Re: [Repeater-Builder] Erring on the Side of Caution....
wish i could find 2 sets of software for motorola mcx780 and mcx1200 www.yousendit.com works well for me, but so far no luck Marcus On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 9:08 AM, DCFluX dcf...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the hot tip! Just what I needed! On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 1:44 PM, La Rue Communications laruec...@gmail.com wrote: Ran across this website http://www.hampedia.net/motorola/mt-1000.php Found out it has the RSS to the Motorola MT1000. And me being the cautious guy to never get into legal crap with the big boys as I know how Motorola's Software License Agreement is big and scary.. Is this site legitimate or is this site just asking for trouble by posting RSS for the general public? Thoughts? Comments? Should I stay away from these people? Thanks! John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Erring on the Side of Caution....
Thanks Eric et al! Of course the current software and software for the radios are the highest priority when it comes to RSS protection. Its the more obsolete units that are either 1) no longer being serviced by depot or 2) So old they dont care what happens to it. What about RSS for 800 MHz STX HTs? :-) Good doorstops! If I were in Motorola's shoes, I'd say go for it to anyone who wants to put it up for public use, and focus on the creeps who are trying to push / pirate the RSS for the XTS5000, like you said earlier. I'd not be surprised if Motorola trolls those Programming sites incognito asking for current software.. John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: Eric Lemmon To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 5:27 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Erring on the Side of Caution John, While I cannot speak for Motorola, it is clear that Motorola's first priority is to protect the copyright of current software. On one programming-oriented site, there is no end of idiots who post messages like, Can anyone send me a copy of the latest software for the XTS5000? And there are idiots who respond with something like, Contact me off-list, or Check your PM. I doubt that Motorola will send out the legal beagles to collar someone who offers RSS for the SP50 or GM300, but I think that anyone who openly offers pirate RSS or CPS that is still being licensed and sold is asking for serious trouble. Big time. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of La Rue Communications Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 1:45 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Erring on the Side of Caution Ran across this website http://www.hampedia.net/motorola/mt-1000.php http://www.hampedia.net/motorola/mt-1000.php Found out it has the RSS to the Motorola MT1000. And me being the cautious guy to never get into legal crap with the big boys as I know how Motorola's Software License Agreement is big and scary.. Is this site legitimate or is this site just asking for trouble by posting RSS for the general public? Thoughts? Comments? Should I stay away from these people? Thanks! John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Erring on the Side of Caution
It seems to me that it would not be in Motorola's interest to provide capabilities to use old equipment when they could sell you new equipment instead. La Rue Communications wrote: Thanks Eric et al! Of course the current software and software for the radios are the highest priority when it comes to RSS protection. Its the more obsolete units that are either 1) no longer being serviced by depot or 2) So old they dont care what happens to it. What about RSS for 800 MHz STX HTs? :-) Good doorstops! If I were in Motorola's shoes, I'd say go for it to anyone who wants to put it up for public use, and focus on the creeps who are trying to push / pirate the RSS for the XTS5000, like you said earlier. I'd not be surprised if Motorola trolls those Programming sites incognito asking for current software .. John Hymes
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Erring on the Side of Caution
oh great, that explains why i cannot find anyone who with half an ounce of nouse could send me 2 programs for the mcx780 and mcx1200 via yousendit.com Marcus On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 5:53 AM, AA8K73 GMail aa8...@gmail.com wrote: It seems to me that it would not be in Motorola's interest to provide capabilities to use old equipment when they could sell you new equipment instead. La Rue Communications wrote: Thanks Eric et al! Of course the current software and software for the radios are the highest priority when it comes to RSS protection. Its the more obsolete units that are either 1) no longer being serviced by depot or 2) So old they dont care what happens to it. What about RSS for 800 MHz STX HTs? :-) Good doorstops! If I were in Motorola's shoes, I'd say go for it to anyone who wants to put it up for public use, and focus on the creeps who are trying to push / pirate the RSS for the XTS5000, like you said earlier. I'd not be surprised if Motorola trolls those Programming sites incognito asking for current software .. John Hymes
[Repeater-Builder] Erring on the Side of Caution....
Ran across this website http://www.hampedia.net/motorola/mt-1000.php Found out it has the RSS to the Motorola MT1000. And me being the cautious guy to never get into legal crap with the big boys as I know how Motorola's Software License Agreement is big and scary.. Is this site legitimate or is this site just asking for trouble by posting RSS for the general public? Thoughts? Comments? Should I stay away from these people? Thanks! John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Erring on the Side of Caution....
That site has been around for along time, it used to be under another domain *www.ham.dmz.ro*, which now points to that new domain. On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 1:44 PM, La Rue Communications laruec...@gmail.comwrote: Ran across this website http://www.hampedia.net/motorola/mt-1000.php Found out it has the RSS to the Motorola MT1000. And me being the cautious guy to never get into legal crap with the big boys as I know how Motorola's Software License Agreement is big and scary.. Is this site legitimate or is this site just asking for trouble by posting RSS for the general public? Thoughts? Comments? Should I stay away from these people? Thanks! John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Erring on the Side of Caution....
Thanks for the hot tip! Just what I needed! On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 1:44 PM, La Rue Communications laruec...@gmail.comwrote: Ran across this website http://www.hampedia.net/motorola/mt-1000.php Found out it has the RSS to the Motorola MT1000. And me being the cautious guy to never get into legal crap with the big boys as I know how Motorola's Software License Agreement is big and scary.. Is this site legitimate or is this site just asking for trouble by posting RSS for the general public? Thoughts? Comments? Should I stay away from these people? Thanks! John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Erring on the Side of Caution....
So Motorola wont go ofter these people since they are based in another country? Glad to hear they have been around a while - just didnt want any legal crap with the Big Bat :-) John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: Jeff Ackerman To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 2:05 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Erring on the Side of Caution That site has been around for along time, it used to be under another domain www.ham.dmz.ro, which now points to that new domain. On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 1:44 PM, La Rue Communications laruec...@gmail.com wrote: Ran across this website http://www.hampedia.net/motorola/mt-1000.php Found out it has the RSS to the Motorola MT1000. And me being the cautious guy to never get into legal crap with the big boys as I know how Motorola's Software License Agreement is big and scary.. Is this site legitimate or is this site just asking for trouble by posting RSS for the general public? Thoughts? Comments? Should I stay away from these people? Thanks! John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Erring on the Side of Caution....
Yeah, thats what i assume since they have not been taken off, and they mainly have all the old dos stuff. But i am well aware of the motorola software licience agreement policy as well, since i work for a motorola dealer too. On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 2:12 PM, La Rue Communications laruec...@gmail.comwrote: So Motorola wont go ofter these people since they are based in another country? Glad to hear they have been around a while - just didnt want any legal crap with the Big Bat :-) John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - *From:* Jeff Ackerman kg6u...@gmail.com *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, July 01, 2010 2:05 PM *Subject:* Re: [Repeater-Builder] Erring on the Side of Caution That site has been around for along time, it used to be under another domain *www.ham.dmz.ro*, which now points to that new domain. On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 1:44 PM, La Rue Communications laruec...@gmail.com wrote: Ran across this website http://www.hampedia.net/motorola/mt-1000.php Found out it has the RSS to the Motorola MT1000. And me being the cautious guy to never get into legal crap with the big boys as I know how Motorola's Software License Agreement is big and scary.. Is this site legitimate or is this site just asking for trouble by posting RSS for the general public? Thoughts? Comments? Should I stay away from these people? Thanks! John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Erring on the Side of Caution....
Thanks Jeff! I am curious though - if the RSS is similar to Computer applications (I know the RSS *IS* software) but if its obsolete, a lot of software vendors don't mind if the obsolete software goes public / freeware. Even if it was made Open Source and people could configure it to work with any similar Motorola radio (If possible), would Motorola get upset about stuff like that happening with their licensed software? John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: Jeff Ackerman To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 2:30 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Erring on the Side of Caution Yeah, thats what i assume since they have not been taken off, and they mainly have all the old dos stuff. But i am well aware of the motorola software licience agreement policy as well, since i work for a motorola dealer too. On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 2:12 PM, La Rue Communications laruec...@gmail.com wrote: So Motorola wont go ofter these people since they are based in another country? Glad to hear they have been around a while - just didnt want any legal crap with the Big Bat :-) John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: Jeff Ackerman To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 2:05 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Erring on the Side of Caution That site has been around for along time, it used to be under another domain www.ham.dmz.ro, which now points to that new domain. On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 1:44 PM, La Rue Communications laruec...@gmail.com wrote: Ran across this website http://www.hampedia.net/motorola/mt-1000.php Found out it has the RSS to the Motorola MT1000. And me being the cautious guy to never get into legal crap with the big boys as I know how Motorola's Software License Agreement is big and scary.. Is this site legitimate or is this site just asking for trouble by posting RSS for the general public? Thoughts? Comments? Should I stay away from these people? Thanks! John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Erring on the Side of Caution....
On Thu, 1 Jul 2010, La Rue Communications wrote: Thanks Jeff! I am curious though - if the RSS is similar to Computer applications (I know the RSS *IS* software) but if its obsolete, a lot of software vendors don't mind if the obsolete software goes public / freeware. Even if it was made Open Source and people could configure it to work with any similar Motorola radio (If possible), would Motorola get upset about stuff like that happening with their licensed software? Motorola will sue you into bankruptcy if you cross them. However, they have larger problems. Remember that they are selling radios that cost $1500+ to every agency under the sun because of the narrow-banding that is coming up in a few years. The secondary markets of the existing wideband radios will be legal Part 90 users who do not want to pay for the new radios, and can afford the filter and frequency standard replacement as well as the tech's time on the bench to make sure the radio is within spec. On top of those factors, many of the radios weren't made to deal with the splinter frequencies which will be used in increasing numbers in the future. I suppose if one was bright and wanted to hedge a few bets, one could buy up a large number of Maxtracs, have them sent to China, install new timebases and filters, check them there cheaply, then send them back to the US and have them checked again, programmed, and sold to the other Part 90 users. Or one could have 900MHz Maxtracs turned into 450MHz Maxtracs, keep the 2.5KHz deviation, and use HearClear. That would be fundamentally changing the operation of the radio and might involve learning 68HC11 microprocessors and reverse engineering the radio. But those costs are cheaper in China, where the choice is do I want to eat today? versus Do I want to eat next week? or I still have four months before they foreclose. Of course, the growing dependence on CODECs to achieve bandwidth savings in digital radio sets an artificial obsolescence point in the lifetime of the radio. As long as the FCC and industry keeps thinking they can squeeze blood from a turnip, two-way radio will see smaller allocations and the Big Five telecom players will enjoy allocations in the multi-megahertz. But Motorola plays in that market too. -- Kris Kirby, KE4AHR Disinformation Analyst
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Erring on the Side of Caution....
Well, RSS is very easy to find, as you found that web site, there are a few other websites that list RSS, although, those other sites are all in other countries, Russia, china and so forth. the newer windows versions, CPS, is harder to come by on the internet, its out there but not as publicly available, mainly distributed through private exchanges, and such. I have seen motorola take action on there windows software when it shows up on the internet, if you happen to find a listing for some CPS software on ebay, watch it for a few days and usually motorola finds it and tells ebay, then ebay cancles the auction automatically, iv herd several accounts of that, even if your a dealer and your listing new software it will be taken off ebay withen a day or so of listing it. I have seen aucitons of radios and the person will include a copy of the programming software, but in all accounts of those, they were older not supported radios, that used the RSS (dos) programming software, and iv not seen motorola report that kind of auction, i however havent looked for auctions for just RSS and see if it gets reported. From what i can make of it all, motorola seems to not be as strict with the older RSS as they are with the newer CPS. Jeff Ackerman - kg6uyz Peninsula Communications 6 Rossi Circle, Suite C Salinas, Ca 93907 j...@peninsulacom.com On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 2:38 PM, La Rue Communications laruec...@gmail.comwrote: Thanks Jeff! I am curious though - if the RSS is similar to Computer applications (I know the RSS *IS* software) but if its obsolete, a lot of software vendors don't mind if the obsolete software goes public / freeware. Even if it was made Open Source and people could configure it to work with any similar Motorola radio (If possible), would Motorola get upset about stuff like that happening with their licensed software? John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - *From:* Jeff Ackerman kg6u...@gmail.com *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, July 01, 2010 2:30 PM *Subject:* Re: [Repeater-Builder] Erring on the Side of Caution Yeah, thats what i assume since they have not been taken off, and they mainly have all the old dos stuff. But i am well aware of the motorola software licience agreement policy as well, since i work for a motorola dealer too. On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 2:12 PM, La Rue Communications laruec...@gmail.com wrote: So Motorola wont go ofter these people since they are based in another country? Glad to hear they have been around a while - just didnt want any legal crap with the Big Bat :-) John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - *From:* Jeff Ackerman kg6u...@gmail.com *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, July 01, 2010 2:05 PM *Subject:* Re: [Repeater-Builder] Erring on the Side of Caution That site has been around for along time, it used to be under another domain *www.ham.dmz.ro*, which now points to that new domain. On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 1:44 PM, La Rue Communications laruec...@gmail.com wrote: Ran across this website http://www.hampedia.net/motorola/mt-1000.php Found out it has the RSS to the Motorola MT1000. And me being the cautious guy to never get into legal crap with the big boys as I know how Motorola's Software License Agreement is big and scary.. Is this site legitimate or is this site just asking for trouble by posting RSS for the general public? Thoughts? Comments? Should I stay away from these people? Thanks! John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Erring on the Side of Caution....
One other thing is hams already modify there RSS to suite there needs, mainly speaking of the 900 mhz rss for GTX's, MTX9000's and so forth. But alot of these hams that have this modified software are very reluctant to let it go wild out on the net for fear of the big M cracking the whip, therefor its all kept in a tight group, but in some cases its not. On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 2:55 PM, Kris Kirby k...@catonic.us wrote: On Thu, 1 Jul 2010, La Rue Communications wrote: Thanks Jeff! I am curious though - if the RSS is similar to Computer applications (I know the RSS *IS* software) but if its obsolete, a lot of software vendors don't mind if the obsolete software goes public / freeware. Even if it was made Open Source and people could configure it to work with any similar Motorola radio (If possible), would Motorola get upset about stuff like that happening with their licensed software? Motorola will sue you into bankruptcy if you cross them. However, they have larger problems. Remember that they are selling radios that cost $1500+ to every agency under the sun because of the narrow-banding that is coming up in a few years. The secondary markets of the existing wideband radios will be legal Part 90 users who do not want to pay for the new radios, and can afford the filter and frequency standard replacement as well as the tech's time on the bench to make sure the radio is within spec. On top of those factors, many of the radios weren't made to deal with the splinter frequencies which will be used in increasing numbers in the future. I suppose if one was bright and wanted to hedge a few bets, one could buy up a large number of Maxtracs, have them sent to China, install new timebases and filters, check them there cheaply, then send them back to the US and have them checked again, programmed, and sold to the other Part 90 users. Or one could have 900MHz Maxtracs turned into 450MHz Maxtracs, keep the 2.5KHz deviation, and use HearClear. That would be fundamentally changing the operation of the radio and might involve learning 68HC11 microprocessors and reverse engineering the radio. But those costs are cheaper in China, where the choice is do I want to eat today? versus Do I want to eat next week? or I still have four months before they foreclose. Of course, the growing dependence on CODECs to achieve bandwidth savings in digital radio sets an artificial obsolescence point in the lifetime of the radio. As long as the FCC and industry keeps thinking they can squeeze blood from a turnip, two-way radio will see smaller allocations and the Big Five telecom players will enjoy allocations in the multi-megahertz. But Motorola plays in that market too. -- Kris Kirby, KE4AHR Disinformation Analyst -- Jeff Ackerman Peninsula Communications 6 Rossi Circle, Suite C Salinas, Ca 93907 j...@peninsulacom.com
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Erring on the Side of Caution....
Makes sense! Thanks Jeff! :-) John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: Jeff Ackerman To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 3:01 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Erring on the Side of Caution One other thing is hams already modify there RSS to suite there needs, mainly speaking of the 900 mhz rss for GTX's, MTX9000's and so forth. But alot of these hams that have this modified software are very reluctant to let it go wild out on the net for fear of the big M cracking the whip, therefor its all kept in a tight group, but in some cases its not. On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 2:55 PM, Kris Kirby k...@catonic.us wrote: On Thu, 1 Jul 2010, La Rue Communications wrote: Thanks Jeff! I am curious though - if the RSS is similar to Computer applications (I know the RSS *IS* software) but if its obsolete, a lot of software vendors don't mind if the obsolete software goes public / freeware. Even if it was made Open Source and people could configure it to work with any similar Motorola radio (If possible), would Motorola get upset about stuff like that happening with their licensed software? Motorola will sue you into bankruptcy if you cross them. However, they have larger problems. Remember that they are selling radios that cost $1500+ to every agency under the sun because of the narrow-banding that is coming up in a few years. The secondary markets of the existing wideband radios will be legal Part 90 users who do not want to pay for the new radios, and can afford the filter and frequency standard replacement as well as the tech's time on the bench to make sure the radio is within spec. On top of those factors, many of the radios weren't made to deal with the splinter frequencies which will be used in increasing numbers in the future. I suppose if one was bright and wanted to hedge a few bets, one could buy up a large number of Maxtracs, have them sent to China, install new timebases and filters, check them there cheaply, then send them back to the US and have them checked again, programmed, and sold to the other Part 90 users. Or one could have 900MHz Maxtracs turned into 450MHz Maxtracs, keep the 2.5KHz deviation, and use HearClear. That would be fundamentally changing the operation of the radio and might involve learning 68HC11 microprocessors and reverse engineering the radio. But those costs are cheaper in China, where the choice is do I want to eat today? versus Do I want to eat next week? or I still have four months before they foreclose. Of course, the growing dependence on CODECs to achieve bandwidth savings in digital radio sets an artificial obsolescence point in the lifetime of the radio. As long as the FCC and industry keeps thinking they can squeeze blood from a turnip, two-way radio will see smaller allocations and the Big Five telecom players will enjoy allocations in the multi-megahertz. But Motorola plays in that market too. -- Kris Kirby, KE4AHR Disinformation Analyst -- Jeff Ackerman Peninsula Communications 6 Rossi Circle, Suite C Salinas, Ca 93907 j...@peninsulacom.com
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Erring on the Side of Caution....
John, While I cannot speak for Motorola, it is clear that Motorola's first priority is to protect the copyright of current software. On one programming-oriented site, there is no end of idiots who post messages like, Can anyone send me a copy of the latest software for the XTS5000? And there are idiots who respond with something like, Contact me off-list, or Check your PM. I doubt that Motorola will send out the legal beagles to collar someone who offers RSS for the SP50 or GM300, but I think that anyone who openly offers pirate RSS or CPS that is still being licensed and sold is asking for serious trouble. Big time. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of La Rue Communications Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 1:45 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Erring on the Side of Caution Ran across this website http://www.hampedia.net/motorola/mt-1000.php http://www.hampedia.net/motorola/mt-1000.php Found out it has the RSS to the Motorola MT1000. And me being the cautious guy to never get into legal crap with the big boys as I know how Motorola's Software License Agreement is big and scary.. Is this site legitimate or is this site just asking for trouble by posting RSS for the general public? Thoughts? Comments? Should I stay away from these people? Thanks! John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn
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Since they don't sell it anymore I doubt they would use the legal department to go after anyone, BUT send a radio to depot for repair with the software on it and oops .. Just my thoughts Chester On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 2:38 PM, La Rue Communications laruec...@gmail.comwrote: Thanks Jeff! I am curious though - if the RSS is similar to Computer applications (I know the RSS *IS* software) but if its obsolete, a lot of software vendors don't mind if the obsolete software goes public / freeware. Even if it was made Open Source and people could configure it to work with any similar Motorola radio (If possible), would Motorola get upset about stuff like that happening with their licensed software? John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - *From:* Jeff Ackerman kg6u...@gmail.com *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, July 01, 2010 2:30 PM *Subject:* Re: [Repeater-Builder] Erring on the Side of Caution Yeah, thats what i assume since they have not been taken off, and they mainly have all the old dos stuff. But i am well aware of the motorola software licience agreement policy as well, since i work for a motorola dealer too. On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 2:12 PM, La Rue Communications laruec...@gmail.com wrote: So Motorola wont go ofter these people since they are based in another country? Glad to hear they have been around a while - just didnt want any legal crap with the Big Bat :-) John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - *From:* Jeff Ackerman kg6u...@gmail.com *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, July 01, 2010 2:05 PM *Subject:* Re: [Repeater-Builder] Erring on the Side of Caution That site has been around for along time, it used to be under another domain *www.ham.dmz.ro*, which now points to that new domain. On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 1:44 PM, La Rue Communications laruec...@gmail.com wrote: Ran across this website http://www.hampedia.net/motorola/mt-1000.php Found out it has the RSS to the Motorola MT1000. And me being the cautious guy to never get into legal crap with the big boys as I know how Motorola's Software License Agreement is big and scary.. Is this site legitimate or is this site just asking for trouble by posting RSS for the general public? Thoughts? Comments? Should I stay away from these people? Thanks! John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Erring on the Side of Caution....
Actually that is another Russian site, and they have always been notorious for placing the RSS/CPS out there Chuck K0CMK On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 3:44 PM, La Rue Communications laruec...@gmail.comwrote: Ran across this website http://www.hampedia.net/motorola/mt-1000.php Found out it has the RSS to the Motorola MT1000. And me being the cautious guy to never get into legal crap with the big boys as I know how Motorola's Software License Agreement is big and scary.. Is this site legitimate or is this site just asking for trouble by posting RSS for the general public? Thoughts? Comments? Should I stay away from these people? Thanks! John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn