Re: [Repeater-Builder] GROL - benefit?

2004-10-23 Thread Q


It is still required for servicing certain classes of stations,like marine
commercial that carry passengers for hire. It is also a benchmark of your
expertise in the field as certified by our fed gov'tand it looks good
hanging on the wall too!
Naber? That your real name? Ironic that the one certifiying organization is
called NABER!!!
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 howdy all,

  what's the benefit of getting a GROL license?

 ~Ben, KB9LFZ



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Re: [Repeater-Builder] GROL - benefit?

2004-10-23 Thread mch

Not for several years now. They changed to PCIA.

Joe M.

Q wrote:
 
 Ironic that the one certifiying organization is called NABER!!!





 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] GROL - benefit?

2004-10-22 Thread grizzarv

 From: russ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 11:01:57 -0400
 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] GROL - benefit?

I wish it had been that simple.

I was 19, with a second class commercial radiotelephone license so new
the ink wasn't dry yet (and since the FCC ran them off en masse on a
line printer that is saying something).  I interviewed for a job based
on the license, and the gentleman I was talking to said, You have a
second 'phone?  I do too -- had to take the test three times [I think;
this was a while ago] before I passed it.  How many times did you test
before you passed?  Being honest, I said, Only once.  Well, he
straightened right up in his chair, went from friendly and curious to
polite, and said, I do have some other candidates for the position, but
I will definitely keep you in mind.  Thank you for coming to see me
today.

I sorta' had the sinking feeling that he wasn't going to offer me a job,
and so far he hasn't.  I think it was that only that torpedoed my
chances.

de kg7yy

 To but it simple. It will get you in the door. Then it is up to you.
 73 Russ,




 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] GROL - benefit?

2004-10-22 Thread russ

I was 15 with a 3rd class and endorsed for broadcast got a job after school
with a day time 500 watt omni. Even moved up to coming in before school to
cue up the farm report. Then I went to school up north by then I had a 2nd
class. The nice man at a station near school told me I needed a 1st to work
there. The testing never ended back then smile.
I got a 1st.
I did get the job but I got married and had to get a real job my lovely
bride told me one day smile. Now I own a station. grin
Good luck on your new GROL!
73 Russ, W3CH

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  From: russ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 11:01:57 -0400
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] GROL - benefit?

 I wish it had been that simple.

 I was 19, with a second class commercial radiotelephone license so new
 the ink wasn't dry yet (and since the FCC ran them off en masse on a
 line printer that is saying something).  I interviewed for a job based
 on the license, and the gentleman I was talking to said, You have a
 second 'phone?  I do too -- had to take the test three times [I think;
 this was a while ago] before I passed it.  How many times did you test
 before you passed?  Being honest, I said, Only once.  Well, he
 straightened right up in his chair, went from friendly and curious to
 polite, and said, I do have some other candidates for the position, but
 I will definitely keep you in mind.  Thank you for coming to see me
 today.

 I sorta' had the sinking feeling that he wasn't going to offer me a job,
 and so far he hasn't.  I think it was that only that torpedoed my
 chances.

 de kg7yy

  To but it simple. It will get you in the door. Then it is up to you.
  73 Russ,





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Re: [Repeater-Builder] GROL - benefit?

2004-10-22 Thread Neal Newman






Hey Russ...
I was out in West Chester PA 2 weeks ago... I wanted to Visit the
station. But did not know where you were located...

Neal

russ wrote:

  I was 15 with a 3rd class and endorsed for broadcast got a job after school
with a day time 500 watt omni. Even moved up to coming in before school to
cue up the farm report. Then I went to school up north by then I had a 2nd
class. The nice man at a station near school told me I needed a 1st to work
there. The testing never ended back then smile.
I got a 1st.
I did get the job but I got married and had to get a real job my lovely
bride told me one day smile. Now I own a station. grin
Good luck on your new GROL!
73 Russ, W3CH

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  From: "russ" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 11:01:57 -0400
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] GROL - benefit?
  

I wish it had been that simple.

I was 19, with a second class commercial radiotelephone license so new
the ink wasn't dry yet (and since the FCC ran them off en masse on a
line printer that is saying something).  I interviewed for a job based
on the license, and the gentleman I was talking to said, "You have a
second 'phone?  I do too -- had to take the test three times [I think;
this was a while ago] before I passed it.  How many times did you test
before you passed?"  Being honest, I said, "Only once".  Well, he
straightened right up in his chair, went from friendly and curious to
polite, and said, "I do have some other candidates for the position, but
I will definitely keep you in mind.  Thank you for coming to see me
today".

I sorta' had the sinking feeling that he wasn't going to offer me a job,
and so far he hasn't.  I think it was that "only" that torpedoed my
chances.

de kg7yy



  To but it simple. It will get you in the door. Then it is up to you.
73 Russ,
  





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Re: [Repeater-Builder] GROL - benefit?

2004-10-22 Thread russ





Hey Neil,
You should have let me know you where close. The Station is in Philly PA. 
but I could have run out to West Chester an picked you up. 
Very best of 73,
Russ, W3CH


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  From: 
  Neal Newman 
  
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 12:49 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] GROL - 
  benefit?
  Hey Russ...I was out in West Chester PA 2 weeks 
  ago... I wanted to Visit the station. But did not know where you were 
  located...Nealruss wrote:
  I was 15 with a 3rd class and endorsed for broadcast got a job after school
with a day time 500 watt omni. Even moved up to coming in before school to
cue up the farm report. Then I went to school up north by then I had a 2nd
class. The nice man at a station near school told me I needed a 1st to work
there. The testing never ended back then smile.
I got a 1st.
I did get the job but I got married and had to get a real job my lovely
bride told me one day smile. Now I own a station. grin
Good luck on your new GROL!
73 Russ, W3CH

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  From: "russ" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 11:01:57 -0400
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] GROL - benefit?
  I wish it had been that simple.

I was 19, with a second class commercial radiotelephone license so new
the ink wasn't dry yet (and since the FCC ran them off en masse on a
line printer that is saying something).  I interviewed for a job based
on the license, and the gentleman I was talking to said, "You have a
second 'phone?  I do too -- had to take the test three times [I think;
this was a while ago] before I passed it.  How many times did you test
before you passed?"  Being honest, I said, "Only once".  Well, he
straightened right up in his chair, went from friendly and curious to
polite, and said, "I do have some other candidates for the position, but
I will definitely keep you in mind.  Thank you for coming to see me
today".

I sorta' had the sinking feeling that he wasn't going to offer me a job,
and so far he hasn't.  I think it was that "only" that torpedoed my
chances.

de kg7yy


  To but it simple. It will get you in the door. Then it is up to you.
73 Russ,
  


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Re: [Repeater-Builder] GROL - benefit?

2004-10-22 Thread Neal Newman






Thanks Russ...
In was actually out at Magoriee Labs with Paul..
I was in a mood to take my New Harley out for a spin... I am only 45
Mins to an hour From Phily. would Love to take another Ride on a nice
day...
Send along an address andPhone # off the group

Neal-KA2CAF
CE/CO
WTTM,WYGG,WUPC,W220AA

russ wrote:

  
  
  
  
  Hey Neil,
  You should have let me know you where close. The Station is in
Philly PA. but I could have run out to West Chester an picked you up. 
  Very best of 73,
  Russ, W3CH
  
  
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Sent:
Friday, October 22, 2004 12:49 AM
Subject:
Re: [Repeater-Builder] GROL - benefit?


Hey Russ...
I was out in West Chester PA 2 weeks ago... I wanted to Visit the
station. But did not know where you were located...

Neal

russ wrote:

  I was 15 with a 3rd class and endorsed for broadcast got a job after school
with a day time 500 watt omni. Even moved up to coming in before school to
cue up the farm report. Then I went to school up north by then I had a 2nd
class. The nice man at a station near school told me I needed a 1st to work
there. The testing never ended back then smile.
I got a 1st.
I did get the job but I got married and had to get a real job my lovely
bride told me one day smile. Now I own a station. grin
Good luck on your new GROL!
73 Russ, W3CH

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Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 11:26 PM
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  From: "russ" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 11:01:57 -0400
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] GROL - benefit?
  

I wish it had been that simple.

I was 19, with a second class commercial radiotelephone license so new
the ink wasn't dry yet (and since the FCC ran them off en masse on a
line printer that is saying something).  I interviewed for a job based
on the license, and the gentleman I was talking to said, "You have a
second 'phone?  I do too -- had to take the test three times [I think;
this was a while ago] before I passed it.  How many times did you test
before you passed?"  Being honest, I said, "Only once".  Well, he
straightened right up in his chair, went from friendly and curious to
polite, and said, "I do have some other candidates for the position, but
I will definitely keep you in mind.  Thank you for coming to see me
today".

I sorta' had the sinking feeling that he wasn't going to offer me a job,
and so far he hasn't.  I think it was that "only" that torpedoed my
chances.

de kg7yy



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73 Russ,
  



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Re: [Repeater-Builder] GROL - benefit?

2004-10-21 Thread James







I have my amateur, GROL, and state license for those very reasons (as
well as the state license being a requirement)

James

Joe wrote:

  It may not have any official benefit to many jobs, but it certainly can be 
an advantage as an additional factor on a resume.  This also applies for an 
amateur radio license.  It demonstrates that you have an interest in radio 
and have the ability to learn about a subject and pass an aptitude 
test.  It may just be what gets you the interview, but probably will not 
what will get you the job.

73, Joe, k1ike

At 06:12 PM 10/20/2004, you wrote:

  
  
howdy all,

 what's the benefit of getting a GROL license?

~Ben, KB9LFZ

  
  
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] GROL - benefit?

2004-10-21 Thread Tony lelieveld










I remember years ago there was an article
in an MRT magazine about a TV station owner who had a ham working
for him as a tech. While travelling to an out of town location to do a
remote, they had lost the feed-horn from a link dish. The owner stated the
tech made a temporary feed by taking a piece of coaxial cable stripping the
insulation back, folding the braid and center conductor to create a dipole and
used it It saved the day. He again said whenever I
get a job applicant and if his/her resume shows being a HAM operator guess what
Just goes to show you that it does have value.



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It may not have any official benefit to many jobs, but it certainly can be an advantage as an additional factor on a resume. This also applies for an amateur radio license. It demonstrates that you have an interest in radio and have the ability to learn about a subject and pass an aptitude test. It may just be what gets you the interview, but probably will not what will get you the job.73, Joe, k1ike
















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Re: [Repeater-Builder] GROL - benefit?

2004-10-21 Thread Jim B.

Joe wrote:

 It may not have any official benefit to many jobs, but it certainly can be 
 an advantage as an additional factor on a resume.  This also applies for an 
 amateur radio license.  It demonstrates that you have an interest in radio 
 and have the ability to learn about a subject and pass an aptitude 
 test.  It may just be what gets you the interview, but probably will not 
 what will get you the job.
 
 73, Joe, k1ike
 
 At 06:12 PM 10/20/2004, you wrote:
 
 
howdy all,

 what's the benefit of getting a GROL license?

~Ben, KB9LFZ
 
 

A lot of two-way radio shops require either a GROL or an equivalent 
certification from, say, APCO or PCIA (used to be NABER as a matter of 
fact), or one of several others.
-- 
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WD8CHL





 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] GROL - benefit?

2004-10-21 Thread russ

To but it simple. It will get you in the door. Then it is up to you.
73 Russ,

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 Joe wrote:

  It may not have any official benefit to many jobs, but it certainly can
be
  an advantage as an additional factor on a resume.  This also applies for
an
  amateur radio license.  It demonstrates that you have an interest in
radio
  and have the ability to learn about a subject and pass an aptitude
  test.  It may just be what gets you the interview, but probably will not
  what will get you the job.
 
  73, Joe, k1ike
 
  At 06:12 PM 10/20/2004, you wrote:
 
 
 howdy all,
 
  what's the benefit of getting a GROL license?
 
 ~Ben, KB9LFZ
 
 

 A lot of two-way radio shops require either a GROL or an equivalent
 certification from, say, APCO or PCIA (used to be NABER as a matter of
 fact), or one of several others.
 -- 
 Jim Barbour
 WD8CHL






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Re: [Repeater-Builder] GROL - benefit?

2004-10-21 Thread Neil McKie


  I have the GROL, the APCO and the PCIA equivalents. 

  Neil - WA6KLA 
  

Jim B. wrote:
 
 Joe wrote:
 
  It may not have any official benefit to many jobs, but it certainly can be
  an advantage as an additional factor on a resume.  This also applies for an
  amateur radio license.  It demonstrates that you have an interest in radio
  and have the ability to learn about a subject and pass an aptitude
  test.  It may just be what gets you the interview, but probably will not
  what will get you the job.
 
  73, Joe, k1ike
 
  At 06:12 PM 10/20/2004, you wrote:
 
 
 howdy all,
 
  what's the benefit of getting a GROL license?
 
 ~Ben, KB9LFZ
 
 
 
 A lot of two-way radio shops require either a GROL or an equivalent
 certification from, say, APCO or PCIA (used to be NABER as a matter of
 fact), or one of several others.
 --
 Jim Barbour
 WD8CHL
 
 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] GROL - benefit?

2004-10-21 Thread Benjamin Naber

HAHAHA.. that's my last name! 

 Ben Naber, KB9LFZ



--- Jim B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Joe wrote:
 
  It may not have any official benefit to many jobs,
 but it certainly can be 
  an advantage as an additional factor on a resume. 
 This also applies for an 
  amateur radio license.  It demonstrates that you
 have an interest in radio 
  and have the ability to learn about a subject and
 pass an aptitude 
  test.  It may just be what gets you the interview,
 but probably will not 
  what will get you the job.
  
  73, Joe, k1ike
  
  At 06:12 PM 10/20/2004, you wrote:
  
  
 howdy all,
 
  what's the benefit of getting a GROL license?
 
 ~Ben, KB9LFZ
  
  
 
 A lot of two-way radio shops require either a GROL
 or an equivalent 
 certification from, say, APCO or PCIA (used to be
 NABER as a matter of 
 fact), or one of several others.
 -- 
 Jim Barbour
 WD8CHL
 
 
 
 
 
  
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] GROL - benefit?

2004-10-21 Thread W9DHI

It used to be the name of PCIA long ago...it stood for National Association
of Business and Educational Radio.
Also Naber Certified, PCIA Certified, FCC RadioTelephone ad naseum.


Gregg R. Lengling, W9DHI, Retired
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Member:  ARRL, RSGB, RCA, WERA and ORC
 


-Original Message-
From: Benjamin Naber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
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HAHAHA.. that's my last name! 

 Ben Naber, KB9LFZ



--- Jim B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Joe wrote:
 
  It may not have any official benefit to many jobs,
 but it certainly can be 
  an advantage as an additional factor on a resume. 
 This also applies for an 
  amateur radio license.  It demonstrates that you
 have an interest in radio 
  and have the ability to learn about a subject and
 pass an aptitude 
  test.  It may just be what gets you the interview,
 but probably will not 
  what will get you the job.
  
  73, Joe, k1ike
  
  At 06:12 PM 10/20/2004, you wrote:
  
  
 howdy all,
 
  what's the benefit of getting a GROL license?
 
 ~Ben, KB9LFZ
  
  
 
 A lot of two-way radio shops require either a GROL
 or an equivalent 
 certification from, say, APCO or PCIA (used to be
 NABER as a matter of 
 fact), or one of several others.
 -- 
 Jim Barbour
 WD8CHL
 
 
 
 
 
  
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[Repeater-Builder] GROL - benefit?

2004-10-20 Thread Benjamin Naber

howdy all,

 what's the benefit of getting a GROL license?

~Ben, KB9LFZ



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Re: [Repeater-Builder] GROL - benefit?

2004-10-20 Thread W1LKE





Required to service avionics and maritime electronics.


Chris Wilkie
W1LKE
(soon to be GROL, too)













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Re: [Repeater-Builder] GROL - benefit?

2004-10-20 Thread Joe

It may not have any official benefit to many jobs, but it certainly can be 
an advantage as an additional factor on a resume.  This also applies for an 
amateur radio license.  It demonstrates that you have an interest in radio 
and have the ability to learn about a subject and pass an aptitude 
test.  It may just be what gets you the interview, but probably will not 
what will get you the job.

73, Joe, k1ike

At 06:12 PM 10/20/2004, you wrote:

howdy all,

  what's the benefit of getting a GROL license?

~Ben, KB9LFZ

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