Re: [Repeater-Builder] Advice on Business Band repeater
GROL is a Boat Airplane Radio license, but makes a good resume' thing for some employers and a Lifetime license. maybe you may have to fix the mike on one of those radios or install it or write off a OK signature for FCC compliance. What the hey those who don't know what a FCC rule book is to the non tech people you just impressed you know something thats all. Mark Holman AB8RU *** IT Student * Happy Holidays - Original Message - From: Benjamin Naber [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2004 6:08 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Advice on Business Band repeater If a guy were to have a GROL license and he built his own repeater to meet type acceptance(or close to), would it be classified as being so? ~Benjamin, KB9LFZ --- KI4AWK [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am a ham who is contemplating building a business-band repeater. I have a few questions that maybe you guys can answer and save me hours of reading and searching. I want to do this so that my family can stay in touch. The business license would be in the name of the family farm. I know that not everyone in my family is interested in radio enough to become a ham, but would definitely own a radio if they could communicate reliably. Cell phones are horrible. I do not want to use GMRS frequencies for three reasons: I am not impressed with the policing of the GMRS frequencies. Anyone can get a GMRS radio, and the line between GMRS and FRS and CB seems to be very blurry. I don't want my mom to be the one listening when someone starts being rude on our frequency. Reason two is that I want to be able to hook up a phone patch. This is strictly forbidden in GMRS. Reason three is the type acceptance rule that prohibits several quality radios from being used in GMRS. My questions: What kind of cost am I looking at for a repeater pair license? Does each user need a separate license? cost per user? Can I do the research and find a frequency pair myself, or do I have to go through a coordinator? (if so, what does that cost?) (We live in a rural area, Thomasville, GA. Finding a pair should not be hard. I am hoping for a pair in the 460 band, as I have a very nice mastr II for that band.) I have been monitoring a specific frequency, and did research through the FCC website on it for users in my area. What else should I do to get started? John Clark - KI4AWK = - ~Ben, KB9LFZ Got your radio on and listening? Then KEY the radio and say that you are! LET US USE WHAT WE HAVE!! __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Advice on Business Band repeater
If a guy were to have a GROL license and he built his own repeater to meet type acceptance(or close to), would it be classified as being so? ~Benjamin, KB9LFZ --- KI4AWK [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am a ham who is contemplating building a business-band repeater. I have a few questions that maybe you guys can answer and save me hours of reading and searching. I want to do this so that my family can stay in touch. The business license would be in the name of the family farm. I know that not everyone in my family is interested in radio enough to become a ham, but would definitely own a radio if they could communicate reliably. Cell phones are horrible. I do not want to use GMRS frequencies for three reasons: I am not impressed with the policing of the GMRS frequencies. Anyone can get a GMRS radio, and the line between GMRS and FRS and CB seems to be very blurry. I don't want my mom to be the one listening when someone starts being rude on our frequency. Reason two is that I want to be able to hook up a phone patch. This is strictly forbidden in GMRS. Reason three is the type acceptance rule that prohibits several quality radios from being used in GMRS. My questions: What kind of cost am I looking at for a repeater pair license? Does each user need a separate license? cost per user? Can I do the research and find a frequency pair myself, or do I have to go through a coordinator? (if so, what does that cost?) (We live in a rural area, Thomasville, GA. Finding a pair should not be hard. I am hoping for a pair in the 460 band, as I have a very nice mastr II for that band.) I have been monitoring a specific frequency, and did research through the FCC website on it for users in my area. What else should I do to get started? John Clark - KI4AWK = - ~Ben, KB9LFZ Got your radio on and listening? Then KEY the radio and say that you are! LET US USE WHAT WE HAVE!! __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Advice on Business Band repeater
NO. Type acceptance has nothing to do with how someone built the system on what license the tech had. BTW - the GROL is not required for a tech to work on part 90 or 95 systems. -- Original Message -- Received: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 11:05:05 PM CST From: Benjamin Naber [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Advice on Business Band repeater If a guy were to have a GROL license and he built his own repeater to meet type acceptance(or close to), would it be classified as being so? ~Benjamin, KB9LFZ --- KI4AWK [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am a ham who is contemplating building a business-band repeater. I have a few questions that maybe you guys can answer and save me hours of reading and searching. I want to do this so that my family can stay in touch. The business license would be in the name of the family farm. I know that not everyone in my family is interested in radio enough to become a ham, but would definitely own a radio if they could communicate reliably. Cell phones are horrible. I do not want to use GMRS frequencies for three reasons: I am not impressed with the policing of the GMRS frequencies. Anyone can get a GMRS radio, and the line between GMRS and FRS and CB seems to be very blurry. I don't want my mom to be the one listening when someone starts being rude on our frequency. Reason two is that I want to be able to hook up a phone patch. This is strictly forbidden in GMRS. Reason three is the type acceptance rule that prohibits several quality radios from being used in GMRS. My questions: What kind of cost am I looking at for a repeater pair license? Does each user need a separate license? cost per user? Can I do the research and find a frequency pair myself, or do I have to go through a coordinator? (if so, what does that cost?) (We live in a rural area, Thomasville, GA. Finding a pair should not be hard. I am hoping for a pair in the 460 band, as I have a very nice mastr II for that band.) I have been monitoring a specific frequency, and did research through the FCC website on it for users in my area. What else should I do to get started? John Clark - KI4AWK = - ~Ben, KB9LFZ Got your radio on and listening? Then KEY the radio and say that you are! LET US USE WHAT WE HAVE!! __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Advice on Business Band repeater
Just go to http://www.fcc.gov do some research, forms fees etc. and some paperwork. if you do your own matienance etc. I would sugguest getting with the local 2 way shop for ideas etc.. Mark Holman AB8RU*** IT Student *Happy Holidays - Original Message - From: KI4AWK To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 6:55 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Advice on Business Band repeater I am a ham who is contemplatingbuilding a business-band repeater. I have a few questions that maybe you guys can answer and save me hours of reading and searching. I want to do this so that my family can stay in touch. The business license would be in the name of the family farm. I know that not everyone inmy family is interested in radio enough to become a ham, but would definitely own a radio if they could communicate reliably. Cell phones are horrible. I do not want to use GMRS frequencies for three reasons: I am not impressed with the policing of the GMRS frequencies. Anyone can get a GMRS radio, and the line between GMRS and FRS and CB seems to be very blurry. I don't want my mom to be the one listening when someone starts being rude on our frequency. Reason two is that I want to be able to hook up a phone patch. This is strictly forbidden in GMRS. Reason three is the "type acceptance" rule that prohibits several quality radios from being used in GMRS. My questions: What kind of cost am I looking at for a repeater pair license? Does each user need a separate license? cost per user? Can I do the research and find a frequency pair myself, or do I have to go through a coordinator? (if so, what does that cost?) (We live in a rural area, Thomasville, GA. Finding a pair should not be hard. I am hoping for a pair in the 460 band, as I have a very nice mastr II for that band.) I have been monitoring a specific frequency, and did research through the FCC website on it for users in my area. What else should I do to get started? John Clark - KI4AWK Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[Repeater-Builder] Advice on Business Band repeater
I am a ham who is contemplatingbuilding a business-band repeater. I have a few questions that maybe you guys can answer and save me hours of reading and searching. I want to do this so that my family can stay in touch. The business license would be in the name of the family farm. I know that not everyone inmy family is interested in radio enough to become a ham, but would definitely own a radio if they could communicate reliably. Cell phones are horrible. I do not want to use GMRS frequencies for three reasons: I am not impressed with the policing of the GMRS frequencies. Anyone can get a GMRS radio, and the line between GMRS and FRS and CB seems to be very blurry. I don't want my mom to be the one listening when someone starts being rude on our frequency. Reason two is that I want to be able to hook up a phone patch. This is strictly forbidden in GMRS. Reason three is the "type acceptance" rule that prohibits several quality radios from being used in GMRS. My questions: What kind of cost am I looking at for a repeater pair license? Does each user need a separate license? cost per user? Can I do the research and find a frequency pair myself, or do I have to go through a coordinator? (if so, what does that cost?) (We live in a rural area, Thomasville, GA. Finding a pair should not be hard. I am hoping for a pair in the 460 band, as I have a very nice mastr II for that band.) I have been monitoring a specific frequency, and did research through the FCC website on it for users in my area. What else should I do to get started? John Clark - KI4AWK Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Advice on Business Band repeater
Are you eligible under part 90 to hold a license in the Business Radio Service, ie, 90.75 a 1, statement of eligibility? From: KI4AWK [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 5:55 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Advice on Business Band repeater I am a ham who is contemplatingbuilding a business-band repeater. I have a few questions that maybe you guys can answer and save me hours of reading and searching. [Steve Bosshard (NU5D)] Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.818 / Virus Database: 556 - Release Date: 12/17/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.818 / Virus Database: 556 - Release Date: 12/17/2004
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Advice on Business Band repeater
John The same type acceptance rules that you mention for GMRS also apply to a part 90 repeater. Home built repeaters do not carry a type acceptance for part 90. The only service that can use equipment that is not type accepted is the amateur radio service and possibly the federal services such as military, and the three letter agencies. From CFR 1, 1102 The fees appear to be: Fee Payment type ActionFCC Form No. amount code Address 6. Land Mobile PMRS a. New or Renewal/Modification 601 159.. 50.00 PALR *Federal Communications (Frequencies below 470 MHzCommission, Wireless (except 220 MHz). Bureau Applications, P.O. Box 358130, Pittsburgh, PA 15251-5130. 73 Glenn WB4UIV 06:55 AM 12/21/04, you wrote: I am a ham who is contemplating building a business-band repeater. I have a few questions that maybe you guys can answer and save me hours of reading and searching. I want to do this so that my family can stay in touch. The business license would be in the name of the family farm. I know that not everyone in my family is interested in radio enough to become a ham, but would definitely own a radio if they could communicate reliably. Cell phones are horrible. I do not want to use GMRS frequencies for three reasons: I am not impressed with the policing of the GMRS frequencies. Anyone can get a GMRS radio, and the line between GMRS and FRS and CB seems to be very blurry. I don't want my mom to be the one listening when someone starts being rude on our frequency. Reason two is that I want to be able to hook up a phone patch. This is strictly forbidden in GMRS. Reason three is the type acceptance rule that prohibits several quality radios from being used in GMRS. snip John Clark - KI4AWK -- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: * http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/Yahoo! Terms of Service. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Advice on Business Band repeater
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From:
KI4AWK
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 5:55
AM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Advice on
Business Band repeater
I am a ham who is contemplatingbuilding a
business-band repeater. I have a few questions that maybe you guys can
answer and save me hours of reading and searching.
I want to do this so that my family can stay in
touch. The business license would be in the name of the family farm.
I know that not everyone inmy family is
interested in radio enough to become a ham, but would definitely own a radio
if they could communicate reliably. Cell phones are horrible.
I do not want to use GMRS frequencies for three
reasons: I am not impressed with the policing of the GMRS frequencies.
Anyone can get a GMRS radio, and the line between GMRS and FRS and CB seems
to be very blurry. I don't want my mom to be the one listening when someone
starts being rude on our frequency. Reason two is that I want to be able to
hook up a phone patch. This is strictly forbidden in GMRS. Reason three is
the "type acceptance" rule that prohibits several quality radios from being
used in GMRS.
My questions:
What kind of cost am I looking at for a
repeater pair license?
Does each user need a separate license? cost
per user?
Can I do the research and find a frequency pair
myself, or do I have to go through a coordinator? (if so, what does that
cost?)
(We live in a rural area, Thomasville, GA.
Finding a pair should not be hard. I am hoping for a pair in the 460 band,
as I have a very nice mastr II for that band.)
I have been monitoring a specific frequency,
and did research through the FCC website on it for users in my
area.
What else should I do to get
started?
John Clark -
KI4AWK
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Advice on Business Band repeater
If the proposed operation will be used to conduct the business activities of your farm, then you are eligible. James Steve Bosshard (NU5D) wrote: Are you eligible under part 90 to hold a license in the Business Radio Service, ie, 90.75 a 1, statement of eligibility? From: KI4AWK [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 5:55 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Advice on Business Band repeater I am a ham who is contemplatingbuilding a business-band repeater. I have a few questions that maybe you guys can answer and save me hours of reading and searching. [Steve Bosshard (NU5D)] --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.818 / Virus Database: 556 - Release Date: 12/17/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.818 / Virus Database: 556 - Release Date: 12/17/2004 Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Advice on Business Band repeater
A farm is a business. If it's a family farm, the entire family can be considered employees. Besides, it doesn't take much to get a business license. There are even public safety entities on the biz band (FDs and EMS services are considered businesses, too). The main cost will be for coordination. You will have to contact PCIA for a coordinated pair. The actual license fee is by comparison small. Joe M. Steve Bosshard (NU5D) wrote: Are you eligible under part 90 to hold a license in the Business Radio Service, ie, 90.75 a 1, statement of eligibility? -- From: KI4AWK [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 5:55 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Advice on Business Band repeater I am a ham who is contemplating building a business-band repeater. I have a few questions that maybe you guys can answer and save me hours of reading and searching. ยท [Steve Bosshard (NU5D)] --- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.818 / Virus Database: 556 - Release Date: 12/17/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.818 / Virus Database: 556 - Release Date: 12/17/2004 --- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.2 - Release Date: 12/20/2004 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.2 - Release Date: 12/20/2004 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
