Re: [Repeater-Builder] What did I steal off eBay. Unknown wacom bandpass

2010-04-15 Thread Chuck Kelsey
No. A 50 MHz one would be around 5 feet tall.

Chuck
WB2EDV



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  It almost looks like low band. 50mhz



  Dirk
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  I got a real good deal on this unit. Uhf or VHF I can use it. I think its VHF 
but maybe someone can shed light. It has no markings at all... 25 high 8 
across, coupling loop 1.5 long .75 wide. Any ideas. Pic attached 





  


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RE: [Repeater-Builder] What did I steal off eBay. Unknown wacom bandpass

2010-04-15 Thread Ross Johnson
That’s great. Just what I wanted to hear J Thank you for the info.
 
73’s Ross KC7RJK
 
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bandpass
 
  
  
I have several of these cavities, they are Wacom VHF Band Pass filters, and 
they should tune fine in the 144-148 MHz range.
 
 
 
 
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Subject: [Repeater-Builder] What did I steal off eBay. Unknown wacom bandpass
 
  
I got a real good deal on this unit. Uhf or VHF I can use it. I think its VHF 
but maybe someone can shed light. It has no markings at all... 25 high 8 
across, coupling loop 1.5 long .75 wide. Any ideas. Pic attached 



[Repeater-Builder] Re: Kenwood Service Manuals (TOS/COS question)

2010-04-15 Thread skipp025


No problem trying to help you out...  And now a 50 cent plug. 

As a fully Authorized Kenwood Dealer AND Service Station (for 
repairs) and I should be able to provide access to available 
Service Manuals. 

Many of the Service Manuals for the older radios are/were only 
available in printed form (versus an available PDF version more 
easily sent by Email attachment).  I probably have a shop copy 
for your radio and I could also check on an available printed 
version to sell if you really wanted one.  I'd be happy to offer 
that service. 

But there are many similar sounding (written) model numbers for 
radios that are quite different from each other so you/I have to 
do the proper homework to ensure you end up with the proper 
manual.  A Kenwood tk-860 is not the same radio as a tk-860g is 
not the exact same radio as a tk-860H. I hope you get the idea 
that I'd like to avoid ordering the wrong manual(s) where 
possible. 

One last item... I'm up to my arse in California Alligators 
right now... meaning (regardless of the posts you see here) my 
time is almost 100% on some very special high-level projects 
with really short time-to-complete deadlines.  So I haven't been 
as accessible or replying to Emails and phone calls as I would 
like.  So if you need to reach me, please be patient and pestering 
with Email is probably the  best way. But I/we will be happy to 
try and help you as our available time allows. I guess I/we should 
be happy to report things are very busy right now. 

Thanks much, 

Resume ALL-SKATE, All skate slow and safe.
:-) 

cheers, 
skipp 

skipp025 at yahoo.com 
 J C jcar...@... wrote:
 Thanks Skipp!
 
 I will investigate further. The one thing I don't have for this radio is a 
 service manual. I will try to scrounge one up.
 
 Thanks again!
 
 --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, skipp025 skipp025@ wrote:
 
  
  
  I replied to Jordan direct to say that I'll post some of the 
  answers over here for all to see. 
  
  First off, deal with the tk-860H, which is different from a 
  tk-860g... and I believe the H is the higher power version 
  of the plain tk-860. 
  
  The labels on the KCT-19 pins/wires will change but the PTT and 
  COR wires are KCT-19 pin 8 and 11 or 13.  The function of the radio 
  cor out logic being tied to CTCSS and/or Carrier Squelch is 
  dependent on the specific radio.  
  
  Some of the earlier 1995 era mobiles required a few internal 
  hardware changes to bring out a Tone Detected COR function 
  from the KTC-19 connector. Was not a problem in most all later 
  model radios... So I suspect you'll have to do a bit of minor 
  hardware modifications to change the COR output line from Carrier 
  Squelch to CTCSS activation. 
  
  One application note I have here regarding pin 13 operation for 
  Radio COR Output: Solder the two anodes of D205 together to route the audio 
  mute signal out to the KCT-19 cable. Refer to page 55 of the Kenwood manual 
  for parts location. I suspect the pin 13 cor 
  output label is wrong and you should investigate using pin 11 as
  the cor output as indicated on most other kenwood radio model. 
  
  The TK-860H is an older radio and it's connection information 
  to external devices (the outside world) is a bit vague. You'd 
  probably need a Service Manual for that specific radio model to 
  sort out the proper CTCSS routed to cor output logic/wire 
  configuration. 
  
  The TK-981 follows the convention of newer mobiles so its 
  COR should be tied to CTCSS. Otherwise post a want or email 
  me direct again. 
  
  cheers, 
  skipp 
  
  ps:  I have a ton of message from group members I'll try to respond 
  back to asap... things have been nuts as of late, which I guess is 
  a good thing. 
  
   J C jcarter@ wrote:
  
   I am looking to a pull tone-operated squelch logic on a TK-860H and a 
   TK-981. The KCT-19, as many know only outputs carrier logic regardless of 
   PL/DPL status. Has anybody got notes somewhere on where the best point to 
   pull logic out for active PL? 
   
   
   Thanks,
   
   Jordan
  
 





[Repeater-Builder] Hookup sheet M38/TKR850-1

2010-04-15 Thread Dave Clausen
Anyone have a Zetron 38 to Kenwood TKR850-1 hookup sheet or instructions?  I 
have it going but want to confirm I have the thing setup right.

TIA

Dave
NN4TT


  

[Repeater-Builder] Motorola R-1013A sinad meter manual posted to the files section

2010-04-15 Thread crabtreejr
I have just posted a copy of this manual to the files section.   

Given that the file space at this group is limited, I will leave the manual 
here for a few days and then remove it.  There is a request for it on the 
Repeater Builder web site, but I was unable to get any response from the folks 
there.  Hopefully one of them will grab it.

HTH and 73

John  KC0G 



[Repeater-Builder] Re: Trojan Horse

2010-04-15 Thread clanrat604
The site is now blacklisted with Websense (Malicious Website) at my work. I 
have asked for an exception but they're notoriously stingy with those.



[Repeater-Builder] Duplexer parts

2010-04-15 Thread Gary Hoff
I have an old Phelps Dodge VHF Duplexer that has a
frozen air variable.  The Duplexer is a part# 499-509 and
covers 144-174.  The air variable in question is stamped
167-202 and is split stator about 1 3/8 square.  Anybody
know where I might find a suitable replacement, I haven't
had any luck where I've been looking.
Gary K7NEY


Re: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexer parts

2010-04-15 Thread DCFluX
http://www.surplussales.com/Variables/ButterflyCapacitors/ButCap1.html

(CAV) 167-205-71  sounds close to it.


On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 11:59 AM, Gary Hoff k7ney...@q.com wrote:
 I have an old Phelps Dodge VHF Duplexer that has a
 frozen air variable.  The Duplexer is a part# 499-509 and
 covers 144-174.  The air variable in question is stamped
 167-202 and is split stator about 1 3/8 square.  Anybody
 know where I might find a suitable replacement, I haven't
 had any luck where I've been looking.
 Gary K7NEY


 



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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexer parts

2010-04-15 Thread Gary Hoff

I already found that one, thanks anyway, the 167-205 is close but not enough
plates, mine has 6 rotor and 6 stator.  Physical size is right though, 
maybe this

cap was made by Johnson also since the numbers are close.
Gary

On 4/15/2010 1:59 PM, DCFluX wrote:


http://www.surplussales.com/Variables/ButterflyCapacitors/ButCap1.html 
http://www.surplussales.com/Variables/ButterflyCapacitors/ButCap1.html


(CAV) 167-205-71 sounds close to it.

On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 11:59 AM, Gary Hoff k7ney...@q.com 
mailto:k7ney123%40q.com wrote:

 I have an old Phelps Dodge VHF Duplexer that has a
 frozen air variable.  The Duplexer is a part# 499-509 and
 covers 144-174.  The air variable in question is stamped
 167-202 and is split stator about 1 3/8 square.  Anybody
 know where I might find a suitable replacement, I haven't
 had any luck where I've been looking.
 Gary K7NEY


 



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[Repeater-Builder] Wanted: G.E. VHF HB UHS preamp

2010-04-15 Thread no6b
Bought one several years ago from Kevin @ the Repeater-Builder booth in 
Dayton.  Works very well (~0.13 µV for 12 dB SINAD on the MVP it's in), but 
now I need another one.  Got another one, Kevin?  If not, does anyone else?

BTW, I did the antenna-load sensitivity substitution test last night on 2 
MVPs, one with  one without the preamp.  The MVP with no preamp showed ~5 
dB SINAD degradation between the antenna  load.  With that much noise 
coming down the antenna, reducing the noise figure of the RX doesn't help 
much, maybe a dB or two.  But once you throw in the duplexer loss, which in 
this case is 2.1 dB, the antenna noise is reduced to only 3 dB over the 
load.  Now the preamp improves actual sensitivity by 3 dB, which is just 
enough to make it worthwhile to use IMO.  In addition, this will be for a 
portapeater that will be deployed in a rural area so the antenna noise will 
probably be lower.

Bob NO6B 



[Repeater-Builder] Re: Duplexer parts

2010-04-15 Thread ac6vj


Gary,

Try Viking Technologies LTD. at www.cardwellcondenser.com
they have a very large selection of Johnson, series 167 capacitors and will be 
able to give you the exact specifications on the broken one that you have.

Gregory AC6VJ


--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Gary Hoff k7ney...@... wrote:

 I already found that one, thanks anyway, the 167-205 is close but not enough
 plates, mine has 6 rotor and 6 stator.  Physical size is right though, 
 maybe this
 cap was made by Johnson also since the numbers are close.
 Gary
 
 On 4/15/2010 1:59 PM, DCFluX wrote:
 
  http://www.surplussales.com/Variables/ButterflyCapacitors/ButCap1.html 
  http://www.surplussales.com/Variables/ButterflyCapacitors/ButCap1.html
 
  (CAV) 167-205-71 sounds close to it.
 
  On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 11:59 AM, Gary Hoff k7ney...@... 
  mailto:k7ney123%40q.com wrote:
   I have an old Phelps Dodge VHF Duplexer that has a
   frozen air variable.  The Duplexer is a part# 499-509 and
   covers 144-174.  The air variable in question is stamped
   167-202 and is split stator about 1 3/8 square.  Anybody
   know where I might find a suitable replacement, I haven't
   had any luck where I've been looking.
   Gary K7NEY
  
  
   
  
  
  
   Yahoo! Groups Links
  
  
  
  
 
 





[Repeater-Builder] STX Model Configurations / Nomenclature

2010-04-15 Thread La Rue Communications
Not sure if Nomencature is strictly GE terminology, but I used it all the time 
now when dealing with model number breakdowns.

I have a room full of assorted Motorlola STX portables. I am trying to make 
sense of these sticks and want to get them in the right spot in our shop. In 
other words I want to separate them by bandwidth, and capabilities. I've tried 
several forums, including BatBoard, in vain. Google searches turn up Batteries 
for this thing, but nothing specific.

Can anyone out there help me out, or point me in the right direction please?

Thanks!

John Hymes
La Rue Communications
10 S. Aurora Street
Stockton, CA 95202

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Duplexer parts (capacitor)

2010-04-15 Thread skipp025
Email me direct a few very well lighted pictures of the 
capacitor and put something near it as a size reference 
(like a dime or a quarter [two-bits]).  I've heard a story 
that hams have been known to have parts like these in their 
junk box (aka spare parts bin). 

skipp 

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Gary Hoff k7ney...@... wrote:

 I have an old Phelps Dodge VHF Duplexer that has a
 frozen air variable.  The Duplexer is a part# 499-509 and
 covers 144-174.  The air variable in question is stamped
 167-202 and is split stator about 1 3/8 square.  Anybody
 know where I might find a suitable replacement, I haven't
 had any luck where I've been looking.
 Gary K7NEY





RE: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola R-1013A sinad meter manual posted to the files section

2010-04-15 Thread Eric Lemmon
John,

I looked for the file in the Repeater-Builder Group files section, but
couldn't find it.  What folder is it in?

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
 

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Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 3:53 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola R-1013A sinad meter manual posted to
the files section

  

I have just posted a copy of this manual to the files section. 

Given that the file space at this group is limited, I will leave the manual
here for a few days and then remove it. There is a request for it on the
Repeater Builder web site, but I was unable to get any response from the
folks there. Hopefully one of them will grab it.

HTH and 73

John KC0G



Re: [Repeater-Builder] Cooling Fans, which brand?

2010-04-15 Thread no6b
At 4/12/2010 22:43, you wrote:
Hello to group,
Anyone have a brand they recomend for a no noise, reliable fan.
I didnt know whether to go with brushless,ball bearing,AC, or DC etc. Also 
should the power leads be sheilded and have a separate supply if DC.. Any 
filters recomended also..

I prefer AC fans because they generate less noise.  I do have some 12 V CPU 
fans on the backs of a couple of MVPs in service, but have had problems 
with low levels of fan noise on some of them.  If you have a choice, AC 
fans are easier to work with IMO.

Bob NO6B



Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola R-1013A sinad meter manual posted to the files section

2010-04-15 Thread Mike Morris WA6ILQ
At 03:53 PM 04/14/10, you wrote:
I have just posted a copy of this manual to the files section.

Given that the file space at this group is limited, I will leave the 
manual here for a few days and then remove it.  There is a request 
for it on the Repeater Builder web site, but I was unable to get any 
response from the folks there.  Hopefully one of them will grab it.

HTH and 73

John  KC0G

It's been up on the Motorola page since mid-March.
I added it to the test equipment page just recently.

Mike WA6ILQ