Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: what pac-rt means

2009-10-25 Thread MCH
Actually, I would prefer the parn/neutral safety switch, as the door 
could be opened then closed to spit or something, and the VRS would be 
activated.

This is unless they always left the door open when they were out of the 
vehicle (a safety issue).

Joe M.

Milt wrote:
 Nice, and easier than the app where the PAC or VRS was wired to the PARK 
 switch on the vehicle transmission.
 
 Milt
 N3LTQ
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: wd8chl wd8...@gmail.com
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comoff-topic into how it works and how 
 it's used.
 OH Turnpike solved the 'radio not in the charger' problem by wiring the
 switch to the dome light switch, I think through some sort of flip-flop.
 When the officer stepped out of the vehicle, it went into repeat. Close
 the door. Get back in vehicle again, it goes out of repeat. I think
 there was more to it, too. I know there was also a manual switch on the
 console...


 



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[Repeater-Builder] Re: what pac-rt means

2009-10-25 Thread skipp025

Probably better I not disclose too much... but some 
extenders are always listening and a certain sequence 
of the right codes and activity on the extender's portable 
will remotely enable (turn on) the extender operation. 

The Officer/Operator can enable the extender/repeater unit 
from a remote location using just the portable and the 
right information.

As mentioned before... a courtesy tone beeping back at 
the control head tells the returning Officer the extender 
package is still enabled. And of course it's not easy 
to drive down the road with the control head beeping the 
extender on tone every few seconds. 

No additional hardware/wiring required and the anytime 
remote enable feature works very well, but it wasn't installed 
on all brands  models of extenders (vehicle repeaters). 

In Pyramid SVR Extenders... it's simply done in software. 

cheers, 
s. 

 MCH m...@... wrote:
 Actually, I would prefer the park/neutral safety 
 switch, as the door could be opened then closed to 
 spit or something, and the VRS would be activated.

 This is unless they always left the door open when 
 they were out of the vehicle (a safety issue).
 Joe M.

  Milt wrote:
  Nice, and easier than the app where the PAC or 
  VRS was wired to the PARK switch on the vehicle 
  transmission.
  Milt
  N3LTQ
  

   From: wd8chl wd8...@...
   OH Turnpike solved the 'radio not in the charger' 
   problem by wiring the switch to the dome light switch, 
   I think through some sort of flip-flop.
   When the officer stepped out of the vehicle, it went 
   into repeat. Close the door. Get back in vehicle again, 
   it goes out of repeat. I think there was more to it, 
   too. I know there was also a manual switch on the
   console...




Re: [Repeater-Builder] More about the PAC-RT

2009-10-25 Thread wd8chl
Mark wrote:
 I have one of these sitting in my basement gathering dust.  I'm wondering if
 this could be put to use as a control access point for one of my repeaters?
 
  
 
 Of course I wouldn't need it to return audio to the portable via that
 frequency, just be available as the input for repeater control.  It seems as
 if it could be used for this function, but I wanted to bounce this off the
 learned group for opinions.
 
  
 
 Thanks,
 
 Mark - N9WYS
 

Sure. The Motorola PAC-RT is basically a Handie-Com MH-10 or MH-70 (or 
2) in a box. If you have the book for one of them, on the band your unit 
is on, you have a good part of the RF board info, at least.



[Repeater-Builder] Equipment FS

2009-10-25 Thread microwavetechnology
Todays special prices good till this evening then it's off to Ebay:



1 each Telewave ANT-150D 4 bay dipole antenna 138-172 NOS with all hardware

$400.00 each


1 each Telewave ANT-150F2 fiberglass antenna 148-172 Demo/spare has a few 
scratches/clamp marks

$175.00 each


1 each Celwave BA1010-1 fiberglass antenna 146-164 Demo/spare in as new 
condition

$175.00 each


1 each Digital Antenna 826-VW VHF marine (designed for boat) NOS in original 
tube

$40.00 each


1 each Digital Antenna 883-CW 800/cell (designed for boat) NOS in original tube

$40.00 each


95 feet +- Andrew LDF4-50A 1/2 Heliax, spool end, will include 2 NEW L4PNM-RC 
N male connectors ($50.00 value)

$90.00 each


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$150.00 each


NEW L4PNM-RC N male connectors $7.50 each while they last.


All above are plus UPS shipping from 89801


Paypal only.


First come, first pays, first gets!


Thanks,

BJ

microwavetechnol...@yahoo.com



RE: [Repeater-Builder] More about the PAC-RT

2009-10-25 Thread Mark
OK, good to know.

Mine is on VHF (154.920 right now), and I'd probably want to move it to 2m
for my use.  

I haven't looked at the manual yet (I do have a digital form of the PAC-RT
VHF manual) but I assume these are rock-bound...  Hmmm. Time to research!

Thanks es 73,
Mark - N9WYS

-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of wd8chl

Mark wrote:
 I have one of these sitting in my basement gathering dust.  I'm wondering
if
 this could be put to use as a control access point for one of my
repeaters?
 
 Of course I wouldn't need it to return audio to the portable via that
 frequency, just be available as the input for repeater control.  It seems
as
 if it could be used for this function, but I wanted to bounce this off the
 learned group for opinions.
 
 Thanks,
 Mark - N9WYS
 

Sure. The Motorola PAC-RT is basically a Handie-Com MH-10 or MH-70 (or 
2) in a box. If you have the book for one of them, on the band your unit 
is on, you have a good part of the RF board info, at least.




[Repeater-Builder] Kenwood KSG-4500 repeater to external controller

2009-10-25 Thread gary
Hello,
I am looking for the pin-out of the DB-15F connector on the back of this 
repeater. Any help would be appreciated very much.
Thanks  73
Gary K2ACY



[Repeater-Builder] Has anyone duplexed a m1225 ?

2009-10-25 Thread Skip
I just bought an rkr1225 repeater and as I've been reading
about it I discovered that it's essentially the same radio
as an m1225 mobile.  I miss the days of driving around with
a duplexed UHF Micor and a noise canceling mic. Has
anyone tired to duplex a UHF M1225 mobile?

73's Skip WB6YMH



RE: [Repeater-Builder] Has anyone duplexed a m1225 ?

2009-10-25 Thread Eric Lemmon
Skip,

The M1225 mobile radio and the R1225 repeater are not the same, even though
they do share some circuit details.  Both the RKR1225 and the GR1225
repeaters contain an R1225 transceiver.  The obvious difference is that the
R1225 is a duplex radio by design, and the M1225 is a simplex radio by
design.  Also, the R1225 is almost double the size of the M1225, since the
box also contains a controller and a lot of shielding.  There is no way to
make the M1225 a duplex radio.

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY


-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Skip
Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 12:00 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Has anyone duplexed a m1225 ?

  

I just bought an RKR1225 repeater and as I've been reading
about it I discovered that it's essentially the same radio
as an M1225 mobile. I miss the days of driving around with
a duplexed UHF Micor and a noise canceling mic. Has
anyone tried to duplex a UHF M1225 mobile?

73's Skip WB6YMH



[Repeater-Builder] TH F6a Lost or stolen in the Bloomington IL area 6/09

2009-10-25 Thread Brian
Hi

I ether lost or had a F6 stolen later last July in the Bloomington 
area.  I have the serial number and the original box so if you have some 
information please email me at icsco...@earthlink.net

Thanks
Brian
ka9pmm
ICS


[Repeater-Builder] GE Mastr ii Mobile Connections

2009-10-25 Thread skipp025
Re: GE Mastr ii Mobile Connections 

We're trying to restore a GE Mastr ii Mobile Radio 
to original configuration, mounted on a square piece 
of plywood (to start off). The RF deck arrived from 
a local source, the control head and cable were from 
an Ebay auction. 

The control head has three white specialized Molex 
type 2-row connectors on the back. The large black 
control cable has only two of the matching connectors. 

Can one of you tell us what the third white Molex 
plug does? I'm thinking like Motorola Radios of this 
era the speaker and ignition sense wires might be 
sourced to the third missing plug assembly.  

If we need the third plug to restore this station 
original... anyone have one they'd like to sell or 
trade for? 

Just for testing RF Decks and placing the ones we 
have back into service we'd like to restore two or 
three GE Mastr ii Mobiles using most of the original 
parts.  Is there a decent source for used cables and 
the control heads? Is there any source for used 
cables and the control heads? 

Thanks in advance for your replies... Email me direct 
if you have some old GE Mastr ii Mobile Accessory 
packages you want to part with (sell or trade off). 

thanks a mucho... 

cheers, 
skipp 

skipp025 at yahoo.com  



[Repeater-Builder] Tait UHF Standby Repeater D-Band

2009-10-25 Thread Marcus
is there anyone on this list that resides in NZ and if so/not does 
anyone have any Cavity filters, if so how much
i have a Tait Repeater running D-BAND it was a backup system

would like to get it running, forgive the contradiction, the system is 
fully operational, i would like to put it to some use

must be loads of points i have not mentioned, so if need be fire away, i 
shall answer all my old almost had it brain can conjur up

Marcus




[Repeater-Builder] Control Tray power Cable on MSF5000

2009-10-25 Thread vk2pds
Hello Folks,
I am working on replacing a fried MSR2000 repeater.
I bought a Digital MSF5000 RF Tray and Control tray on ebay but unfortunately 
it is missing the power cable from the interconnect board on the back of the RF 
tray that goes to the Control Tray.

Is anyone able to tell me a part number for the cable? All of the material I 
have shows the power supply and stuff but it doesn't show that cable.
Even a part number/name of the plugs used in the cable would be a great help, 
someone may even have one they no longer need..I would be happy to pay for it.

Thanks in advance
Paul VK2PDS




Re: [Repeater-Builder] Tait UHF Standby Repeater D-Band

2009-10-25 Thread K5IN
I listed Decibel products DB-4071 duplexers a couple of days ago for $150.00 
shipped.

Brian, k...@comcast.net
  - Original Message - 
  From: Marcus 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 5:30 PM
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Tait UHF Standby Repeater D-Band


is there anyone on this list that resides in NZ and if so/not does 
  anyone have any Cavity filters, if so how much
  i have a Tait Repeater running D-BAND it was a backup system

  would like to get it running, forgive the contradiction, the system is 
  fully operational, i would like to put it to some use

  must be loads of points i have not mentioned, so if need be fire away, i 
  shall answer all my old almost had it brain can conjur up

  Marcus



  

[Repeater-Builder] Mitrek/MSR200 preamp needed

2009-10-25 Thread Wayne
I am in need of a HLD4051A or HLD4052A receiver preamp out of a Mitrek or 
MSR2000. This is the plug in preamp that goes in the helical resonator. This is 
for vhf 146.xx. If anyone has one or two let me know how much you want.

Thanks
Wayne 



[Repeater-Builder] Double Shielded Cable

2009-10-25 Thread kc8fwd
Hello,
What is a good source to get Double Shielded Cable with N connectors to go from 
the duplexer to receiver and duplexer to transmitter?
What kind of coax etc.All info is appreciated Thanke Mike KC8FWD



Re: [Repeater-Builder] Double Shielded Cable

2009-10-25 Thread Pointman
AI just bought several pre-made connectors from Advanced Receiver 
Research...but I'm sure you can buy the raw cable and make up your own, as 
well. 
de KM3W

--- On Sun, 10/25/09, kc8fwd kc8...@hotmail.com wrote:

From: kc8fwd kc8...@hotmail.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Double Shielded Cable
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, October 25, 2009, 11:17 PM












 
 





  Hello,

What is a good source to get Double Shielded Cable with N connectors to go from 
the duplexer to receiver and duplexer to transmitter?

What kind of coax etc.All info is appreciated Thanke Mike KC8FWD




 

  




 






















  

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Tait UHF Standby Repeater D-Band

2009-10-25 Thread Marcus

thats fine, but unless i am mistaken, a Duplexor is not a cavity filter

the duplexor is installed before the cavity filter(S) the output of the 
cavity filter(S) goes to the Aerial



Marcus


K5IN wrote:
 

I listed Decibel products DB-4071 duplexers a couple of days ago for 
$150.00 shipped.
 
Brian, k...@comcast.net mailto:k...@comcast.net


- Original Message -
*From:* Marcus mailto:arkwrights-st...@xtra.co.nz
*To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Sunday, October 25, 2009 5:30 PM
*Subject:* [Repeater-Builder] Tait UHF Standby Repeater D-Band

 


is there anyone on this list that resides in NZ and if so/not does
anyone have any Cavity filters, if so how much
i have a Tait Repeater running D-BAND it was a backup system

would like to get it running, forgive the contradiction, the
system is
fully operational, i would like to put it to some use

must be loads of points i have not mentioned, so if need be fire
away, i
shall answer all my old almost had it brain can conjur up

Marcus




Re: [Repeater-Builder] Double Shielded Cable

2009-10-25 Thread DCFluX
I just did that as well, nice cables, but it looks like they use lead free
solder.

Pasternack makes cables, but they have $100 minimum order, which isn't that
hard to meet as they are typically 3-6dB more than their competitors.

On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 8:20 PM, Pointman shield1...@yahoo.com wrote:



 AI just bought several pre-made connectors from Advanced Receiver
 Research...but I'm sure you can buy the raw cable and make up your own, as
 well.

 de KM3W

 --- On *Sun, 10/25/09, kc8fwd kc8...@hotmail.com* wrote:


 From: kc8fwd kc8...@hotmail.com
 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Double Shielded Cable
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Sunday, October 25, 2009, 11:17 PM




 Hello,
 What is a good source to get Double Shielded Cable with N connectors to go
 from the duplexer to receiver and duplexer to transmitter?
 What kind of coax etc.All info is appreciated Thanke Mike KC8FWD




 


Re: [Repeater-Builder] Tait UHF Standby Repeater D-Band

2009-10-25 Thread DCFluX
Duplexer is a generic term for a filter network that allows a single
antenna to be used for a receiver and transmitter in the same band, such as
a repeater. These usually take the form of several cavity resonators,
coaxial stubs or even helical resonators in either a band pass, notch reject
or band pass band reject.

A single cavity may be added between the duplexer and receiver if there is
alot of RF at the site and or the duplexer offers very little out of band
attenuation, But the cavity has to be a low enough quality to have a pass
band wide enough for both the transmit and receive frequencies.

Diplexer is a filter network that facilitates a single antenna to be used
on 2,3 or 4 different bands, either feeding a single radio or multiple
radios. Usually constructed with L/C filter networks.

A Combiner is a device which allows several transmitters, very close in
frequency to use a single antenna. These are usually a dual stage circulator
followed by large band pass cavitiy per channel into a passive power divider
with enough ports to handle the total number of channels

A Circulator is essentially a one way valve that allows RF to pass in one
direction. Used in combiners and for intermod control to keep transmitters
from mixing stray RF. Power refelected back from the antenna goes into a
dummy load instead of the transmitter.




On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 8:14 PM, Marcus arkwrights-st...@xtra.co.nz wrote:



 thats fine, but unless i am mistaken, a Duplexor is not a cavity filter

 the duplexor is installed before the cavity filter(S) the output of the
 cavity filter(S) goes to the Aerial


 Marcus


 K5IN wrote:



 I listed Decibel products DB-4071 duplexers a couple of days ago for
 $150.00 shipped.

 Brian, k...@comcast.net

 - Original Message -
 *From:* Marcus arkwrights-st...@xtra.co.nz
 *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 *Sent:* Sunday, October 25, 2009 5:30 PM
 *Subject:* [Repeater-Builder] Tait UHF Standby Repeater D-Band



 is there anyone on this list that resides in NZ and if so/not does
 anyone have any Cavity filters, if so how much
 i have a Tait Repeater running D-BAND it was a backup system

 would like to get it running, forgive the contradiction, the system is
 fully operational, i would like to put it to some use

 must be loads of points i have not mentioned, so if need be fire away, i
 shall answer all my old almost had it brain can conjur up

 Marcus



 


Re: [Repeater-Builder] Tait UHF Standby Repeater D-Band

2009-10-25 Thread Marcus
yes i am aware of this, but what i am after is if anyone has the cavity 
filter that is placed after the duplexor and before the aerial

all depends on price of course


Marcus


DCFluX wrote:
 

Duplexer is a generic term for a filter network that allows a single 
antenna to be used for a receiver and transmitter in the same band, 
such as a repeater. These usually take the form of several cavity 
resonators, coaxial stubs or even helical resonators in either a band 
pass, notch reject or band pass band reject.


A single cavity may be added between the duplexer and receiver if 
there is alot of RF at the site and or the duplexer offers very little 
out of band attenuation, But the cavity has to be a low enough quality 
to have a pass band wide enough for both the transmit and receive 
frequencies.


Diplexer is a filter network that facilitates a single antenna to be 
used on 2,3 or 4 different bands, either feeding a single radio or 
multiple radios. Usually constructed with L/C filter networks.


A Combiner is a device which allows several transmitters, very close 
in frequency to use a single antenna. These are usually a dual stage 
circulator followed by large band pass cavitiy per channel into a 
passive power divider with enough ports to handle the total number of 
channels


A Circulator is essentially a one way valve that allows RF to pass 
in one direction. Used in combiners and for intermod control to keep 
transmitters from mixing stray RF. Power refelected back from the 
antenna goes into a dummy load instead of the transmitter.





On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 8:14 PM, Marcus arkwrights-st...@xtra.co.nz 
mailto:arkwrights-st...@xtra.co.nz wrote:




thats fine, but unless i am mistaken, a Duplexor is not a cavity
filter

the duplexor is installed before the cavity filter(S) the output
of the cavity filter(S) goes to the Aerial


Marcus


K5IN wrote:
 
I listed Decibel products DB-4071 duplexers a couple of days ago

for $150.00 shipped.
 
Brian, k...@comcast.net mailto:k...@comcast.net


- Original Message -
*From:* Marcus mailto:arkwrights-st...@xtra.co.nz
*To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Sunday, October 25, 2009 5:30 PM
*Subject:* [Repeater-Builder] Tait UHF Standby Repeater D-Band

 


is there anyone on this list that resides in NZ and if so/not
does
anyone have any Cavity filters, if so how much
i have a Tait Repeater running D-BAND it was a backup system

would like to get it running, forgive the contradiction, the
system is
fully operational, i would like to put it to some use

must be loads of points i have not mentioned, so if need be
fire away, i
shall answer all my old almost had it brain can conjur up

Marcus








RE: [Repeater-Builder] Double Shielded Cable

2009-10-25 Thread Michael Ryan
Call Joel at the RF Connection in Gaithersburg, MD .  He can make up
whatever you want with whatever connectors you want.  He is on the web.

-  Mike

 

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of DCFluX
Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 11:30 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Double Shielded Cable

 

  

I just did that as well, nice cables, but it looks like they use lead free
solder. 

Pasternack makes cables, but they have $100 minimum order, which isn't that
hard to meet as they are typically 3-6dB more than their competitors.

On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 8:20 PM, Pointman shield1...@yahoo.com wrote:

 


AI just bought several pre-made connectors from Advanced Receiver
Research...but I'm sure you can buy the raw cable and make up your own, as
well. 

 

de KM3W

--- On Sun, 10/25/09, kc8fwd kc8...@hotmail.com wrote:


From: kc8fwd kc8...@hotmail.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Double Shielded Cable
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, October 25, 2009, 11:17 PM

 

  

Hello,
What is a good source to get Double Shielded Cable with N connectors to go
from the duplexer to receiver and duplexer to transmitter?
What kind of coax etc.All info is appreciated Thanke Mike KC8FWD





 





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[Repeater-Builder] Uniden smu300k Program question

2009-10-25 Thread paulamywood
Hello I have 4 of the SMU300K UHF Radios.

I thought they were the SMU300 but their is a k at the end of it.
I think these are the older eprom units.  Does anyboy have any infomation 
regarding these?

The programmer that I have is the AMX 500 which works great on the newer 
radios.  Since I thought these were the smu300 I read the radio then when I 
went to program it flashes 0 now.

If this is the eprom can it be reprogrammed?
Is there an adaptor or software to program these.

I also have access to an AMx500C Stand alone programer
and an AMX 190 cable.

The Software version guide shows a amx191.  Would it still work?



[Repeater-Builder] Re: Mitrek/MSR200 preamp needed

2009-10-25 Thread burkleoj
Wayne,
I have had much better luck with Angle Linear preamps than the Mitrek/MSR2000 
units.

Chip does offer a Amateur Discount also.

If you absolutely have to have a factory preamp, I will look through my 
MSR2000/Mitrek VHF units and see if I have one.

Joe - WA7JAW

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Wayne wa5...@... wrote:

 I am in need of a HLD4051A or HLD4052A receiver preamp out of a Mitrek or 
 MSR2000. This is the plug in preamp that goes in the helical resonator. This 
 is for vhf 146.xx. If anyone has one or two let me know how much you want.
 
 Thanks
 Wayne





[Repeater-Builder] Re: Double Shielded Cable

2009-10-25 Thread burkleoj
Mike,
My personal preference is Andrew FSJ1-50 1/4 superflex. To save on connectors 
you can use silver/teflon PL-259 or the new style silver N connectors that 
assemble like a PL-259 with a silver UG-176 reducer on this cable. Just drill a 
1/8 hole through the reducer to solder to the copper jacket. Assemble the rest 
of the connector as normal.

I have had very good results on both VHF and UHF. Often times I cna pick up a 
few DB extra isolation which really helps with desense on VHF where we only 
have 600 KHz of spacing and need all the help we can get.

Joe - WA7JAW

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, kc8fwd kc8...@... wrote:

 Hello,
 What is a good source to get Double Shielded Cable with N connectors to go 
 from the duplexer to receiver and duplexer to transmitter?
 What kind of coax etc.All info is appreciated Thanke Mike KC8FWD