might have come in a kit of 2 or 4.
 
 I thought it was Cushcraft, but I couldn't find it. Does anyone have 
 any
 idea what antenna I thought I saw?
 
 Thanks,
 Doug
 K4AC
 

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Narrow banding question

2009-08-08 Thread MCH
As have many other parts of the country - to 12.5 kHz on 440.

But, when you say narrowbanding, are you talking the actual users 
switching from NBFM (16.0 kHz BW) to SNFM (11.0 kHz BW) or are you just 
talking about the bandplan going from 25.0 kHz channels to 20.0 kHz 
channels and everyone is still using NBFM as they have for the past 
nearly 40 years?

Joe M.

Brian Raker wrote:
 In Southern California under SCRRBA, we're already semi-narrowbanding
 in the 70cm / 440mHz band to 20kHz per channel/frequency.
 
 IIRC, FRS and by extension GMRS is already 12.5kHz.


Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Narrow banding question

2009-08-08 Thread MCH
No, not all VHF/UHF, only the segments 136-512 MHz, and in those 
segments only the FCC Part 90 users (Public Safety, Business, 
Industrial, Etc.)

Joe M.

Albert wrote:
 Yes, I realize it effects only UHF and VHF users. Maybe I was unclear with my 
 question.
 
 Is is ALL VHF and UHF users? I was under the impression it was only the upper 
 UHF trunked systems and the like. But maybe I was confused.
 
 Will many users have to dump their older radios and have to upgrade?
 
 I was wondering what surplus equipment might be coming onto the market due to 
 the changes.
 
 If you have seen posts from me before, I am interested in Motorola Genesis 
 related radio gear. I was curious if there might be a flood of it on the 
 market in the near future.
 
 Thanks
 
 
 
 
 
 --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, william...@... wrote:
 Narrow banding only affects VHF and UHF users. 
  
 bb
  
  
 In a message dated 8/6/2009 3:28:03 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
 hitekgearh...@... writes:

 I have a  question relating to the upcoming narrowbanding I have been 
 hearing about as  it relates to surplus equipment.

 Does the narrowbanding effect just  700, 800, 900MHz trunked systems? Or is 
 it across the board, including all  commercial VHF and UHF users?

 I was just curious as to what surplus  equipment might be available in the 
 near future as a  result.

 Thanks



 



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Re: [Repeater-Builder] 2M Vertical Dipoles

2009-08-08 Thread MCH
I'm sure someone on *this* list will be able to correct me if I'm wrong, 
but I think you can mount virtually any of the dipole type antennas on 
the tower leg as long as you're not looking for a 360 pattern. An offset 
or figure-8 pattern, though, no problem. In fact, I've done this for 
commercial users, and in some cases such as Low Band dipoles, that's the 
only way to can mount them.

You might even be able to get away with it mounting one on each leg for 
a 360 pattern (with a little more gain in one direction for a 4-bay 
antenna), but your gain would be messed up since the signal would then 
be out of phase for each element in any given direction.

Joe M.

Doug Rehman wrote:
 I remember seeing a vertical dipole from one on the amateur antenna
 manufacturers that was designed to bolt onto your mast or tower leg. I think
 it might have come in a kit of 2 or 4.
 
 I thought it was Cushcraft, but I couldn't find it. Does anyone have any
 idea what antenna I thought I saw?
 
 Thanks,
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