RE: [Repeater-Builder] GE Monogram radios - follow-up
Jeff, I wish I could answer those questions directly... but I'll have to check. I'm not the guy who is trying to do this, I am an intermediary. (The guy doing the work is not a list subscriber.) But I will forward this to the guy who is doing the work, get an answer and report back with the answers. Mark - N9WYS -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of Yahoo What is the version of software you are using and are you programming from DOS or windowed to DOS? What version of windows? Jeff -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of Mark Jeff, the radio gods must smile upon you, then... as we've had nothing but problems. ;-p We CANNOT program a Monogram radio with the Maxon software, as said in the Wizard of Oz, Not no way, not no how! We can't even get the software to READ the radio correctly, much less program it. And we're using a mid-speed machine - probably an early P-II, if I remember correctly. I guess I/we just don't have the touch... Now if only we could figure out *WHY*, I/we'd be much happier. Mark - N9WYS
RE: [Repeater-Builder] GE Monogram radios - follow-up
What is the version of software you are using and are you programming from DOS or windowed to DOS? What version of windows? Jeff -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 8:56 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] GE Monogram radios - follow-up Jeff, the radio gods must smile upon you, then... as we've had nothing but problems. ;-p We CANNOT program a Monogram radio with the Maxon software, as said in the Wizard of Oz, Not no way, not no how! We can't even get the software to READ the radio correctly, much less program it. And we're using a mid-speed machine - probably an early P-II, if I remember correctly. I guess I/we just don't have the touch... Now if only we could figure out *WHY*, I/we'd be much happier. Mark - N9WYS -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of Yahoo Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 9:18 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] GE Monogram radios - follow-up Maxon cables are serial and GE Monogram cables are parallel. Never had a problem programming a Monogram radio with a Maxon cable. Have never tried a computer faster than a PIII 1ghz machine. Jeff -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 8:06 AM To: g...@yahoogroups.com; Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com; ge-...@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] GE Monogram radios - follow-up Gentle people, This is in follow-up to the message I posted earlier (below as well). We have obtained copies of the requisite software - THANK YOU! Here is a recap of our difficulties. We started by trying to use Maxon software to reprogram the radios - bad juju, I guess. The problem is that we couldn't seem to select the proper band for programming the radio. The radios are UHF, but the software continued to report they are VHF - with very strange frequency entries as well. There was no option to select the proper band - only the radio type. These are 10-channel radios, so that limited out selections to only two choices. Neither worked properly... When using the Maxon software, in order to exit from the READ RADIO menu, the software says to simply turn off the radio. For us, this doesn't work - we need to physically disconnect the radio as well, re-power the radio and THEN plug the cable back in. And this is when we got the erroneous frequency/band displays. Now that we have the proper GE software, it requires the cable to be on the parallel port for proper operation, so now we have a new problem... I am posting copies of photos of the cable we are using. Does this look like the proper cable? *IF* it is configured for the serial port (as I have been told the Maxon cable is), can a gender bender be used to connect it to the parallel port and have it work properly with the GE software? (In order for this to work, the cable pinouts must be the same for parallel as they are for serial - something I do not know offhand for certain.) Will we be forced to buy the GE programming cable? Or can we re-wire the 25-pin end connector for what we need??? (If someone has the proper pinouts available) Thanks for your assistance so far! Mark - N9WYS Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] GE Monogram radios - follow-up
I use a maxon eprom programmer. Seems to work pretty well on the mobiles anyways - Original Message - From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu Apr 09 22:23:01 2009 Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] GE Monogram radios - follow-up Jeff, I wish I could answer those questions directly... but I'll have to check. I'm not the guy who is trying to do this, I am an intermediary. (The guy doing the work is not a list subscriber.) But I will forward this to the guy who is doing the work, get an answer and report back with the answers. Mark - N9WYS -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of Yahoo What is the version of software you are using and are you programming from DOS or windowed to DOS? What version of windows? Jeff -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of Mark Jeff, the radio gods must smile upon you, then... as we've had nothing but problems. ;-p We CANNOT program a Monogram radio with the Maxon software, as said in the Wizard of Oz, Not no way, not no how! We can't even get the software to READ the radio correctly, much less program it. And we're using a mid-speed machine - probably an early P-II, if I remember correctly. I guess I/we just don't have the touch... Now if only we could figure out *WHY*, I/we'd be much happier. Mark - N9WYS
Re: [Repeater-Builder] GE Monogram radios - follow-up
At one time we were a Maxon dealer and the software we got from Maxon would not work into the GE radio's but the GE radio's were made for them by Maxon. There was talk of a software that could be mod to work but never seen it. John - Original Message - From: Mark To: g...@yahoogroups.com ; Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com ; ge-...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 11:05 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] GE Monogram radios - follow-up Gentle people, This is in follow-up to the message I posted earlier (below as well). We have obtained copies of the requisite software - THANK YOU! Here is a recap of our difficulties. We started by trying to use Maxon software to reprogram the radios - bad juju, I guess. The problem is that we couldn't seem to select the proper band for programming the radio. The radios are UHF, but the software continued to report they are VHF - with very strange frequency entries as well. There was no option to select the proper band - only the radio type. These are 10-channel radios, so that limited out selections to only two choices. Neither worked properly... When using the Maxon software, in order to exit from the READ RADIO menu, the software says to simply turn off the radio. For us, this doesn't work - we need to physically disconnect the radio as well, re-power the radio and THEN plug the cable back in. And this is when we got the erroneous frequency/band displays. Now that we have the proper GE software, it requires the cable to be on the parallel port for proper operation, so now we have a new problem... I am posting copies of photos of the cable we are using. Does this look like the proper cable? *IF* it is configured for the serial port (as I have been told the Maxon cable is), can a gender bender be used to connect it to the parallel port and have it work properly with the GE software? (In order for this to work, the cable pinouts must be the same for parallel as they are for serial - something I do not know offhand for certain.) Will we be forced to buy the GE programming cable? Or can we re-wire the 25-pin end connector for what we need??? (If someone has the proper pinouts available) Thanks for your assistance so far! Mark - N9WYS -Original Message- From: g...@yahoogroups.com [mailto:g...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark To the learned group(s). I am trying to rejuvenate some GE Monogram portables that were donated to my county EMA. They are described in the attached message below. We were told that some Maxon programming software would work to reprogram them, but this is not working as desired (i.e., not at all). If anyone can point me in the right direction, I'd be much obliged. BTW - this is ALL I know about these radios. If I am violating some list provision by requesting GE programming software - please forgive me. I know that asking for Motorola RSS is punishable by death (or worse), but I don't remember reading something similar about GE software. Thanks in advance! Mark - N9WYS From: Jim_w9att Hi Mark, Thanks again for helping to diagnose the UHF Radios. The programming software we need is for the following UHF Radios: Make: Ericsson GE Model Number: 344A4209P13 Serial Number (of this particular radio in front of me): 9250445 FCC ID # F3JSP2850 DOC/MDC # 287 194 149P That's all the markings that it had. Thanks again for your help in trying to locate the software to program these! Jim
Re: [Repeater-Builder] GE Monogram radios - follow-up
also the plug you show for the computer goes to the serial port. you may need to get a 25 pin to 9 pin but it is NOT a parallel hook up. - Original Message - From: Mark To: g...@yahoogroups.com ; Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com ; ge-...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 11:05 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] GE Monogram radios - follow-up Gentle people, This is in follow-up to the message I posted earlier (below as well). We have obtained copies of the requisite software - THANK YOU! Here is a recap of our difficulties. We started by trying to use Maxon software to reprogram the radios - bad juju, I guess. The problem is that we couldn't seem to select the proper band for programming the radio. The radios are UHF, but the software continued to report they are VHF - with very strange frequency entries as well. There was no option to select the proper band - only the radio type. These are 10-channel radios, so that limited out selections to only two choices. Neither worked properly... When using the Maxon software, in order to exit from the READ RADIO menu, the software says to simply turn off the radio. For us, this doesn't work - we need to physically disconnect the radio as well, re-power the radio and THEN plug the cable back in. And this is when we got the erroneous frequency/band displays. Now that we have the proper GE software, it requires the cable to be on the parallel port for proper operation, so now we have a new problem... I am posting copies of photos of the cable we are using. Does this look like the proper cable? *IF* it is configured for the serial port (as I have been told the Maxon cable is), can a gender bender be used to connect it to the parallel port and have it work properly with the GE software? (In order for this to work, the cable pinouts must be the same for parallel as they are for serial - something I do not know offhand for certain.) Will we be forced to buy the GE programming cable? Or can we re-wire the 25-pin end connector for what we need??? (If someone has the proper pinouts available) Thanks for your assistance so far! Mark - N9WYS -Original Message- From: g...@yahoogroups.com [mailto:g...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark To the learned group(s). I am trying to rejuvenate some GE Monogram portables that were donated to my county EMA. They are described in the attached message below. We were told that some Maxon programming software would work to reprogram them, but this is not working as desired (i.e., not at all). If anyone can point me in the right direction, I'd be much obliged. BTW - this is ALL I know about these radios. If I am violating some list provision by requesting GE programming software - please forgive me. I know that asking for Motorola RSS is punishable by death (or worse), but I don't remember reading something similar about GE software. Thanks in advance! Mark - N9WYS From: Jim_w9att Hi Mark, Thanks again for helping to diagnose the UHF Radios. The programming software we need is for the following UHF Radios: Make: Ericsson GE Model Number: 344A4209P13 Serial Number (of this particular radio in front of me): 9250445 FCC ID # F3JSP2850 DOC/MDC # 287 194 149P That's all the markings that it had. Thanks again for your help in trying to locate the software to program these! Jim
RE: [Repeater-Builder] GE Monogram radios - follow-up
OK, thanks - the GE software we now have requires the parallel port, so it appears that we either need to rewire the plug (and/or use a gender bender) or get the GE cable. From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of Maire-Radios also the plug you show for the computer goes to the serial port. you may need to get a 25 pin to 9 pin but it is NOT a parallel hook up.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] GE Monogram radios - follow-up
never had any Maxon program cables that used a parallel port. - Original Message - From: Mark To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 11:42 AM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] GE Monogram radios - follow-up OK, thanks - the GE software we now have requires the parallel port, so it appears that we either need to rewire the plug (and/or use a gender bender) or get the GE cable. From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of Maire-Radios also the plug you show for the computer goes to the serial port. you may need to get a 25 pin to 9 pin but it is NOT a parallel hook up.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] GE Monogram radios - follow-up
What he said. To use the cable you have you would have to have a 25pin serial port on your computer or an adapter to adapt the cable to your 9 pin port. I was fairly successful at programing a GE Monogram with Maxon software but it was a long time ago so I don't recall if there were any discrepancies. tom - Original Message - From: Maire-Radios To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: 4/8/2009 11:20:58 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] GE Monogram radios - follow-up also the plug you show for the computer goes to the serial port. you may need to get a 25 pin to 9 pin but it is NOT a parallel hook up. - Original Message - From: Mark To: g...@yahoogroups.com ; Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com ; ge-...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 11:05 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] GE Monogram radios - follow-up Gentle people, This is in follow-up to the message I posted earlier (below as well). We have obtained copies of the requisite software - THANK YOU! Here is a recap of our difficulties. We started by trying to use Maxon software to reprogram the radios - bad juju, I guess. The problem is that we couldn't seem to select the proper band for programming the radio. The radios are UHF, but the software continued to report they are VHF - with very strange frequency entries as well. There was no option to select the proper band - only the radio type. These are 10-channel radios, so that limited out selections to only two choices. Neither worked properly... When using the Maxon software, in order to exit from the READ RADIO menu, the software says to simply turn off the radio. For us, this doesn't work - we need to physically disconnect the radio as well, re-power the radio and THEN plug the cable back in. And this is when we got the erroneous frequency/band displays. Now that we have the proper GE software, it requires the cable to be on the parallel port for proper operation, so now we have a new problem... I am posting copies of photos of the cable we are using. Does this look like the proper cable? *IF* it is configured for the serial port (as I have been told the Maxon cable is), can a gender bender be used to connect it to the parallel port and have it work properly with the GE software? (In order for this to work, the cable pinouts must be the same for parallel as they are for serial - something I do not know offhand for certain.) Will we be forced to buy the GE programming cable? Or can we re-wire the 25-pin end connector for what we need??? (If someone has the proper pinouts available) Thanks for your assistance so far! Mark - N9WYS -Original Message- From: g...@yahoogroups.com [mailto:g...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark To the learned group(s). I am trying to rejuvenate some GE Monogram portables that were donated to my county EMA. They are described in the attached message below. We were told that some Maxon programming software would work to reprogram them, but this is not working as desired (i.e., not at all). If anyone can point me in the right direction, I'd be much obliged. BTW - this is ALL I know about these radios. If I am violating some list provision by requesting GE programming software - please forgive me. I know that asking for Motorola RSS is punishable by death (or worse), but I don't remember reading something similar about GE software. Thanks in advance! Mark - N9WYS From: Jim_w9att Hi Mark, Thanks again for helping to diagnose the UHF Radios. The programming software we need is for the following UHF Radios: Make: Ericsson GE Model Number: 344A4209P13 Serial Number (of this particular radio in front of me): 9250445 FCC ID # F3JSP2850 DOC/MDC # 287 194 149P That's all the markings that it had. Thanks again for your help in trying to locate the software to program these! Jim stime1239204057 Description: stime1239204057
RE: [Repeater-Builder] GE Monogram radios - follow-up
You are correct. We now have copies of BOTH the Maxon software AND the GE software. The GE software requires the parallel port. From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Maire-Radios Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 10:50 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] GE Monogram radios - follow-up never had any Maxon program cables that used a parallel port. - Original Message - From: Mark mailto:n9...@ameritech.net To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 11:42 AM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] GE Monogram radios - follow-up OK, thanks - the GE software we now have requires the parallel port, so it appears that we either need to rewire the plug (and/or use a gender bender) or get the GE cable. From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of Maire-Radios also the plug you show for the computer goes to the serial port. you may need to get a 25 pin to 9 pin but it is NOT a parallel hook up.
RE: [Repeater-Builder] GE Monogram radios - follow-up
Maxon cables are serial and GE Monogram cables are parallel. Never had a problem programming a Monogram radio with a Maxon cable. Have never tried a computer faster than a PIII 1ghz machine. Jeff -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 8:06 AM To: g...@yahoogroups.com; Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com; ge-...@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] GE Monogram radios - follow-up Gentle people, This is in follow-up to the message I posted earlier (below as well). We have obtained copies of the requisite software - THANK YOU! Here is a recap of our difficulties. We started by trying to use Maxon software to reprogram the radios - bad juju, I guess. The problem is that we couldn't seem to select the proper band for programming the radio. The radios are UHF, but the software continued to report they are VHF - with very strange frequency entries as well. There was no option to select the proper band - only the radio type. These are 10-channel radios, so that limited out selections to only two choices. Neither worked properly... When using the Maxon software, in order to exit from the READ RADIO menu, the software says to simply turn off the radio. For us, this doesn't work - we need to physically disconnect the radio as well, re-power the radio and THEN plug the cable back in. And this is when we got the erroneous frequency/band displays. Now that we have the proper GE software, it requires the cable to be on the parallel port for proper operation, so now we have a new problem... I am posting copies of photos of the cable we are using. Does this look like the proper cable? *IF* it is configured for the serial port (as I have been told the Maxon cable is), can a gender bender be used to connect it to the parallel port and have it work properly with the GE software? (In order for this to work, the cable pinouts must be the same for parallel as they are for serial - something I do not know offhand for certain.) Will we be forced to buy the GE programming cable? Or can we re-wire the 25-pin end connector for what we need??? (If someone has the proper pinouts available) Thanks for your assistance so far! Mark - N9WYS -Original Message- From: g...@yahoogroups.com [mailto:g...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark To the learned group(s). I am trying to rejuvenate some GE Monogram portables that were donated to my county EMA. They are described in the attached message below. We were told that some Maxon programming software would work to reprogram them, but this is not working as desired (i.e., not at all). If anyone can point me in the right direction, I'd be much obliged. BTW - this is ALL I know about these radios. If I am violating some list provision by requesting GE programming software - please forgive me. I know that asking for Motorola RSS is punishable by death (or worse), but I don't remember reading something similar about GE software. Thanks in advance! Mark - N9WYS From: Jim_w9att Hi Mark, Thanks again for helping to diagnose the UHF Radios. The programming software we need is for the following UHF Radios: Make: Ericsson GE Model Number: 344A4209P13 Serial Number (of this particular radio in front of me): 9250445 FCC ID # F3JSP2850 DOC/MDC # 287 194 149P That's all the markings that it had. Thanks again for your help in trying to locate the software to program these! Jim Yahoo! Groups Links
RE: [Repeater-Builder] GE Monogram radios - follow-up
Jeff, the radio gods must smile upon you, then... as we've had nothing but problems. ;-p We CANNOT program a Monogram radio with the Maxon software, as said in the Wizard of Oz, Not no way, not no how! We can't even get the software to READ the radio correctly, much less program it. And we're using a mid-speed machine - probably an early P-II, if I remember correctly. I guess I/we just don't have the touch... Now if only we could figure out *WHY*, I/we'd be much happier. Mark - N9WYS -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of Yahoo Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 9:18 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] GE Monogram radios - follow-up Maxon cables are serial and GE Monogram cables are parallel. Never had a problem programming a Monogram radio with a Maxon cable. Have never tried a computer faster than a PIII 1ghz machine. Jeff -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 8:06 AM To: g...@yahoogroups.com; Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com; ge-...@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] GE Monogram radios - follow-up Gentle people, This is in follow-up to the message I posted earlier (below as well). We have obtained copies of the requisite software - THANK YOU! Here is a recap of our difficulties. We started by trying to use Maxon software to reprogram the radios - bad juju, I guess. The problem is that we couldn't seem to select the proper band for programming the radio. The radios are UHF, but the software continued to report they are VHF - with very strange frequency entries as well. There was no option to select the proper band - only the radio type. These are 10-channel radios, so that limited out selections to only two choices. Neither worked properly... When using the Maxon software, in order to exit from the READ RADIO menu, the software says to simply turn off the radio. For us, this doesn't work - we need to physically disconnect the radio as well, re-power the radio and THEN plug the cable back in. And this is when we got the erroneous frequency/band displays. Now that we have the proper GE software, it requires the cable to be on the parallel port for proper operation, so now we have a new problem... I am posting copies of photos of the cable we are using. Does this look like the proper cable? *IF* it is configured for the serial port (as I have been told the Maxon cable is), can a gender bender be used to connect it to the parallel port and have it work properly with the GE software? (In order for this to work, the cable pinouts must be the same for parallel as they are for serial - something I do not know offhand for certain.) Will we be forced to buy the GE programming cable? Or can we re-wire the 25-pin end connector for what we need??? (If someone has the proper pinouts available) Thanks for your assistance so far! Mark - N9WYS