[Repeater-Builder] CB operators, then and now
Way off topic. One comment then everyone please drop this thread?!?! In the '70's, you could ask for A "Radio Check" any time, on any channel, and someone would come back with their location, (10-20), signal strength, etc., . But that doesn't happen these days! I got back into radio for the first time in years... After listening through the cussing, etc., I asked for A simple radio check..Hey, first time I had this rig on the air at all...Can anyone tell me if I am getting out? I just about had to Cuss someone out to even respond, and all I got was, YeahI can hear you.Nothing about their "20", no idea if they were base or mobile, Nothing! A few weeks ago, I hooked that $35 CB radio into my 10 meter Inverted Vee antenna. That antenna was not even right for 10 meters, much less 11 meters (CB). I just was curious to see if it would even RX. It did. The first thing I heard on CB 19 was "Road Rage?". 2 guys cussing at each other on the air saying stuff like"Well, follow me into this parking lot and we will have A fun time finding out who is right about that, etc, etc.." You had to have been there...I knew that cheap CB radio would not like it if I keyed the mic. I had NEVER checked SWR on that antenna...Like I really cared...The CB was about $35 NEW..and I can not stand what I hear on the CB bands anyway, so I am worried about the cost Again, you had to have been there. I keyed the CB Mic and broadcasted on CB (Legal so far as I know?)...I said this is (HAM Call Sign, Phonetically), Federally Licensed Radio OperatorThat is why I went to the HAM bands..You will NEVER hear HAMS picking A fight on those bands(HAM Call SignCLEAR!) CB Channel 19 was DEAD Quiet for over 5 minutes!! That was one you just had to be there to get it the way I mean it! Have you EVER heard CB 19 quiet for 5+ Minutes? Bruce in Texas KE5TPN On Mon, 23 Feb 2009, Don Kupferschmidt wrote: > Also reminds me of when I was *DUMB & STUPID* in my earlier years of > CB (before I got my ham license), and I asked on air for a radio > check! We still hear those today: "Am I making it in?" -- Kris Kirby, KE4AHR Disinformation Analyst
[Repeater-Builder] W4ZT Tony King SK
>From Bruce in Texas, KE5TPN Never knew this person but 73 and 88 to all who were close to him. NEVER DISRESCECT THE SILENT KEY! RPI my friend, RPI. May the "Skip" be with you always! Bruce Bagwell in Texas KE5TPN Tony passed away this afternoon at 2:40 after a long battle with cancer. He will be missed by me and all the other friends he made over the years. John, KC4YI
[Repeater-Builder] foreign language translation, on-line and free (babelfish)
Hey Skipp,
I always value your advise but had to call you on this one.
It is the Four-Part Trilogy (Yes, it is A COMEDY for sure!)
Called, "The Hitchhikers Guide to the GALAXY"
BTW, Don't forget your TOWEL!
73
Bruce
KE5TPN
-
In case you didn't know... there is a free on line language
translation service, which you can use with text or a web page
url.
Long before Google was www.altavista.com aka altavista.digital.com
... once my favorite search engines. But Altavista lost its mind
in the 90's going crazy with pop-up ads, which really pi$$ed a lot
of us off. I mean they were really, really bad about pop-up ads.
After thousands of us wrote flaming email comments and jumped ship
they finally figured it out and reversed direction dropping the
really excessive pop-up ads. I even received an apology Email from
Altavista with a beg to try the service again (now without the
pop-up window hell).
Moving along...
A redeeming service within altavista:
Inside Altavista is the Babelfish* Translation function, which is
killer for converting basic text and web pages for the more common
(typical) languages.
All I can tell you is to give it a try...
Here's Altavista's main page:
http://www.altavista.com/
Here's the Babel fish translation page:
http://babelfish.yahoo.com/
(now part of the Yahoo Group of Services... Babelfish.com still
seems to function pretty well.
Example one... A web page in Spanish:
http://www.repetidor.com/notec.html
Now copy and paste the above web page url into the babelfish
Translate a web page line and select your desired from and to
language choices... hit the translate button. Now sit back
and sip your java (or red wine, no whites or zins) while the
service converts the original web page to your language of
choice.
Not bad... eh ("eh" added for you Canadians and UP readers)
enjoy,
s.
*Noted. Some of you are fans of or have read "The Hitch-hikers
Guide to the Universe.
[Repeater-Builder] test equipment theft
Eric, I have been A victim of theft myself and do not like it. I feel all such people, when caught, should be shot on sight. Then Strung up on the Rack. Then Hung. Then strapped into the Electric Chair. Then face A firing Squad, again. And finally, if there is anything left, force then to physically hold the antenna of an operating 100KW FM Broadcast Station! It is my understanding, but others please correct me if I'm wrong, Stealing from or otherwise interfering with the operation of A Federally (FCC) Licensed Radio Station, be it A big TV station or A little Amateur Operator, under the LAW, is basically the same thing? Sure, the Dollar amount will probably be different. However both Stations hold A Federal License to operate, Right? Does this not make it A FEDERAL OFFENSE? I am just asking the Group for A little Heads-Up here, not wanting to start another crazy thread. However, It that was me and I ever discovered the identity of this low-life, Piece of excrement, Should it then ever impact the rotating atmosphere oscillator, I would fully prosecute to what ever extent the LAW would allow, including FEDERAL charges! Just my little Humble Opinion.... Bruce Bagwell KE5TPN If You Can Read This, Thank A Teacher. If You Are Reading This in ENGLISH, Thank A Veteran or Current Soldier! Support Our Troops! For Without Them, We Have No Support at All! To all list members - Please keep a close eye out for the following items which were stolen from my work vehicle this past Wednesday evening 12/3/08 in central NJ: Motorola R2670A service monitor, SN496KWN0084 Bird 43 wattmeter in case with 5 900MHz range slugs Bird 43 wattmeter # 2 in case with 5 VHF & UHF range slugs Dell laptop computer with Sprint wireless card, USB drives, etc, all inside a Targus leather laptop case Old (otherwise worthless) Epson 386 laptop loaded with RSS software, and a Motorola RIB with cables, all inside a Targus canvas laptop case DeWalt cordless drill Craftsman 3/8 power drill Craftsman 200pc socket set Misc bit and driver sets And a few other Sony DSC-S750 digital camera in Sony soft case Magellan Roadmate 1412 GPS receiver with bracket/cord Plus a few other items. A $500 reward is being offered for any information which leads to an arrest of the responsible perpetrator(s). There were a few witnesses to the crime, but they didn't think anything of it at the time. Amazing! What a hell of a way to start the Christmas holiday! Thanks for your attention. 73 Eric KE2D 609-713-3742
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Astron P/S question
OR, Hi, Hi! You could just do what someone did to the Astron RM-50 I recently rebuild with the help of these guys on the R-P website. What someone did was to, wire and solder A jumper across the A/C HOT input. Then to avoid any shutting down, they disconnected the +12 wire to the Crowbar SCR and tie it across the Neg (GND) wire. Basically, if and when the Crowbar ever tripped, it would never short anything. Anode and Cathode were both tied top GND. Problem solved, Hi, Hi! This Power Supply sure was A mess after A direct Lightning hit to the 100' plus tower. Most of the current went down the tower or Guy wires, but enough went through the not turned-on Astron. No doubt A mess but at least the Power X-Former was still OK. Speaking of Lightning, some head into this area right now. Gotta go! All comments here were meant as SARCASM! Bruce Bagwell KE5TPN The United States will be "The Land Of The Free" only so long as it is "The Home Of The Brave!" Support Our Troops!!! For without them, you might be speaking German, Japanese, or Korean! Every linear Astron I've ever owned had an issue with vhf getting into the regulator thru the 12vdc output leads. I've always cured the issue by putting a 0.01 cap across the output studs & another to the chassis from the pos stud. Additionally, you could put one from the neg stud to the chassis as well. You may need to experiment with the value. Always worked for me. I dont recall mine ever blowing the fuse though. Blowing the fuse could mean the regulator was off in lala land where it couldn't sense an overcurrent condition or control the output voltage thus causing the scr to trigger. rtc --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "n9wys" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > For the learned group here. >snipped. > > Now - here's the WEIRD part. when I was at the tower with another tech and replaced the fuse the time before the last failure, we tried to use his DMM to check the P/S fuse for continuity. His meter acted as if the battery was dead - but later investigation revealed that the meter was getting hit with RF from another transmitter at the site. So I'm thinking that the RF problem may or may not be directly related to MY transmitter. (There is VHF 100W MICOR transmitter directly next to my equipment rack that is on 161.325, and transmits 24/7/365.) > > > Thanks, > > Mark - N9WYS >
Re: [Repeater-Builder] MFJ Analyzers (was Need SWR meter recomendation)
I had no problem with the attachment. You do need Adobe Acrobat Reader to open this. If you do not have Adobe Reader, download it and I bet the attachment will open. I don't have the address handy but do A search for "Adobe Acrobat Reader Download". I will bet you will be OK then. Bruce KE5TPN - Original Message - From: John J. Riddell To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 2:05 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] MFJ Analyzers (was Need SWR meter recomendation) Jim, The attachment can't be openedmaybe you sould re-send it...? 73 John VE3AMZ - Original Message - From: Jim Brown To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 1:07 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] MFJ Analyzers (was Need SWR meter recomendation) Her are some interesting comments on the MFJ SWR analyzers that were published in QST. I hope the attached file is not too large for download. 73 - Jim W5ZIT --- On Sun, 11/23/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Need SWR meter recomendation To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, November 23, 2008, 9:21 AM The latest models of the 259/269 have a recessed power switch to prevent it from being turned on accidentally. Bill - WA0CBW In a message dated 11/23/2008 12:53:06 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] com writes: Albert, I've had friends joke about MFJ standing for "mighty fine junk," but I have nothing but good things to say about my MFJ 259 antenna analyzer. If you're building antennas, the MFJ 259 (HF/VHF) or 269 (HF/VHF/UHF) are really handy. If you're trying to find the resonant frequency or set up a gamma match, they'll save a ton of time compared to an SWR bridge/transmitter combination, and give you more information, such as resistance and reactance displayed separately on the LCD. It also serves as a counter and, in a pinch, as a (not-very-stable and somewhat microphonic) signal generator. But remember the limitations. You can't transmit through them, so they can't be used to monitor the behavior of an antenna under operating conditions. They can't be used to measure a transmitter' s output power like most SWR bridges. They're also prone to error in any environment where strong external signals from nearby transmitters overwhelm the test signal internally generated by the analyzer, which results in a false reading of reflected power. I would recommend these little boxes to anyone, but do have one major complaint - the internal battery scheme. The thing takes 10 AA cells, they don't last long, and you have to remove several screws and the case to change them. You have to be really careful how you transport the 259, because the power button sticks out where any bump will turn it on, and run your batteries down. After having the power bumped on during storage and a resulting leak of the alkalines after they ran down, I cleaned it up (no permanent damage) and just don't put batteries in mine any more. I use it on the AC adapter, a cigarette lighter cord, or an external battery pack, all plugged into the 15V input. But I won't be without one! 73, Paul, AE4KR
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Registered Sex Offenders
I think it depends on location but generally, offenders are PROFOTIBED from making with minors, etc. I have heard of prosucations when they made internet contact. I would think HAM radio would be along the same lines. I would report them to the proper agency them report them to the FCC. Maybe one group will pick the flag up and run with it! Bruce Bagwell KE5TPN If You Can Read This, Thank A Teacher. If You Are Reading This in ENGLISH, Thank A Veteran or Current Soldier! Support Our Troops! For Without Them, We Have No Support at All! Hello I hope Everyone is doing Well , Some things We do not like talking about Except with our Ham friends Privately and I am sure My Topic is one that may effect all of us But I have a Question and I have got a lot of Opinions , But I Need to know if Anyone Has the Real answer and can Give ,Me the FCC Rule Etc A group of us are aware of a Couple Registered Sex Offenders who are Lic Ham Radio operators, They use some of the Local Repeaters . And have Engages in conversations with Lets say Younger Ham radio Operators, Boy Scouts, little league Etc We would like to Know is there is a FCC Ruling against Them still Holding and using a Valid Amateur Radio Lic I know this question will cause a Frenzy of comments, But I am sure others would like to know to So lets keep the answers and comments Civil. All of also know with the homeland Security some clubs have been given funds for Equipment and Training, I would hate for an Incident Come up because of the above Question, normally in Life changes are not made until something bad happens. PS I have a Repeater on 440 and 220 do I flip the big switch on them I am not judging Innocent or Guilt that will be done in a higher place 73 De Don KA9QJG
[Repeater-Builder] Re: New 6M Repeater in Central NH
Nate, I fully agree. Many new HAM's get A scanner to monitor the local going ons (Police, Fire Dept's, etc), or In our area, To monitor SKYWARN during severe weather. Many soon discover there is traffic at times other than bad weather and become interested. Maybe they catch A weekly or daily NET. There are many ways to become interested in this great hobby. There seems to be no end to the learning. New methods, new protocols, mixing radio and computer, voice, digital and CW, etc. As for finding LOCAL HAM's, you sure won't do that on HF! I am A fairly new HAM and there are several people at our club who will just about bend over backward to help or teach you. Give you extra unneeded equipment, teach how to make A simple first wire antenna, etc. No "Class Warfare" Here! Bruce Bagwell KE5TPN - Original Message - From: Nate Duehr To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 8:02 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: New 6M Repeater in Central NH On Jul 25, 2008, at 8:40 AM, Jason Greene wrote: > --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Nate Duehr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> No point in extending the pointless "license class wars" on a club >> website though. >> >> Nate WY0X > > I understood that caption as a reference their abilities. If you were > familiar with the club up here you would know this isn't a problem- no > ego's to deal with. I was a little nervous about saying anything for that reason -- different areas, different people. Not much overt "class war" going on here either, but a recent e-mail exchange with a grumpy old fuddy duddy who posted to a local VHF+ mailing list that people who use repeaters are nothing more than "pickle pushers" -- made me react badly to the caption. You know, (and I told him this too)... if he were putting on CW classes, RF engineering classes, and helping people learn, it'd be one thing. But he acts like he came out of his momma knowing CW and how to read Smith charts. That just chaps me to no end. We have plenty of nice folks who have come into the hobby through the use of our repeaters *first* who then learn about simplex, and then SSB, and then digital modes, and then weak-signal optimization techniques and antennas, and DX and... the list goes on, of course. What a great hobby. Repeaters are often the "gateway" to a lifetime of learning and camaraderie for many new hams. Treating them like crap does nothing to further any useful "cause". Sorry had to rant there -- hopefully that's on-topic enough for RB... about repeaters, but not really about building them... unless you consider that they're often the place where the local ham community gets "built" these days... -- Nate Duehr, WY0X [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Repeater-Builder] So I watched it NBC Dateline story on Tower Climbers
I agree with most of the replies. Myself have never been up A tower. While I did not expect it to be a training video, the only real bit on safety was the "Inspection". It showed a barrel full of "Junk" (Did NOT pass Inspection) safety gear but she passed with flying colors? I think it was MUCH more "SHOW" than "Reality". Just what is required for any TV show, A few colorful characters, A pretty girl or 2, A job of some kind to do and Human Interaction. Very little "Job". Maybe Discovery will pick it up and run it more like "Ice Road Truckers" and the other "Dirty Jobs" type shows they do. Still lots of on-the-job friction required for "good TV" but A lot less Fluff and Junk! Bruce KE5TPN - Original Message - From: Paul Plack To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 12:32 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] So I watched it NBC Dateline story on Tower Climbers Don, You always have to approach watching these things with the understanding that "done the industry a better service" is not among their goals. It's all about telling the viewer an interesting story. Even "reality TV" shows have writers! In this case, they seemed to be aiming more toward a plot that would make a good country song. 73, Paul, AE4KR - Original Message - From: de W5DK To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 9:47 AM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] So I watched it NBC Dateline story on Tower Climbers Good help is hard to find in every trade nowadays. I could have done without the adult day care angle, we all see it every day with current work ethics and morals. They could have done the industry a better service with more facts and public service links to safety training. I think it highlights the industry problem with subcontractors and poor safety training along with energetic young personalities. Or the "I can drink till 10 o'clock" guy. Seems like a good deal for the carriers and a bad deal for the widows and family left behind. I'm not in the industry so that's just my opinion and I know training will only get you so far. Some people are un-trainable. Some of us hams have climbed allot compared to others, unfortunately most all of us with ZERO safety training. Except for what I read in "Tune in the World" or ARRL antenna books, I have no training. I have climbed with others and watched and corrected unsafe moves. I get more nervous watching others than climbing myself. The main things I took away from all this reading and discussion was that all the deaths were preventable and 100% tied off needs to be preached. I can't find the NATE training link I saw yesterday. It would be good for the amateur community to be exposed to better safety materials. Maybe I just haven't looked hard enough. I also need to upgrade to newer better safety gear. 73 Don Kirchner W5DK
[Repeater-Builder] NBC Dateline story - List owner post
THANK YOU SCOTT!
Well said!
Myself, I don't even understand what others are having a problem with.
What was that line"Can't we all just get along?"
Thanks again. Good Job!
Bruce
KE5TPN
No, I don't feel as though vacations are in order in this situation. The
recent comments being posted, although not necessary, are not generally
offensive. What *I* took offense to was the woman bashing that started to
take place a few days ago. That's what *I* didn't care for and WILL NOT
tolerate.
I think it will suffice to say that those that can watch NBC programming can
watch the show during it's scheduled time tonight. Those that cannot watch
it during the first airing can watch it in reruns, NBC's website, or
YouTube. If it's important enough to a certain individual, they WILL FIND a
way to view the program. *IF* after it is broadcast, someone can provide an
on-line link to the show, that would be fine and much appreciated.
Let's all just sit back and be couch potatoes tonight and see what the
program has to offer while realizing that this is a "made for TV" program
just like 'Ice Road Truckers', 'Tougher in Alaska' and 'Deadliest Catch'. I
fully expect the program to focus not on tower climbing at all, but rather
on some side management issue having something to do with a relationship
gone south or how towers are not 'green' enough. (I hope I am wrong at this
assumption)
I will say this: If there are any personal attacks on list members or others
during the comments that are sure to follow the program's airing, I am
authorizing any of the list moderators to limit the violator's posting
privileges as they see fit.
Scott - List Co-owner
Scott Zimmerman
Amateur Radio Call N3XCC
474 Barnett Rd
Boswell, PA 15531
- Original Message -
From: "skyhawk579" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 11:57 AM
Subject: {Disarmed} Re: [Repeater-Builder] NBC Dateline story on Tower
Climbers
Scott,
Would you please delete all the user's whom keep responding to this
thread that you've already closed?
tnx,
73's
Rick Klinge
KC5UIW
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Ron Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> Bill,
>
> I am not sure who is saying the show is not airing in the USA. It
is scheduled at 10 PM EDT on NBC, Ch 8, on "Dateline NBC" tonight,
Monday. I am in Tampa Bay area, Florida.
>
> The show "Dateline NBC" is a USA broadcast company made for USA NBC
viewers and the footage was shot in the USA using USA tower climbing
companies.
>
> This is a
>
> 73, ron, n9ee/r
>
>
>
>
>
> >From: Bill Till <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Date: 2008/07/20 Sun PM 11:44:10 EDT
> >To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: Re: {Disarmed} Re: [Repeater-Builder] NBC Dateline story
on Tower Climbers
>
> >
> >It's scheduled on NBC on cable up here in the Great White North
(which is green this time of year). Check your local listings. We
will get it at 11PM from KHQ . I can't understand why it wouldn't be
aired in the USA. 73 .. BillVE5FN - Original Message -
From: Gmail - Kevin, Natalia, Stacey & Rochelle To: Repeater-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 7:08 PM
Subject: {Disarmed} Re: [Repeater-Builder] NBC Dateline story on
Tower Climbers
> >
> > Just a shame some of us won't be able to see this interesting
doco, not in the cont USA. Unlikely our TV companies will show this
any time soon, maybe ever. Any change someone will record it and
make it available via a torrent? Heres hoping. Â Kevin.
> >
>
>
> Ron Wright, N9EE
> 727-376-6575
> MICRO COMPUTER CONCEPTS
> Owner 146.64 repeater Tampa Bay, FL
> No tone, all are welcome.
>
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12:59 PM
[Repeater-Builder] Re: RadioShack Recalls Power Supplies
I figured that was A local code, not NEC. The only reason I can think of for
that requirement is the ampacity of the 12 or 14 ga wires. While we all know,
in actual use, 2 or more outlets strung along will not all have 15 amp or
higher loads in EACH outlet. However, theoretically, each outlet could have A
20 amp load plugged into it.That is probably why some pencil pusher decided
each outlet needs its own wire. (Never mind the fact the breaker would trip
regardless of what is plugged into each outlet or the number of wires leading
to said outlets, but that's another crazy thread) As for the Breaker Box, I
would assume each also has its own breaker. Trying to stuff more than one wire
into A breaker would more fun than I care to have.
Bruce
KE5TPN
Dave,
This is a code requirement here in my county and think all of Florida.
The code requirements for building is a county/state issue and vary. Most use
the NEC code. Many have additional codes such as having wind resistance
building. The way homes are constructed in the north would not be allowed in
Florida mainly due to the wind. This is why we see so much concrete block
construction with lots of requirements for attaching to foundation and roof
securing. Just different part of the US.
Same with electric code. For various reasons some additional changes are often
made. Just because you have a code in your area does not mean it is in all of
US. It is county mostly with some state codes. In my county there were NO
building codes until the 70s. Can you believe this.
73, ron, n9ee/r
>From: Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: 2008/07/06 Sun AM 11:43:50 EDT
>To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: RadioShack Recalls Power Supplies Due
>toElectrocution and Fire Hazards
>
>Where is the requirement for running a separate feed to EACH OUTLET
>REQUIRED? Not in the US> A "dedicated out is required for certain
>special situations but not for each outlet elsewhere. There are certain
>other requirements such as GFCI and AFCI. But, certainly no dedicated
>feeder for each out.
>
>Ron Wright wrote:
>> Gary,
>>
>> I've noticed in panels the safety ground and neutral go to a different buss
>> bar. I had thought maybe because the neutral was sometimes, not now to code,
>> smaller than the neutral. However, both got connected to the panel case. One
>> can Ohm out neutral to safety and only see the resistance in the wiring
>> to/from the panel. However, as you well know, should not be considered the
>> same.
>>
>> In most plastic coated wireing I see today the safety wire is green coated,
>> but some is still bare as you said. I've seen lots of this.
>>
>> Now in our county following NEC code the safety wire has to be same size as
>> neutral . No more of the 14-2 w/G cable, but 14-3 one being safety ground
>> color or bare. Also they are doing something different, a separate set of
>> wires must be ran between panel and each outlet...no more of one wire to one
>> outlet and then from here to another outlet, etc. Can you imagine the extra
>> cost and labor. Not sure what they do at the breaker panel...put in separate
>> breaker for each outlet. Not sure if this NEC code or something to do with
>> the hurricane code we have here in Florida. We do lots of construction very
>> different here, hi.
>>
>> 73, ron, n9ee/r
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> From: Gary Glaenzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> Date: 2008/07/06 Sun AM 10:19:49 EDT
>>> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: RadioShack Recalls Power Supplies
>>> Due toElectrocution and Fire Hazards
>>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't know what part of the US you live in, but around here (western IL)
>>> the grounding conductor ('safety ground') is bare in Romex-type cable, and
>>> may or may not be insulated in conduit, and usually one size smaller than
>>> the 'main' conductors.
>>>
>>> Also, the GC goes to one bus-bar, the neutral to another, the GC bus-bar is
>>> bonded ot the neutral at the SERVICE panel (incoming power, the one with the
>>> 'Main' braker that shuts off all power), but is kept separate in all
>>> sub-panels, and from the sub-panel(s) there must be a separate GC (coded
>>> green) run back to the GC bus-bar in the service panel.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> Ron Wright, N9EE
>> 727-376-6575
>> MICRO COMPUTER CONCEPTS
>> Owner 146.64 repeater Tampa Bay, FL
>> No tone, all are welcome.
>>
>>
>>
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: RadioShack Recalls Power Supplies Due toElectrocution and Fire Hazards
There are many makes of voltage sensing sticks one can get basically anywhere. Many times I have seen outlets "Converted" to 3 wire from two, only to find all they did was "ground" from the neutral wire. That means I get all kinds of RFI and if the "Ground" ever dropped, it would be HOT just from the return from the light bulb or whatever. BTW, those cheap "Testers" will NOT detect HOT/Ground/Neutral Reverse! If in doubt, run a wire from a known ground to your Meter and find what wires are "Hot" I remember A house I rented, every time I touched the light switch/outlet in the garage I got "tickled" Glad I knew what was going on or else I might have made full contact, and I would not be typing this right now! Swapped the HOT/Neutral/Ground and all was OK! Always remember, just because the outlet is "Grounded" does not mean it is really "Grounded" Verify! Stay safe out there! Bruce Bagwell KE5TPN If You Can Read This, Thank A Teacher. If You Are Reading This in ENGLISH, Thank A Veteran or Current Soldier! Support Our Troops! For Without Them, We Have No Support at All! > > The inspector I used checked every outlet in the house, & found one in the > garage that had line & neutral reversed. It is tagged as such, & is now > only used with fully insulated loads such as Christmas lights. > > Bob NO6B My brother lived in a house with two wire plugs he changed to three wire plugs. He just jumpered the neutral and ground together on the plugs. It fooled the inspector with the little plug in light up gizmo. I highly recomend one of these to anyone working around electricity. http://us.fluke.com/usen/products/Fluke+VoltAlert.htm?catalog_name=FlukeUnit edStates Best $20.00 I spent. tom n8ie
[Repeater-Builder] RE:Forced Battery Revert
Verision, in the Dallas, Texas area, recently sold their interest in BPL to "Oncor", Which was part of TXU before it was split apart, who is the local power Billng and Powerline company for several million/billion, I don't remember the exact mononatary number, like it really matters anyway!. It was more money than I have in any case! The Local News said, part of it was to inform TXU/Oncor when the power was out at any particuliar address. WELL! I guess the Cat just got out of the bag! Fellow HAM's, LOOK OUT!, and have the addresses for your Congress Critters At the ready! (Please Remember, if no one contacts the Congress Critters, they Think it MUST be OK) Broadband via PowerLine, while it is workable, tends to interfere with low freq. communications including, (Of Course), those of the HAM Community! I will leave it there and let the rest of you please pass it along. BroadBand Via PowerLine is BAD for us unless THEY can PROVE that it will NEVER INTERFERE with our COMM's! Bruce Bagwell KE5TPN .
[Repeater-Builder] New Files Available
Hello All, I have SERVICE MANUALS for the following: Johnson 511, 512 (Intermin Service instructions) Johnson 552/553 Industrial Repeater Johnson 949 VHF Community Repeater Operators Manual for GE MASTR Controller and Deskon II Willing to sell for best offer OR If the group can pay shipping BACK, I will pay shipping there for copy and posting on website so long as copyright laws are not broken. Have not checked the R/B web site. Just found this stuff and thought someone might be interested. Also have many SERVICE MANUALS for other older JOHNSON products. Mobile, Handheld, chargers,etc. Same offer. Also, MANY SAMS PhotoFacts for CB radio and Scanners from the 1970-1980 era +/-3 years? I can probably scan small sections if needed. Pics, etc are available, Prices neg. Contact me OFF LIST. KE5TPN AT swbell DOT net Thanks for the previous help! Bruce Bagwell in. Wichita Falls, (Tornado Alley,Texas (Remember April 10, 1979!) I, myself, will never forget it! That is why I am thankful for the Storm Spotters in my Area and plan to be one of the Same in the near future!) You want more proof I'm in Tornado Alley? The Tornados in Moore, OK., BOTH of those,(2 years apart) just missed the house I USED to live in only A few years before! Any wonder why I am thanking the Spotters, and why I want to become one? THANK YOU SKYWARN! (And of course, the HAM's that actually do the dirty work!) By that I mean the Storm SPOTTERS as opposed to the Storm CHASERS who get in the way of the people who really help!!!! Bruce Bagwell KE5TPN IRLP Node# 4640
[Repeater-Builder] antenna question - Dip It and Scotch Kote and Kry
OK guys, along this same line, I have a VHF all copper J-Pole and plan on building UHF all copper J-pole. Is common clear lacquer OK to prevent corrosion on the copper elements? I have used automotive type black silicone under 2" wide electrical tape to seal connections and the coax itself. The Coax to antenna connectors have been soldered to the copper tubing after finding best SWR. Other choices, Clear enamel, colored lacquer/enamel etc. Other stuff I have not even thought of? mainly just stop the copper from turning "green" but don't want to mess with the antenna in any way. This will be used beside my house and not at some far away repeater. Limited life is OK so long as I am aware of limitations. Bruce KE5TPN This painting of antennas seems to be on many of our minds. Wonder what the antenna manufactures would recommend or what they use if any??? After you get beyond the sales person who swears their products are rock solid and don't need painting or additional protection then you might get someone who would give some info. I would hope they would have done testing for anything they recommend, both SWR and pattern and signal. 73, ron, n9ee/r >From: Chuck Kelsey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: 2008/05/04 Sun AM 08:52:31 CDT >To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com >Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: antenna question - Dip It and Scotch Kote >and Krylon > >Funny you should mention Krylon... although I haven't done so in recent >years, I used to Krylon (clear) all antennas and never had a problem. I >forgot all about that until your mention of it. And they were mostly UHF >antennas - beams and folded dipoles. Go figure. > >Chuck >WB2EDV > >- Original Message - >From: "skipp025" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: >Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 9:44 AM >Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: antenna question - Dip It and Scotch Kote > >>I constructed a 6 meter beam some years back, worked like a bomb >> even at 25ft above ground elevation. To ensure my pride and joy >> would last a long time I sprayed it with clear Krylon brand spray >> paint. >> >> The antenna was instantly unusable regardless of my efforts to >> remove the paint, re-tune or otherwise modify the antenna. I later >> learned that type of paint contained materials with a horible >> D-Factor. I was never able to use the antenna again, although it >> remains in my back yard as a reminder. >> >> cheers, >> s. >> > Ron Wright, N9EE 727-376-6575 MICRO COMPUTER CONCEPTS Owner 146.64 repeater Tampa Bay, FL No tone, all are welcome.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Yahoo burp?
It's been awhile since anyone has heard from me, still shaking off the cinders from all the "Flames" sent my way! While those who "Flamed" are right, it was a stupid answer, I have noticed that many (Most) times never get the original message of the thread. The 2 week old post proves it! There was even a reply to this very old post! While I do not know what is going on, at least it helps explain the "dumb posting" I read several of the threads but either didn't get all the other threads, etc. or they came AFTER I sent my message. Please remember that thread went ON AND ON AND ON. While had I all the postings I would not have sent what I did, please remember all the "Experts" never did agree on this simple matter. Many even suggested to ask the FCC! While I am new to this hobby I know this well from other dealings with Government, NEVER ask them for an opinion on something that is really minor and no one can agree anyway. Many times, you will not like what they tell you! Amateur radio is supposed to be "Self Policing" and should remain that way! When I studied for my HAM ticket, I was really impressed by the fact for once Government is doing what it should do. Set-up a few basic rules, provide for enforcement and prosecution for breaking of those rules then stay the heck out of the way!!! The more times we HAMS ask Government for answers to really Non-Problems, we invite more regulation to our hobby. On the same topic of our hobby, while I admit I made A "Dumb Answer", Those who chastised me in the group format more than once is no way to build the number of HAMS! Most of the HAMS I have met are older, where is the young blood to keep all going after we are gone? I help to provide Comm. a couple weeks ago for the local Boy Scout Canoe Races. I was so impressed when young Scout came to me and said "I'm A HAM!". I asked him "What is you Call Sign" and he replied "Are you kidding! I can't even remember my phone number!" OK, this young Scout probably didn't use his HAM ticket but at least he had one! I think we ALL need to do whatever we can to promote the hobby to everyone we can in particular the young ones! Just brushing off the cinders! Sorry about the dumb post. Maybe that is a result of Spam Filters, different ISP's, etc. I would LOVE to know why something I sent 2 weeks ago just showed up yesterday! Seems the same thing happens all the time for me, just not quite that late! BTW, I know 10 meter is basically dead due to the Sun Cycle. However I have been given a 10 meter radio, Base and Mobile Antenna. What are the popular freq's, modes and beacons for this band? Hope this question isn't too stupid! Just thought about it and have not even had time to search the net for the answer. PSS. Thanks for the help on the Astron P.S.! Now have that critter working just fine with added V & A meters and a resistor/relay "Soft Start" Meters have been calibrated and re-scaled. PS never pops my weak house breaker and that should help the life of everything without the "Hard Turn-On Surge"\ Now I have the 12VDC power to run almost any mobile radio as A Base rig. Thanks again to all those who helped! Bruce Bagwell KE5TPN -Original Message- >From: Bruce Bagwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Apr 8, 2008 1:05 PM >To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com >Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Amateur repeater ID's [snip] This message was posted 2 WEEKS AGO Does Yahoo have the hiccups? .
[Repeater-Builder] Amateur repeater ID's
Every repeater in my area ID's on the hour. Sounds to me like it is either the freq. (rate) of the ID, (Say every 15 Min.) or the reference to the website (More likely) that the FCC is having problems with. But MAINLY this station seems to be interfering with another station on A nearby freq. (Freq. Coordination, not required but HIGHLY recommended!) BTW, many Repeaters in my area, with the ID say "The Time is" or "Good Afternoon/Morning, the time is", Does the FCC consider Broadcasting? I guess not. Bruce KE5TPN From: Paul M Schmitter That last paragraph is badly worded. Wheen I read it the first time, I understood it to mean that the reference to his website was the broadcasting being written about, but after reading it again, it leaves some doubt as to whether the IDer is also considered broadcasting. --- "Tony L." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The most recent case posted on the FCC's Amateur > Radio enforcement > actions web site is this one: > > http://www.fcc.gov/eb/AmateurActions/files/BEDNA07_05_25_1078.pdf > > --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "George > Henry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > Can anyone point me to the specific enforcement > case or warning > letter where > > the FCC first said that regular, periodic repeater > ID's > irrespective of > > repeater usage were broadcasting and had to stop? > The FCC's online > archives > > don't seem to go back far enough (seems to me it > was in the 80's), > and all > > the references that DID turn up dealt with > specific interference > cases, not > > the broadcasting issue. > > > > A news item in a QST or CQ column would be > sufficient... > > > > Thanks. > > > > George, KA3HSW / WQGJ413 > > > > > __ You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com
[Repeater-Builder] Mot Micor T74RT3000AA
Hello All and thanks to all who replied. A bit of my history. I am a self-taught with mail-order electronics courses and the time-to-time help of fine people like you guys. A machinist by trade until major surgery that left me disabled with Chronic Pancreatitis. Most of my electronics work is with AF amplifiers, light control systems (night clubs, etc.) and some TV work. Computers since my first TI99-4A in the early '80's. Computers, I only go to board level. Parts are too cheap to even bother trying to figure exactly what is wrong, just plug in a new board. Besides, I don't have the eyesight or super steady hands for the newer SMT stuff! Besides,I don't do electronics on a daily basis. Seems like only when something quits and needs to get fixed. When it comes to Radio, while I know the theory from my studies (And I need to go back and brush up for sure!) the actual practice is another story. That is why I have thrown a few questions your way. When I was asked to go through, catalog and dispose of this Gentleman's Radio shack, I decided to get my HAM ticket. There would never be a better time for sure! This Gentleman worked for Business and Govt., working mainly on Johnson and Motorola, and never threw anything away! This Micor probably got in the back shed because it had problems and the company just bought another, etc. I simply thought it might be a good way for me to learn by doing. I asked you guys about it because like I said, I know the theory but you guys know the practice better than I ever will! I fully agree, and it has been said many times in this group, to ALWAYS get something working like it was BEFORE making any changes. At least that way, you know everything was working until you started changing stuff, etc! I have yet to find A Micor control head but looked at schematic. If schematic is complete doesn't look like much to build one. Also, have A (from memory and hope this is right) Motorola "Talk-A Phone" head like I remember seeing in every Cop Car and TaxiCab in the ;late '60's and '70's. Maybe that could be adapted. One question, according to the Model #, this Micor was 2ch. TX and 2ch. RX. Does that mean there should (could) be another element? As for the newer stuff, will soon be buying a Kenwood TM-V71A Dual Band Mobile rig. Again, only thinking about this for practice and learning. I have all the test equipment except for a spectrum analyzer (DMM, O-Scope, Comm. Monitor, Freq. Counter, Dummy loads, etc.) Remember, I am going though the estate of someone who did this for a living, plus the test equip. I already have. All that being said, I will have many things for sale soon, but on this topic, I have found several Motorola elements and Johnson X-Tals. The Mot's are: Qty 4 of P/N K1005A (2)-R155.605Mhz 15767.222Khz (1)-R155.790Mhz 16.01000Khz (1)-R154.950Mhz 15.91Khz Qty 1 of P/N K1007A T-158.235Mhz 13186.250Khz No idea if these are good or not, no way to test. Will use gentleman's agreement. send to you then you send back $$$ if seems OK to you. You tell me what they are worth. As for the Johnson X-Tals, they are in original envelope, most with Comp. Cap. Too many to list here. If you need one, send either P/N and/or Freq. And I will see If I have it. Also have Com Monitor IFR FM/AM 1200A. Sorry, not the "S" Model with Spectrum Analyzer. I also have a 100ft.+ AGL guyed tower QTH Wichita Falls, TX. However, this owner simply wants someone to take it away for free. Come get it and it is yours. Sorry for the long letter but it might help you guts better understand me. The RF stuff, in practice, is new to me and I well know electricity can do some really weird things at high freq's! and I don't, as yet, understand all of it. Will stick my nose back in the books for sure! Thanks again for all the help! The "Repeater Builder" Site is A wealth of info for sure!! Bruce Bagwell KE5TPN I wrote: >I already know this is UHF mobile unit. I have the connector and cable >(s). What I need to know since I am new to all this RF stuff and think >this would make a good project is, is this all here? >Unit was found in an old shed. Lots of corrosion in the PA section. >connectors undone and bottom cover plate missing. Not a problem. I >want to use this in the 440-450 Mhz HAM band. The only element in it (I >understand there should only be one) is for R-451.875MC/1.8340.625KC >Mot P/N KXN1024A.
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Astron RM-50A Power supply
Thanks, I finally figured this critter out last night. I found the P/N on that SCR barely readable, but there. It was the 2N681, that Astron told be it was. Further checking shows it to be 25V/25A. Light! That's probably why they went to that 50V/65A unit that crosses to nothing! I found all I needed at Digi-Key rather than going through Astron. Hey, when I can't even send email, do they think I am going to order parts? NOT! Does anyone know what is used for the AMMETER? I want to add V and A meters. I have a large Ammeter (feed through) but the schematic shows current being sampled and run through a 500 Ohm pot. I have many 1 milliamp meters. If I can find the right pot and/or fashion a by-pass wire across the meter then re-scale it that would be nice. I never have liked the idea of feeding full current through a meter! The lightning appears to have gone around the outside of the unit. All 8 pass transistors shorted. 5 of 8 emitter resistors open. The MOV blown right off its leads! Best of all, one mounting on a pass trans appeared to be stripped, no turning it from outside or inside with pliers. I then realized the trans was loose! I pried it out and saw the screwhead WELDED to case! The control board, filter caps, rectifier diodes, driver trans, power transformer and all else appear to be OK. Thanks again for the help All! Bruce (PooterWizz) (CallSign coming soon) (Tech Test 3-20-08) >I had this same issue about a year ago. Their replacement SCR required minor >>modification to the enclosure in order to mount but otherwise worked ok in >>my RM50M. In my opinion Astron does a very poor job of documentation >and >support (especially phone support) so I often stay away from their >products. >Gary > pooterwizz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello Group! > i hope some one can help me here. I have An Astron RM-50A Power > Supply that took A lightning hit! All 8 pass transistors (2N3771) > are toast, but the 2N3771 driver is OK. The rectifies diodes are OK > and the power X-Former is OK. > > My problem is the crowbar SCR. This is a TO-48 case with MICA > insulators. > > I phoned ASTRON and got conflicting answers. The schematic I have > calls for a SO565J SCR. Astron says this is an INSULATED case device > rated @ 65A 50V. When I told him mice had mica, he said I had an > older unit (circa 1983 and the SCR is A 2N681. I checked this critter > and it is 50V @25A. That seems light for a 50A peak crowbar! > > Does anyone know of the correct P/N or proper cross reference? > > BTW, the email link at the Astron website is dead. I was told (By > ASTRON), the CORRECT email is: [EMAIL PROTECTED] When I tried to > send mail to that address it came back also. WHAT GIVES!!! .
[Repeater-Builder] Re: TPL Repeater AMP
The label says 136-174Mhz And was set to 153.92. 10-20W In=200-250W Out. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Fuse is 40A) 120VAC for cooling fan only P/N PA3-1FF and hand etched the letters "RF" It appears to be similar to the other PA3's according to manuals found on Repeater-Builder Website but with more power. I want to use it as A 2 Meter HAM Linear. I was thinking that will not work since the output freq is set regardless of the input freq. Thanks again, Bruce (Give me a few weeks on the CallSign!) (Tech Test 2-30-08. Should pass easily) (The ARRL study book covers everything I need!) >many of these are strip tuned and cannot be retuned easily. On the other hand >they are sometimes quite broadband also. If you want to use it on 2 meters it >may work on the top end of the band with maybe only a small loss in output. >Quoting pooterwizz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I am taking care of an estate for the Widow. I have a TPL PA3-1FF(RF) > Repeater Amp. > It has connections for both 13.8VDC and 120AC for the cooling fan. It > has a label factory adjusted to 153.92. > > Question, how does one change the output freq? The manuals on this > site do not cover this model. > I can use it if I can change the freq. If not, does anyone need this > and the 153.92 freq?
