Re: [Repeater-Builder] Off Topic (religious or other) posts - please read.
here here i agree, shove the cristianty to where it belongs,,,this is NOT IT yes you got it, im not christian, and i don't give to rats toss for it, say what you like, i DONT CARE shove it up where the clouds meet the sky , this group is for repeaters and the like i love this group for the group that it is, Radio Telephone and the alike not how many friggin watts i can pump out my church thumping door slamming bible bashing Motorola Second edition Gordon ramsey F* you G* the friggin H out of my church if no one likes what i have just said tough luck Harden up get a life, theres more to life that that crap kick me,moderate me, ban i don't care, i like the group for what it is, not what a few idiots want it to be please bring on more Repeater and R/T problems, this is how i better myself, not your way, but ,,,MY WAY,,, Marcus Kevin Custer wrote: I asked once already for everyone to stop the threads where OT posts are concerned - many didn't listen. I'll ask once more - please do NOT post about this OT subject again. If I cannot gain the respect of those continuing to post, I WILL SHUT THE LIST OFF for a few awhile and we'll have a nice vacation. Those continuing with the OT posts will be promptly banned - period. Thank you for your consideration, Kevin Custer List Owner
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: uniden key
Having looked at the web site for those locks. i wonder if the lock is not any different to a standard Lockwood padlock Marcus lenaw12 wrote: And if that doesn't work (which is hard to believe)...my daughter is stationed in Okinawa and I could have her go to the local locksmith assuming they have those there. She could grab a handful of blanks and someone could distribute them to interested parties. LW --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com, Eric Lemmon wb6...@... wrote: Kevin, The chances are good that at least one domestic key made for file cabinets, storage lockers, and screen or garage door locks will slide easily into the Takigen lock on a Uniden radio. Once such a key blank is found, the cuts from a genuine Uniden radio key can be cut into that blank and- Voila! Rather than trying to track down the exact Takigen key or key blank, perhaps a better plan is to take either the Uniden lock mechanism- or the whole radio unit if necessary- to a good lock shop, so that the locksmith can try a number of standard key blanks to find the one or more that fits into the lock. Then, the genuine Takigen key can be decoded using standard key cut procedures to determine the proper notch depths. Once this is done, we can post the results for all to see and benefit from. Give a locksmith data of the form Cuts 3-1-6-4-2 on an ILCO X239B blank will result in a key that works. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
[Repeater-Builder] GMRS Repeater Project Progress
Got a Motorola Desktrac, 150 ft 1/2 inch hardline, PD Station Master, Surge Arrestor, LMR 400 Jumpers, 6 Cavity Notch Duplexer. I have will over on batlabs tuning up the duplexer and recapping/aligning my spectra's, and re aligning my sabers. i am thinking that i will turn the power down on the desktrac to 10-15 watts. still don't have a GMRS license or a site for the repeater.
RE: [Repeater-Builder] GMRS Repeater Project Progress
Sounds like your on your way. My past boss had once said. BOY'S YOU CAN'T PLAY RADIO UNLESS YOU HAVE FREQ'S. If your looking for a GMRS frequency contact me off the list. Mike Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of kc8gpd Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 7:52 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] GMRS Repeater Project Progress Got a Motorola Desktrac, 150 ft 1/2 inch hardline, PD Station Master, Surge Arrestor, LMR 400 Jumpers, 6 Cavity Notch Duplexer. I have will over on batlabs tuning up the duplexer and recapping/aligning my spectra's, and re aligning my sabers. i am thinking that i will turn the power down on the desktrac to 10-15 watts. still don't have a GMRS license or a site for the repeater. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.76/2518 - Release Date: 11/22/09 07:38:00
[Repeater-Builder] Re: OT - re: contest replies to callers...
...I have been called an 'ass' before ... ... Shut up, Jeremy, ... At 03:56 PM 11/21/09 -, you wrote: If you're really an OF like me... you also add the PSE QSL VIA THE BURRO. ok gd luck in the contest... S. Adam T. Cately atcat...@... wrote: SOooo - you're a code-maven, too, Skipp? When I run the local nets (or mostly, when I'm trying to corral a rag-chew on the local frequencies) my favorite response to a check-in is - You're 5-9-plus, but I need a repeat on your suffix and your station location, this is KB8MDF... I hear this all the time on HF voice - contest replies that suggest you were full-scale, full-quieting, fully readable, but the returning station needs a repeat on your pertinent information. If a station is 5-9-plus, why would you need a repeat? (sorry - just a black-sheep musing on a dreary Saturday morning) Please carry forth... - Adam - s. (you're 5,9,9 - good luck in the contest) Yahoo! Groups Links - Adam -
Re: [Repeater-Builder] AM stereo
At 11/21/2009 18:13, you wrote: there were 5. kahn ISB, motorola CQUAM, belar, harris, and magnavox. Do one of these cause a rubber band sound when listening off channel (+/- 10 kHz)? There's an AM station in Needles (KTOX 1340) that does this - very weird sounding. Bob NO6B
Re: [Repeater-Builder] AM stereo
them or a adjacent station are probably running IBOC Digital. no licensed AM stations run anything other then CQUAM or IBOC - Original Message - From: n...@no6b.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 11:15 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] AM stereo At 11/21/2009 18:13, you wrote: there were 5. kahn ISB, motorola CQUAM, belar, harris, and magnavox. Do one of these cause a rubber band sound when listening off channel (+/- 10 kHz)? There's an AM station in Needles (KTOX 1340) that does this - very weird sounding. Bob NO6B Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Acceptable RB Religious Discussions
You forgot about EF Johnson and Harris... or are they sacrilegious? :P -Brian / KF4ZWZ On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 9:48 AM, Paul Plack pl...@xmission.com wrote: Guys, please...the only sanctioned religious discussion on this board is Motorola vs GE. 73, Paul, AE4KR
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola Spectra 900's
Been there done that seven years ago...it is a liiittle more than the three items listed that need to be done For the NUC RX idea, I have been thinking about doing a rx for that purpose, however, my concern is, will all that work have pay dirt... If some one can show the 902 rx front end is truly usable in high rf environment, I will work with them to...git-er-done... I currently have two 900 spectras in a sales catalog bag with wide duplexer and controller to operate on any one of the eighty channels 902-903 and 927-928. All that's needed is twelve volts and antenna. . Bill w4oo jawjabill-- bellsouth- net . --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, James Adkins adkins.ja...@... wrote: I've done quite a bit with the Spectras; hacked the software, re-tuned the VCO after modifying, re-capped them, etc. I think they're great radios. Just thought since it's difficult / impossible to get maxtrac filters, and knowing how good the Spectra receivers are, they'd be a nice alternative to go with a Motorola Nuc as a receiver. Not sure that there is COR present on the 15-pin accessory pin, but seems like when I looked at that before there wasn't. I'm sure that can be found somewhere inside the rig, though. Can you e-mail me off the list with what you have? Thanks, James On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 9:35 PM, John Gleichweit smokeyb...@...wrote: I'll second the motion for a write-up. If you have high-rez pictures, that'll help even more. I have 2 900MHz A5 Spectras that I want to tweak into the 902 band. -- John Smokey Behr Gleichweit FF1/EMT, CCNA, MCSE IPN-CAL023 N6FOG UP Fresno Sub MP183.5 ECV1852 List Owner x10, Moderator x9 CalEMA 51-507 http://smokeybehr.blogspot.com http://www.myspace.com/smokeybehr - Original Message From: Mark n9...@... n9wys%40ameritech.net To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comRepeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, November 21, 2009 6:34:32 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola Spectra 900's Mel, Reference the write-up, PLEASE DO!!! There are others here who would be grateful for the knowledge (myself included). 73, Mark - N9WYS -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comRepeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.comOn Behalf Of wa6jbd I've managed to get 900 Spectras to receive in the 902 range. There are three steps, and it's not necessarily a 'beginner project'. 1. Hack bandlimits to allow programming 2. Modify VCO 3. Retune front end filter. It's possible to meet or exceed rated performance after modification, but takes patience, a steady hand, and a network analyzer or spectrum analyzer and tracking generator. I'm toying with the idea of putting together an article on how to do it, complete with pictures it there is sufficient interest. In the meantime, I'd be happy to supply a description of what's involved to anyone who'd like to give it a try. Mel - WA6JBD --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comRepeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com, James Adkins wrote: Looking for anyone that's actually used a Motorola Spectra to RX on 902.xxx MHz for a repeater receiver Has anyone on the list tried this? Looking for something besides the standard maxtrac option. -- James Adkins, KB0NHX Vice-President -- Nixa Amateur Radio Club, Inc. (KC0LUN) Southern Missouri Frequency Coordinator - Missouri Repeater Council www.nixahams.net The Nixa Amateur Radio Club - There is no charge for awesomeness! (Well, only $1.00 per month) Yahoo! Groups Links -- James Adkins, KB0NHX Vice-President -- Nixa Amateur Radio Club, Inc. (KC0LUN) Southern Missouri Frequency Coordinator - Missouri Repeater Council www.nixahams.net The Nixa Amateur Radio Club - There is no charge for awesomeness! (Well, only $1.00 per month)
[Repeater-Builder] Uniden Key Mystery SOLVED!
Ok people here's the scoop: pop @ Lee Hardware has been cutting keys for 60 yrs, so consider him a master. The blank is an industry standard SL1, he used an ILCO. The convex groove is thinner. The concave groove is wider. This allows the key to fit, anyone telling you this is the wrong blank should'nt be cutting keys! He does not have a coding machine so all measurements are made with calipers. pop measured it so don't gripe to me :-) The cut side of the key is the top side. All measurements are in thousandths and pin cuts are measured from tip (insertion end) to head. Move Top stop (nearest head, cutting side) back .250 towards head. Move bottom stop (uncut side) back .105 towards head. First pin cut (from tip) .238 back x .032 deep. Second pin cut (from tip) .242 back x .015 deep. Third pin cut (from tip) .536 back x .018 deep. So if you have an ametuer key cutter but have a small needle file and some calipers, you're in business. maybe a vice would help too. Now that this mystery is solved would anyone have the time (since im studying for school) to look up the CES 4700vp simplex, half-duplex interconnect and tell me the internal jumper configuration settings so i can use it in place of the hln RICK in my GR300 (2 M120's)repeater for CWID and delay. Kurt Metzler, Metzler radio engineering, MRE Direct, fabricated an interconnect cable for me so no problem there. I fully realize no phone calls allowed on GMRS so we don't need any posts telling me i can't use it. It is a fully functional repeater controller as well. Hope everyone benefits from this information and a happy thanksgiving to all! Sincerely, Kevin p.s. if someone could place this in the appropriate file section it would be appreciated as i have 3 chapters to read by tomorrow. Plus i can't figure it out :-) !
Re: [Repeater-Builder] AM stereo
At 11/22/2009 08:59, you wrote: them or a adjacent station are probably running IBOC Digital. Not IBOC; I think I first heard it before IBOC existed. Off-channel IBOC just sounds like noise. no licensed AM stations run anything other then CQUAM or IBOC Last time I heard it was almost 2 years ago, so maybe some other AM stereo modes were in use at the time. Bob NO6B
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola Spectra 900's
At 10:22 AM 11/22/09, you wrote: Been there done that seven years ago...it is a liiittle more than the three items listed that need to be done For the NUC RX idea, I have been thinking about doing a rx for that purpose, however, my concern is, will all that work have pay dirt... If some one can show the 902 rx front end is truly usable in high rf environment, I will work with them to...git-er-done... What's wrong with a Moto Aux Receiver (a Micor) on 900? They exist, work REAL well, have independent COR (channel busy) and PL decode lines, etc. The Aux Receiver chassis has the receiver board vertical, the MSF Link Receiver chassis has it horizontal to take up less rack space. I currently have two 900 spectras in a sales catalog bag with wide duplexer and controller to operate on any one of the eighty channels 902-903 and 927-928. All that's needed is twelve volts and antenna. Want to do an article on it? Mike WA6ILQ
Re: [Repeater-Builder] AM stereo
not since 1993. at least not legally. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AM_stereo - Original Message - From: n...@no6b.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 3:22 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] AM stereo At 11/22/2009 08:59, you wrote: them or a adjacent station are probably running IBOC Digital. Not IBOC; I think I first heard it before IBOC existed. Off-channel IBOC just sounds like noise. no licensed AM stations run anything other then CQUAM or IBOC Last time I heard it was almost 2 years ago, so maybe some other AM stereo modes were in use at the time. Bob NO6B Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT - re: contest replies to callers...
On Sat, 21 Nov 2009, Adam T. Cately wrote: If a station is 5-9-plus, why would you need a repeat? Local QRM -- other operator won't shut up, or hearing temporarily masked by loud noise. Or stationed too close to the generator. Or... -- Kris Kirby, KE4AHR Disinformation Analyst
Re: [Repeater-Builder] AM stereo
Might have something to do with their chicken wire ground plane. They used to have a Sparta/Bauer 707, but at last report they gave it to some local tweakers that were going to turn it into a CB linear, and they were running some kind of 1kW solid state box. On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 9:15 AM, n...@no6b.com wrote: At 11/21/2009 18:13, you wrote: there were 5. kahn ISB, motorola CQUAM, belar, harris, and magnavox. Do one of these cause a rubber band sound when listening off channel (+/- 10 kHz)? There's an AM station in Needles (KTOX 1340) that does this - very weird sounding. Bob NO6B Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] AM stereo
they gave it to some local tweakers that were going to turn it into a CB linear, are you freaking kidding me?? I am a CB'er as well as a ham and would not dare hack up such a classic transmitter for a CB linear. the idiot that made that decision needs to have his head examined I would have restored such a Tx and slapped my AMS Exciter into it and just sit back as i am now waiting for a LPAM Service to be created.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola Spectra 900's
A Micor receiver on 900 would be great! I have never seen anything about that, but haven't really considered it. We use a Micor for our 145.270 machine, and used one on our 224.280 for quite a while. I have a Micor aux receiver rack, anyone have a 900 MHz receiver board for sale? Do they make a nice Micor helical pre-amp for 900 as well? Thanks for the great idea, Mike. On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 2:23 PM, Mike Morris WA6ILQ wa6...@gmail.comwrote: At 10:22 AM 11/22/09, you wrote: Been there done that seven years ago...it is a liiittle more than the three items listed that need to be done For the NUC RX idea, I have been thinking about doing a rx for that purpose, however, my concern is, will all that work have pay dirt... If some one can show the 902 rx front end is truly usable in high rf environment, I will work with them to...git-er-done... What's wrong with a Moto Aux Receiver (a Micor) on 900? They exist, work REAL well, have independent COR (channel busy) and PL decode lines, etc. The Aux Receiver chassis has the receiver board vertical, the MSF Link Receiver chassis has it horizontal to take up less rack space. I currently have two 900 spectras in a sales catalog bag with wide duplexer and controller to operate on any one of the eighty channels 902-903 and 927-928. All that's needed is twelve volts and antenna. Want to do an article on it? Mike WA6ILQ -- James Adkins, KB0NHX Vice-President -- Nixa Amateur Radio Club, Inc. (KC0LUN) Southern Missouri Frequency Coordinator - Missouri Repeater Council www.nixahams.net The Nixa Amateur Radio Club - There is no charge for awesomeness! (Well, only $1.00 per month)
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola Spectra 900's
I wonder, are the Micor receivers 2.5 kHz bandwidth or wideband. On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 2:23 PM, Mike Morris WA6ILQ wa6...@gmail.comwrote: At 10:22 AM 11/22/09, you wrote: Been there done that seven years ago...it is a liiittle more than the three items listed that need to be done For the NUC RX idea, I have been thinking about doing a rx for that purpose, however, my concern is, will all that work have pay dirt... If some one can show the 902 rx front end is truly usable in high rf environment, I will work with them to...git-er-done... What's wrong with a Moto Aux Receiver (a Micor) on 900? They exist, work REAL well, have independent COR (channel busy) and PL decode lines, etc. The Aux Receiver chassis has the receiver board vertical, the MSF Link Receiver chassis has it horizontal to take up less rack space. I currently have two 900 spectras in a sales catalog bag with wide duplexer and controller to operate on any one of the eighty channels 902-903 and 927-928. All that's needed is twelve volts and antenna. Want to do an article on it? Mike WA6ILQ -- James Adkins, KB0NHX Vice-President -- Nixa Amateur Radio Club, Inc. (KC0LUN) Southern Missouri Frequency Coordinator - Missouri Repeater Council www.nixahams.net The Nixa Amateur Radio Club - There is no charge for awesomeness! (Well, only $1.00 per month)
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola Spectra 900's
Micor 900 receivers at +/- 5 KC. -- Original Message -- Received: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 03:31:31 PM PST From: James Adkins adkins.ja...@gmail.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola Spectra 900's I wonder, are the Micor receivers 2.5 kHz bandwidth or wideband. On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 2:23 PM, Mike Morris WA6ILQ wa6...@gmail.comwrote: At 10:22 AM 11/22/09, you wrote: Been there done that seven years ago...it is a liiittle more than the three items listed that need to be done For the NUC RX idea, I have been thinking about doing a rx for that purpose, however, my concern is, will all that work have pay dirt... If some one can show the 902 rx front end is truly usable in high rf environment, I will work with them to...git-er-done... What's wrong with a Moto Aux Receiver (a Micor) on 900? They exist, work REAL well, have independent COR (channel busy) and PL decode lines, etc. The Aux Receiver chassis has the receiver board vertical, the MSF Link Receiver chassis has it horizontal to take up less rack space. I currently have two 900 spectras in a sales catalog bag with wide duplexer and controller to operate on any one of the eighty channels 902-903 and 927-928. All that's needed is twelve volts and antenna. Want to do an article on it? Mike WA6ILQ -- James Adkins, KB0NHX Vice-President -- Nixa Amateur Radio Club, Inc. (KC0LUN) Southern Missouri Frequency Coordinator - Missouri Repeater Council www.nixahams.net The Nixa Amateur Radio Club - There is no charge for awesomeness! (Well, only $1.00 per month)
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola Spectra 900's
Went to Repeater Builder, looks like the did make a 2.5 kHz 900 board. Good overview of the aux receivers and spectra tac receivers there. On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 5:46 PM, JOHN MACKEY jmac...@usa.net wrote: Micor 900 receivers at +/- 5 KC. -- Original Message -- Received: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 03:31:31 PM PST From: James Adkins adkins.ja...@gmail.com adkins.james%40gmail.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola Spectra 900's I wonder, are the Micor receivers 2.5 kHz bandwidth or wideband. On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 2:23 PM, Mike Morris WA6ILQ wa6...@gmail.com wa6ilq%40gmail.comwrote: At 10:22 AM 11/22/09, you wrote: Been there done that seven years ago...it is a liiittle more than the three items listed that need to be done For the NUC RX idea, I have been thinking about doing a rx for that purpose, however, my concern is, will all that work have pay dirt... If some one can show the 902 rx front end is truly usable in high rf environment, I will work with them to...git-er-done... What's wrong with a Moto Aux Receiver (a Micor) on 900? They exist, work REAL well, have independent COR (channel busy) and PL decode lines, etc. The Aux Receiver chassis has the receiver board vertical, the MSF Link Receiver chassis has it horizontal to take up less rack space. I currently have two 900 spectras in a sales catalog bag with wide duplexer and controller to operate on any one of the eighty channels 902-903 and 927-928. All that's needed is twelve volts and antenna. Want to do an article on it? Mike WA6ILQ -- James Adkins, KB0NHX Vice-President -- Nixa Amateur Radio Club, Inc. (KC0LUN) Southern Missouri Frequency Coordinator - Missouri Repeater Council www.nixahams.net The Nixa Amateur Radio Club - There is no charge for awesomeness! (Well, only $1.00 per month) -- James Adkins, KB0NHX Vice-President -- Nixa Amateur Radio Club, Inc. (KC0LUN) Southern Missouri Frequency Coordinator - Missouri Repeater Council www.nixahams.net The Nixa Amateur Radio Club - There is no charge for awesomeness! (Well, only $1.00 per month)
[Repeater-Builder] PIN 2 of J6 on a Motorola Maxtrac before or after PL decode circuit?
Hello All, On PIN 2 of J6 inside the Motorola Maxtrac you can grab the COR for the radio. However, does anyone know if this is before or after the PL decode off the radio? I.e, if I have PL decode configured on the radio, will this COR go low only when the correct PL is received or will it go low whenever audio is received? Thank you, Mike
RE: [Repeater-Builder] GE MVP tuneup
Jef I was starting from the beginning - on the receiver. Am going through the steps again later this week. Will contact you with any questions. Also, thanks for your offer, Bob. will contact you if needed Chas, KS3Z --- On Sat, 11/21/09, Jeff DePolo j...@broadsci.com wrote: From: Jeff DePolo j...@broadsci.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] GE MVP tuneup To: 'Charles Schmell' kb3...@yahoo.com Date: Saturday, November 21, 2009, 6:08 PM I can help you if you get stuck. Are you having a problem with the exciter or receiver tuning? --- Jeff WN3A -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Charles Schmell Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 5:59 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] GE MVP tuneup Greeting, all, I am trying to tune up a high-band MVP to use as a backup repeater for our club in SE Pennsylvania. I have read the procedures on RB, and on the NHRC site. I have the ICOMs, and the GE test set. Unless there is a problem with the test set, I can't figure out the tuning. It goes well to a point, but I just seem to get lost. I figure if there's someone close to here, that can elmer me in person, I would then know what the problem is. FYI, the radio worked fine on the original 155.xx frequencies. Email either on the list, or private, to: k...@comcast.net mailto:k...@comcast.net Thanks, all! Charles, KS3Z No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.61/2498 - Release Date: 11/21/09 07:47:00
[Repeater-Builder] R1225 Question
I have two R1225 repeaters, but only one control head. Does anyone know what mode the radio stays in with the head removed? Both radios are 4 mode radios. I do have the strapping info when taking off the head to make it active. I want to go up to the site with the UHF R1225 and remove the head, but don't know what mode it will be in without the head. All 4 modes are programmed in this particular radio. 73, Joe, K1ike
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola Spectra 900's
They should be neither 2.5 kHz or Wideband FM (never heard of a wideband FM Micor). They should be 11.0 kHz bandwidth - for 2.5 kHz deviation, although they could be 16.0 kHz bandwidth for 5.0 kHz deviation. Joe M. James Adkins wrote: I wonder, are the Micor receivers 2.5 kHz bandwidth or wideband. On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 2:23 PM, Mike Morris WA6ILQ wa6...@gmail.com mailto:wa6...@gmail.com wrote: At 10:22 AM 11/22/09, you wrote: Been there done that seven years ago...it is a liiittle more than the three items listed that need to be done For the NUC RX idea, I have been thinking about doing a rx for that purpose, however, my concern is, will all that work have pay dirt... If some one can show the 902 rx front end is truly usable in high rf environment, I will work with them to...git-er-done... What's wrong with a Moto Aux Receiver (a Micor) on 900? They exist, work REAL well, have independent COR (channel busy) and PL decode lines, etc. The Aux Receiver chassis has the receiver board vertical, the MSF Link Receiver chassis has it horizontal to take up less rack space. I currently have two 900 spectras in a sales catalog bag with wide duplexer and controller to operate on any one of the eighty channels 902-903 and 927-928. All that's needed is twelve volts and antenna. Want to do an article on it? Mike WA6ILQ -- James Adkins, KB0NHX Vice-President -- Nixa Amateur Radio Club, Inc. (KC0LUN) Southern Missouri Frequency Coordinator - Missouri Repeater Council www.nixahams.net http://www.nixahams.net The Nixa Amateur Radio Club - There is no charge for awesomeness! (Well, only $1.00 per month) No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.77/2520 - Release Date: 11/22/09 14:40:00
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola Spectra 900's
Just wanted to make sure they'd work with the Spectras, GTX's and other gear already out there. On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 7:39 PM, MCH m...@nb.net wrote: They should be neither 2.5 kHz or Wideband FM (never heard of a wideband FM Micor). They should be 11.0 kHz bandwidth - for 2.5 kHz deviation, although they could be 16.0 kHz bandwidth for 5.0 kHz deviation. Joe M. James Adkins wrote: I wonder, are the Micor receivers 2.5 kHz bandwidth or wideband. On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 2:23 PM, Mike Morris WA6ILQ wa6...@gmail.comwa6ilq%40gmail.com mailto:wa6...@gmail.com wa6ilq%40gmail.com wrote: At 10:22 AM 11/22/09, you wrote: Been there done that seven years ago...it is a liiittle more than the three items listed that need to be done For the NUC RX idea, I have been thinking about doing a rx for that purpose, however, my concern is, will all that work have pay dirt... If some one can show the 902 rx front end is truly usable in high rf environment, I will work with them to...git-er-done... What's wrong with a Moto Aux Receiver (a Micor) on 900? They exist, work REAL well, have independent COR (channel busy) and PL decode lines, etc. The Aux Receiver chassis has the receiver board vertical, the MSF Link Receiver chassis has it horizontal to take up less rack space. I currently have two 900 spectras in a sales catalog bag with wide duplexer and controller to operate on any one of the eighty channels 902-903 and 927-928. All that's needed is twelve volts and antenna. Want to do an article on it? Mike WA6ILQ -- James Adkins, KB0NHX Vice-President -- Nixa Amateur Radio Club, Inc. (KC0LUN) Southern Missouri Frequency Coordinator - Missouri Repeater Council www.nixahams.net http://www.nixahams.net The Nixa Amateur Radio Club - There is no charge for awesomeness! (Well, only $1.00 per month) -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.77/2520 - Release Date: 11/22/09 14:40:00 -- James Adkins, KB0NHX Vice-President -- Nixa Amateur Radio Club, Inc. (KC0LUN) Southern Missouri Frequency Coordinator - Missouri Repeater Council www.nixahams.net The Nixa Amateur Radio Club - There is no charge for awesomeness! (Well, only $1.00 per month)
[Repeater-Builder] MSF5000 internal 14.4MHz osc.
Hello all, I hope someone can help me out with a couple of msf5000s (UHF r3) I brought these 2nd hand from a govt department, thay are in good order. They are the CXB type. For the repeaters to fire up or lock in, they require a external 14.4Mhz reference input. I sig gen'd a 14.4 MHz signal and sure enough they locked in. I have been looking and reading a bit about these repeaters and discovered that they have a built in 14.4Mhz motorola Osc xtal on the RF board. This saves me building a exernal oven type osc on 14.4Mhz. What i need help with is reversing the external input freg and re enable the on board 14.4Mhz osc xtal? I have searched everywhere for any specific info on this as well for a manaul to no avail. Basically i need to know what resistors etc to replace or remove etc? to fire up this osc xtal ? Can anyone assist me with this ? and many thanks to all. Steve
RE: [Repeater-Builder] R1225 Question
Joe, The control head is needed only to change modes in local control, listen to the incoming audio, and for programming. Since a repeater only needs one channel, just ensure that channel 1 is active. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Joe Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 5:19 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] R1225 Question I have two R1225 repeaters, but only one control head. Does anyone know what mode the radio stays in with the head removed? Both radios are 4 mode radios. I do have the strapping info when taking off the head to make it active. I want to go up to the site with the UHF R1225 and remove the head, but don't know what mode it will be in without the head. All 4 modes are programmed in this particular radio. 73, Joe, K1ike
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola Spectra 900's
I think the Micor rx is a great idea. Unless they came from a 900 micor rptr, they probably were used in paging or linking service, making them the 5 khz variety, The IF xtals could be changed for the 2.5 khz modulation, but no flutter fighter or compandering available like the msf series. And, Mike, yes I have contemplated an article that would detail the procedure. The first unit I did took about a week out of my life and large fistful of hair. The key ingredient to making the spectra play rx on 902 is the software, it has to be hacked up so bad that it will not work on any standard or ham units. The rx front end is the worst and most time consuming part because of it's tuning requirements. And after reading you qrz history, Mike, I plan to reincarnate as a butterfly so I may follow you as you enjoy life. . Bill w4oo . --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Mike Morris WA6ILQ wa6...@... wrote: At 10:22 AM 11/22/09, you wrote: Been there done that seven years ago...it is a liiittle more than the three items listed that need to be done For the NUC RX idea, I have been thinking about doing a rx for that purpose, however, my concern is, will all that work have pay dirt... If some one can show the 902 rx front end is truly usable in high rf environment, I will work with them to...git-er-done... What's wrong with a Moto Aux Receiver (a Micor) on 900? They exist, work REAL well, have independent COR (channel busy) and PL decode lines, etc. The Aux Receiver chassis has the receiver board vertical, the MSF Link Receiver chassis has it horizontal to take up less rack space. I currently have two 900 spectras in a sales catalog bag with wide duplexer and controller to operate on any one of the eighty channels 902-903 and 927-928. All that's needed is twelve volts and antenna. Want to do an article on it? Mike WA6ILQ
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola Spectra 900's
Which brings up another interesting question: We are already using a 75w MSF-5000. Could a Motorola Nucleus II paging transmitter be used and the MSF-5000 receiver? We're using an external controller, S-COM 7330. I don't see why one couldn't just wire up the RX audio, COR and PL to the RX side and the NUC II to the PTT and TX audio lines. Thoughts? On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 9:41 PM, Bill jawjabill...@yahoo.com wrote: I think the Micor rx is a great idea. Unless they came from a 900 micor rptr, they probably were used in paging or linking service, making them the 5 khz variety, The IF xtals could be changed for the 2.5 khz modulation, but no flutter fighter or compandering available like the msf series. And, Mike, yes I have contemplated an article that would detail the procedure. The first unit I did took about a week out of my life and large fistful of hair. The key ingredient to making the spectra play rx on 902 is the software, it has to be hacked up so bad that it will not work on any standard or ham units. The rx front end is the worst and most time consuming part because of it's tuning requirements. And after reading you qrz history, Mike, I plan to reincarnate as a butterfly so I may follow you as you enjoy life. . Bill w4oo . --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comRepeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com, Mike Morris WA6ILQ wa6...@... wrote: At 10:22 AM 11/22/09, you wrote: Been there done that seven years ago...it is a liiittle more than the three items listed that need to be done For the NUC RX idea, I have been thinking about doing a rx for that purpose, however, my concern is, will all that work have pay dirt... If some one can show the 902 rx front end is truly usable in high rf environment, I will work with them to...git-er-done... What's wrong with a Moto Aux Receiver (a Micor) on 900? They exist, work REAL well, have independent COR (channel busy) and PL decode lines, etc. The Aux Receiver chassis has the receiver board vertical, the MSF Link Receiver chassis has it horizontal to take up less rack space. I currently have two 900 spectras in a sales catalog bag with wide duplexer and controller to operate on any one of the eighty channels 902-903 and 927-928. All that's needed is twelve volts and antenna. Want to do an article on it? Mike WA6ILQ -- James Adkins, KB0NHX Vice-President -- Nixa Amateur Radio Club, Inc. (KC0LUN) Southern Missouri Frequency Coordinator - Missouri Repeater Council www.nixahams.net The Nixa Amateur Radio Club - There is no charge for awesomeness! (Well, only $1.00 per month)
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola Spectra 900's
On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 9:41 PM, Bill jawjabill...@yahoo.com wrote: I think the Micor rx is a great idea. Unless they came from a 900 micor rptr, they probably were used in paging or linking service, making them the 5 khz variety, The IF xtals could be changed for the 2.5 khz modulation, but no flutter fighter or compandering available like the msf series. And, Mike, yes I have contemplated an article that would detail the procedure. The first unit I did took about a week out of my life and large fistful of hair. The key ingredient to making the spectra play rx on 902 is the software, it has to be hacked up so bad that it will not work on any standard or ham units. The rx front end is the worst and most time consuming part because of it's tuning requirements. And after reading you qrz history, Mike, I plan to reincarnate as a butterfly so I may follow you as you enjoy life. . Bill w4oo . --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comRepeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com, Mike Morris WA6ILQ wa6...@... wrote: At 10:22 AM 11/22/09, you wrote: Been there done that seven years ago...it is a liiittle more than the three items listed that need to be done For the NUC RX idea, I have been thinking about doing a rx for that purpose, however, my concern is, will all that work have pay dirt... If some one can show the 902 rx front end is truly usable in high rf environment, I will work with them to...git-er-done... What's wrong with a Moto Aux Receiver (a Micor) on 900? They exist, work REAL well, have independent COR (channel busy) and PL decode lines, etc. The Aux Receiver chassis has the receiver board vertical, the MSF Link Receiver chassis has it horizontal to take up less rack space. I currently have two 900 spectras in a sales catalog bag with wide duplexer and controller to operate on any one of the eighty channels 902-903 and 927-928. All that's needed is twelve volts and antenna. Want to do an article on it? Mike WA6ILQ -- James Adkins, KB0NHX Vice-President -- Nixa Amateur Radio Club, Inc. (KC0LUN) Southern Missouri Frequency Coordinator - Missouri Repeater Council www.nixahams.net The Nixa Amateur Radio Club - There is no charge for awesomeness! (Well, only $1.00 per month)
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola Spectra 900's
I'm pretty sure they're wide band, but the Com Spec narrow band kit would probably fix that. 'JK --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, James Adkins adkins.ja...@... wrote: I wonder, are the Micor receivers 2.5 kHz bandwidth or wideband. On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 2:23 PM, Mike Morris WA6ILQ wa6...@...wrote: At 10:22 AM 11/22/09, you wrote: Been there done that seven years ago...it is a liiittle more than the three items listed that need to be done For the NUC RX idea, I have been thinking about doing a rx for that purpose, however, my concern is, will all that work have pay dirt... If some one can show the 902 rx front end is truly usable in high rf environment, I will work with them to...git-er-done... What's wrong with a Moto Aux Receiver (a Micor) on 900? They exist, work REAL well, have independent COR (channel busy) and PL decode lines, etc. The Aux Receiver chassis has the receiver board vertical, the MSF Link Receiver chassis has it horizontal to take up less rack space. I currently have two 900 spectras in a sales catalog bag with wide duplexer and controller to operate on any one of the eighty channels 902-903 and 927-928. All that's needed is twelve volts and antenna. Want to do an article on it? Mike WA6ILQ -- James Adkins, KB0NHX Vice-President -- Nixa Amateur Radio Club, Inc. (KC0LUN) Southern Missouri Frequency Coordinator - Missouri Repeater Council www.nixahams.net The Nixa Amateur Radio Club - There is no charge for awesomeness! (Well, only $1.00 per month)
[Repeater-Builder] Re: MSF5000 internal 14.4MHz osc.
First be sure the xtal is on the board, if not you may search for a spare uni board to transfer the parts. If the cost or time get out of control, consider putting in a rubidium osc that can be programmed to the 14.4 mhz. They are plentiful on ebay and some what reasonably priced. Some operate at 15 to 18 volts. . bill atlanta . --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, sjs1005 sjs1...@... wrote: Hello all, I hope someone can help me out with a couple of msf5000s (UHF r3) I brought these 2nd hand from a govt department, thay are in good order. They are the CXB type. For the repeaters to fire up or lock in, they require a external 14.4Mhz reference input. I sig gen'd a 14.4 MHz signal and sure enough they locked in. I have been looking and reading a bit about these repeaters and discovered that they have a built in 14.4Mhz motorola Osc xtal on the RF board. This saves me building a exernal oven type osc on 14.4Mhz. What i need help with is reversing the external input freg and re enable the on board 14.4Mhz osc xtal? I have searched everywhere for any specific info on this as well for a manaul to no avail. Basically i need to know what resistors etc to replace or remove etc? to fire up this osc xtal ? Can anyone assist me with this ? and many thanks to all. Steve
[Repeater-Builder] Wanted: Custom NWS Weather Alert SAME Audio
I'm building/testing a DIY weather receiver/decoder and could use a couple custom weather alerts to inject into my service monitor. I need the preamble/header code portion of the alert with a specific FIP and Event codes. Anybody aware of a software-based generator? Another option would be someone with a CAT SG-2000 willing to program and record a couple alerts. James K7ICU
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola Spectra 900's
Assuming you want only more power that the nuc offers, I would consider piping the rf out of the msf into the nuc pa leaving the msf rx/tx repeat path intact. It would involve matching the rf power levels out/in and the pa control line to the msf pa control functioning. The reverse is what i plan for a quantar cage to msf vhf 350 watt pa (quantro idea). Could be entertaining. . bill w4oo . --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, James Adkins adkins.ja...@... wrote: Which brings up another interesting question: We are already using a 75w MSF-5000. Could a Motorola Nucleus II paging transmitter be used and the MSF-5000 receiver? We're using an external controller, S-COM 7330. I don't see why one couldn't just wire up the RX audio, COR and PL to the RX side and the NUC II to the PTT and TX audio lines. Thoughts? On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 9:41 PM, Bill jawjabill...@... wrote: I think the Micor rx is a great idea. Unless they came from a 900 micor rptr, they probably were used in paging or linking service, making them the 5 khz variety, The IF xtals could be changed for the 2.5 khz modulation, but no flutter fighter or compandering available like the msf series. And, Mike, yes I have contemplated an article that would detail the procedure. The first unit I did took about a week out of my life and large fistful of hair. The key ingredient to making the spectra play rx on 902 is the software, it has to be hacked up so bad that it will not work on any standard or ham units. The rx front end is the worst and most time consuming part because of it's tuning requirements. And after reading you qrz history, Mike, I plan to reincarnate as a butterfly so I may follow you as you enjoy life. . Bill w4oo . --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comRepeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com, Mike Morris WA6ILQ wa6ilq@ wrote: At 10:22 AM 11/22/09, you wrote: Been there done that seven years ago...it is a liiittle more than the three items listed that need to be done For the NUC RX idea, I have been thinking about doing a rx for that purpose, however, my concern is, will all that work have pay dirt... If some one can show the 902 rx front end is truly usable in high rf environment, I will work with them to...git-er-done... What's wrong with a Moto Aux Receiver (a Micor) on 900? They exist, work REAL well, have independent COR (channel busy) and PL decode lines, etc. The Aux Receiver chassis has the receiver board vertical, the MSF Link Receiver chassis has it horizontal to take up less rack space. I currently have two 900 spectras in a sales catalog bag with wide duplexer and controller to operate on any one of the eighty channels 902-903 and 927-928. All that's needed is twelve volts and antenna. Want to do an article on it? Mike WA6ILQ -- James Adkins, KB0NHX Vice-President -- Nixa Amateur Radio Club, Inc. (KC0LUN) Southern Missouri Frequency Coordinator - Missouri Repeater Council www.nixahams.net The Nixa Amateur Radio Club - There is no charge for awesomeness! (Well, only $1.00 per month)
Re: [Repeater-Builder] R1225 Question
I believe that you can also program accessory connector option lines as channel select inputs. This will let you select channels without a control head. Eric Lemmon wrote: Joe, The control head is needed only to change modes in local control, listen to the incoming audio, and for programming. Since a repeater only needs one channel, just ensure that channel 1 is active. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Joe Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 5:19 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] R1225 Question I have two R1225 repeaters, but only one control head. Does anyone know what mode the radio stays in with the head removed? Both radios are 4 mode radios. I do have the strapping info when taking off the head to make it active. I want to go up to the site with the UHF R1225 and remove the head, but don't know what mode it will be in without the head. All 4 modes are programmed in this particular radio. 73, Joe, K1ike __._, -- mailto:o...@ozindfw.net Oz POB 93167 Southlake, TX 76092 (Near DFW Airport)
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola Spectra 900's
Hi Bill, I'm quite curious as to what you ran into when you attempted this. I have one working, and as far as the number of steps taken to make it operable on 902, it was pretty simple. The only thing I left out in my short list was bringing COR out. Did I miss something, or did I just get lucky? As to it's suitability for high RF environments, probably no more or no less than any other mobile grade receiver. I wouldn't put one on a hilltop without good external filtering - especially in the 900 band. They're not an MSF, but then, that's not the point. They're cheap, they're readily available, and they can be made to work, probably better than a Maxtrac. I've also converted 800 radios to receive on the input side of the 800 band (806-828) with the exact same procedure - hack software, tune VCO lower, retune filter. There seems to be enough interest to warrant writing this up, so I'll get going on that. Mel - WA6JBD Been there done that seven years ago...it is a liiittle more than the three items listed that need to be done For the NUC RX idea, I have been thinking about doing a rx for that purpose, however, my concern is, will all that work have pay dirt... If some one can show the 902 rx front end is truly usable in high rf environment, I will work with them to...git-er-done... I currently have two 900 spectras in a sales catalog bag with wide duplexer and controller to operate on any one of the eighty channels 902-903 and 927-928. All that's needed is twelve volts and antenna. . Bill w4oo jawjabill-- bellsouth- net
[Repeater-Builder] Quantar Vs Quantro
Anyone in the group able to explain the difference between a Motorola Quantar VS Quantro ? Unit in question is a 100 watt UHF repeater. Thanks Chris GMRS Inc.
