Re: [Repeater-Builder] 6 M Gain Antenna

2005-07-07 Thread Jim B.
Joe wrote:

 Do you mean Ringo Ranger or Ringo Rangeless? ;-)
 
 At 08:22 PM 7/6/2005 +0100, you wrote:
 
BTW I think Cushcraft make a 6m ringo ranger which is quite large so may not
be suited to an exposed site but supposed to work very well.

air-cooled dummy load

btw, just an afternote, the 6M and 10M versions are just Ringos, not 
Rangers. Just an end-fed dipole.

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] 6 M Gain Antenna

2005-07-07 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

for a good 6 meter antenna look at http://www.krecoantennas.com/
the owner is a ham and will build it to your frequency. the antennas are bullet 
proof and he has seperate prices for fellow hams. 

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[Repeater-Builder] 6 M Gain Antenna

2005-07-06 Thread Walter Wenzel
Does anyone have a suggestion for a good 6m repeater antenna from some 
one that is still able to supply one?  All I can seem to find is unity 
gain antennae.  Looking to put a 6M repeater back on the air as soon 
as we can get antennae for a split site.  We will be running RCA 
radios.

Walter, KA2RGI






 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] 6 M Gain Antenna

2005-07-06 Thread steve
Hi

have you considered maybe a tri band ant, ie 2,70cm and 6mtrs. Gain on 6mtrs
is about 3dB. Here in the UK I use a Moonraker tri band, works fine

73

Steve M1SWB
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 Does anyone have a suggestion for a good 6m repeater antenna from some
 one that is still able to supply one?  All I can seem to find is unity
 gain antennae.  Looking to put a 6M repeater back on the air as soon
 as we can get antennae for a split site.  We will be running RCA
 radios.

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] 6 M Gain Antenna

2005-07-06 Thread Russ Stafford
Sinclair makes two one with a 3 dbd gain
You should be able to get Cook Tower phone number off the repeater builder 
web page they have both in stock. I bought one from them back in the fall 
and it work very well.

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 Does anyone have a suggestion for a good 6m repeater antenna from some
 one that is still able to supply one?  All I can seem to find is unity
 gain antennae.  Looking to put a 6M repeater back on the air as soon
 as we can get antennae for a split site.  We will be running RCA
 radios.

 Walter, KA2RGI






 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] 6 M Gain Antenna

2005-07-06 Thread Matt Beasant
Beware, all the antenna adverts I see in the UK mags quote dBi !!!  3dBi 
gain over a dipole is not worth mentioning!

When you consider that the folded dipoles I have on my repeater are almost 8 
feet long, compare that with your tribander - you aint gonna get any gain 
without the extra length IMHO.

Matt
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Hi

have you considered maybe a tri band ant, ie 2,70cm and 6mtrs. Gain on 6mtrs
is about 3dB. Here in the UK I use a Moonraker tri band, works fine

73

Steve M1SWB
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Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 5:59 PM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] 6 M Gain Antenna


 Does anyone have a suggestion for a good 6m repeater antenna from some
 one that is still able to supply one?  All I can seem to find is unity
 gain antennae.  Looking to put a 6M repeater back on the air as soon
 as we can get antennae for a split site.  We will be running RCA
 radios.

 Walter, KA2RGI







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Re: [Repeater-Builder] 6 M Gain Antenna

2005-07-06 Thread Steve
Hi

well 3dB is double the power 6dB is 4 times etc, etc
So in theory 20w into ant = 40w ERP
Yes I know 50Mhz folded dipoles are big. I was toying with making one, but
never did

73

Steve M1SWB
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 Beware, all the antenna adverts I see in the UK mags quote dBi !!!  3dBi
 gain over a dipole is not worth mentioning!

 When you consider that the folded dipoles I have on my repeater are almost
8
 feet long, compare that with your tribander - you aint gonna get any gain
 without the extra length IMHO.

 Matt
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 Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 6:25 PM
 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] 6 M Gain Antenna


 Hi

 have you considered maybe a tri band ant, ie 2,70cm and 6mtrs. Gain on
6mtrs
 is about 3dB. Here in the UK I use a Moonraker tri band, works fine

 73

 Steve M1SWB
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 Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 5:59 PM
 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] 6 M Gain Antenna


  Does anyone have a suggestion for a good 6m repeater antenna from some
  one that is still able to supply one?  All I can seem to find is unity
  gain antennae.  Looking to put a 6M repeater back on the air as soon
  as we can get antennae for a split site.  We will be running RCA
  radios.
 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] 6 M Gain Antenna

2005-07-06 Thread Jim B.
Steve wrote:

 Hi
 
 well 3dB is double the power 6dB is 4 times etc, etc
 So in theory 20w into ant = 40w ERP
 Yes I know 50Mhz folded dipoles are big. I was toying with making one, but
 never did
 
 73
 
 Steve M1SWB

But dB is relative. And the dBi means that it is referenced to an 
isotropic source, where GOOD manufacturers reference a dipole. 3dBi is 
less then 1dBd (dB gain over a dipole). So that 3dB antenna is about the 
same as a regular dipole. That's the short answer anyway.
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] 6 M Gain Antenna

2005-07-06 Thread N9LLO




The DB probucts folded dipoles are good. Good job keeping the RCA stuff on the air!

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] 6 M Gain Antenna

2005-07-06 Thread Bob Dengler
At 7/6/2005 12:51 PM, you wrote:
Steve wrote:

  Hi
 
  well 3dB is double the power 6dB is 4 times etc, etc
  So in theory 20w into ant = 40w ERP
  Yes I know 50Mhz folded dipoles are big. I was toying with making one, but
  never did
 
  73
 
  Steve M1SWB

But dB is relative. And the dBi means that it is referenced to an
isotropic source, where GOOD manufacturers reference a dipole.

Good manufacturers will simply indicate what the reference is (dBi or 
dBd).  Personally I prefer dBi because you don't have to add in the 2.12 dB 
to calculate EIRP.

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] 6 M Gain Antenna

2005-07-06 Thread Burt Lang
Hi guys

With all this talk about 6m antennas, can I mention that I have a pair 
of Sinclair SRL-110 dipoles to dispose of.  They were used in a 
commercial system at 48/49 MHz.  I have not tested them at 52/53 MHz but 
the SRL-x10 series antennas are usually quite broadband.

The catch is that they are large and I don't want to ship them anywhere. 
  So pick-up only - near Montreal, Quebec.  If interested, contact me 
off-list.

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] 6 M Gain Antenna

2005-07-06 Thread Chuck Kelsey
Decibel Products or Sinclair. Serious antennas. Folded dipoles - but you'll 
need some tower.

Chuck
WB2EDV



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Subject: [Repeater-Builder] 6 M Gain Antenna


 Does anyone have a suggestion for a good 6m repeater antenna from some
 one that is still able to supply one?  All I can seem to find is unity
 gain antennae.  Looking to put a 6M repeater back on the air as soon
 as we can get antennae for a split site.  We will be running RCA
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 Walter, KA2RGI







 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] 6 M Gain Antenna

2005-07-06 Thread Joe
Do you mean Ringo Ranger or Ringo Rangeless? ;-)

At 08:22 PM 7/6/2005 +0100, you wrote:
BTW I think Cushcraft make a 6m ringo ranger which is quite large so may not
be suited to an exposed site but supposed to work very well.







 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] 6 M Gain Antenna

2005-07-06 Thread DCFluX
Ringo, Negitave.  --W3KKC

On 7/6/05, Joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Do you mean Ringo Ranger or Ringo Rangeless? ;-)
 
 At 08:22 PM 7/6/2005 +0100, you wrote:
 BTW I think Cushcraft make a 6m ringo ranger which is quite large so may not
 be suited to an exposed site but supposed to work very well.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] 6 M Gain Antenna

2005-07-06 Thread Chuck Kelsey
The Ringo for 6 is a BAD choice for repeater use.

Chuck
WB2EDV




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 Do you mean Ringo Ranger or Ringo Rangeless? ;-)

 At 08:22 PM 7/6/2005 +0100, you wrote:
BTW I think Cushcraft make a 6m ringo ranger which is quite large so may 
not
be suited to an exposed site but supposed to work very well.
 





 
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