Re: [Repeater-Builder] Erring on the Side of Caution....

2010-07-02 Thread x.tait.tech
wish i could find 2 sets of software for motorola

mcx780 and mcx1200

www.yousendit.com works well for me, but so far no luck

Marcus



On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 9:08 AM, DCFluX dcf...@gmail.com wrote:



 Thanks for the hot tip! Just what I needed!

 On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 1:44 PM, La Rue Communications laruec...@gmail.com
  wrote:



 Ran across this website

 http://www.hampedia.net/motorola/mt-1000.php

 Found out it has the RSS to the Motorola MT1000. And me being the cautious
 guy to never get into legal crap with the big boys as I know how Motorola's
 Software License Agreement is big and scary..

 Is this site legitimate or is this site just asking for trouble by posting
 RSS for the general public?

 Thoughts? Comments?

 Should I stay away from these people? Thanks!

 John Hymes
 La Rue Communications
 10 S. Aurora Street
 Stockton, CA 95202
 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn



  



Re: [Repeater-Builder] Erring on the Side of Caution....

2010-07-02 Thread La Rue Communications
Thanks Eric et al!

Of course the current software and software for the radios are the highest 
priority when it comes to RSS protection. Its the more obsolete units that are 
either 1) no longer being serviced by depot or 2) So old they dont care what 
happens to it. What about RSS for 800 MHz STX HTs? :-) 

Good doorstops! If I were in Motorola's shoes, I'd say go for it to anyone who 
wants to put it up for public use, and focus on the creeps who are trying to 
push / pirate the RSS for the XTS5000, like you said earlier.

I'd not be surprised if Motorola trolls those Programming sites incognito 
asking for current software..

John Hymes
La Rue Communications
10 S. Aurora Street
Stockton, CA 95202
http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn
  - Original Message - 
  From: Eric Lemmon 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 5:27 PM
  Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Erring on the Side of Caution



  John,

  While I cannot speak for Motorola, it is clear that Motorola's first
  priority is to protect the copyright of current software. On one
  programming-oriented site, there is no end of idiots who post messages like,
  Can anyone send me a copy of the latest software for the XTS5000? And
  there are idiots who respond with something like, Contact me off-list, or
  Check your PM. I doubt that Motorola will send out the legal beagles to
  collar someone who offers RSS for the SP50 or GM300, but I think that anyone
  who openly offers pirate RSS or CPS that is still being licensed and sold is
  asking for serious trouble. Big time.

  73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY


  -Original Message-
  From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of La Rue Communications
  Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 1:45 PM
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Erring on the Side of Caution

  Ran across this website

  http://www.hampedia.net/motorola/mt-1000.php
  http://www.hampedia.net/motorola/mt-1000.php 

  Found out it has the RSS to the Motorola MT1000. And me being the cautious
  guy to never get into legal crap with the big boys as I know how Motorola's
  Software License Agreement is big and scary..

  Is this site legitimate or is this site just asking for trouble by posting
  RSS for the general public?

  Thoughts? Comments?

  Should I stay away from these people? Thanks!

  John Hymes
  La Rue Communications
  10 S. Aurora Street
  Stockton, CA 95202
  http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn 



  

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Erring on the Side of Caution

2010-07-02 Thread AA8K73 GMail

It seems to me that it would not be in
Motorola's interest to provide capabilities
to use old equipment when they could sell
you new equipment instead.


La Rue Communications wrote:
  
 
 Thanks Eric et al!
  
 Of course the current software and software for the radios are the 
 highest priority when it comes to RSS protection. Its the more obsolete 
 units that are either 1) no longer being serviced by depot or 2) So old 
 they dont care what happens to it. What about RSS for 800 MHz STX HTs? :-)
  
 Good doorstops! If I were in Motorola's shoes, I'd say go for it to 
 anyone who wants to put it up for public use, and focus on the creeps 
 who are trying to push / pirate the RSS for the XTS5000, like you said 
 earlier.
  
 I'd not be surprised if Motorola trolls those Programming sites 
 incognito asking for current software ..
  
 John Hymes


Re: [Repeater-Builder] Erring on the Side of Caution

2010-07-02 Thread x.tait.tech
oh great, that explains why i cannot find anyone who with half an ounce of
nouse could send me 2 programs for the mcx780 and mcx1200  via yousendit.com

Marcus

On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 5:53 AM, AA8K73 GMail aa8...@gmail.com wrote:




 It seems to me that it would not be in
 Motorola's interest to provide capabilities
 to use old equipment when they could sell
 you new equipment instead.

 La Rue Communications wrote:
 
 
  Thanks Eric et al!
 
  Of course the current software and software for the radios are the
  highest priority when it comes to RSS protection. Its the more obsolete
  units that are either 1) no longer being serviced by depot or 2) So old
  they dont care what happens to it. What about RSS for 800 MHz STX HTs?
 :-)
 
  Good doorstops! If I were in Motorola's shoes, I'd say go for it to
  anyone who wants to put it up for public use, and focus on the creeps
  who are trying to push / pirate the RSS for the XTS5000, like you said
  earlier.
 
  I'd not be surprised if Motorola trolls those Programming sites
  incognito asking for current software ..
 
  John Hymes
  



[Repeater-Builder] Erring on the Side of Caution....

2010-07-01 Thread La Rue Communications
Ran across this website

http://www.hampedia.net/motorola/mt-1000.php

Found out it has the RSS to the Motorola MT1000. And me being the cautious guy 
to never get into legal crap with the big boys as I know how Motorola's 
Software License Agreement is big and scary..

Is this site legitimate or is this site just asking for trouble by posting RSS 
for the general public?

Thoughts? Comments?

Should I stay away from these people? Thanks!

John Hymes
La Rue Communications
10 S. Aurora Street
Stockton, CA 95202
http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Erring on the Side of Caution....

2010-07-01 Thread Jeff Ackerman
That site has been around for along time, it used to be under another domain
*www.ham.dmz.ro*, which now points to that new domain.

On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 1:44 PM, La Rue Communications
laruec...@gmail.comwrote:



 Ran across this website

 http://www.hampedia.net/motorola/mt-1000.php

 Found out it has the RSS to the Motorola MT1000. And me being the cautious
 guy to never get into legal crap with the big boys as I know how Motorola's
 Software License Agreement is big and scary..

 Is this site legitimate or is this site just asking for trouble by posting
 RSS for the general public?

 Thoughts? Comments?

 Should I stay away from these people? Thanks!

 John Hymes
 La Rue Communications
 10 S. Aurora Street
 Stockton, CA 95202
 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn
  



Re: [Repeater-Builder] Erring on the Side of Caution....

2010-07-01 Thread DCFluX
Thanks for the hot tip! Just what I needed!

On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 1:44 PM, La Rue Communications
laruec...@gmail.comwrote:



 Ran across this website

 http://www.hampedia.net/motorola/mt-1000.php

 Found out it has the RSS to the Motorola MT1000. And me being the cautious
 guy to never get into legal crap with the big boys as I know how Motorola's
 Software License Agreement is big and scary..

 Is this site legitimate or is this site just asking for trouble by posting
 RSS for the general public?

 Thoughts? Comments?

 Should I stay away from these people? Thanks!

 John Hymes
 La Rue Communications
 10 S. Aurora Street
 Stockton, CA 95202
 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn


 


Re: [Repeater-Builder] Erring on the Side of Caution....

2010-07-01 Thread La Rue Communications
So Motorola wont go ofter these people since they are based in another country? 
Glad to hear they have been around a while - just didnt want any legal crap 
with the Big Bat :-)

John Hymes
La Rue Communications
10 S. Aurora Street
Stockton, CA 95202
http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn
  - Original Message - 
  From: Jeff Ackerman 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 2:05 PM
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Erring on the Side of Caution



  That site has been around for along time, it used to be under another domain 
www.ham.dmz.ro, which now points to that new domain.



  On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 1:44 PM, La Rue Communications laruec...@gmail.com 
wrote:

  

Ran across this website

http://www.hampedia.net/motorola/mt-1000.php

Found out it has the RSS to the Motorola MT1000. And me being the cautious 
guy to never get into legal crap with the big boys as I know how Motorola's 
Software License Agreement is big and scary..

Is this site legitimate or is this site just asking for trouble by posting 
RSS for the general public?

Thoughts? Comments?

Should I stay away from these people? Thanks!

John Hymes
La Rue Communications
10 S. Aurora Street
Stockton, CA 95202
http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn



  

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Erring on the Side of Caution....

2010-07-01 Thread Jeff Ackerman
Yeah, thats what i assume since they have not been taken off, and they
mainly have all the old dos stuff.  But i am well aware of the motorola
software licience agreement policy as well, since i work for a motorola
dealer too.

On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 2:12 PM, La Rue Communications
laruec...@gmail.comwrote:



 So Motorola wont go ofter these people since they are based in another
 country? Glad to hear they have been around a while - just didnt want any
 legal crap with the Big Bat :-)

 John Hymes
 La Rue Communications
 10 S. Aurora Street
 Stockton, CA 95202
 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn

 - Original Message -
 *From:* Jeff Ackerman kg6u...@gmail.com
 *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 *Sent:* Thursday, July 01, 2010 2:05 PM
 *Subject:* Re: [Repeater-Builder] Erring on the Side of Caution



 That site has been around for along time, it used to be under another
 domain *www.ham.dmz.ro*, which now points to that new domain.

 On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 1:44 PM, La Rue Communications laruec...@gmail.com
  wrote:



 Ran across this website

 http://www.hampedia.net/motorola/mt-1000.php

 Found out it has the RSS to the Motorola MT1000. And me being the cautious
 guy to never get into legal crap with the big boys as I know how Motorola's
 Software License Agreement is big and scary..

 Is this site legitimate or is this site just asking for trouble by posting
 RSS for the general public?

 Thoughts? Comments?

 Should I stay away from these people? Thanks!

 John Hymes
 La Rue Communications
 10 S. Aurora Street
 Stockton, CA 95202
 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn


   



Re: [Repeater-Builder] Erring on the Side of Caution....

2010-07-01 Thread La Rue Communications
Thanks Jeff! I am curious though - if the RSS is similar to Computer 
applications (I know the RSS *IS* software) but if its obsolete, a lot of 
software vendors don't mind if the obsolete software goes public / freeware. 
Even if it was made Open Source and people could configure it to work with any 
similar Motorola radio (If possible), would Motorola get upset about stuff like 
that happening with their licensed software?

John Hymes
La Rue Communications
10 S. Aurora Street
Stockton, CA 95202
http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn
  - Original Message - 
  From: Jeff Ackerman 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 2:30 PM
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Erring on the Side of Caution



  Yeah, thats what i assume since they have not been taken off, and they mainly 
have all the old dos stuff.  But i am well aware of the motorola software 
licience agreement policy as well, since i work for a motorola dealer too.



  On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 2:12 PM, La Rue Communications laruec...@gmail.com 
wrote:

  

So Motorola wont go ofter these people since they are based in another 
country? Glad to hear they have been around a while - just didnt want any legal 
crap with the Big Bat :-)

John Hymes
La Rue Communications
10 S. Aurora Street
Stockton, CA 95202
http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn
  - Original Message - 
  From: Jeff Ackerman 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 2:05 PM
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Erring on the Side of Caution



  That site has been around for along time, it used to be under another 
domain www.ham.dmz.ro, which now points to that new domain.



  On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 1:44 PM, La Rue Communications 
laruec...@gmail.com wrote:

  

Ran across this website

http://www.hampedia.net/motorola/mt-1000.php

Found out it has the RSS to the Motorola MT1000. And me being the 
cautious guy to never get into legal crap with the big boys as I know how 
Motorola's Software License Agreement is big and scary..

Is this site legitimate or is this site just asking for trouble by 
posting RSS for the general public?

Thoughts? Comments?

Should I stay away from these people? Thanks!

John Hymes
La Rue Communications
10 S. Aurora Street
Stockton, CA 95202
http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn






  

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Erring on the Side of Caution....

2010-07-01 Thread Kris Kirby
On Thu, 1 Jul 2010, La Rue Communications wrote:
 Thanks Jeff! I am curious though - if the RSS is similar to Computer 
 applications (I know the RSS *IS* software) but if its obsolete, a lot 
 of software vendors don't mind if the obsolete software goes public / 
 freeware. Even if it was made Open Source and people could configure 
 it to work with any similar Motorola radio (If possible), would 
 Motorola get upset about stuff like that happening with their licensed 
 software?

Motorola will sue you into bankruptcy if you cross them. However, they 
have larger problems. Remember that they are selling radios that cost 
$1500+ to every agency under the sun because of the narrow-banding that 
is coming up in a few years. The secondary markets of the existing 
wideband radios will be legal Part 90 users who do not want to pay for 
the new radios, and can afford the filter and frequency 
standard replacement as well as the tech's time on the bench to make 
sure the radio is within spec. On top of those factors, many of the 
radios weren't made to deal with the splinter frequencies which will be 
used in increasing numbers in the future. 

I suppose if one was bright and wanted to hedge a few bets, one could 
buy up a large number of Maxtracs, have them sent to China, install new 
timebases and filters, check them there cheaply, then send them back to 
the US and have them checked again, programmed, and sold to the other 
Part 90 users. Or one could have 900MHz Maxtracs turned into 450MHz 
Maxtracs, keep the 2.5KHz deviation, and use HearClear. That would be 
fundamentally changing the operation of the radio and might involve 
learning 68HC11 microprocessors and reverse engineering the radio. But 
those costs are cheaper in China, where the choice is do I want to eat 
today? versus Do I want to eat next week? or I still have four 
months before they foreclose.

Of course, the growing dependence on CODECs to achieve bandwidth savings 
in digital radio sets an artificial obsolescence point in the lifetime of 
the radio. As long as the FCC and industry keeps thinking they can 
squeeze blood from a turnip, two-way radio will see smaller allocations 
and the Big Five telecom players will enjoy allocations in the 
multi-megahertz.

But Motorola plays in that market too.

--
Kris Kirby, KE4AHR
Disinformation Analyst


Re: [Repeater-Builder] Erring on the Side of Caution....

2010-07-01 Thread Jeff Ackerman
Well, RSS is very easy to find, as you found that web site, there are a few
other websites that list RSS, although, those other sites are all in other
countries, Russia, china and so forth.  the newer windows versions, CPS, is
harder to come by on the internet, its out there but not as publicly
available, mainly distributed through private exchanges, and such.  I have
seen motorola take action on there windows software when it shows up on the
internet, if you happen to find a listing for some CPS software on ebay,
watch it for a few days and usually motorola finds it and tells ebay, then
ebay cancles the auction automatically, iv herd several accounts of that,
even if your a dealer and your listing new software it will be taken off
ebay withen a day or so of listing it.   I have seen aucitons of radios and
the person will include a copy of the programming software, but in all
accounts of those, they were older not supported radios, that used the RSS
(dos) programming software, and iv not seen motorola report that kind of
auction, i however havent looked for auctions for just RSS and see if it
gets reported.

From what i can make of it all, motorola seems to not be as strict with the
older RSS as they are with the newer CPS.





Jeff Ackerman - kg6uyz
Peninsula Communications
6 Rossi Circle, Suite C
Salinas, Ca 93907
j...@peninsulacom.com


On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 2:38 PM, La Rue Communications
laruec...@gmail.comwrote:



 Thanks Jeff! I am curious though - if the RSS is similar to Computer
 applications (I know the RSS *IS* software) but if its obsolete, a lot of
 software vendors don't mind if the obsolete software goes public / freeware.
 Even if it was made Open Source and people could configure it to work with
 any similar Motorola radio (If possible), would Motorola get upset about
 stuff like that happening with their licensed software?

 John Hymes
 La Rue Communications
 10 S. Aurora Street
 Stockton, CA 95202
 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn

 - Original Message -
  *From:* Jeff Ackerman kg6u...@gmail.com
 *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  *Sent:* Thursday, July 01, 2010 2:30 PM
 *Subject:* Re: [Repeater-Builder] Erring on the Side of Caution



 Yeah, thats what i assume since they have not been taken off, and they
 mainly have all the old dos stuff.  But i am well aware of the motorola
 software licience agreement policy as well, since i work for a motorola
 dealer too.

 On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 2:12 PM, La Rue Communications laruec...@gmail.com
  wrote:



 So Motorola wont go ofter these people since they are based in another
 country? Glad to hear they have been around a while - just didnt want any
 legal crap with the Big Bat :-)

 John Hymes
 La Rue Communications
 10 S. Aurora Street
 Stockton, CA 95202
 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn

 - Original Message -
 *From:* Jeff Ackerman kg6u...@gmail.com
 *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 *Sent:* Thursday, July 01, 2010 2:05 PM
 *Subject:* Re: [Repeater-Builder] Erring on the Side of Caution



 That site has been around for along time, it used to be under another
 domain *www.ham.dmz.ro*, which now points to that new domain.

 On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 1:44 PM, La Rue Communications 
 laruec...@gmail.com wrote:



 Ran across this website

 http://www.hampedia.net/motorola/mt-1000.php

 Found out it has the RSS to the Motorola MT1000. And me being the
 cautious guy to never get into legal crap with the big boys as I know how
 Motorola's Software License Agreement is big and scary..

 Is this site legitimate or is this site just asking for trouble by
 posting RSS for the general public?

 Thoughts? Comments?

 Should I stay away from these people? Thanks!

 John Hymes
 La Rue Communications
 10 S. Aurora Street
 Stockton, CA 95202
 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn



   



Re: [Repeater-Builder] Erring on the Side of Caution....

2010-07-01 Thread Jeff Ackerman
One other thing is hams already modify there RSS to suite there needs,
mainly speaking of the 900 mhz rss for GTX's, MTX9000's and so forth.  But
alot of these hams that have this modified software are very reluctant to
let it go wild out on the net for fear of the big M cracking the whip,
therefor its all kept in a tight group, but in some cases its not.

On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 2:55 PM, Kris Kirby k...@catonic.us wrote:



 On Thu, 1 Jul 2010, La Rue Communications wrote:
  Thanks Jeff! I am curious though - if the RSS is similar to Computer
  applications (I know the RSS *IS* software) but if its obsolete, a lot
  of software vendors don't mind if the obsolete software goes public /
  freeware. Even if it was made Open Source and people could configure
  it to work with any similar Motorola radio (If possible), would
  Motorola get upset about stuff like that happening with their licensed
  software?

 Motorola will sue you into bankruptcy if you cross them. However, they
 have larger problems. Remember that they are selling radios that cost
 $1500+ to every agency under the sun because of the narrow-banding that
 is coming up in a few years. The secondary markets of the existing
 wideband radios will be legal Part 90 users who do not want to pay for
 the new radios, and can afford the filter and frequency
 standard replacement as well as the tech's time on the bench to make
 sure the radio is within spec. On top of those factors, many of the
 radios weren't made to deal with the splinter frequencies which will be
 used in increasing numbers in the future.

 I suppose if one was bright and wanted to hedge a few bets, one could
 buy up a large number of Maxtracs, have them sent to China, install new
 timebases and filters, check them there cheaply, then send them back to
 the US and have them checked again, programmed, and sold to the other
 Part 90 users. Or one could have 900MHz Maxtracs turned into 450MHz
 Maxtracs, keep the 2.5KHz deviation, and use HearClear. That would be
 fundamentally changing the operation of the radio and might involve
 learning 68HC11 microprocessors and reverse engineering the radio. But
 those costs are cheaper in China, where the choice is do I want to eat
 today? versus Do I want to eat next week? or I still have four
 months before they foreclose.

 Of course, the growing dependence on CODECs to achieve bandwidth savings
 in digital radio sets an artificial obsolescence point in the lifetime of
 the radio. As long as the FCC and industry keeps thinking they can
 squeeze blood from a turnip, two-way radio will see smaller allocations
 and the Big Five telecom players will enjoy allocations in the
 multi-megahertz.

 But Motorola plays in that market too.

 --
 Kris Kirby, KE4AHR
 Disinformation Analyst
  




-- 
Jeff Ackerman
Peninsula Communications
6 Rossi Circle, Suite C
Salinas, Ca 93907
j...@peninsulacom.com


Re: [Repeater-Builder] Erring on the Side of Caution....

2010-07-01 Thread La Rue Communications
Makes sense! Thanks Jeff! :-)

John Hymes
La Rue Communications
10 S. Aurora Street
Stockton, CA 95202
http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn
  - Original Message - 
  From: Jeff Ackerman 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 3:01 PM
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Erring on the Side of Caution



  One other thing is hams already modify there RSS to suite there needs, mainly 
speaking of the 900 mhz rss for GTX's, MTX9000's and so forth.  But alot of 
these hams that have this modified software are very reluctant to let it go 
wild out on the net for fear of the big M cracking the whip, therefor its all 
kept in a tight group, but in some cases its not.  



  On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 2:55 PM, Kris Kirby k...@catonic.us wrote:

  

On Thu, 1 Jul 2010, La Rue Communications wrote:
 Thanks Jeff! I am curious though - if the RSS is similar to Computer 
 applications (I know the RSS *IS* software) but if its obsolete, a lot 
 of software vendors don't mind if the obsolete software goes public / 
 freeware. Even if it was made Open Source and people could configure 
 it to work with any similar Motorola radio (If possible), would 
 Motorola get upset about stuff like that happening with their licensed 
 software?


Motorola will sue you into bankruptcy if you cross them. However, they 
have larger problems. Remember that they are selling radios that cost 
$1500+ to every agency under the sun because of the narrow-banding that 
is coming up in a few years. The secondary markets of the existing 
wideband radios will be legal Part 90 users who do not want to pay for 
the new radios, and can afford the filter and frequency 
standard replacement as well as the tech's time on the bench to make 
sure the radio is within spec. On top of those factors, many of the 
radios weren't made to deal with the splinter frequencies which will be 
used in increasing numbers in the future. 

I suppose if one was bright and wanted to hedge a few bets, one could 
buy up a large number of Maxtracs, have them sent to China, install new 
timebases and filters, check them there cheaply, then send them back to 
the US and have them checked again, programmed, and sold to the other 
Part 90 users. Or one could have 900MHz Maxtracs turned into 450MHz 
Maxtracs, keep the 2.5KHz deviation, and use HearClear. That would be 
fundamentally changing the operation of the radio and might involve 
learning 68HC11 microprocessors and reverse engineering the radio. But 
those costs are cheaper in China, where the choice is do I want to eat 
today? versus Do I want to eat next week? or I still have four 
months before they foreclose.

Of course, the growing dependence on CODECs to achieve bandwidth savings 
in digital radio sets an artificial obsolescence point in the lifetime of 
the radio. As long as the FCC and industry keeps thinking they can 
squeeze blood from a turnip, two-way radio will see smaller allocations 
and the Big Five telecom players will enjoy allocations in the 
multi-megahertz.

But Motorola plays in that market too.

--
Kris Kirby, KE4AHR
Disinformation Analyst




  -- 
  Jeff Ackerman
  Peninsula Communications
  6 Rossi Circle, Suite C
  Salinas, Ca 93907
  j...@peninsulacom.com


  

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Erring on the Side of Caution....

2010-07-01 Thread Eric Lemmon
John,

While I cannot speak for Motorola, it is clear that Motorola's first
priority is to protect the copyright of current software.  On one
programming-oriented site, there is no end of idiots who post messages like,
Can anyone send me a copy of the latest software for the XTS5000?  And
there are idiots who respond with something like, Contact me off-list, or
Check your PM.  I doubt that Motorola will send out the legal beagles to
collar someone who offers RSS for the SP50 or GM300, but I think that anyone
who openly offers pirate RSS or CPS that is still being licensed and sold is
asking for serious trouble.  Big time.

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
 

-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of La Rue Communications
Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 1:45 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Erring on the Side of Caution

  

Ran across this website
 
http://www.hampedia.net/motorola/mt-1000.php
http://www.hampedia.net/motorola/mt-1000.php 
 
Found out it has the RSS to the Motorola MT1000. And me being the cautious
guy to never get into legal crap with the big boys as I know how Motorola's
Software License Agreement is big and scary..
 
Is this site legitimate or is this site just asking for trouble by posting
RSS for the general public?
 
Thoughts? Comments?
 
Should I stay away from these people? Thanks!
 
John Hymes
La Rue Communications
10 S. Aurora Street
Stockton, CA 95202
http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn 





Re: [Repeater-Builder] Erring on the Side of Caution....

2010-07-01 Thread Chester Brown
Since they don't sell it anymore I doubt they would use the legal department
to go after anyone, BUT send a radio to depot for repair with the software
on it and oops .. Just my thoughts

Chester

On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 2:38 PM, La Rue Communications
laruec...@gmail.comwrote:



 Thanks Jeff! I am curious though - if the RSS is similar to Computer
 applications (I know the RSS *IS* software) but if its obsolete, a lot of
 software vendors don't mind if the obsolete software goes public / freeware.
 Even if it was made Open Source and people could configure it to work with
 any similar Motorola radio (If possible), would Motorola get upset about
 stuff like that happening with their licensed software?

 John Hymes
 La Rue Communications
 10 S. Aurora Street
 Stockton, CA 95202
 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn

 - Original Message -
 *From:* Jeff Ackerman kg6u...@gmail.com
 *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 *Sent:* Thursday, July 01, 2010 2:30 PM
 *Subject:* Re: [Repeater-Builder] Erring on the Side of Caution



 Yeah, thats what i assume since they have not been taken off, and they
 mainly have all the old dos stuff.  But i am well aware of the motorola
 software licience agreement policy as well, since i work for a motorola
 dealer too.

 On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 2:12 PM, La Rue Communications laruec...@gmail.com
  wrote:



 So Motorola wont go ofter these people since they are based in another
 country? Glad to hear they have been around a while - just didnt want any
 legal crap with the Big Bat :-)

 John Hymes
 La Rue Communications
 10 S. Aurora Street
 Stockton, CA 95202
 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn

 - Original Message -
 *From:* Jeff Ackerman kg6u...@gmail.com
 *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 *Sent:* Thursday, July 01, 2010 2:05 PM
 *Subject:* Re: [Repeater-Builder] Erring on the Side of Caution



 That site has been around for along time, it used to be under another
 domain *www.ham.dmz.ro*, which now points to that new domain.

 On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 1:44 PM, La Rue Communications 
 laruec...@gmail.com wrote:



 Ran across this website

 http://www.hampedia.net/motorola/mt-1000.php

 Found out it has the RSS to the Motorola MT1000. And me being the
 cautious guy to never get into legal crap with the big boys as I know how
 Motorola's Software License Agreement is big and scary..

 Is this site legitimate or is this site just asking for trouble by
 posting RSS for the general public?

 Thoughts? Comments?

 Should I stay away from these people? Thanks!

 John Hymes
 La Rue Communications
 10 S. Aurora Street
 Stockton, CA 95202
 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn



   



Re: [Repeater-Builder] Erring on the Side of Caution....

2010-07-01 Thread Chuck Kraly
Actually that is another Russian site, and they have always been notorious
for placing the RSS/CPS out there

Chuck K0CMK

On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 3:44 PM, La Rue Communications
laruec...@gmail.comwrote:



 Ran across this website

 http://www.hampedia.net/motorola/mt-1000.php

 Found out it has the RSS to the Motorola MT1000. And me being the cautious
 guy to never get into legal crap with the big boys as I know how Motorola's
 Software License Agreement is big and scary..

 Is this site legitimate or is this site just asking for trouble by posting
 RSS for the general public?

 Thoughts? Comments?

 Should I stay away from these people? Thanks!

 John Hymes
 La Rue Communications
 10 S. Aurora Street
 Stockton, CA 95202
 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn