Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor base sensitivity
Funny thing about that ... We have two Micor Repeater Stations here (443.050 MHz 147.36 MHz) with the original Squelch Gate cards still in them and properly set up according to the Micor Manual(s). We interconnected the two stations using the factory Line Driver cards as in the manual ... even though both stations are in the same relay rack. At no time have we ever considered the possibility of removing them for a 'modern' controller. We wouldn't trade that reliability of using factory designed / manufactured equipment for any after-market 'controller.' You may rewire as you wish (The time is [who carres?] etc.) We have found the ultimate reliability is go the factory route. The only problem we had, a couple of years ago, one of the users speaker-mike cord on his handheld shorted out for part of the day. He discovered this later and apologized. Neil - WA6KLA - Original Message - From: Ken Arck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 11:40 am Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor base sensitivity At 11:20 AM 12/19/2006, you wrote: Sure sounds like a case of the squelch being way too tight. ---If they're using the Squelch Gate card, misadjustment of that card is a very common reason for the behavior being reported. It is very possible to have the repeater key but not pass audio using one (which is why my Micor CompaStation conversions ALWAYS removes all but the SCM card) Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of the world famous RC210 Repeater Controller and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and we offer complete repeater packages! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net
[Repeater-Builder] Re: [CVRC] FCC Formally Releases Morse Code RO
Dick, thank you for the up-date ... Neil - WA6KLA - Original Message - From: Dick Flanagan K7VC [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 12:50 pm Subject: [CVRC] FCC Formally Releases Morse Code RO The FCC has released the Report and Order on WT Docket 05-235 removing the Morse code requirement for all amateur radio licenses. The effective date will be 30 days after the RO appears in the Federal Register. The RO is not expected to appear in the Federal Register until sometime in January, with an effective date sometime in February. More information is available from ARRL at http://www.arrl.org/news/stories/2006/12/19/101/?nc=1 There is also a FAQ (Frequently Asked Question) list at http://www.arrl.org/announce/regulatory/wt05-235/ 73, Dick -- Dick Flanagan K7VC NV SM [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the CVRC Web Site at http://www.cvrc.net
[Repeater-Builder] Re: [Motorola-Metrum-Motrac-Motran-Mocom] Kellogg's FCC Sign Pact
... forwarded ... ;) - Original Message - From: Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, December 17, 2006 10:00 am Subject: [Motorola-Metrum-Motrac-Motran-Mocom] Kellogg's FCC Sign Pact Washington D.C.- It was announced today that Kellogg's and the Federal Communications Commission have signed a pact to issue Amateur Radio Licenses on specially marked boxes of Corn Flakes. In this unprecedented move the FCC believes this will not hurt amateur radio but allow all individuals to receive an amateur radio license without having to demonstrate any skills with the exception of being able to use a pair of scissors to cut out their operating permit from the breakfast cereal box. Kellogg's spokesperson commented that they were proud to have been selected by the government to be the issuer of licenses for amateur radio in the US and hope to soon make an agreement with other cereal loving countries. They also expect that will be issuing certificates of achievement for DXCF for confirmed contacts with 100 corn flakers.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] FYI: FCC officially issues RO dropping code requirement today
One time 35-40? years ago, I was applying for an electronic technician position in Pasadena California. One of the pre-employment test questions was to draw a block diagram of a receiver. As my hobby time back then was amateur radio and I had been studying the Motorola T44A6A 450-470 Mc (not MHz back then) receiver. So, I drew the block diagram of the T44A6A receiver - triple conversion, walking first and second IF's, 455 Kc third IF and AFC circuit. Yes, I did get the job. Neil - WA6KLA - Original Message - From: Glenn Little WB4UIV [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Saturday, December 16, 2006 10:50 am Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] FYI: FCC officially issues RO dropping code requirement today It is now just a matter of time. The problems with hams not understanding what they are doing will increase. Interference will increase. Commercial interests will petition the FCC for the frequencies. The hams will not be able to defend their desire to keep the frequencies. Now the ham frequencies will be sold to the highest bidder. The handwriting is on the wall. Less that 10% of the newly licensed hams can draw a simple block diagram of the radio that they use. Just my opinion, based on my observations. 73 Glenn WB4UIV
Re: [Repeater-Builder] FYI: FCC officially issues RO dropping code requirement today
Hey Ken, I didn't know you are 'that' old. Back then you may have been a teenager ... Neil - Original Message - From: Ken Arck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Saturday, December 16, 2006 12:08 pm Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] FYI: FCC officially issues RO dropping code requirement today Interestingly, I applied for the same job and was asked to draw a block diagram of Neil. I didn't get the job Ken At 11:21 AM 12/16/2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One time 35-40? years ago, I was applying for an electronic technician position in Pasadena California. One of the pre-employment test questions was to draw a block diagram of a receiver. As my hobby time back then was amateur radio and I had been studying the Motorola T44A6A 450-470 Mc (not MHz back then) receiver. So, I drew the block diagram of the T44A6A receiver - triple conversion, walking first and second IF's, 455 Kc third IF and AFC circuit. Yes, I did get the job. Neil - WA6KLA - Original Message - From: Glenn Little WB4UIV mailto:glennmaillist%40bellsouth.net[EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Saturday, December 16, 2006 10:50 am Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] FYI: FCC officially issues RO dropping code requirement today It is now just a matter of time. The problems with hams not understanding what they are doing will increase. Interference will increase. Commercial interests will petition the FCC for the frequencies. The hams will not be able to defend their desire to keep the frequencies. Now the ham frequencies will be sold to the highest bidder. The handwriting is on the wall. Less that 10% of the newly licensed hams can draw a simple block diagram of the radio that they use. Just my opinion, based on my observations. 73 Glenn WB4UIV --- --- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of the world famous RC210 Repeater Controller and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and we offer complete repeater packages! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: tripp lite pr-25
There is the problem ... the manufacturers put the smoke in each part very carefully ... then you let it out ... That will do it every time ... Neil - WA6KLA - Original Message - From: Ian Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, December 15, 2006 2:34 pm Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: tripp lite pr-25 Thanks for all the help fellows. I will contact skipp and see if he has the reg. board for this unit. I made the mistake of hooking the power supply up to a car battery - backwards - and poof - all the smoke came out. From what I can see C6 on the reg. board is blown - the bridge rectifier is ok, and there is about 22 volts DC getting to the reg board, but it stops there. The board number is 66-214D if that helps 73 Ian VA2IR --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Mike Short [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am in the process of repairing a Tripp Lite 50A power supply. I bought a regulator board from Skipp, who frequents this site, and will graft it in to the power supply in place of the defective one. The pass transistors are 2N3055's, which are common in this application. Just a thought. Mike AI4NS Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] tripp lite pr-25
In another life, 20 years ago or so, my employer was using Tripp-Lite yellow domed strobe lights for their construction vehicles. One day, I was visiting the central garage and noticed they had 5 Tripp-Lite strobes on a bench. I asked the foreman why, his reply was because they had crapped out and hadn't been tossed out yet. I asked him if I could take them back to my shop and he replied 'Yes!' Fast forward a bit ... I analyzed the problem of each strobe light, determined there was an early version and a later version. Quickly, I discovered the problem of each strobe light, used the unrepairable units parts to fix the repairable ones and returned the repaired units to the central shop a couple of hours later. From then on, I got all the strobe lights for repair. I didn't need to contact the manufacturer as the transistors used were fairly obvious from a bit of study (Motorola) and the rest of the parts were available from the dead strobe units or the distributor. (flash tubes) You might want to study the internal workings of your power supply in case the problem is obvious. Good luck with your project, Neil - WA6KLA - Original Message - From: DCFluX [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, December 14, 2006 5:45 pm Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] tripp lite pr-25 Tripp lite does not allow there schematics out in the public, making repair of their power supplys fairly difficult. When I called asking for one they told me that they would be glad to sell me another PR-40 but couldn't offer a schematic for the one I had sitting in front of my blowd up. Repair involved the shotgun method of replacing every semiconductor component on the board. For future reference I would advise anyone to pony up the extra money and buy an Astron, at least those are user servicable. On 12/14/06, Ian Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all Looking for a schematic for a PR-25 tripp lite power supply. Can anyone help? Contact me off list at va2ir at securenet dot net Thanks 73 Ian
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Cushman CE-6030 Help needed, blew the pica fuse, where is it
There was, I believe, a Cushman CE - something that had that tiny pico fuse mounted behind the front panel connector. You had to remove the bottom cover to access it. Neil - Original Message - From: n9lv [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Saturday, December 9, 2006 9:14 am Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Cushman CE-6030 Help needed, blew the pica fuse, where is it Does anyone know where I can find the pica fuse to the antenna input on the CE-6030 service monitor. I think mine has blown since I cannot get very good sensitivity from it. All help is appreciated. Mathew Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: FW: Read: [Repeater-Builder] Stuck cores
I do believe I did state earlier that you might be able to locate replacement coils with the slugs on this remailer by carefully posting the exact model number as printed on the circuit board. Also, don't forget to include which coils you are looking for. This suggestion comes from someone who just tossed several Micor mobiles in the drop box (20 cubic yard trash dumpster.) I have played the bad slug / good slug game several times over the last 45 years or so - mostly Motorola FM gear. By far, the simplest fix for the Micor circuit board is a simple replacement. Hope this helps, Neil - WA6KLA - Original Message - From: Michel-A Allard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, December 8, 2006 6:04 pm Subject: Re: FW: Read: [Repeater-Builder] Stuck cores Well you all showed that you're computer experts, now can you get back to the topic and tell me if anybody have a way to safely unloose stuck cores without braking the cores??? I will be interested to read your reply on this one!!! 73, Michel --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Ken Arck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 05:56 PM 12/6/2006, you wrote: I don't know what this is, but I don't think I sent this message... Maybe someone is spoofing my address. ---Personally, I think anyone who runs MS Outlook should be drawn and quartered and their remains fed to zoo animals while their family members are required to watch and provide the ketchup I'm sorry and apologize if that offends anyone. I know I'm not being tough enough on 'em.. Ken Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: Read: [Repeater-Builder] Stuck cores
Hey Ken, That is one way to set your deviation ... Ok, I really mean it this time...this thread /dev/null Neil
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Stuck cores
... of course, you 'could' ask on here if anyone might have those coils with cores in a junk receiver board and then send them to you. Would seem to be much simpler for me ... Neil - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, December 6, 2006 9:02 am Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Stuck cores In a message dated 12/6/2006 9:47:03 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Of course, you need extra cores! Ken I'm not sure about the Micor core composition but my first commercial two way radio was an almost new Regency BTH301 30w high band radio. The tech that gave it to me said he replaced the tripler transistor and a cracked core. Never worked after that. The tripler would not tune. This was my first crack at fixing a transmitter. After messing with this thing off and on for 2 months I cracked the tripler core from messing with it too much. I went back to the shop and found another one just like it and got the core from the tripler coil and screwed it in to my project radio. It screamed to life putting out 40w without any serious metering. I then tried other cores from the same radio, none worked. Thats when I learned a little about core composition. If your stage wont tune after you replace the cores make sure you got the right stuff. Chris N9LLO
Re: RE: [Repeater-Builder] how to build a very simple repeater
Hello Paul, I remember them ... well. I also remember the receivers were triple conversion ... some used a 30-31 Mc crystal... the others used a 10-11? Mc crystal. I also remember the quick calculation for amateur band service was to use the existing 3rd IF conversion crystal and divide by either 14 (30-31Mc crystal) or 42 (10-11? Mc crystal). I am about to toss the manuals for them ... Neil - Original Message - From: Paul Finch [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, November 27, 2006 5:49 pm Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] how to build a very simple repeater Neil, By the way, I did the same thing except it was with a T-44, you rememberthose don't you? Paul -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Monday, November 27, 2006 2:05 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] how to build a very simple repeater Most certainly it does ... did that 35+ years ago ... one Motorola Sensicon 'A' Receiver, one Motorola '80D' transmitter strip, a power supply out of a Motorola 'Stan Pac' railroad locomotive 2-way radio, a couple of crystals, a pair of gold crystal ovens, two Motorola cavity resonators, a couple of Ringo antennas, some RG8/U coax and connectors, a telescoping mast, a fan for the transmitter, an ID'er of somesort, an open frame rack to install it all in and a donated repeater site. How simple do you want? More recently ... a pair of Motorola highband Motrans (U43MSN), a couple of properly crystaled Channel Elements, a couple of custom built voice coil to line / line to mic input networks (also had automatic PTT installed - all on one pair of wires) 2 12 volt batteries, a couple of antennas and masts, a good map, plenty of food ... munchies, beer, soda pop, suntan lotion, etc. and departed for the Baja. The Baja 500 off-road race 33-34-35?? years ago. Is that simple enough? Of course, it helped at the time I worked for a local two-way radio service shop and had access to all the test equipment I needed ... Now-adays ... Comm Spec make a simple repeater controller ... receiver to transmitter audio coupling doesn't need a gold plated metal box that also tells you 'Good Morning' ... Neil - WA6KLA - Original Message - From: WC4J [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, November 27, 2006 8:44 am Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] how to build a very simple repeater I've been looking for the same for a year now I don not think it exists Brian WC4J shame_you_promise wrote: hi im thus anybody here who knows on how to build a very simple repeater controller with-out any programming just a verry simple repeater controller...and also how to connect the two radio tnx... Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Looking for cable
I believe the cable you are looking for is 30C83560A02 c/o 6 conductors and a shield around the brown wire ... Hope this helps, Neil - WA6KLA - Original Message - From: Com/Rad Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, November 30, 2006 12:41 pm Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Looking for cable Anyone remember the P/N for the extended local control cable that Motorola sold for same purpose? This was a balck jacketed 7 conductor wtih audio lead shielded ( brown wire ) Also had Green, black, yellow, red, etc. around 20 ga to 18 ga Anyone have any ideas where to get this type of product? Belden - Alpha etc seem to come up blank 73 Ed Folta
[Repeater-Builder] 2 way radio instruction manual collection ... available ...
Ok, who is looking for a collection of Motorola / GE and RCA manuals for their collection? Included are three GE Datafiles or as close to as I can identify. I have about 20 - four drawer file cabinets worth. Simpler for me if the entire collection were taken by the same person. Neil McKie - WA6KLA ... located in central Oregon
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Sloper antenna
Hey John, I heard somewhere there is a 160 meter sloper hung off one of the Portland West Hills towers ... Neil - Original Message - From: JOHN MACKEY [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, November 30, 2006 9:31 pm Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Sloper antenna Yea, I know it's off topic, but this group is pretty smart about makingunusual things work. Has anyone here ever made a Sloper antenna for 10 meters? Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Looking for cable
Thanks Eric :) I took the part number from the Desk Set Models T1370A and T1371A poop sheet Motorola part number 68P81115A05-P Dated 12/2/77 73, Neil - Original Message - From: Eric Lemmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, November 30, 2006 9:24 pm Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Looking for cable That cable part number was changed to 3083560A02, and was later cancelledand is no longer available from Motorola. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Thursday, November 30, 2006 2:23 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Looking for cable I believe the cable you are looking for is 30C83560A02 c/o 6 conductors and a shield around the brown wire ... Hope this helps, Neil - WA6KLA - Original Message - From: Com/Rad Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:com-rad%40com- rad.com Date: Thursday, November 30, 2006 12:41 pm Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Looking for cable Anyone remember the P/N for the extended local control cable that Motorola sold for same purpose? This was a black jacketed 7 conductor with audio lead shielded ( brown wire ) Also had Green, black, yellow, red, etc. around 20 ga to 18 ga Anyone have any ideas where to get this type of product? Belden - Alpha etc seem to come up blank 73 Ed Folta Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: spur from UHF MASTR II mobile - link radio
Wouldn't hurt ... but if you want the AFC to work properly, you will need to change the direction of the discriminator diodes. Neil - - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 7:31 am Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: spur from UHF MASTR II mobile - link radio Should the same high-side injection be requested when ordering 440- 450 MHz crystals for a MICOR channel element? So far, everything has tuned up very well just having ICM make new crystals according to the standard MICOR receiver formula, and I always send in the channel elements to be completely temperature compensated, etc. while I'm at it. But I've wondered if future orders should also request that they be ordered with high-side injection? LJ Original Message- From: k6jsi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Nov 27, 2006 9:00 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: spur from UHF MASTR II mobile - link radio --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Don Kupferschmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nate, I'm wondering if you can point me to a link that would further explain lo / hi injection. Hate to admit, but I'm not all that familiar about the subject, especially in repeater operation. TIA, Don, KD9PT (Snip) Hi Don, The normal MASTR II receiver uses a low-side Local Oscillator injection for their mixer. The IF is 11.2 MHz, so you deduct 11.2 MHz from the operating frequency. The normal operating frequency for the 88 series MASTR II radios is 450 to 470, so the LO (Local Oscillator) is engineered to run between 438.8 and 458.8 MHz (450 ? 11.2 = 438.8; and 470 ?11.2 = 458.8). When we in the amateur radio service order a low-side injection crystal, we are essentially asking the LO to operate between 428.8 and 438.8 MHz, worst case being 10 MHz below the engineered operating frequency range (440 ?11.2 = 428.8, and 450 ?11.2 = 438.8) This is stretching the original design of the local oscillator 10 MHz beyond the design parameters. If we order high-side injection crystals, we add 11.2 MHz to our operating frequency, rather than subtract it. So the LO will runs between 451.2 and 461.2 MHz (440 + 11.2 = 451.2, and 450 +11.2 = 462.2). If you are operating in an area of the country where you run low- in, high-out split repeaters, your receivers will operate between 440 and 445 MHz, and the highest possible LO frequency will be 456.2 MHz (445 + 11.2 = 456.2), or right in the sweet spot for the LO range (438.8 and 458.8). If you are operating in an area of the country where you run high- in, low-out split repeaters, and your receiver will operate between 445 and 450 MHz, and the highest possible LO frequency will be 450 + 11.2 = 462.2, or only 3.4 MHz higher than the designed frequency of the LO. The cross-over frequency seems to be 448.300 MHz, which is 1.7 MHz higher at a high-side injection than designed, and a low-side injection is 1.7 MHz lower than designed Local Oscillator. So, maybe a good rule of thumb would be to order high-side injection on operating frequencies below 448.300, and low-side injection on receive frequencies above 448.300. That way, the worst case scenario is your being either 1.7 MHz higher or lower than the original engineered design on the local oscillator. You can do the same math for high-band radios. Same IF. Hope that helps. Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: RE: [Repeater-Builder] spur from UHF MASTR II mobile - link radio
Not quite ... I believe he stated this radio package is being used at home - reason for the problem being discussed in the first place. The 145.45833 MHz birdie seems to be interferring with his ability to hear a 2 meter repeater output. A 152.925 MHz birdie may not cause a problem in his neighborhood. Neil - WA6KLA - Original Message - From: Jeff DePolo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 10:49 am Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] spur from UHF MASTR II mobile - link radio Not quite, as 145 MHz will never make it through the UHF helicals. It's just leaking out of the RX case. Neil's got the easiest solution: order a high-side LO xtal for your 447.575 RX. Bob NO6B But that will just move the problem somewhere else...up to 152.925 where you might make even more enemies than on 145.460...
Re: [Repeater-Builder] how to build a very simple repeater
Most certainly it does ... did that 35+ years ago ... one Motorola Sensicon 'A' Receiver, one Motorola '80D' transmitter strip, a power supply out of a Motorola 'Stan Pac' railroad locomotive 2-way radio, a couple of crystals, a pair of gold crystal ovens, two Motorola cavity resonators, a couple of Ringo antennas, some RG8/U coax and connectors, a telescoping mast, a fan for the transmitter, an ID'er of somesort, an open frame rack to install it all in and a donated repeater site. How simple do you want? More recently ... a pair of Motorola highband Motrans (U43MSN), a couple of properly crystaled Channel Elements, a couple of custom built voice coil to line / line to mic input networks (also had automatic PTT installed - all on one pair of wires) 2 12 volt batteries, a couple of antennas and masts, a good map, plenty of food ... munchies, beer, soda pop, suntan lotion, etc. and departed for the Baja. The Baja 500 off-road race 33-34-35?? years ago. Is that simple enough? Of course, it helped at the time I worked for a local two-way radio service shop and had access to all the test equipment I needed ... Now-adays ... Comm Spec make a simple repeater controller ... receiver to transmitter audio coupling doesn't need a gold plated metal box that also tells you 'Good Morning' ... Neil - WA6KLA - Original Message - From: WC4J [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, November 27, 2006 8:44 am Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] how to build a very simple repeater I've been looking for the same for a year now I don not think it exists Brian WC4J shame_you_promise wrote: hi im thus anybody here who knows on how to build a very simple repeater controller with-out any programming just a verry simple repeater controller...and also how to connect the two radio tnx...
Re: [Repeater-Builder] spur from UHF MASTR II mobile - link radio
Hi ... 447.575 MHz - 11.2 MHz (Intermediate Frequency) = 436.575 MHz (output of the receiver multiplier injection chain) divided by 3 = 145.45833 MHz. Try high side injection ... that frequency will come out to 152.925 ... Neil - WA6KLA - Original Message - From: Nate Duehr [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, November 27, 2006 11:54 am Subject: [Repeater-Builder] spur from UHF MASTR II mobile - link radio Hi guys, Built a link radio out of a MASTR II mobile a while back. 444.575 TX, 447.575 RX. It is NOT duplexed and the RX section turns off during TX, just a normal MASTR II mobile setup. The only modification done was to by-pass the PA and run the exciter output over to the Low-Pass Filter board in the PA section directly -- didn't need much power to make this link work with a 6 or 7 element yagi mounted outside, pointed at the repeater it's linking into. After having the link installed in my basement for a few days, I realized that it's throwing a fairly strong dead carrier on VHF at 145.460 or thereabouts, but ONLY when it's sitting idle in Receive. When the radio is transmitting the carrier generated by the receiver disappears. It's not strong enough to receive it further than about one house away on an HT down the street, and I don't hear it one block over, but there in the house... permanent carrier on 145.46. (Unfortunately this is the output frequency of one of our club repeaters that's over 40 miles and behind a ridge from my house, and the repeater loses completely to the carrier coming from the link radio in the basement.) I attempted to figure out the mix math to see if that would be a normal thing to see when using that particular UHF RX frequency, but I'm honestly not very good at that. I figured I'd post and see if any of the list's gurus might have an explanation of why it might be doing this. Any thoughts? I might (just to see what happens) stuff the crystals in another MASTR II, tune it up, and see if the same thing happens, but if this could be explained mathematically, that would be more interesting. Hmm, what other info might you need... ahh... thinking back, the crystals might not have been ordered with high-side injection... I'd have to look at the ICM packing sheet, and it's at home. Nate WY0X Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] MAXAR 80 Low-Band VHF Radio Search for Knowledge
Besides a cereal box source, what is a decoder ring? I probably have the manual ... part of the 'just about to be tossed stuff' around here ... the drop box arrives tomorrow morning. When I get tired of moving manuals to the recycler, the remaining manuals will also go into the drop box. No, is not part of the scheme of things to go searching for something special and mail for someone. If I were to ship stuff, I could be shipping stiff for the next year ... Motracs, Mocom-70's, Mocom-30 too?, Micors, Mastr-Pro's, Mastr II's, Exec II's, RCA 700 Series, cabinets, Heliax, Mitreks ... If you want something, be ***here*** and dig for yourself. Neil - in central Oregon - Original Message - From: Budd [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, November 23, 2006 6:47 am Subject: [Repeater-Builder] MAXAR 80 Low-Band VHF Radio Search for Knowledge From a friend on another list. Please respond to his address below. Happy Thanksgiving 73 Budd Jon Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good morning all: I have a kennel full of these dogs, and am determined to do something with them (other than the dumpster). 6m 9600 baud links, maybe. Anyone got the decoder rings? Manual, schematic, parts layout? Happy Thanksgiving - Jon N7UV Yahoo! Groups Links
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[Repeater-Builder] The Great Sort --- part 2
This coming weekend - starting Friday - tentatively, the garage here is getting cleaned out. If you are here, you can have some if you are not here, you can't have some ... Included ... Motorola: Motrac, Mocom-70, Micor, Mitrek etc GE Mastr-Pro, Mastr II, Exec II, whatever ... RCA Series 700 Manuals too Other ... 73, Neil McKie - WA6KLA
Re: [Repeater-Builder] unsubscribe
Two ways to do it - one complicated as hell One is to attempt the web site below ... The simplest one is send a message to ... see below: - Original Message - From: Mike Morris WA6ILQ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, November 19, 2006 3:00 pm Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] unsubscribe At 03:58 AM 11/18/06, you wrote: Would please unsubscribe You have to do it yourself Best Regards Harry Hartmann
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola TLD1470A
The 'D' in the model number tells me the radio is in the 150-174 MHz range Also, the FCC number CC 3031 - first digit is a 3 = 150-174 MHz Neil - WA6KLA - Original Message - From: reed_swasey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, November 16, 2006 12:16 pm Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola TLD1470A Does anyone know anything about this radio. It was used as a radio telephone. I believe the radio is uhf and was used around 452 MHZ. Am interested in know if it can be converted to use in the amateur bands. Information from the plate on the radio is as follows Model # TLD1470A Trans. Type CC3031 Thanks again for the Help Reed reed_swasey@ yahoo.com KB7TCV Northeastern Utah Yahoo! Groups Links
[Repeater-Builder] RE: Need a Motorola Publication...
... forwarded ... Can anyone assist here? Neil, I'm looking for a Motorola publication called the R56 Handbook, which deals with RF grounding systems. While all bonded together in the end (as per NEC), the RF grounding system is not to be confused with lightning protection and standard electrical system ground. This is not a Polyphaser deal, but a MOTOROLA publication, which I understand is also available in CD ROM format. Thanks, Neil! Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Wount To Find Out About Buiding A New Repeter
I question that 9.2 dB antenna, is it actually 9.2 dBd or 9.2 dBi ?? Neil - WA6KLA Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Wount To Find Out About Buiding A New Repeter Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 14:36:47 - Jim, First add all the System Gains (SG)in dbW measurements, from that figure you then subtract all your Sytem Losses (SL)in dbW, the result equals your ERP in dbW. Convert the ERP in dbW back to ERP in Watts. Before you start adding the SG you must convert your Tx output pwr. from Watts to dbW. (ie 50w=17.0dbW) I use a Conversion Table that is included in some old Rptr. coord, papers, however you should be able to find a conversion table or the mathematical(sp?) formula on Google or on one of the Rptr. Bldr. site pages. Therefore the following example: 1. 50w Tx out=17.0dbW + ant. gain 9.2 dbW = Tot. SG 26.2dbW 2. Ant. FL lgth. /100 x loss per 100' at you freq band = Tot/FL loss in db. (50 /100x1.04 = .52dbW (1/2LDF @ 450mhza=1.04db/100'). 3. Duplexer insertion loss = 1.5 dbW 4. Other losses = 0.0dbW 5. Tot. SL (.52+1.5) = 2.02dbW 6. Tot. SG (26.2) - Tot. SL (2.02) = Tot. ERP in dbW (24.18dbW) 7. Convert ERP in dbW back to ERP in Watts (24.18 = 250+ Watts ERP. Note: Some interpolation of the tables I use is required. Feedline looses per 100' @ given freq. are generally provided by the mfg. If you would like a copy of my work sheet (Tables included) email me direct. N3DAB/WPRX486 GMRS/WPJL709 LM --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: n3dab [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can go to the FCC site and pull Part 95 like I just did and read it for yourself. I'm running 50w from my Micor rptr. xmtr. with 1.5db loss from a MOt. 1504 duplexer into 50' of 1/2' LDF4-50 heliax to a DB410 9.2db gain omni antenna. This all calculates out to approx. slightly more than 250W ERP. This machine has been in service for at least 25 years on 462/467. 675 in the Atlanta Ga. area N3DAB/WPRX486 GMRS/WPJL709 LM Doug, Can you show us your formula for converting power output to ERP? I guess, power out(watts) - (1.5db)+(50' of LDF$-50)+9.2db=ERP output. More details please. Thanks. 73's, Jim Kh6jkg. __ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] repeater location fees
Depends on who you are, where you are, who owns the tower, how much money you don't have ... and a few other gotchas ... Neil Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] repeater location fees Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 20:48:56 - Does anyone know how much the average cost is for a repeater site on an existing tower? Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [SPAM:*] [Repeater-Builder] WTB 72-88 Mhz Maxtracs or GM300's
How about some 72-76 MHz Micor gear? Neil - WA6KLA Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [SPAM:*] [Repeater-Builder] WTB 72-88 Mhz Maxtracs or GM300's Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 22:11:30 -0700 (PDT) Looking for 72-88 Mhz maxtracs gm300 and saber series portables..thanks -Fight back spam! Download the Blue Frog.http://www.bluesecurity. com/register/s?user=c3lzOTAwMDM2OA%3D%3D Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Oh those inspection stories...
Hi Skipp Hi Neil, Although the example story deviation was excessive, I'm not sure the citation would have actually stuck in a band where wideband experimental amateur radio modes are allowed. The results could have played out a number of different ways. I would believe the response to the citation would have been there is no specification in Part 97 of the FCC regulations about deviation or some such. I have found cases where the inspection people were quite nice, very smart and interested in making sure the spirit of the law is pretty much in effect. I've also found cases where the converse was the deal of the day. The best thing one could hope for is to stay off the FCC's radar screen by being realistic (not a division of Tandy Corportation) and keeping your paperwork straight. A lot of people will call upon the authorities to deal with a problem and then act surprised when the inspectors also want to check out the reporting parties equipment and licenses. Beware of what you ask for the other person as it will surely also happen to you... Except for license tests, I have had never been contacted by commission employees except once by someone in the Los Angeles office. At the time, I was the amateur band UHF frequency coordinator in southern California. He wanted to know who was on a certain frequency. Looking at my info chart, I told him who. Also let him know how to locate the person. His repeater on Mt. Wilson at the time, was spurious and was causing interference. The transmitter, as I remember, was an RCA CSU15 ... cheers, skipp Neil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quite a number of years ago, I knew of an FCC inspection of a repeater site in southern California - apparently the inspector didn't know what he was looking at. As the story went, he removed the output of the exciter to measure the RF power there ... The exciter consisted of a rack mounted Motorola U44BBT. I don't remember the rest of the story but the system owner got cited for excessive deviation - was running +/- 10 kHz or so. This was in the amateur band ... before most of the systems had gone to +/- 5 kHz. Neil - WA6KLA Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Arcom RC-110 Yahoo Group
Yep, he's here ... at least, somewhere ... If it is a panic, I can call him for you ... Neil Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Arcom RC-110 Yahoo Group Date: Mon, 29 May 2006 21:56:57 +0100 Ken's ( the owner )been to Dayton - try again and see if you get it this time. I think Ken is on this list too Matt - Original Message - From: Jim Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 29, 2006 8:21 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Arcom RC-110 Yahoo Group Anyone know what has happened to the RC-110 Group? Wonder if it is a personal problem or has the group been disbanded? Hello, Your request to join the rc110 group was not approved. Your membership was automatically rejected because the moderator didn't approve it within 14 days. We do this to provide a high quality of service for our users. If you want, you may attempt to join this group again. You may find other groups to join by searching or browsing the Groups directory: http://groups.yahoo.com If you would like to create your own group, please visit: http://groups.yahoo.com/start Thank you for choosing Yahoo! Groups. Regards, Yahoo! Groups Customer Care Yahoo! Groups Links ___ All New Yahoo! Mail – Tired of [EMAIL PROTECTED]@! come-ons? Let our SpamGuard protect you. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Quick GMRS repeater w/ Radius m10 and RICK
Quite a number of years ago, I knew of an FCC inspection of a repeater site in southern California - apparently the inspector didn't know what he was looking at. As the story went, he removed the output of the exciter to measure the RF power there ... The exciter consisted of a rack mounted Motorola U44BBT. I don't remember the rest of the story but the system owner got cited for excessive deviation - was running +/- 10 kHz or so. This was in the amateur band ... before most of the systems had gone to +/- 5 kHz. Neil - WA6KLA Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Quick GMRS repeater w/ Radius m10 and RICK Date: Sun, 28 May 2006 16:10:36 - I know a lot of you guys dance and sing the Type Accepted or Certificated requirement, but in the real world it's mostly a popcorn fart. If the FCC should ever come to inspect your radio site, most any radio type properly operating is not going to be on their list of things to worry about. They are probably not going to be asking you to remove radios from repeater racks to ensure they are currently type accepted. It's the responsibility of the equipment owner operator to ensure the equipment operates without causing problems. If there are no reported problems you will probably never see or hear from the FCC. If you use an M10 for a GMRS Repeater Tx, chances are it will not be a real problem in 99.7% of the cases. An inspector will be more interested in a current license for the frequencies and power levels used. cheers, skipp sgreact47 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry but the M10 transmitter is NOT type F. C. C. accepted or certificated for use as a repeater in the GMRS. N6YV jsluchak@ wrote: Greetings to the group. I want to construct a quick GMRS repeater with two Radius m10 radios and a Rick unit snip Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Quick GMRS repeater w/ Radius m10 and RICK
Does that 0.00025% apply to mobiles as well? Neil Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Quick GMRS repeater w/ Radius m10 and RICK Date: Sat, 27 May 2006 09:11:43 -0400 The technical requirements for a transmitter useable for GMRS service ARE: 1. FCC part 95 type acceptance. 2. Transmitter frequency stability of .00025% To check if the equipment you want to use meets the technical specifications for use as a GMRS repeater transmitter. Use the FCC ID number on the transmitter equipment and search at this link: https://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/oet/cf/eas/reports/GenericSearch.cfm?c alledFr omFrame=N The information on how to setup the Rick and the radios can be found on the repeater builder web site, possibly the batwings site, And most assuredly someone on this list that has set one up will respond with helpful information. I have not used a Rick but have built and serviced may GMRS repeaters. I wanted to make the original poster had the proper information regarding the equipment he wanted to use. Kevin King SCSA BSCIS ARS KC6OVD GMRS KAG0378 EIEIO 2722 Acworth Georgia -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of sgreact47 Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 3:49 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Quick GMRS repeater w/ Radius m10 and RICK N6YV jsluchak@ wrote: Greetings to the group. I want to construct a quick GMRS repeater with two Radius m10 radios and a Rick unit snip Sorry but the M10 transmitter is NOT type F. C. C. accepted or certificated for use as a repeater in the GMRS. Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Quick GMRS repeater w/ Radius m10 and RICK
That's what I thought ... after someone stated all GMRS transmitters must be 0.00025% tolerance ... Thanks, Neil - WA6KLA Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Quick GMRS repeater w/ Radius m10 and RICK Date: Sat, 27 May 2006 13:44:10 -0400 mobiles are .0005% Kevin King SCSA BSCIS ARS KC6OVD GMRS KAG0378 EIEIO 2722 Acworth Georgia -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 10:50 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Quick GMRS repeater w/ Radius m10 and RICK Does that 0.00025% apply to mobiles as well? Neil Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Quick GMRS repeater w/ Radius m10 and RICK Date: Sat, 27 May 2006 09:11:43 -0400 The technical requirements for a transmitter useable for GMRS service ARE: 1. FCC part 95 type acceptance. 2. Transmitter frequency stability of .00025% To check if the equipment you want to use meets the technical specifications for use as a GMRS repeater transmitter. Use the FCC ID number on the transmitter equipment and search at this link: https://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/oet/cf/eas/reports/GenericSearch.cfm? c alledFr omFrame=N The information on how to setup the Rick and the radios can be found on the repeater builder web site, possibly the batwings site, And most assuredly someone on this list that has set one up will respond with helpful information. I have not used a Rick but have built and serviced may GMRS repeaters. I wanted to make the original poster had the proper information regarding the equipment he wanted to use. Kevin King SCSA BSCIS ARS KC6OVD GMRS KAG0378 EIEIO 2722 Acworth Georgia -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of sgreact47 Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 3:49 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Quick GMRS repeater w/ Radius m10 and RICK N6YV jsluchak@ wrote: Greetings to the group. I want to construct a quick GMRS repeater with two Radius m10 radios and a Rick unit snip Sorry but the M10 transmitter is NOT type F. C. C. accepted or certificated for use as a repeater in the GMRS. Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Need source for RF RCA connectors
RF RCA Connectors ??? Neil Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Need source for RF RCA connectors Date: Sat, 27 May 2006 21:43:38 -0700 My stock of RF RCA connectors (the ones used for carrying RF inside GE MVPs, Mastr IIs etc.) has run dry, I haven't seen any at our local swap meets. Anyone know where I can find these? Thanks. Bob NO6B Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] receiver
Well, first off ... we will need the make and model number of 'that' receiver you are going to use ... Neil - WA6KLA Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] receiver Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 20:25:55 -0400 I need to hook up a non Motorola receiver to a micor repeater I am going to remove the original and want to use the Motorola hang trimmer card and timeout timer card need to know were to hook up cos and audio in 440 band Any help please 73 merrill KG4IDD Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] midland 13-509 tx freq stability... cap change?
Or use a Motorola crystal oven @ 85 degrees C ... Neil - WA6KLA Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] midland 13-509 tx freq stability... cap change? Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 08:43:33 -0700 At 5/23/2006 07:20, you wrote: One other thing you might try - tape a 100 ohm 1 watt resistor to the side of the crystal and put 12 VDC across it. Not a pretty sight, and If you're going to heat the crystal, might as well use something that will keep it at a more or less stable temperature: a 50 ohms 50 degree C PTC thermistor. Digikey has them for $1.68 each (manufacturer part # RL3006-50-50-25-PTO). Desolder one of the leads solder the disk directly onto one side of the crystal, ground the crystal case apply a regulated voltage to the other side. Bob NO6B Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: midland 13-509 tx freq stability... cap change?
Depends on the vintage ... Neil Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: midland 13-509 tx freq stability... cap change? Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 19:53:24 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or use a Motorola crystal oven @ 85 degrees C ... Neil - WA6KLA Neil, Don't you mean Rock Stove? It is the same thing! Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] midland 13-509 tx freq stability... capchange?
I have found the Motorola 85 degree C gold oven to be quite stable - the earlier black 65 degree C oven wasn't. I think I found a brand new gold one in stock here a few weeks ago too. Neil Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] midland 13-509 tx freq stability... capchange? Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 17:00:21 -0700 At 5/23/2006 02:06 PM, you wrote: If you decide to use an 85 deg C oven, you must get the crystal cut for that temperature. Yes, I've noticed some short-term aging problems with crystals run at 50 C. In one case the crystal was held at 35 C for a couple of years, then sat on the shelf for a few more. When put back into service at 50 C, it drifted up about 2 PPM over a period of a couple of days. So it seems that even moderately heated crystals need to be aged at their operating temperature. Bob NO6B Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Mitrek COS ?
Ok, enjoy, Neil Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Mitrek COS ? Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 12:13:02 -0400 Hi Richard and Neil... In my instance, it floats between 3 and 3.5 volts which is just enough to confuse my controller as to which state the squelch is actually in. Both approaches would probably work just fine... but haven't had a chance to deal with it yet. I can think of a number of instances when one might want to disable the input tone. I haven't had a need to so far, so the issue hasn't been resolved as of yet. During the summer is when most station owners want to do maintenance on AM-Directional systems, so my days have been pretty full of late. grin! Thanks for the ideas though I will check into it once I get a chance 73 Mike Perryman www.k5jmp.us -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 11:22 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mitrek COS ? Mike Perryman wrote: I was having trouble with my micor in that the COS signal would never go completely to zero volts... Mocom-70 was good for that too .. my solution came from a fire-alarm controller: Details are fuzzy, but ~ it used some dual-input flip-flop comparator chip (7476 ?) ... sample (waffle-voltage) on one input a reference on the other. When the relative voltages reversed, made for a nice clean on-off at the output, and a xstr follower allowed for switching some juice... /. Hmmm ... I have run into this problem in the past ... I fixed it by biasing the emitter of the first (external) transistor off ground with a voltage divider .. or sometimes by placing a diode in series with the emitter. One time - I think it was a Standard land-mobile radio, the COS feed (aka squelch detector) was several volts above ground. In that instance, I installed a voltage divider between A+ and ground - to positive bias the added transistor above ground so when the squelch opened, the sense lead to the external transistor turned it on. Make sense? Neil - --- -- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group Repeater-Builder on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. - --- -- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] scanner interference
I have had similar experiences with a Bearcat 250 Scanner / 10.85 MHz IF as I remember ... Neil - WA6KLA Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] scanner interference Date: Wed, 03 May 2006 07:06:50 -0400 So how can a scanner interfere with a repeater? I'm probably missing something basic but thought I'd ask anyhow. Given the original description of the problem Mathew has been asked to help solve, I doubt a scanner is the problem - hence I'm changing the Subject header... The local oscillator in scanners can radiate back out the antenna and be heard some distance away. Many scanners receiving in the VHF band have the LO offset below the receive frequency by whatever the IF of the scanner happens to be (10.7 and 10.8 MHz are both common, but there may be others). Years ago when I put up my first repeater I encoutered this problem. The repeater was on 145.110 and the original configuration was carrier squelch. As soon as I turned it on it started kerchunking rhythmically... bleep... bleep... bleep... After a few hours hunting I found a scanner one mile from the repeater site that was causing it. The owner had 155.310 programmed in the scanner and that one had a 10.8 MHz IF. Every time is scanned that frequency it keyed my repeater. 155.310 minus 10.8 equals 144.510, my repeater input frequency! The signal that thing put at the repeater site a mile away was quite strong. When the scanner stopped on 155.310 it put a darn near full quieting signal into my repeater receiver. I'm sure many others have similar experiences. Paul Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT--
Come on by sometime (soon) and I will load you up. I am giving some thought to doing a(another) clean-out of my garage - away will go the Motrac Collection, accessories, anything related ... Also to go will be the Mastr-Pro collection and all accessories. The next step will be Micor/Mocom-70's and perhaps the Mastr-II / Exec-II collection - I just dunno yet. I won't be shipping anything - if someone wants something, I think I have plenty of parking space. Neil (in Oregon) Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT-- Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 08:16:56 -0500 Neil, Man, I thought I had a Junque (nice word for junk) collection. You need to go into the antique electronics business or at least provide some of that stuff to the movie industry when they need old props. Paul -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 7:51 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT-- I have a couple of alternators off a pair of 1960's Dodge police cars ... How about an RCA repeater cabinet? How about an 18 x 18 x 18 box of used telephone and cat-5 wire? Anybody for some old rotary dial telephones? How about a 2 line rotary dial Key Telephone System (I think I can find it...) The 'list' grows from there ... Neil Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT--
I have a couple of alternators off a pair of 1960's Dodge police cars ... How about an RCA repeater cabinet? How about an 18 x 18 x 18 box of used telephone and cat-5 wire? Anybody for some old rotary dial telephones? How about a 2 line rotary dial Key Telephone System (I think I can find it...) The 'list' grows from there ... Neil Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT-- Parts Disease Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 12:16:32 -0400 I call it the Parts Disease... and yes I have it as well!! Could I interest anyone in a 3-axis seismograph?? Wait a minute... I think that one got away already.. a minor rumbly last year sparked interest in that item. But I do recall seeing parts for a Trailways bus down there... somewhere... A Commodore 64 computer maybe??? Cold-shrink for 1-5/8 heliax? Etc 73 Mike Perryman www.k5jmp.us -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of skipp025 Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 12:03 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Electronics and Radio types... Neil, you should seek professional help... but so should I and many other people in this group. I'm trying to make it through Junk Ender's It's a 12 step program for Radio and Electronics People who like to collect things... to excess So far, not so good. One good flea market is good for a binge. The Junk Enders folks (wife and/or family) never see the 'purge...' regardless of how small it may be. :-) cheers, skipp Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Electronics and Radio types...
Last week, I went to a garage sale ... came back with two Ohmite Ohm's Law calculators ... and a couple of small plastic boxes of hard ware which I donated to another group. Neil Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Electronics and Radio types... Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 12:19:43 -0400 (EDT) On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 16:03:08 -, skipp025 wrote: So far, not so good. One good flea market is good for a binge. The Junk Enders folks (wife and/or family) never see the 'purge...' regardless of how small it may be. It must be lesson 11 skipp, which reads something like when you go to a flea market, never, never, never, bring home more than you took to sell. I'm having a real hard time with that one myself :) Tedd Doda, VE3TJD Lazer Audio and Electronics Baden, Ontario, Canada Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Electronics and Radio types...
I am afraid I fall into that too easily ... Neil Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Electronics and Radio types... Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 12:24:21 -0400 Tedd Doda wrote: On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 16:03:08 -, skipp025 wrote: So far, not so good. One good flea market is good for a binge. The Junk Enders folks (wife and/or family) never see the 'purge...' regardless of how small it may be. It must be lesson 11 skipp, which reads something like when you go to a flea market, never, never, never, bring home more than you took to sell. I'm having a real hard time with that one myself :) Especially when you don't take anything to sell! -- Jim Barbour WD8CHL Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mobile antenna installation help/fatigued metal
Ok, I will watch ... from here ... Neil OK, I'll make a citizens arrest or write a citizens ticket to the next cop I see yakking on his radio while driving his cop car. G Dick - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 25 April, 2006 10:51 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Mobile antenna installation help/fatigued metal Thank you to all who provided great solutions on solving tearing effect from mobile mounts on thin autobody metal vehicles. It all may now be moot because, We all should be aware of legislation being proposed in many states such as Driving While Distracted or Inattentive Driving laws. These new laws will curtail mobile radio operations. CT, NY, NJ and DC already have laws prohibiting people talking on cell phones while driving. A proposal in NJ while not yet introduced for voting but being formulated: New Jersey clarifies that a distracted driver may be charged with reckless, careless or unsafe driving when so warranted, a law enforcement officer may charge a person with a violation if that person, while operating a motor vehicle, engages in distracting behavior including, but not limited to, the use of communications technology such as wireless telephones, pagers, facsimile machines, locator devices, AM/FM radios, compact disc players, audio cassette players, video players, citizens band radios, and dispatch radios; engaging in personal grooming; consuming food or beverages; reading; or tending to unsecured pets. So heads up, be careful, keep one ear to your state capitol and the other to the mobile rig while driving under those low hanging tree branches. Soon we may not need mobile antennas. Gary K2UQ Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] A couple of questions about hard line
The proper name Heliax is owned by Andrew Corp. If you don't know what type hard line you have is, don't name it Heliax. Neil - WA6KLA Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] A couple of questions about hard line Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 09:41:57 -0500 The easiest way is to put connectors on it, a load on one side and swr bridge and radio on the other and see if it loads up. You need to know what brand the heliax is. David wrote: I have some hard line I that a friend gave me and was wondering how to determine if it is any good? and how to determine what connectors to get for it? What to look for to determine this? -- Jay Urish W5GM ARRL Life Member Denton County ARRL VEC TXFCA PresidentN5ERS VP/Trustee DCARA PresidentDenton County ARES AEC Monitoring 444.850 PL-88.5 146.92 PL-110.9 Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] A couple of questions about hard line
Of course !! CG = Channel Guard - General Electric PL = Private Line - Motorola QC = Quiet Channel - RCA All are commonly referred to by CTCSS Neil - WA6KLA Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] A couple of questions about hard line Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 11:56:35 -0400 And I guess you ALWAYS use generic CTCSS instead of PL (Motorola) or CG (GE) ? GEE WHIZ Ken KY4DES -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 11:32 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] A couple of questions about hard line The proper name Heliax is owned by Andrew Corp. If you don't know what type hard line you have is, don't name it Heliax. Neil - WA6KLA Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] A couple of questions about hard line Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 09:41:57 -0500 The easiest way is to put connectors on it, a load on one side and swr bridge and radio on the other and see if it loads up. You need to know what brand the heliax is. David wrote: I have some hard line I that a friend gave me and was wondering how to determine if it is any good? and how to determine what connectors to get for it? What to look for to determine this? -- Jay Urish W5GM ARRL Life Member Denton County ARRL VEC TXFCA President N5ERS VP/Trustee DCARA President Denton County ARES AEC Monitoring 444.850 PL-88.5 146.92 PL-110.9 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: A couple of questions about hard line
Instead of a roll of non-skid? Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: A couple of questions about hard line Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 16:48:04 - Please pass me a Kleenex! --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Buley, Kenneth L \(GE Indust, ConsInd\) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And I guess you ALWAYS use generic CTCSS instead of PL (Motorola) or CG (GE) ? GEE WHIZ Ken KY4DES -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 11:32 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] A couple of questions about hard line The proper name Heliax is owned by Andrew Corp. If you don't know what type hard line you have is, don't name it Heliax. Neil - WA6KLA Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] A couple of questions about hard line
Hi, I believe the term Multi-Frequency was used to describe the early ATT inter office toll dialing scheme. The tones used were not the tones you hear on your telephone - but another completely different group. If I dig around here far enough, I may still have the information. Mike, WA6ILQ, may be able to detail this better than I or, perhaps, a retired ATT or Western Electric systems engineer. Neil - WA6KLA Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] A couple of questions about hard line Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 14:08:09 -0700 And Touch Tone (tm) is a registered trademark of ATT. Everyone else has to use DTMF or MF depending on which side of the planet you are on. On 4/24/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of course !! CG = Channel Guard - General Electric PL = Private Line - Motorola QC = Quiet Channel - RCA All are commonly referred to by CTCSS Neil - WA6KLA Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: A couple of questions about hard line
Sure thing Larry, this is great! Don't you think so? Neil Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: A couple of questions about hard line Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 14:58:24 -0700 (GMT-07:00) Ok, are we having fun now? This should be thoroughly beat into the ground now.. -Original Message- From: Dave VanHorn [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Apr 24, 2006 2:52 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: A couple of questions about hard line --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of course !! CG = Channel Guard - General Electric PL = Private Line - Motorola QC = Quiet Channel - RCA All are commonly referred to by CTCSS If this gets too big, it's going to start looking like SPAM(tm) :) Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] telco and ctcss tones
Quiet Tone ... Uh huh ... :) Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] telco and ctcss tones Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 21:59:41 - If you go back far enough, you might find someone who's heard of the book Notes on the Network, which described all the signaling standards. If you ever tried to find the book, it was quashed by the phone companies because it told hackers or freakers how to fool the Bell System I heard of the book but never had one. The phone company denied the book ever existed... I just smiled with my hand on a copy in my book case. Now it's just a part of history... ... snicker ... Neil, you forgot to mention Quiet Tone. cheers, skipp Neil BTW: Do you remember the Western Electric KS-19594 'Magicall' Dialer? I have a complete photo-copy of the manual here ... 2 photo-copies Then more info on teh dialer: Bell System Practices: Section 512-125-400; Issue 3, August 1967; ATT Co Standard 2 photo-copies Relays - Pulse Speed and Percent Break: Bell Ssytem Practice: Section 040-009-501 Issue 1, April 1967 ATT Co Standard 1 photo-copy Stapler - Arrow Bell System Practices Section 080-110-101 Issue 1, October, 1958 ATT Co Standard 2 photo-copies Stapler - Heller Bell System Practices Section 080-110-102 Issue 1, October 1958 ATT Co Standard 2 photo-copies Telephone Sets 1500 and 1554 Types Identification, Installation and Maintenance Bell System Practices Section 502-510-111 Issue 1, November 1967 ATT Co Standard 1 photo-copy Speakerphone system-3-type 1712B Telephone Set Connections and Maintenance Bell System Practices Section 512-621-474 Issue 1, August 1967 ATT Co Standard 1 photo-copy Touch-Tone Calling Receivers Type A2 SD-95287-01 and Type A3 SD-98148-01 General Descriptive Information Bell System Practices Section 975-212-110 Issue 2, November 1967 ATT Co Standard 5 photo-copies ... Note: almost looks like what we used to call the Bell System 247B Touch-Tone decoder Touch-Tone Calling Receiver, Type C1 SD-67027-01 General Descriptive Information Bell System Practices Section 975-212-130 Issue 2, November 1967 ATT Co Standard 7 photo-copies That is just one file cabinet folder ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I believe the term Multi-Frequency was used to describe the early ATT inter office toll dialing scheme. The tones used were not the tones you hear on your telephone - but another completely different group. If I dig around here far enough, I may still have the information. Mike, WA6ILQ, may be able to detail this better than I or, perhaps, a retired ATT or Western Electric systems engineer. Neil - WA6KLA Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] A couple of questions about hard line Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 14:08:09 -0700 And Touch Tone (tm) is a registered trademark of ATT. Everyone else has to use DTMF or MF depending on which side of the planet you are on. On 4/24/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of course !! CG = Channel Guard - General Electric PL = Private Line - Motorola QC = Quiet Channel - RCA All are commonly referred to by CTCSS Neil - WA6KLA Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] telco and ctcss tones
Early seventies, one of the guys in the Los Angeles area ... had his apartment telephone off-premises extension installed at his repeater site. 1) cheap auto-patch phone line 2) phone line control of his repeater Ken, one guess who ... Neil Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] telco and ctcss tones Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 15:16:03 -0700 At 09:59 PM 4/24/2006 -, you wrote: If you go back far enough, you might find someone who's heard of the book Notes on the Network, which described all the signaling standards. If you ever tried to find the book, it was quashed by the phone companies because it told hackers or freakers how to fool the Bell System ---On a somewhat related note, I remember having a leased line from MaBell (Pacific Bell in SoCal) to my repeater site, as I didn't have a great RF path to it. I used a couple of Spence's pl decks for PTT control. A subaudible tone remote, y'all! Ken - - President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of the world famous RC210 Repeater Controller and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html COME SEE US AT DAYTON 2006 in the Repeater Builder tent! Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and we offer complete repeater packages! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] A couple of questions about hard line
You're right John ... Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Acoupleofquestionsabouthardline ?? Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 18:27:47 -0400 The MF or Muti Freq. tones were even numbers 700 + 900, 700 + 1100, 900 + 1100 for 1, 2, 3 then they used 1300 1500 1700 with the other low group for the rest. This was known as In band signalling and is what the operators used on their tandem trunks (Inter office circuits) to place long distance calls. An idle circuit had 2600 tone on it also known as SF (Signalling frequency) 73 John VE3AMZ (Retired Bell Canada) Later, Motorola studied for a human ear sensitive tone to use on their pager alerting ... and also settled on 2600 Hertz. The first pagers that came out drew a lot of customer complaints - as when the customer was on a long distance call and his pager alerted him, his long distance call got dropped. Fast forward ... apparently, the 2600 Hz alert tone was the same tone Telco used as a disconnect tone. BEEP - BLAST - your call got dropped ... Neil - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 5:13 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] A couple of questions about hard line Hi, I believe the term Multi-Frequency was used to describe the early ATT inter office toll dialing scheme. The tones used were not the tones you hear on your telephone - but another completely different group. If I dig around here far enough, I may still have the information. Mike, WA6ILQ, may be able to detail this better than I or, perhaps, a retired ATT or Western Electric systems engineer. Neil - WA6KLA Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] A couple of questions about hard line Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 14:08:09 -0700 And Touch Tone (tm) is a registered trademark of ATT. Everyone else has to use DTMF or MF depending on which side of the planet you are on. On 4/24/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of course !! CG = Channel Guard - General Electric PL = Private Line - Motorola QC = Quiet Channel - RCA All are commonly referred to by CTCSS Neil - WA6KLA Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] telco and ctcss tones
As I remember, there were a couple of ways to do that anyway - without using various tones ... Neil Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] telco and ctcss tones Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 21:59:41 - If you go back far enough, you might find someone who's heard of the book Notes on the Network, which described all the signaling standards. If you ever tried to find the book, it was quashed by the phone companies because it told hackers or freakers how to fool the Bell System The phone company denied the book ever existed... I just smiled with my hand on a copy in my book case. Now it's just a part of history... Neil, you forgot to mention Quiet Tone. cheers, skipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I believe the term Multi-Frequency was used to describe the early ATT inter office toll dialing scheme. The tones used were not the tones you hear on your telephone - but another completely different group. If I dig around here far enough, I may still have the information. Mike, WA6ILQ, may be able to detail this better than I or, perhaps, a retired ATT or Western Electric systems engineer. Neil - WA6KLA Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] A couple of questions about hard line Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 14:08:09 -0700 And Touch Tone (tm) is a registered trademark of ATT. Everyone else has to use DTMF or MF depending on which side of the planet you are on. On 4/24/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of course !! CG = Channel Guard - General Electric PL = Private Line - Motorola QC = Quiet Channel - RCA All are commonly referred to by CTCSS Neil - WA6KLA Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: A couple of questions about hard line
But don't call it a ?issue ... ??? Neil Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: A couple of questions about hard line Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 10:54:33 +0800 So what is the ?issue. Sorry I could not resist. Cheers fro OZ - Original Message - From: Buley, Kenneth L (GE Indust, ConsInd) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 12:53 AM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: A couple of questions about hard line Don't call it a Kleenex unless it IS a Kleenex, otherwise, it's just a tissue !!! (sittin' back with tongue in cheek and BIG grin on face !!) Ken KY4DES -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Harold Farrenkopf Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 12:48 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: A couple of questions about hard line Please pass me a Kleenex! --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Buley, Kenneth L \(GE Indust, ConsInd\) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And I guess you ALWAYS use generic CTCSS instead of PL (Motorola) or CG (GE) ? GEE WHIZ Ken KY4DES Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Good bye!
Like Vince said ... Tx power = 100uW / receiver sens 1V ... Neil - WA6KLA Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Good bye! Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 19:30:38 -0700 At 4/23/2006 17:58, you wrote: There must have been a large metallic wall or screen between his 2 antennas for his repeater to work without degradation with 25' horizontal separation. Or else he had an amazing radio that transmitted over 50dB less sideband noise and a front end made like a crystal filter. One of my first repeaters (a Canadian Marconi, my only all-tube repeater) used two antennas about 50 ft. apart horizontally 10 ft. vertically. One of the two antennas was a quagi nulled into the other omni antenna. Only filtering I had available was one pass cavity, which I placed on the TX. It barely worked: no desense but only if the quagi was perfectly nulled into the omni. Based on this experience, I'd say two omnis 25' horizonally vertically separated using solid-state equipment probably wouldn't work without considerable desense. Bob NO6B Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Two CTCSS Tones out of One TX
If nothing else, be certain both tones are not distorted. Neil - WA6KLA Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Two CTCSS Tones out of One TX Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 18:20:43 -0700 (PDT) You will likely end up with an audible sound by using two signals at the same time. Let's say you use 77.0 Hz and 192.8 Hz. These are unrelated but you will still get the sum and difference frequencies coming out, which would give you around 115 Hz and 269 Hz. You might hear the one at 269. If you used two signals that were much closer, you could hear a slow beat note. Also, depending on the kind of decoders you use, they may not be happy seeing another sub-audible tone present along with the desired one. After saying this, I bet someone will come along and tell you that it will work, and how to do it! Bob M. == --- Kevin Natalia Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, I am wanting to use one TX from our repeater site, to link to two link RX's, these are on opposite sides of the repeater. I was thinking about having two different CTCSS tones, one for each, and then having the TX generate the two tones together. This way I can use one freq., but still have some form of control over the links by switching either, or both CTCSS tones off/on as required. Any ideas, or comments on this setup would be helpful Regards Kev. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] April AGL Digital issue- several good articles
Yes, a good magazine ... Neil Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] April AGL Digital issue- several good articles Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 14:05:12 -0400 Begging the list owners pardon, I noticed several articles in Rich Biby's rag this month that address multiple discussions that occurred recently.. grounding, selecting poly-phasors, phased antenna systems and batteries.. etc.. So I figured it couldn't hurt to pass the link along to the rest of the group. I have no ties to the magazine, other than I occasionally work Rich during the VHF and up contests and have known him for over a decade. 73 Mike Perryman www.k5jmp.us Subject: Your April AGL Digital issue has been delivered http://www.qmags.com/agl; April Highlights include: RF Hazard Protection Equipment Best Practices, Batteries and Backup Power Systems Cells Within Cells Generating Some Respect Grounding Practices for Wireless Telecom Sites Selecting Coaxial Lightning Protectors Strike Out Lightning With Single-point Grounding Accident Investigations: A Means to Improve Safety Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Anetenna Help
I use an SG-7900, which diamond tells me that they don't recommend for mobile use (where ELSE should I put it??) Do you really want an answer? g I had the same problem with the roof metal being too flexible. I used a Ryobi Weedeater blade inside, as a giant washer, and another conventional smaller washer on the top. This has been in place now for four years with no problems at all. You still don't want to hit anything low though.. With the expedition, and the SG, I top out at about 11' It hears GREAT though! Ahem ... I use a quarter wave antenna on each band with the NMO (TAD/TAE) mounts. No tearing of the metal roof in the 7 years I have had them installed. Neil - Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] That horrible noise
Would you want to believe 146.85 - 146.73 = 0.12 or 120 kHz? Neil - WA6KLA Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] That horrible noise Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 12:28:12 -0400 Guys, I think you're missing one detail here. 146.73 minus 146.85 is 1200 KHz. Twice the typical 2 meter split of 600Khz. I'm not sure EXACTLY why it's happening, but the math here has BAD written all over it. Anytime you deal with multiples of your input to output frequency separation, it's not a good thing. I wonder if the two repeaters are using the same PL tone? If so, does one, or both encode that tone as well? This could help explain putting the repeater in PL not helping to eliminate the interference. I think Ken is on the right track with an audio delay causing a howl. It's not a necessity however because of the RF delay in the possible feedback path. Realize that even at the speed of light (in free space) RF transmission and reception are not instantaneous. I think your best bet is to find a different frequency or location for one of the repeaters if possible. Scott Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 612 Barnett Rd Boswell, PA 15531 - Original Message - From: Ken Arck [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 11:24 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] That horrible noise I'd be interested in hearing the wav file you recorded, Dave But bear in mind that your comment that it's not coming from either repeater could easily be wrong. As a matter of fact, if you're running a delay in the audio path of either repeater, one of them is most definately involved. It sounds like a typical spur/mix/intermod issue to me, probably involving a 3rd party. Anyway, let's have a listen. Ken At 02:55 PM 4/21/2006 -, you wrote: Two VHF repeaters in town have been bothered by this from time to time.. The first, which only occasionally gets it, but gets it LOUD when it happens, is 146.730- The second (mine) at 146.850- is getting it almost continuously now, but weak, ranging from will open squelch (even with PL!) to Will hold squelch but won't open it Unfortunately, it's putting enough energy out at low frequencies that the PL board is seeing a tone, so PL won't save me. The noise has an echoing quality that I think is VERY distinctive, but I can't figure where it's coming from. It's not happening in either repeater, we've had the opportunity to completely shut down the machines when it's happening. The two repeaters are maybe 1000' apart. I've only started having a problem with it since replacing my antenna so that I'm no longer stone deaf. I have a 5M wav file of the noise, if anyone's interested. It sounds like broadband noise at first, but then you notice the feedback-ish sound in it. At times we've heard what seems like bits of audio in the noise. Yahoo! Groups Links - - President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of the world famous RC210 Repeater Controller and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and we offer complete repeater packages! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.1.0/269 - Release Date: 2/24/2006 Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Anetenna Help
Top of my garage door is 10' high ... Neil Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Anetenna Help Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 18:06:27 - Ahem ... I use a quarter wave antenna on each band with the NMO (TAD/TAE) mounts. No tearing of the metal roof in the 7 years I have had them installed. I suspect that I have a larger footprint though, with the SG7900 mounted. I also have a 1/4 wave whip that's useful for immediately after a storm, when the low hanging trees would otherwise cause me a panic. Either way, I can't get into my garage anyway, only 3 clearance. Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Dayton Hamvention Reply back (as requested)
Hi Tom, Didn't know you are on here too ... Neil - WA6KLA Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Dayton Hamvention Reply back (as requested) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 16:22:16 -0700 HAVE FUN, KEN TOM WO7Z AUMSVILLE,OR Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] back-up battery charging
If the Micor Power Supplies are either TPN1105A or TPN1106A yes, the outputs are adjustable - If not those model numbers, no, they can't be adjusted for specific battery charging. BTW, there are seven specific Micor Power Supplies by model number. The two mentioned above, TPN1151A, TPN1152A, TPN1110A, TPN1110B and the 12 VDC only version (I don't have the model number handy.) Hope this helps, Neil - WA6KLA Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] back-up battery charging Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 22:51:56 -0400 I am now in charge of some club repeater sites which use the standard Micor power supply. These have back-up batteries on them which are being boiled dry by the 14.9V the power supply delivers,these supplies are not the battery back-up versions. I am looking for a good solution to solve this problem,maybe someone else has been there,done that??? Are there adjustments to set the voltage on these beasts? I thought about a relay,some big diodes,but it looks ugly... 73,Lee Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] back-up battery charging
Is it capable of carrying 30 amperes or so? Neil - WA6KLA Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] back-up battery charging Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 01:11:01 EDT Also look at west mountain the rigblaster people. They have a nice charge controller that will switch over to back up batteries if you loose power to your 13.8 v supply. I have used one at my base station for six months. It works great with wet or gell cells. KB1CHU Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] back-up battery charging
Good description Lance ... and R1091 is correct. Neil - WA6KLA Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] back-up battery charging Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 10:36:54 -0400 Hello, I have several of these Micor repeaters with the TPN1105/6 battery charger supplies running and have the solution to your problem. First, the factory set the charge voltage at 14.25 volts since as standard equipment they supplied NICAD batteries for backup. Naturally, this is way to high for lead/acid. SO, all you need to do is open up the large steel plate on the backside of the power supply and locate the Voltage adjust pot on the large PC board, I thik it is R1091... then, without any batteries on line, adjust to 13.2 volts. from the 14.25. Hook your batteries back up and you are good to go!. The slide switch on the PS should be left in FLOAT position, if switched to EQUALIZE it will add +1 Volt making 14.2, this is to allow for quicker recharge after a battery power event, and should be reset after 24 hours to float. Hope this all helps you. Lance N2HBA - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 10:16 AM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] back-up battery charging If the Micor Power Supplies are either TPN1105A or TPN1106A yes, the outputs are adjustable - If not those model numbers, no, they can't be adjusted for specific battery charging. BTW, there are seven specific Micor Power Supplies by model number. The two mentioned above, TPN1151A, TPN1152A, TPN1110A, TPN1110B and the 12 VDC only version (I don't have the model number handy.) Hope this helps, Neil - WA6KLA Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] back-up battery charging Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 22:51:56 -0400 I am now in charge of some club repeater sites which use the standard Micor power supply. These have back-up batteries on them which are being boiled dry by the 14.9V the power supply delivers,these supplies are not the battery back-up versions. I am looking for a good solution to solve this problem,maybe someone else has been there,done that??? Are there adjustments to set the voltage on these beasts? I thought about a relay,some big diodes,but it looks ugly... 73,Lee Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Trade a Bird 43 (with slugs) for a telewave meter?
Oh, you seem to collect them too ... Neil Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Trade a Bird 43 (with slugs) for a telewave meter? Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 08:24:36 -0500 I was working at Bell Communications in Fort Worth, Texas when they were announced. Bob bought one around 1980 (I think) and we used it in the install shop, seems they were pretty tough and the install Monkeys did not have the slugs to drop. I still prefer a 43, like I said before I think I have 5 or is it 7, getting old and can't remember.. Paul -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of sgreact47 Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 2:24 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Trade a Bird 43 (with slugs) for a telewave meter? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Me too ... I started using a Bird 43 long before I ever heard of Telewave - about 42-43 years ago. Neil - WA6KLA As Neil once said, you can not measure the standing birds on an antenna without a B1rd 43. B1rd is pronounced B one R D! The B1rd is still one of the most important tools today. I don't think Telewave was even around back then (40+ years ago). Will Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] M-Pro
Hi, I should have some of that / those in my garage. It's just I need to think about what complete radio model number I am looking for when I get out there in a few minutes. Neil Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] M-Pro Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 10:27:21 -0500 To All: Wanted, High split, low band, Mastr-Professional, Rx strip and 100 Watt Tx strip. If any one has these in their scrap heap and will sell cheep, contact me @ seamansfh @ sbcglobal . net. Thanks Fred Seamans W5VAY Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] M-Pro
Thanks Fred, Neil Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] M-Pro Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 13:13:03 -0500 Neil: MT74---33- for a mobile. Fred - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 12:17 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] M-Pro Hi, I should have some of that / those in my garage. It's just I need to think about what complete radio model number I am looking for when I get out there in a few minutes. Neil Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] M-Pro Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 10:27:21 -0500 To All: Wanted, High split, low band, Mastr-Professional, Rx strip and 100 Watt Tx strip. If any one has these in their scrap heap and will sell cheep, contact me @ seamansfh @ sbcglobal . net. Thanks Fred Seamans W5VAY Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] M-Pro
I looked - thought I had one but don't ... all are sufffux 66, 77 88 Neil - WA6KLA Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] M-Pro Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 10:27:21 -0500 To All: Wanted, High split, low band, Mastr-Professional, Rx strip and 100 Watt Tx strip. If any one has these in their scrap heap and will sell cheep, contact me @ seamansfh @ sbcglobal . net. Thanks Fred Seamans W5VAY Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] M-Pro
You are welcome, Neil Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] M-Pro Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 16:04:23 -0500 Thank You for checking. 73's Fred - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 3:49 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] M-Pro I looked - thought I had one but don't ... all are sufffux 66, 77 88 Neil - WA6KLA Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] M-Pro Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 10:27:21 -0500 To All: Wanted, High split, low band, Mastr-Professional, Rx strip and 100 Watt Tx strip. If any one has these in their scrap heap and will sell cheep, contact me @ seamansfh @ sbcglobal . net. Thanks Fred Seamans W5VAY Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Trade a Bird 43 (with slugs) for a telewave meter?
Me too ... I started using a Bird 43 long before I ever heard of Telewave - about 42-43 years ago. Neil - WA6KLA Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Trade a Bird 43 (with slugs) for a telewave meter? Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 16:07:37 -0700 I'd take a Bird anyday over a Telewave. On 4/11/06, skipp025 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Trade a Bird 43 (with slugs) for a Telewave 44A Meter? Anyone interested in a meter trade? A Working Bird 43 meter (with some slugs) for a Telewave 44A Watt Meter. The deal can be sweeter than it looks at first glance. I have some nice extras for the meter deal depending on the condition of your working Telewave 44A Meter. Email me direct if you're seriously interested in working out a trade. thank you skipp skipp025 at yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Connecting a repeater to a PBX
I wonder how will you keep wrong extension dialers from using an FCC License required radio system? Neil - WA6KLA Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Connecting a repeater to a PBX Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 19:18:22 -0400 I am looking for a low end method (aka cheap grin) of connecting our small campus repeater to our PBX so that users can dial an extension and communicate over the repeater. We don't need to initiate access to the PBX from the repeater side. Someone told me that the CSI 5200 units could fit this bill. Any ideas? Bob Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Birdies in - Jeep Cherokee
Exellent choice! Neil Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Birdies in - Jeep Cherokee Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 00:18:24 -0500 Every 4x4 I have had for the last 20 years, when a u-joint goes bad I replace it with Spicer have never had another problem! -- Original Message -- Received: Wed, 05 Apr 2006 10:41:46 AM CDT From: skipp025 [EMAIL PROTECTED] The drive shaft and 4wd front knuckle U-Joints without grease fittings are/were my only complaint. I just had the originals replaced with new Spicer units, which have the much desired grease fittings. Doesn't have anything to do with the radio, but what the heck... Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT - Jeep Cherokee
One of your vehicles did as it was plainly noticeable from the rear. Neil Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT - Jeep Cherokee Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 00:06:37 -0500 No, I never had a spare engine in the back seat. -- Original Message -- Received: Wed, 05 Apr 2006 11:07:20 AM CDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT - Jeep Cherokee That was the one with the spare engine in the back seat? Neil Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT - Jeep Cherokee Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2006 10:56:52 -0500 I sold the Scout 11 years ago. -- Original Message -- Received: Wed, 05 Apr 2006 09:46:52 AM CDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT - Jeep Cherokee What happened to your International Scout? Neil Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT - Jeep Cherokee Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2006 02:19:52 -0500 Yes, a slightly off topic question. I recently acquired a 1992 Jeep Cherokee with the 4L engine 4 speed automatic transmission. Anyone have any experience to know if I should expect to have any RFI problems from this vehicle? I want to put the following bands of radios in it: HF (10-75 meters) 6 meters 2 meters 440 MHz 902 MHz CB (11 meters) Any other advice from those who have had Jeep Cherokees for mounting radios in the Cherokee would be appreciated. thanks Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT - Jeep Cherokee
No, Neil Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT - Jeep Cherokee Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 11:24:59 -0400 Anybody interested in starting a OT - Jeep [EMAIL PROTECTED] forum ? Ken;) -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 10:13 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT - Jeep Cherokee One of your vehicles did as it was plainly noticeable from the rear. Neil Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT - Jeep Cherokee Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 00:06:37 -0500 No, I never had a spare engine in the back seat. -- Original Message -- Received: Wed, 05 Apr 2006 11:07:20 AM CDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT - Jeep Cherokee That was the one with the spare engine in the back seat? Neil Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT - Jeep Cherokee Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2006 10:56:52 -0500 I sold the Scout 11 years ago. -- Original Message -- Received: Wed, 05 Apr 2006 09:46:52 AM CDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT - Jeep Cherokee What happened to your International Scout? Neil Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT - Jeep Cherokee Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2006 02:19:52 -0500 Yes, a slightly off topic question. I recently acquired a 1992 Jeep Cherokee with the 4L engine 4 speed automatic transmission. Anyone have any experience to know if I should expect to have any RFI problems from this vehicle? I want to put the following bands of radios in it: HF (10-75 meters) 6 meters 2 meters 440 MHz 902 MHz CB (11 meters) Any other advice from those who have had Jeep Cherokees for mounting radios in the Cherokee would be appreciated. thanks Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT - Jeep Cherokee
What happened to your International Scout? Neil Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT - Jeep Cherokee Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2006 02:19:52 -0500 Yes, a slightly off topic question. I recently acquired a 1992 Jeep Cherokee with the 4L engine 4 speed automatic transmission. Anyone have any experience to know if I should expect to have any RFI problems from this vehicle? I want to put the following bands of radios in it: HF (10-75 meters) 6 meters 2 meters 440 MHz 902 MHz CB (11 meters) Any other advice from those who have had Jeep Cherokees for mounting radios in the Cherokee would be appreciated. thanks Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT - Jeep Cherokee
Gas mileage? Say that to my 1990 Suburban - 358,000+ miles - original engine. Neil - WA6KLA Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT - Jeep Cherokee Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 07:25:57 -0400 I have a 89 with 250k miles and no noise problems. Just gas mileage problems (20+ MPG). Vincent N6OA2 - Original Message - From: JOHN MACKEY [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 3:19 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] OT - Jeep Cherokee Yes, a slightly off topic question. I recently acquired a 1992 Jeep Cherokee with the 4L engine 4 speed automatic transmission. Anyone have any experience to know if I should expect to have any RFI problems from this vehicle? I want to put the following bands of radios in it: HF (10-75 meters) 6 meters 2 meters 440 MHz 902 MHz CB (11 meters) Any other advice from those who have had Jeep Cherokees for mounting radios in the Cherokee would be appreciated. thanks Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Favorite power swr bridge
My first HiFi amplifier used a pair of 807's ... Neil - WA6KLA Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Favorite power swr bridge Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 10:39:14 -0400 What I meant to say Steve is,the 807 Tubes brings back some good memories as in 1957 I built mt first Cw Transmitter using these tubes Wesley AB8KD Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Birdies in - Jeep Cherokee
Hi John, ... snip ... The drive shaft and 4wd front knuckle U-Joints without grease fittings are/were my only complaint. I just had the originals replaced with new Spicer units, which have the much desired grease fittings. Doesn't have anything to do with the radio, but what the heck... Seems to me all new vehicles come without the Zerk (grease) fittings whenever the manufacturer can get away without installing them. Just more of something to wear out - and replace costing you, the end user, more money. In every opportunity to do so, I always buy replacement parts with the Zerk fittings attached. Hope this helps, Neil - WA6KLA cheers, skipp JOHN MACKEY [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, a slightly off topic question. I recently acquired a 1992 Jeep Cherokee with the 4L engine 4 speed automatic transmission. Anyone have any experience to know if I should expect to have any RFI problems from this vehicle? I want to put the following bands of radios in it: HF (10-75 meters) 6 meters 2 meters 440 MHz 902 MHz CB (11 meters) Any other advice from those who have had Jeep Cherokees for mounting radios in the Cherokee would be appreciated. thanks Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT - Jeep Cherokee
That was the one with the spare engine in the back seat? Neil Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT - Jeep Cherokee Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2006 10:56:52 -0500 I sold the Scout 11 years ago. -- Original Message -- Received: Wed, 05 Apr 2006 09:46:52 AM CDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT - Jeep Cherokee What happened to your International Scout? Neil Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT - Jeep Cherokee Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2006 02:19:52 -0500 Yes, a slightly off topic question. I recently acquired a 1992 Jeep Cherokee with the 4L engine 4 speed automatic transmission. Anyone have any experience to know if I should expect to have any RFI problems from this vehicle? I want to put the following bands of radios in it: HF (10-75 meters) 6 meters 2 meters 440 MHz 902 MHz CB (11 meters) Any other advice from those who have had Jeep Cherokees for mounting radios in the Cherokee would be appreciated. thanks Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Favorite power swr bridge
Sure, I have used a Telewave ... but only when one of my Bird Model 43 Wattmeters wasn't convenient. My preference? Bird Model 43 anytime. Neil - WA6KLA BTW, I have several of them too. Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Favorite power swr bridge Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 17:30:13 -0500 On Tue, 04 Apr 2006 13:26:45 -0500, Jay Urish wrote Right now I have a Bird 4410. What does everybody think about the telewave units? -- Jay Urish W5GM Birds and the Telewaves are not SWR bridges, they're directional wattmeters. With that said, I'm not fan of the Telewaves. I have two of the 44A's, but I rarely use them. The switch is a little flakey on one of the ones I have, even though it's only maybe 5 years old. The other one is a little older, and it has someting intermittant internally that results in it giving different readings on sucessive key-ups. I have several different flavors of Birds including 43's, 43P's, the digital 4391A, etc. Without fail, I always find myself grabbing one of the 43's (call me a stubborn OF, but they just work). The digital 4391 is nice, but as you might imagine, the battery is always dead at the most inopportune time. I have a Bird 4410 at one of my clients' locations, and like it for what little time I've used it. I have Coaxial Dynamics wattmeters of various types at broadcast sites, but generally speaking, if I'm the one doing the buying, I buy Bird. --- Jeff Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] LMR coax
'This page cannot be displayed.' Neil - WA6KLA Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] LMR coax Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2006 07:49:23 -0400 I sent the first one too soon! Too early, not enough coffee! Your friend Google found this: http://www.antennafactory.com/products/cable/rf/af.html 73 Glenn WB4UIV At 10:51 PM 04/02/06, you wrote: Since I see a topic on Coax I got this E-Mail from a Ham Friend Coax AF400, just like LMR400 for $0.35/ft. from http://www.antennasystems.com shipped to my door for only $34.97 next day. Has anyone heard of this Coax before Happy Repeater Building Thanks Don KA9QJG Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] RE: Don't miss it
Original Message Subject: RE: Don't miss it Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 10:37:36 -0700 On Wednesday of this week, at two minutes and three seconds after 1:00 in the morning, the time and date will be 01:02:03 04/05/06. That won't ever happen again. You may now return to your (normal ?) life. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] RE: Don't miss it
From Arcadia High School? Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] RE: Don't miss it Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2006 14:47:30 -0700 He must have - he's got a high school diploma! At 12:44 PM 04/03/06, you wrote: If it is 2006 now and we add a hundred it will be 2106 right or did miss basic math hq54 wrote: Nope, in 100 years it will be 2007, so it will be 2/3/4 07. ??? Umm..Did we already miss something ?? ;-Q Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] RE: Don't miss it
Most likely Mike Morris went there ... Neil - WA6KLA Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] RE: Don't miss it Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 15:12:43 -0700 From Arcadia High School? Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] RE: Don't miss it Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2006 14:47:30 -0700 He must have - he's got a high school diploma! At 12:44 PM 04/03/06, you wrote: If it is 2006 now and we add a hundred it will be 2106 right or did miss basic math hq54 wrote: Nope, in 100 years it will be 2007, so it will be 2/3/4 07. ??? Umm..Did we already miss something ?? ;-Q Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] LMR coax
I have never used it - preferring to Andrew Heliax for each requirement. Neil - WA6KLA Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] LMR coax Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2006 21:05:54 -0600 Recently there were some negative comments about the LMR coax. I have not used it before but was curious what problems others may have encountered while using it. Tim KB2MFS Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] TLE 1062 B
Hey, I 'think' you replied with your snail mail address ... but now I can't find that message ... Again please? Neil Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] TLE 1062 B Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 08:05:46 -0800 Anyone on the list have any info on this amp? Tom Saunders Comm Tech, City of Seattle Amateur Radio Station N7OEP 206.384.1604 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] This ought to keep you busy - Amazing Jigsaw Puzzle
Thought you might like it ... Neil Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] This ought to keep you busy - Amazing Jigsaw Puzzle Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 15:50:39 -0500 Neil, It took about 1.5 minutes... it is cute though! mike -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 3:21 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] This ought to keep you busy - Amazing Jigsaw Puzzle Ok ... Neil Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] This ought to keep you busy - Amazing Jigsaw Puzzle Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 12:46:47 -0600 My blocked senders list is getting fuller. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 12:11 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] This ought to keep you busy - Amazing Jigsaw Puzzle Original Message Subject: FW: amazing jigsaw puzzle Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 13:35:26 -0800 Not your usual jigsaw puzzle! This is amazing how it works while it is moving all the time. Can you assemble it on the gray area? http://www.brl.ntt.co.jp/people/hara/fly.swf Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Way OT, but a question...
This page cannot be found. Neil Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Way OT, but a question... Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2006 01:38:11 -0800 Some interesting boxes have been appearing on street lights in my area. Anybody know what they are? http://www.repeater-builder.com/wa6ilq/whatsthis.html (two photos totalling about 175KB) Mike WA6ILQ Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Way OT, but a question...
Larry ... on a dialup? Neil Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Way OT, but a question... Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2006 11:15:07 -0800 (GMT-08:00) Comes up fine, here, even on my slow dialup connection. Or are you just April Fooling us, Neil? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Apr 1, 2006 6:10 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Way OT, but a question... This page cannot be found. Neil Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Way OT, but a question... Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2006 01:38:11 -0800 Some interesting boxes have been appearing on street lights in my area. Anybody know what they are? http://www.repeater-builder.com/wa6ilq/whatsthis.html (two photos totalling about 175KB) Mike WA6ILQ Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] TLE 1062 B
Hi Tom, got it all copied for you ... Need an address at this point - snail mail it to you ... Neil Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] TLE 1062 B Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 08:05:46 -0800 Anyone on the list have any info on this amp? Tom Saunders Comm Tech, City of Seattle Amateur Radio Station N7OEP 206.384.1604 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] This ought to keep you busy - Amazing Jigsaw Puzzle
Original Message Subject: FW: amazing jigsaw puzzle Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 13:35:26 -0800 Not your usual jigsaw puzzle! This is amazing how it works while it is moving all the time. Can you assemble it on the gray area? http://www.brl.ntt.co.jp/people/hara/fly.swf Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] This ought to keep you busy - Amazing Jigsaw Puzzle
Ok ... Neil Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] This ought to keep you busy - Amazing Jigsaw Puzzle Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 12:46:47 -0600 My blocked senders list is getting fuller. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 12:11 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] This ought to keep you busy - Amazing Jigsaw Puzzle Original Message Subject: FW: amazing jigsaw puzzle Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 13:35:26 -0800 Not your usual jigsaw puzzle! This is amazing how it works while it is moving all the time. Can you assemble it on the gray area? http://www.brl.ntt.co.jp/people/hara/fly.swf Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] name that PA contest
Hey Mike, Do you have a copy of the manual on that PA deck? Neil Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] name that PA contest Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 00:27:46 -0500 Yup, me too... speaking of.. I dug this cont-duty PA out of the shed. Makes good power on 2m.. but have no idea what split it is supposed to be. I need to get it into service as the Mirage has crapped-out... Stamped TLD-1692D1 on the ear of the chassis. The board has a barcode of TLD9392A. I am pretty sure it is VHF, but anybody got an idea of what split? My manual is s old, that it is chisled on stone tablets, and this number doesn't appear. Closest match was TLD1690A.. 132-150MHz split. 73 Mike K5JMP www.k5jmp.us -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 11:31 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Radio Shack store closings Seems to me, the last time I visited a RS store, there wasn't more than fuses and a few miscellaneous parts ... nothing to try to build something with. My 'junque box' has way more stuff parts wise than any RS store I have visited in years. Neil - WA6KLA Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] name that PA contest
Do you want one? Or just how to connect it up? Neil Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] name that PA contest Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 06:59:55 -0500 Neil, Sorry, I'm afraid not. I have a ancient manual for VHF.. but that PA isn't in it. 73 Mike K5JMP www.k5jmp.us -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 5:57 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] name that PA contest Hey Mike, Do you have a copy of the manual on that PA deck? Neil Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] name that PA contest Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 00:27:46 -0500 Yup, me too... speaking of.. I dug this cont-duty PA out of the shed. Makes good power on 2m.. but have no idea what split it is supposed to be. I need to get it into service as the Mirage has crapped-out... Stamped TLD-1692D1 on the ear of the chassis. The board has a barcode of TLD9392A. I am pretty sure it is VHF, but anybody got an idea of what split? My manual is s old, that it is chisled on stone tablets, and this number doesn't appear. Closest match was TLD1690A.. 132-150MHz split. 73 Mike K5JMP www.k5jmp.us -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 11:31 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Radio Shack store closings Seems to me, the last time I visited a RS store, there wasn't more than fuses and a few miscellaneous parts ... nothing to try to build something with. My 'junque box' has way more stuff parts wise than any RS store I have visited in years. Neil - WA6KLA Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] name that PA contest
OK, will just go looking for the TLE1062B diagram for that other guy. 73 / Neil - WA6KLA Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] name that PA contest Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 07:04:48 -0500 Just needed to know what split it was before I hang it on a 2m machine the club owns. But thanks.. 73 Mike K5JMP www.k5jmp.us -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 6:55 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] name that PA contest Do you want one? Or just how to connect it up? Neil Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] name that PA contest Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 06:59:55 -0500 Neil, Sorry, I'm afraid not. I have a ancient manual for VHF.. but that PA isn't in it. 73 Mike K5JMP www.k5jmp.us -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 5:57 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] name that PA contest Hey Mike, Do you have a copy of the manual on that PA deck? Neil Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] name that PA contest Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 00:27:46 -0500 Yup, me too... speaking of.. I dug this cont-duty PA out of the shed. Makes good power on 2m.. but have no idea what split it is supposed to be. I need to get it into service as the Mirage has crapped-out... Stamped TLD-1692D1 on the ear of the chassis. The board has a barcode of TLD9392A. I am pretty sure it is VHF, but anybody got an idea of what split? My manual is s old, that it is chisled on stone tablets, and this number doesn't appear. Closest match was TLD1690A.. 132-150MHz split. 73 Mike K5JMP www.k5jmp.us -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 11:31 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Radio Shack store closings Seems to me, the last time I visited a RS store, there wasn't more than fuses and a few miscellaneous parts ... nothing to try to build something with. My 'junque box' has way more stuff parts wise than any RS store I have visited in years. Neil - WA6KLA Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] name that PA contest
Found it - all 15 each 8 1/2 x 11 pages of it ... Neil Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] name that PA contest Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 07:01:03 -0800 OK, will just go looking for the TLE1062B diagram for that other guy. 73 / Neil - WA6KLA Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] name that PA contest Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 07:04:48 -0500 Just needed to know what split it was before I hang it on a 2m machine the club owns. But thanks.. 73 Mike K5JMP www.k5jmp.us -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 6:55 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] name that PA contest Do you want one? Or just how to connect it up? Neil Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] name that PA contest Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 06:59:55 -0500 Neil, Sorry, I'm afraid not. I have a ancient manual for VHF.. but that PA isn't in it. 73 Mike K5JMP www.k5jmp.us -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 5:57 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] name that PA contest Hey Mike, Do you have a copy of the manual on that PA deck? Neil Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] name that PA contest Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 00:27:46 -0500 Yup, me too... speaking of.. I dug this cont-duty PA out of the shed. Makes good power on 2m.. but have no idea what split it is supposed to be. I need to get it into service as the Mirage has crapped-out... Stamped TLD-1692D1 on the ear of the chassis. The board has a barcode of TLD9392A. I am pretty sure it is VHF, but anybody got an idea of what split? My manual is s old, that it is chisled on stone tablets, and this number doesn't appear. Closest match was TLD1690A.. 132-150MHz split. 73 Mike K5JMP www.k5jmp.us -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 11:31 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Radio Shack store closings Seems to me, the last time I visited a RS store, there wasn't more than fuses and a few miscellaneous parts ... nothing to try to build something with. My 'junque box' has way more stuff parts wise than any RS store I have visited in years. Neil - WA6KLA Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: AGT = IMTS ?
I guess you could call it a a by-product of having a mobile telephone ... Each area of the mobile telephone service had, of course, its own mobile (telephone) operator. She would call directory assistance for you, if necessary, and connect you with your requested number Each area also had its own on-duty 'technician' in case of a difficulty. This was a live warm body who actually knew what a two way radio looked like. I was impressed !!! One Friday evening in the early seventies I was headed toward San Jose, California for the weekend. From the Los Angeles area, this was a several hour drive. (I had made the drive in less than five hours once - but that is another story.) As I got closer to San Jose, I finally got tired ... so I called the Salinas technician via the mobile operator and chatted with him all the way to my destination. The less than five hour drive story is for another time ... Neil Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: AGT = IMTS ? Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 00:21:10 - --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was on mobile telephone in the late sixties / early seventies on lo-band - the ZM channel. My 'mobile telephone' consisted of a Motorola 80-D (30 watts output) installed in the trunk of my car ... connected to the old mechanical Secode Decoder. ssnip Neil, thanks for the memories I remember the ZM' phone quite well. I remember you 'keying up' from just about anywhre in So Cal, even in S J valley. Those WERE the days. Will Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Dayton Hamvention
I thought you were sold out on the hats ... Neil Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Dayton Hamvention Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 21:12:22 -0500 Jim B. wrote: So, I realize it's a bit early yet, but with all this talk of Dayton, what kinds of things should we hope to see at the RB table? Repeaters Repeaters... Repeaters... Oh, and did I mention Repeaters And Repeater stuff, lots of repeater stuff... lots and lots of repeater stuff Repeater Builder Antennas AP-50's Micor stuff Mastr II stuff maybe some hats... did I say repeaters? GRIN! Stuff like on this page: http://www.repeater-builder.com/products/ kuggie Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
