[Repeater-Builder] Slightly

2010-04-11 Thread Bill Isom
I have accomplished this in the past by using a simple summing resistor array 
as a mixer.  This is then fed into a amplified speaker to compensate for the 
losses and provide a master control.

Good Luck
Bill N4XIR


  

[Repeater-Builder] MSF5000 CXB wont program

2010-04-11 Thread sjs1005
Hello all,

I have a problem. I have 2 MSF5000's models X7CXB7106AT.

I have tried programming them via;

1. A motorola rib box via the mike socket and the 40 pin socket.
2. A ribless cable via the mike socket.
3. I have used various computers, 386, 486 pentium 1 etc etc


All to no avail. All i get is the message: SSCB no responding or Station not 
responding. I have tried normal codeplug read as well as the F5 station faild 
read, to no avail.

These are great repeaters and my question to all would be is there
any jumper or switch that needs to be in place to prg these ?

I am totally stumped trying to get these programmed ??

Any help / suggestions would be greatly appreciated.


Regards

Steven.




Re: [Repeater-Builder] Slightly OT: How are folks taking audio from multiple ...

2010-04-11 Thread Chuck Kelsey
I've done the same thing. In my instance, I used a communications speaker with 
my own amplifier tucked inside.

Chuck
WB2EDV
  - Original Message - 
  From: william...@aol.com 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 10:32 PM
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Slightly OT: How are folks taking audio from 
multiple ...





  I use a Motorola amplified speaker and an audio combiner circuit.  Since some 
of the newer radios don't like to have either of their speaker leads grounded I 
had to design a circuit that not only combined the audio but also isolated the 
speaker leads from ground.  

  What I came up with was to use audio isolation transformers for each radio.  
A shielded audio cable goes from the speaker jack on the radio to each 
isolation transformer.  Each transformer has an 8 ohm 1 watt resistor in 
parallel with the primary.  This provides an 8 ohm load for each radio.  These 
transformers are also available at Radio Shack.  The secondary of each 
transformer has one lead grounded and the other lead goes to a resistor.  Each 
transformers secondary lead with the resistor is tied together and feed the 
input of the Motorola amplified speaker.  This is a simple resistive mixing 
network that isolates each radio not only from each other but from ground as 
well.  Since this is a passive circuit there is some loss but the amplified 
Motorola speaker more than makes up for it. 

  In actual use the volume level on each radio is just a little less than if 
you were using the internal speaker.  And turning up the audio about 3/4 of the 
way produces enough audio to drive you out of the car.  The disadvantage is as 
noted that all the audio comes from the same place and it is necessary from 
time to time to look at the radios to see which one is receiving.  However if 
each radios volume is set at slightly different levels it is easy to determine 
which one is active.

  This has also been tried with the amplified Radio Shack speaker with almost 
the same results.  It is pretty hard to beat the amplified Motorola speakers 
for loudness and clarity.  

  Bill - WA0CBW


  In a message dated 4/10/2010 8:32:04 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
mike.l...@gmail.com writes:


Hello Folks,

I am wondering what people are doing these days with multiple two-way 
radios and scanners in their vehicle and then outputting it to one speaker in 
the vehicle? How are they isolating each radio?

Thanks,
Mike





Re: [Repeater-Builder] Had at the hamfest

2010-04-11 Thread Chuck Kelsey
You've learned a lesson to do a little homework first. We've pretty much all 
had to go through the same experience at one point or another. You won't do 
it again. And you may have fallen victim to some seller who didn't know what 
he really had. Put it aside for the few useful parts it has and get another, 
correct, unit.

Chuck
WB2EDV



- Original Message - 
From: AdamW espresso_dop...@yahoo.com
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 4:37 PM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Had at the hamfest


 Bought a Mastr Executive II unit today with the idea of making it into a 
 UHF repeater.  The seller indicated it was a 70 watt model, which would 
 have been perfect.  Once I got it home and opened it up, started looking 
 at board part numbers and the Combination Number, it turns out I have one 
 of the vehicular repeaters with a 300mw RF deck!  ARGH!

 So, can I convert the RF deck to a higher wattage by adding the missing 
 board in the PA (and where can I get one, and what would it cost?), or 
 simply replacing the whole RF deck with one for UHF and higher power (same 
 questions on this solution).  Lastly, I could sell the radio to someone on 
 here who might be able to build something out of it using other parts or 
 parts radios they have around.

 Any assistance in this (and hopefully in the rest of a repeater conversion 
 and parts seeking, like a control head perhaps) is gratefully accepted!

 


Re: [Repeater-Builder] Slightly OT: How are folks taking audio from multiple mobile radios and outputting them to one speaker?

2010-04-11 Thread Kris Kirby
On Sat, 10 Apr 2010, Will Gwin wrote:
 Personally I'd rather have each radio going out its own speaker.  It 
 works alot better when the speakers are mounted in different locations 
 in the vehicle so you can tell which radio it's coming from without 
 looking at it.
 
 Other guys I know that run multiple radios usually stick with really 
 small speakers that they can stick right next to each other.  Though I 
 suppose you could spend a couple bucks and try some diodes?

Another approach is to build or use an aircraft audio panel, which gives 
you two or three audio outputs. This is not entirely unlike the Motorola 
consoles that have select and un-select audio channels. Check out Bruce 
Lane's installation: (Controlling it all)

http://www.bluefeathertech.com/kc7gr/thevan.html

--
Kris Kirby, KE4AHR
Disinformation Analyst


Re: [Repeater-Builder] Slightly OT: How are folks taking audio from multiple mobile radios and outputting them to one speaker?

2010-04-11 Thread Larry Horlick
Look at the gear at:

www.ncsradio.com

lh

On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 9:31 PM, Mike Lyon mike.l...@gmail.com wrote:



 Hello Folks,

 I am wondering what people are doing these days with multiple two-way
 radios and scanners in their vehicle and then outputting it to one speaker
 in the vehicle? How are they isolating each radio?

 Thanks,
 Mike

  



Re: [Repeater-Builder] Slightly OT: How are folks taking audio from multiple mobile radios and outputting them to one speaker?

2010-04-11 Thread James Cicirello
Mike,
If you decide to combine, make sure you look at the speaker circuit on each
radio.The Spectra for example will smoke if you take it to ground. You would
want to use a 1: 1: Transformer to isolate it unless you have a good
combiner circuit.After asking the same questions you are asking, I decided
on three speakers mounted on the side of the center console. Two years ago
next month I was at Dayton and had a vendor who was selling speakers put
audio into different size speakers. I then took the three SMALLEST I thought
I could like with. Much better than the built in speakers.
Goood Luck.JIM

-- 
Jim Cicirello
181 Stevens Street
Wellsville, N.Y. 14895
(585)593-4655


[Repeater-Builder] Original Syntor

2010-04-11 Thread terry_wx3m
Can anyone burn me a channel prom (one frequency) for the original Syntor? I 
would like to use this for a remote receiver. Thanks, Terry
wx3m.te...@gmail.com



RE: [Repeater-Builder] Original Syntor

2010-04-11 Thread Eric Lemmon
Terry,

I have had great Syntor service from Bruce Lane, here:
http://www.bluefeathertech.com/

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
 

-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of terry_wx3m
Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2010 8:34 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Original Syntor

  

Can anyone burn me a channel prom (one frequency) for the original Syntor? I
would like to use this for a remote receiver. Thanks, Terry



[Repeater-Builder] Xtals for Mastr ExecII

2010-04-11 Thread John
Well it looks like I need a new tx xtal for my UHF ExecII repeater. The 
current xtal has suddenly jumped about 50KHz high on UHF
What are the current prefered vendors? I know about International, any 
other reliable ones?

John

-- 
John Mc Hugh, K4AG
Coordinator for Amateur Radio  
National Hurricane Center, WX4NHC
Home page:- http://www.wx4nhc.org




RE: [Repeater-Builder] Original Syntor

2010-04-11 Thread Mark
Terry,

He does a marvelous job on Spectras as well...

Another source is Andy Brinkley - he did my EPROMS (freq and tone) for the
original series Syntor I converted to 2m.
http://www.brinkleyelectronics.com/prog/mot/syn/sab/sab.htm 

Mark - N9WYS

-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com  On Behalf Of Eric Lemmon

Terry,

I have had great Syntor service from Bruce Lane, here:
http://www.bluefeathertech.com/

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
 

-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com  On Behalf Of terry_wx3m

Can anyone burn me a channel prom (one frequency) for the original Syntor? I
would like to use this for a remote receiver. Thanks, Terry




Re: [Repeater-Builder] Original Syntor

2010-04-11 Thread Al

  I agree with Mark. Andy even sells the eprom conversion so you can do your 
own programming.



  Terry,

  He does a marvelous job on Spectras as well...

  Another source is Andy Brinkley - he did my EPROMS (freq and tone) for the
  original series Syntor I converted to 2m.
  http://www.brinkleyelectronics.com/prog/mot/syn/sab/sab.htm 

  Mark - N9WYS

  -Original Message-
  From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of Eric Lemmon

  Terry,

  I have had great Syntor service from Bruce Lane, here:
  http://www.bluefeathertech.com/

  73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY


  -Original Message-
  From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of terry_wx3m

  Can anyone burn me a channel prom (one frequency) for the original Syntor? I
  would like to use this for a remote receiver. Thanks, Terry



  

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Xtals for Mastr ExecII

2010-04-11 Thread Lee Pennington
Crystek, And Jans, Both in Fort Myers, Fl..73

On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 3:01 PM, John k...@bellsouth.net wrote:



 Well it looks like I need a new tx xtal for my UHF ExecII repeater. The
 current xtal has suddenly jumped about 50KHz high on UHF
 What are the current prefered vendors? I know about International, any
 other reliable ones?

 John

 --
 John Mc Hugh, K4AG
 Coordinator for Amateur Radio
 National Hurricane Center, WX4NHC
 Home page:- http://www.wx4nhc.org

  




-- 
Always drink upstream from the herd.


Re: [Repeater-Builder] Xtals for Mastr ExecII

2010-04-11 Thread DCFluX
I would blame the tempreture compensation line that is going into the ICOM
before the crystals.

Please refer to the schematic on page 7 of:
http://www.repeater-builder.com/ge/lbi-library/lbi-30060d.pdf

I believe this line is typically in the 4 to 5v range

On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 1:57 PM, Lee Pennington
localjunkpedd...@gmail.comwrote:



 Crystek, And Jans, Both in Fort Myers, Fl..73


 On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 3:01 PM, John k...@bellsouth.net wrote:



 Well it looks like I need a new tx xtal for my UHF ExecII repeater. The
 current xtal has suddenly jumped about 50KHz high on UHF
 What are the current prefered vendors? I know about International, any
 other reliable ones?

 John

 --
 John Mc Hugh, K4AG
 Coordinator for Amateur Radio
 National Hurricane Center, WX4NHC
 Home page:- http://www.wx4nhc.org




 --
 Always drink upstream from the herd.


 


Re: [Repeater-Builder] Xtals for Mastr ExecII

2010-04-11 Thread Kris Kirby
On Sun, 11 Apr 2010, Lee Pennington wrote:
 Crystek, And Jans, Both in Fort Myers, Fl..73

Last crystal order I put in, I mailed the ICOMs to International. I 
think the ICOMs were close enough to frequency that I didn't have to 
touch them. 

The last time I called JAN, I didn't get a call back, or a response to 
my email. Has anyone else had more recent contact with them than three 
months ago?

--
Kris Kirby, KE4AHR
Disinformation Analyst


Re: [Repeater-Builder] Xtals for Mastr ExecII

2010-04-11 Thread no6b
At 4/11/2010 12:01, you wrote:
Well it looks like I need a new tx xtal for my UHF ExecII repeater. The
current xtal has suddenly jumped about 50KHz high on UHF
What are the current prefered vendors? I know about International, any
other reliable ones?

Did this happen while in service,  if so have you opened up the radio 
yet?  I recently had a VHF MVP's TX suddenly jump up 35 kHz.  Turned out 
the xtal module connector was dirty.  At the same time the RX died; that 
was due to a dirty connector on the IF/detector board, resulting in 
intermittent 10 V RX OSC voltage.

Connectors are becoming quite the weak link in this radio series.  Thank 
goodness for DeOxIt.

Bob NO6B



[Repeater-Builder] Repeaters and equipment for sale

2010-04-11 Thread microwavetechnology
All,

We have just received 10 Micor VHF repeaters on 151.xxx as well as lots of 
spare parts.

Also available are duplexers (Sinclair 201G) and antennas (BA1010 and Telewave 
150F3, new and used) and various pieces of new and used 1/2 and 7/8 Heliax and 
boxes of NOS connectors.

We are still unloading the trailer to get the full inventory so please e-mail 
if you have a specific need and we will try to list them.

We will be at the Idaho State Convention in Boise in two weeks and  and EMCOMM 
in Reno the week after so if anyone has interest and will be at either event 
please let us know so we can load it up for you.

Thanks,

BJ





Re: [Repeater-Builder] Xtals for Mastr ExecII

2010-04-11 Thread John

DCFluX wrote:




I would blame the tempreture compensation line that is going into the 
ICOM before the crystals.


Please refer to the schematic on page 7 of:
http://www.repeater-builder.com/ge/lbi-library/lbi-30060d.pdf

I believe this line is typically in the 4 to 5v range



The TC line is at 4volts. When I short it to ground I can get the tx 
back on freq but then the rx is off freq.
I cleaned the contacts and even put the xtal into another ICOM, same 
story. So I will try to pad the capacitor with a few pf


John


[Repeater-Builder] Mot. Micor Station Control Module TLN4635B

2010-04-11 Thread kh6jkg

Thanks for your section in the Motorola Micor, Modification of the older 
Station Control Module TLN4635B,
 By Kevin Custer W3KKC.

Any chance there is a schematic for the Station Control Module TLN4635B ?

Thanks for all the information on all the repeaters.

73's,   JimKh6jkg.



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[Repeater-Builder] crimping assistance please

2010-04-11 Thread hitekgearhead
I know this has been thrown around a bit before but I could use a little 
assistance.

I just purchased a crimper and a couple sets of dies. I bought some cheap BNC 
and TNC connectors to practice with along with some RG-58A/U cable.

I bought 3 different sets of dies. One of which is for RG-8 size connectors so 
I am not really concerned with that yet. The other two dies have hex crimp 
sizes of .324, .255, .215, .100, .068 and .215, .184, .068, .042 Obviously 
these two dies duplicate the .215 and .068 sizes.


Basically I am not sure what size hex to use for the above stated RG-58A/U and 
BNC and TNC connectors.


Also, I have a question regarding stripping the cable. I am not going to be 
doing high volumes of cables, but probably will be doing them on different size 
of coax. Would you recommend a stripper or will a razor knife suffice.

Lastly, and relating to the coax strippers: Don't different connectors, even on 
the same type/size of coax, need different stripping lengths? This would 
probably translate into quite a few different strippers for different cables 
and connectors, no?

Thanks
Albert