Re: [Repeater-Builder] DB Products VHF UHF on same mast?

2009-07-22 Thread Jim Brown
I operate an antenna with a full size DB-224 and an 8 dipole 440 antenna on the 
same mast and found that the 2 meter transmitter does not bother the 440 
receiver, but I do get some desense with the 440 transmitter into the 2 meter 
radio.  An extra bandpass cavity on the 2 meter receiver cleared that up.  GE 
Mastr II on both bands.

I think that the 2 meter dipoles can absorb more power from the 440 antennas 
than the other way around, since the third harmonic is resonant on the 2 meter 
dipoles.

I have also operated a DB-224 on 440 with some success.

I tried a diplexer to combine the two antennas to one feedline without much 
success.  I wound up using a separate feedline for each antenna and it worked 
much better.

73 - Jim  W5ZIT

--- On Mon, 7/20/09, tahrens301 tahr...@swtexas.net wrote:

From: tahrens301 tahr...@swtexas.net
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] DB Products VHF  UHF on same mast?
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, July 20, 2009, 10:11 PM






 





  I've got a DB-224 that is going up the tower in a

while when I get the hardline, but control issues 

have changed from land line to 440mhz control.  



So I need 2 antennas.



Today I saw a hybrid DB antenna, effectively a 224, plus

a 16 element DB, all on the same mast.



Is this something that can be done without having each

antenna interact with the other?  Sounds like a good idea

to me.



Just curious,



Thanks,



Tim  W5FN




 

  




 

















  

RE: [Repeater-Builder] DB Products VHF UHF on same mast?

2009-07-21 Thread Mike Mullarkey
If you have a VHF 224 just take a DB411 UHF and mount on the opposite side
of the mast 180deg from the VHF loops. We do it all the time out here and
works great. Just run two coax cables and all is nice and neat. Best of both
worlds, you get two antennas on the same mast without using another 10 or so
feet of tower space. 

 

There is only one catch, you may want to top support the DB224 antenna since
you are adding additional loops.

 

Mike

 

 

Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ

6886 Sage Ave

Firestone, Co 80504

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I've got a DB-224 that is going up the tower in a
while when I get the hardline, but control issues 
have changed from land line to 440mhz control. 

So I need 2 antennas.

Today I saw a hybrid DB antenna, effectively a 224, plus
a 16 element DB, all on the same mast.

Is this something that can be done without having each
antenna interact with the other? Sounds like a good idea
to me.

Just curious,

Thanks,

Tim W5FN



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Re: [Repeater-Builder] DB Products VHF UHF on same mast?

2009-07-21 Thread Mike Morris WA6ILQ
Is your control a receive only, or is it a UHF control repeater?

I've seen a 2m antenna used to feed both a 2m receiver and
a UHF receiver.  After all, the third harmonic of 147 MHz is
441 mhz.



At 08:11 PM 07/20/09, you wrote:
I've got a DB-224 that is going up the tower in a
while when I get the hardline, but control issues
have changed from land line to 440mhz control.

So I need 2 antennas.

Today I saw a hybrid DB antenna, effectively a 224, plus
a 16 element DB, all on the same mast.

Is this something that can be done without having each
antenna interact with the other?  Sounds like a good idea
to me.

Just curious,

Thanks,

Tim  W5FN







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[Repeater-Builder] DB Products VHF UHF on same mast?

2009-07-20 Thread tahrens301
I've got a DB-224 that is going up the tower in a
while when I get the hardline, but control issues 
have changed from land line to 440mhz control.  

So I need 2 antennas.

Today I saw a hybrid DB antenna, effectively a 224, plus
a 16 element DB, all on the same mast.

Is this something that can be done without having each
antenna interact with the other?  Sounds like a good idea
to me.

Just curious,

Thanks,

Tim  W5FN



Re: [Repeater-Builder] DB Products VHF UHF on same mast?

2009-07-20 Thread Jim WB5OXQ inb Waco, TX
If you dont need maximim range on the uhf side I just put a vhf/uhf duplexer at 
the transmitters and use the vhf antenna for uhf.  Not very effecient but it 
does work.  Basically the uhf band is the third harmonic of the vhf band.  I 
use a 1/4 wave 2 meter antenna on my wifes car with her ic207h dualband radio 
and it works good on both bands with low reflected power.
  - Original Message - 
  From: tahrens301 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 10:11 PM
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] DB Products VHF  UHF on same mast?


I've got a DB-224 that is going up the tower in a
  while when I get the hardline, but control issues 
  have changed from land line to 440mhz control. 

  So I need 2 antennas.

  Today I saw a hybrid DB antenna, effectively a 224, plus
  a 16 element DB, all on the same mast.

  Is this something that can be done without having each
  antenna interact with the other? Sounds like a good idea
  to me.

  Just curious,

  Thanks,

  Tim W5FN