[Repeater-Builder] An intermod problem

2008-12-29 Thread Jed Barton
Hey guys,

Alright, need some advice on this one.
I have a uhf, and a little big from what we can tell has been in the
receiver for a long time.
The output of my machine is 449.225 with an input of 444.225.
We're running a wacom wp678 duplexer, which is tuned up just fine.
One problem, right next to my repeater is the evil paging transmitter
outputting on 152.6.
As soon as it keys up, with a weak signal on my receiver, it totally
desenses it.
I can have a signal that is dfq with no paging transmitter, but as soon as
it keys up, it is weak.
Any ideas for getting rid of this?
The third harmonic of the paging transmitter is 457.8.
Thoughts?

Thanks,
Jed




Re: [Repeater-Builder] An intermod problem

2008-12-29 Thread Paul Plack
The desense is probably caused by broadband noise at the paging transmitter's 
third harmonic. A notch cavity on the output of the paging transmitter might be 
the lowest-loss, most cost-effective remedy.

Time to find out if you're a diplomat!

73,
Paul, AE4KR

  - Original Message - 
  From: Jed Barton 
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  Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 4:59 PM
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] An intermod problem


  Hey guys,

  Alright, need some advice on this one.
  I have a uhf, and a little big from what we can tell has been in the
  receiver for a long time.
  The output of my machine is 449.225 with an input of 444.225.
  We're running a wacom wp678 duplexer, which is tuned up just fine.
  One problem, right next to my repeater is the evil paging transmitter
  outputting on 152.6.
  As soon as it keys up, with a weak signal on my receiver, it totally
  desenses it.
  I can have a signal that is dfq with no paging transmitter, but as soon as
  it keys up, it is weak.
  Any ideas for getting rid of this?
  The third harmonic of the paging transmitter is 457.8.
  Thoughts?

  Thanks,
  Jed



   

[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Intermod Problem

2005-05-23 Thread dgrapach
I have a 440 repeater transmitting 442.850 and receiving on 447.850.  
We are hearing interference on the repeater from 453.550 which we 
confirmed on a scanner.  This 453.550 frequency is not at the same 
site as the repeater (it isn't extremely strong), however there are 
many other transmitters on the same hill.   We figured that maybe the 
453.550 frequency is mixing with the transmitter frequency of 442.850 
to give 10.7MHz, which is the first IF of the receiver.  The receiver 
is a Hamtronics R304.  The duplexers are Wacom WP-678-R2. 

Originally, I was thinking of buying a bandpass filter such as one 
from DCI, but it seems that this would not attenuate the 453MHz 
frequency very much.  Could the transmitter signal be getting into the 
receiver and mixing there? 

What could be causing this problem and how would I correct it?

 








 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Intermod Problem

2005-05-23 Thread mch
If that is the issue, it seems the easiest way would be to replace the
receiver with something that doesn't have a 10.7 MHz IF. Or, even with a
higher quality receiver.

Joe M.

dgrapach wrote:
 
 I have a 440 repeater transmitting 442.850 and receiving on 447.850.
 We are hearing interference on the repeater from 453.550 which we
 confirmed on a scanner.  This 453.550 frequency is not at the same
 site as the repeater (it isn't extremely strong), however there are
 many other transmitters on the same hill.   We figured that maybe the
 453.550 frequency is mixing with the transmitter frequency of 442.850
 to give 10.7MHz, which is the first IF of the receiver.  The receiver
 is a Hamtronics R304.  The duplexers are Wacom WP-678-R2.
 
 Originally, I was thinking of buying a bandpass filter such as one
 from DCI, but it seems that this would not attenuate the 453MHz
 frequency very much.  Could the transmitter signal be getting into the
 receiver and mixing there?
 
 What could be causing this problem and how would I correct it?
 
 
 
 
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