RE: [Repeater-Builder] GE Monogram radios - follow-up

2009-04-09 Thread Mark
Jeff,

I wish I could answer those questions directly... but I'll have to check.
I'm not the guy who is trying to do this, I am an intermediary.  (The guy
doing the work is not a list subscriber.)

But I will forward this to the guy who is doing the work, get an answer and
report back with the answers.

Mark - N9WYS

-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of Yahoo

What is the version of software you are using and are you programming from
DOS or windowed to DOS? What version of windows?

Jeff 

-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com  On Behalf Of Mark

Jeff, the radio gods must smile upon you, then... as we've had nothing but
problems.  ;-p 

We CANNOT program a Monogram radio with the Maxon software, as said in the
Wizard of Oz, Not no way, not no how!  We can't even get the software to
READ the radio correctly, much less program it.

And we're using a mid-speed machine - probably an early P-II, if I remember
correctly.

I guess I/we just don't have the touch...  Now if only we could figure out
*WHY*, I/we'd be much happier.

Mark - N9WYS



RE: [Repeater-Builder] GE Monogram radios - follow-up

2009-04-09 Thread Yahoo
What is the version of software you are using and are you programming from
DOS or windowed to DOS? What version of windows?

Jeff 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark
Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 8:56 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] GE Monogram radios - follow-up

Jeff, the radio gods must smile upon you, then... as we've had nothing but
problems.  ;-p 

We CANNOT program a Monogram radio with the Maxon software, as said in the
Wizard of Oz, Not no way, not no how!  We can't even get the software to
READ the radio correctly, much less program it.

And we're using a mid-speed machine - probably an early P-II, if I remember
correctly.

I guess I/we just don't have the touch...  Now if only we could figure out
*WHY*, I/we'd be much happier.

Mark - N9WYS

-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com  On Behalf Of Yahoo
Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 9:18 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] GE Monogram radios - follow-up

Maxon cables are serial and GE Monogram cables are parallel. Never had a
problem programming a Monogram radio with a Maxon cable. Have never tried a
computer faster than a PIII 1ghz machine.

Jeff 

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[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark
Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 8:06 AM
To: g...@yahoogroups.com; Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com;
ge-...@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] GE Monogram radios - follow-up

Gentle people,

This is in follow-up to the message I posted earlier (below as well).  We
have obtained copies of the requisite software - THANK YOU!

Here is a recap of our difficulties.  We started by trying to use Maxon
software to reprogram the radios - bad juju, I guess.  The problem is that
we couldn't seem to select the proper band for programming the radio.  The
radios are UHF, but the software continued to report they are VHF - with
very strange frequency entries as well.  There was no option to select the
proper band - only the radio type.  These are 10-channel radios, so that
limited out selections to only two choices.  Neither worked properly...  

When using the Maxon software, in order to exit from the READ RADIO menu,
the software says to simply turn off the radio.  For us, this doesn't work -
we need to physically disconnect the radio as well, re-power the radio and
THEN plug the cable back in.  And this is when we got the erroneous
frequency/band displays.  Now that we have the proper GE software, it
requires the cable to be on the parallel port for proper operation, so now
we have a new problem... 

I am posting copies of photos of the cable we are using.  Does this look
like the proper cable?  *IF* it is configured for the serial port (as I have
been told the Maxon cable is), can a gender bender be used to connect it
to the parallel port and have it work properly with the GE software?  (In
order for this to work, the cable pinouts must be the same for parallel as
they are for serial - something I do not know offhand for certain.)  Will we
be forced to buy the GE programming cable?  Or can we re-wire the 25-pin end
connector for what we need??? (If someone has the proper pinouts available)

Thanks for your assistance so far!
Mark - N9WYS







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Re: [Repeater-Builder] GE Monogram radios - follow-up

2009-04-09 Thread NORM KNAPP
I use a maxon eprom programmer. Seems to work pretty well on the mobiles anyways

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To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu Apr 09 22:23:01 2009
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] GE Monogram radios - follow-up



Jeff,

I wish I could answer those questions directly... but I'll have to check.
I'm not the guy who is trying to do this, I am an intermediary. (The guy
doing the work is not a list subscriber.)

But I will forward this to the guy who is doing the work, get an answer and
report back with the answers.

Mark - N9WYS

-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com  On Behalf Of Yahoo

What is the version of software you are using and are you programming from
DOS or windowed to DOS? What version of windows?

Jeff 

-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com  On Behalf Of Mark

Jeff, the radio gods must smile upon you, then... as we've had nothing but
problems. ;-p 

We CANNOT program a Monogram radio with the Maxon software, as said in the
Wizard of Oz, Not no way, not no how! We can't even get the software to
READ the radio correctly, much less program it.

And we're using a mid-speed machine - probably an early P-II, if I remember
correctly.

I guess I/we just don't have the touch... Now if only we could figure out
*WHY*, I/we'd be much happier.

Mark - N9WYS






Re: [Repeater-Builder] GE Monogram radios - follow-up

2009-04-08 Thread Maire-Radios
At one time we were a Maxon dealer and the software we got from Maxon would not 
work into the GE radio's but the GE radio's were made for them by Maxon.  There 
was talk of a software that could be mod to work but never seen it.

John


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  From: Mark 
  To: g...@yahoogroups.com ; Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com ; 
ge-...@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 11:05 AM
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] GE Monogram radios - follow-up





  Gentle people,

  This is in follow-up to the message I posted earlier (below as well). We
  have obtained copies of the requisite software - THANK YOU!

  Here is a recap of our difficulties. We started by trying to use Maxon
  software to reprogram the radios - bad juju, I guess. The problem is that
  we couldn't seem to select the proper band for programming the radio. The
  radios are UHF, but the software continued to report they are VHF - with
  very strange frequency entries as well. There was no option to select the
  proper band - only the radio type. These are 10-channel radios, so that
  limited out selections to only two choices. Neither worked properly... 

  When using the Maxon software, in order to exit from the READ RADIO menu,
  the software says to simply turn off the radio. For us, this doesn't work -
  we need to physically disconnect the radio as well, re-power the radio and
  THEN plug the cable back in. And this is when we got the erroneous
  frequency/band displays. Now that we have the proper GE software, it
  requires the cable to be on the parallel port for proper operation, so now
  we have a new problem... 

  I am posting copies of photos of the cable we are using. Does this look
  like the proper cable? *IF* it is configured for the serial port (as I have
  been told the Maxon cable is), can a gender bender be used to connect it
  to the parallel port and have it work properly with the GE software? (In
  order for this to work, the cable pinouts must be the same for parallel as
  they are for serial - something I do not know offhand for certain.) Will we
  be forced to buy the GE programming cable? Or can we re-wire the 25-pin end
  connector for what we need??? (If someone has the proper pinouts available)

  Thanks for your assistance so far!
  Mark - N9WYS

  -Original Message-
  From: g...@yahoogroups.com [mailto:g...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark

  To the learned group(s).

  I am trying to rejuvenate some GE Monogram portables that were donated to
  my county EMA. They are described in the attached message below. We were
  told that some Maxon programming software would work to reprogram them, but
  this is not working as desired (i.e., not at all). 

  If anyone can point me in the right direction, I'd be much obliged. BTW -
  this is ALL I know about these radios. If I am violating some list
  provision by requesting GE programming software - please forgive me. I know
  that asking for Motorola RSS is punishable by death (or worse), but I don't
  remember reading something similar about GE software.

  Thanks in advance!
  Mark - N9WYS

  From: Jim_w9att 

  Hi Mark,

  Thanks again for helping to diagnose the UHF Radios. The programming
  software we need is for the following UHF Radios:

  Make: Ericsson GE
  Model Number: 344A4209P13
  Serial Number (of this particular radio in front of me): 9250445
  FCC ID # F3JSP2850
  DOC/MDC # 287 194 149P

  That's all the markings that it had. Thanks again for your help in trying
  to locate the software to program these!

  Jim



  

Re: [Repeater-Builder] GE Monogram radios - follow-up

2009-04-08 Thread Maire-Radios
also the plug you show for the computer goes to the serial port.  you may need 
to get a 25 pin to 9 pin but it is NOT a parallel hook up.


  - Original Message - 
  From: Mark 
  To: g...@yahoogroups.com ; Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com ; 
ge-...@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 11:05 AM
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] GE Monogram radios - follow-up





  Gentle people,

  This is in follow-up to the message I posted earlier (below as well). We
  have obtained copies of the requisite software - THANK YOU!

  Here is a recap of our difficulties. We started by trying to use Maxon
  software to reprogram the radios - bad juju, I guess. The problem is that
  we couldn't seem to select the proper band for programming the radio. The
  radios are UHF, but the software continued to report they are VHF - with
  very strange frequency entries as well. There was no option to select the
  proper band - only the radio type. These are 10-channel radios, so that
  limited out selections to only two choices. Neither worked properly... 

  When using the Maxon software, in order to exit from the READ RADIO menu,
  the software says to simply turn off the radio. For us, this doesn't work -
  we need to physically disconnect the radio as well, re-power the radio and
  THEN plug the cable back in. And this is when we got the erroneous
  frequency/band displays. Now that we have the proper GE software, it
  requires the cable to be on the parallel port for proper operation, so now
  we have a new problem... 

  I am posting copies of photos of the cable we are using. Does this look
  like the proper cable? *IF* it is configured for the serial port (as I have
  been told the Maxon cable is), can a gender bender be used to connect it
  to the parallel port and have it work properly with the GE software? (In
  order for this to work, the cable pinouts must be the same for parallel as
  they are for serial - something I do not know offhand for certain.) Will we
  be forced to buy the GE programming cable? Or can we re-wire the 25-pin end
  connector for what we need??? (If someone has the proper pinouts available)

  Thanks for your assistance so far!
  Mark - N9WYS

  -Original Message-
  From: g...@yahoogroups.com [mailto:g...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark

  To the learned group(s).

  I am trying to rejuvenate some GE Monogram portables that were donated to
  my county EMA. They are described in the attached message below. We were
  told that some Maxon programming software would work to reprogram them, but
  this is not working as desired (i.e., not at all). 

  If anyone can point me in the right direction, I'd be much obliged. BTW -
  this is ALL I know about these radios. If I am violating some list
  provision by requesting GE programming software - please forgive me. I know
  that asking for Motorola RSS is punishable by death (or worse), but I don't
  remember reading something similar about GE software.

  Thanks in advance!
  Mark - N9WYS

  From: Jim_w9att 

  Hi Mark,

  Thanks again for helping to diagnose the UHF Radios. The programming
  software we need is for the following UHF Radios:

  Make: Ericsson GE
  Model Number: 344A4209P13
  Serial Number (of this particular radio in front of me): 9250445
  FCC ID # F3JSP2850
  DOC/MDC # 287 194 149P

  That's all the markings that it had. Thanks again for your help in trying
  to locate the software to program these!

  Jim



  

RE: [Repeater-Builder] GE Monogram radios - follow-up

2009-04-08 Thread Mark
OK, thanks - the GE software we now have requires the parallel port, so it
appears that we either need to rewire the plug (and/or use a gender bender)
or get the GE cable.

 

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com  On Behalf Of Maire-Radios

 

also the plug you show for the computer goes to the serial port.  you may
need to get a 25 pin to 9 pin but it is NOT a parallel hook up.



Re: [Repeater-Builder] GE Monogram radios - follow-up

2009-04-08 Thread Maire-Radios
never had any Maxon program cables that used a parallel port.


  - Original Message - 
  From: Mark 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 11:42 AM
  Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] GE Monogram radios - follow-up



  OK, thanks - the GE software we now have requires the parallel port, so it 
appears that we either need to rewire the plug (and/or use a gender bender) or 
get the GE cable.

  From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com  On Behalf Of Maire-Radios

  also the plug you show for the computer goes to the serial port.  you may 
need to get a 25 pin to 9 pin but it is NOT a parallel hook up.

  

Re: [Repeater-Builder] GE Monogram radios - follow-up

2009-04-08 Thread Thomas Oliver
What he said.

To use the cable you have you would have to have a 25pin serial port on your 
computer or an adapter to adapt the cable to your 9 pin port.

I was fairly successful at programing a GE Monogram with Maxon software but it 
was a long time ago so I don't recall if there were any discrepancies.
tom


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From: Maire-Radios 
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: 4/8/2009 11:20:58 AM 
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] GE Monogram radios - follow-up


also the plug you show for the computer goes to the serial port.  you may need 
to get a 25 pin to 9 pin but it is NOT a parallel hook up.


- Original Message - 
From: Mark 
To: g...@yahoogroups.com ; Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com ; 
ge-...@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 11:05 AM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] GE Monogram radios - follow-up


Gentle people,

This is in follow-up to the message I posted earlier (below as well). We
have obtained copies of the requisite software - THANK YOU!

Here is a recap of our difficulties. We started by trying to use Maxon
software to reprogram the radios - bad juju, I guess. The problem is that
we couldn't seem to select the proper band for programming the radio. The
radios are UHF, but the software continued to report they are VHF - with
very strange frequency entries as well. There was no option to select the
proper band - only the radio type. These are 10-channel radios, so that
limited out selections to only two choices. Neither worked properly... 

When using the Maxon software, in order to exit from the READ RADIO menu,
the software says to simply turn off the radio. For us, this doesn't work -
we need to physically disconnect the radio as well, re-power the radio and
THEN plug the cable back in. And this is when we got the erroneous
frequency/band displays. Now that we have the proper GE software, it
requires the cable to be on the parallel port for proper operation, so now
we have a new problem... 

I am posting copies of photos of the cable we are using. Does this look
like the proper cable? *IF* it is configured for the serial port (as I have
been told the Maxon cable is), can a gender bender be used to connect it
to the parallel port and have it work properly with the GE software? (In
order for this to work, the cable pinouts must be the same for parallel as
they are for serial - something I do not know offhand for certain.) Will we
be forced to buy the GE programming cable? Or can we re-wire the 25-pin end
connector for what we need??? (If someone has the proper pinouts available)

Thanks for your assistance so far!
Mark - N9WYS

-Original Message-
From: g...@yahoogroups.com [mailto:g...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark

To the learned group(s).

I am trying to rejuvenate some GE Monogram portables that were donated to
my county EMA. They are described in the attached message below. We were
told that some Maxon programming software would work to reprogram them, but
this is not working as desired (i.e., not at all). 

If anyone can point me in the right direction, I'd be much obliged. BTW -
this is ALL I know about these radios. If I am violating some list
provision by requesting GE programming software - please forgive me. I know
that asking for Motorola RSS is punishable by death (or worse), but I don't
remember reading something similar about GE software.

Thanks in advance!
Mark - N9WYS

From: Jim_w9att 

Hi Mark,

Thanks again for helping to diagnose the UHF Radios. The programming
software we need is for the following UHF Radios:

Make: Ericsson GE
Model Number: 344A4209P13
Serial Number (of this particular radio in front of me): 9250445
FCC ID # F3JSP2850
DOC/MDC # 287 194 149P

That's all the markings that it had. Thanks again for your help in trying
to locate the software to program these!

Jim







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RE: [Repeater-Builder] GE Monogram radios - follow-up

2009-04-08 Thread Mark
You are correct. We now have copies of BOTH the Maxon software AND the GE
software.  The GE software requires the parallel port.

 

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Maire-Radios
Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 10:50 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
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never had any Maxon program cables that used a parallel port.

 

 

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From: Mark mailto:n9...@ameritech.net  

To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 

Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 11:42 AM

Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] GE Monogram radios - follow-up

 

OK, thanks - the GE software we now have requires the parallel port, so it
appears that we either need to rewire the plug (and/or use a gender bender)
or get the GE cable.

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com  On Behalf Of Maire-Radios

also the plug you show for the computer goes to the serial port.  you may
need to get a 25 pin to 9 pin but it is NOT a parallel hook up.



RE: [Repeater-Builder] GE Monogram radios - follow-up

2009-04-08 Thread Yahoo
Maxon cables are serial and GE Monogram cables are parallel. Never had a
problem programming a Monogram radio with a Maxon cable. Have never tried a
computer faster than a PIII 1ghz machine.

Jeff 

-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark
Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 8:06 AM
To: g...@yahoogroups.com; Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com;
ge-...@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] GE Monogram radios - follow-up

Gentle people,

This is in follow-up to the message I posted earlier (below as well).  We
have obtained copies of the requisite software - THANK YOU!

Here is a recap of our difficulties.  We started by trying to use Maxon
software to reprogram the radios - bad juju, I guess.  The problem is that
we couldn't seem to select the proper band for programming the radio.  The
radios are UHF, but the software continued to report they are VHF - with
very strange frequency entries as well.  There was no option to select the
proper band - only the radio type.  These are 10-channel radios, so that
limited out selections to only two choices.  Neither worked properly...  

When using the Maxon software, in order to exit from the READ RADIO menu,
the software says to simply turn off the radio.  For us, this doesn't work -
we need to physically disconnect the radio as well, re-power the radio and
THEN plug the cable back in.  And this is when we got the erroneous
frequency/band displays.  Now that we have the proper GE software, it
requires the cable to be on the parallel port for proper operation, so now
we have a new problem... 

I am posting copies of photos of the cable we are using.  Does this look
like the proper cable?  *IF* it is configured for the serial port (as I have
been told the Maxon cable is), can a gender bender be used to connect it
to the parallel port and have it work properly with the GE software?  (In
order for this to work, the cable pinouts must be the same for parallel as
they are for serial - something I do not know offhand for certain.)  Will we
be forced to buy the GE programming cable?  Or can we re-wire the 25-pin end
connector for what we need??? (If someone has the proper pinouts available)

Thanks for your assistance so far!
Mark - N9WYS


-Original Message-
From: g...@yahoogroups.com [mailto:g...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark

To the learned group(s).

I am trying to rejuvenate some GE Monogram portables that were donated to
my county EMA.  They are described in the attached message below.  We were
told that some Maxon programming software would work to reprogram them, but
this is not working as desired (i.e., not at all).   

If anyone can point me in the right direction, I'd be much obliged.  BTW -
this is ALL I know about these radios.  If I am violating some list
provision by requesting GE programming software - please forgive me. I know
that asking for Motorola RSS is punishable by death (or worse), but I don't
remember reading something similar about GE software.

Thanks in advance!
Mark - N9WYS

From: Jim_w9att 

Hi Mark,

Thanks again for helping to diagnose the UHF Radios.  The programming
software we need is for the following UHF Radios:

Make:  Ericsson GE
Model Number:  344A4209P13
Serial Number (of this particular radio in front of me):  9250445 FCC ID #
F3JSP2850 DOC/MDC # 287 194 149P

That's all the markings that it had.  Thanks again for your help in trying
to locate the software to program these!

Jim







Yahoo! Groups Links






RE: [Repeater-Builder] GE Monogram radios - follow-up

2009-04-08 Thread Mark
Jeff, the radio gods must smile upon you, then... as we've had nothing but
problems.  ;-p 

We CANNOT program a Monogram radio with the Maxon software, as said in the
Wizard of Oz, Not no way, not no how!  We can't even get the software to
READ the radio correctly, much less program it.

And we're using a mid-speed machine - probably an early P-II, if I remember
correctly.

I guess I/we just don't have the touch...  Now if only we could figure out
*WHY*, I/we'd be much happier.

Mark - N9WYS

-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com  On Behalf Of Yahoo
Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 9:18 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] GE Monogram radios - follow-up

Maxon cables are serial and GE Monogram cables are parallel. Never had a
problem programming a Monogram radio with a Maxon cable. Have never tried a
computer faster than a PIII 1ghz machine.

Jeff 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark
Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 8:06 AM
To: g...@yahoogroups.com; Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com;
ge-...@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] GE Monogram radios - follow-up

Gentle people,

This is in follow-up to the message I posted earlier (below as well).  We
have obtained copies of the requisite software - THANK YOU!

Here is a recap of our difficulties.  We started by trying to use Maxon
software to reprogram the radios - bad juju, I guess.  The problem is that
we couldn't seem to select the proper band for programming the radio.  The
radios are UHF, but the software continued to report they are VHF - with
very strange frequency entries as well.  There was no option to select the
proper band - only the radio type.  These are 10-channel radios, so that
limited out selections to only two choices.  Neither worked properly...  

When using the Maxon software, in order to exit from the READ RADIO menu,
the software says to simply turn off the radio.  For us, this doesn't work -
we need to physically disconnect the radio as well, re-power the radio and
THEN plug the cable back in.  And this is when we got the erroneous
frequency/band displays.  Now that we have the proper GE software, it
requires the cable to be on the parallel port for proper operation, so now
we have a new problem... 

I am posting copies of photos of the cable we are using.  Does this look
like the proper cable?  *IF* it is configured for the serial port (as I have
been told the Maxon cable is), can a gender bender be used to connect it
to the parallel port and have it work properly with the GE software?  (In
order for this to work, the cable pinouts must be the same for parallel as
they are for serial - something I do not know offhand for certain.)  Will we
be forced to buy the GE programming cable?  Or can we re-wire the 25-pin end
connector for what we need??? (If someone has the proper pinouts available)

Thanks for your assistance so far!
Mark - N9WYS