Re: [Repeater-Builder] New 10mtr Repeater Active from Auckland, NZ (ZL Land) - Slightly OT
Gmail - Kevin, Natalia, Stacey & Rochelle wrote: > Hi Eric, > > In responce to your email. > > In NZ the regulary body (Govt) states that access to any Amateur > Radio installion must be available to all access. What this means to > us that we can only use carrier access, no tones like in a CTCSS > system. meh-CTCSS does not prohibit anyone from accessing a repeater, if you use standard EIA tones. But yeah, if they say specifically that you can't use CTCSS, then that's that. Not trying to pick on you. Just get tired of the 'PL means closed' attitude, worse when it comes from the gov't.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] New 10mtr Repeater Active from Auckland, NZ (ZL Land) - Slightly OT
Kevin, Could you publish the CTCSS tone required, perhaps even have it announced when the machine does polite IDs? CTCSS does not discriminate. As in the case of carrier-access, any licensed amateur willing to obtain the correct equipment can use the repeater. On a band with worldwide propagation and only four recognized repeater pairs, running without CTCSS is like running with the squelch open. The machine will routinely interfere with other users in a couple years when the solar cycle rebounds, even when nobody local is using it.. 1200 kM might as well be next-door neighbors when the band opens. 73, Paul, AE4KR - Original Message - From: Gmail - Kevin, Natalia, Stacey & Rochelle To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 3:39 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] New 10mtr Repeater Active from Auckland, NZ (ZL Land) - Slightly OT Hi Eric, In responce to your email. In NZ the regulary body (Govt) states that access to any Amateur Radio installion must be available to all access. What this means to us that we can only use carrier access, no tones like in a CTCSS system. Unlike in the US there are not that many repeater systems close by that would require some form of tone access to prevent interferance. In our case the closest 10mtr repeater on 29.64 is in Australia some 1200Kms away. Hope this helps explain why we can not use a tone. The short answer is Legal. Regards and Thanks Kevin, ZL1KFM. Get Skype and call me for free. - Original Message - From: Eric Lemmon To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 11:21 AM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] New 10mtr Repeater Active from Auckland, NZ (ZL Land) - Slightly OT Kevin, Congratulations on getting your repeater on the air! I am curious about your statement that you are not permitted to use CTCSS. Please explain why that is so. Is it a legal prohibition or technical? 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Gmail - Kevin, Natalia, Stacey & Rochelle Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 1:27 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] New 10mtr Repeater Active from Auckland, NZ (ZL Land) - Slightly OT Hi All, At long last the South Auckland Repeater Group, based in Auckland, NZ has finally got its 10mtr Repeater up and operational. The freq is 29.640 with no CTCSS (we are not permitted to run CTCSS for access in NZ, may have to look at it later if it requires it and we get approval). It is connected to the groups repeater system of 2x 2mtr repeaters and one 70cm repeater. There have been some DX contacts through it as well as local and with pleasing results, both on quality, strength and distance. Equipment is 2x Mitrek Low-Band radios at split sites, TX is running 50 watts and using Wolf Dipoles for antennas. These are controlled by RLC-2a and RLC-3 controllers. It has voice and CW id's and Top-of-the-hour beacon Ident. It has taken far too long to get up and running, but it is now there. Would be interested once things improve (propagation) in what it operates like further away. Regards Kevin, ZL1KFM sparc_nz Description: Binary data
Re: [Repeater-Builder] New 10mtr Repeater Active from Auckland, NZ (ZL Land) - Slightly OT
Hi Eric, In responce to your email. In NZ the regulary body (Govt) states that access to any Amateur Radio installion must be available to all access. What this means to us that we can only use carrier access, no tones like in a CTCSS system. Unlike in the US there are not that many repeater systems close by that would require some form of tone access to prevent interferance. In our case the closest 10mtr repeater on 29.64 is in Australia some 1200Kms away. Hope this helps explain why we can not use a tone. The short answer is Legal. Regards and Thanks Kevin, ZL1KFM. Get Skype and call me for free. - Original Message - From: Eric Lemmon To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 11:21 AM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] New 10mtr Repeater Active from Auckland, NZ (ZL Land) - Slightly OT Kevin, Congratulations on getting your repeater on the air! I am curious about your statement that you are not permitted to use CTCSS. Please explain why that is so. Is it a legal prohibition or technical? 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Gmail - Kevin, Natalia, Stacey & Rochelle Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 1:27 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] New 10mtr Repeater Active from Auckland, NZ (ZL Land) - Slightly OT Hi All, At long last the South Auckland Repeater Group, based in Auckland, NZ has finally got its 10mtr Repeater up and operational. The freq is 29.640 with no CTCSS (we are not permitted to run CTCSS for access in NZ, may have to look at it later if it requires it and we get approval). It is connected to the groups repeater system of 2x 2mtr repeaters and one 70cm repeater. There have been some DX contacts through it as well as local and with pleasing results, both on quality, strength and distance. Equipment is 2x Mitrek Low-Band radios at split sites, TX is running 50 watts and using Wolf Dipoles for antennas. These are controlled by RLC-2a and RLC-3 controllers. It has voice and CW id's and Top-of-the-hour beacon Ident. It has taken far too long to get up and running, but it is now there. Would be interested once things improve (propagation) in what it operates like further away. Regards Kevin, ZL1KFM sparc_nz Description: Binary data
RE: [Repeater-Builder] New 10mtr Repeater Active from Auckland, NZ (ZL Land) - Slightly OT
Kevin, Congratulations on getting your repeater on the air! I am curious about your statement that you are not permitted to use CTCSS. Please explain why that is so. Is it a legal prohibition or technical? 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Gmail - Kevin, Natalia, Stacey & Rochelle Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 1:27 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] New 10mtr Repeater Active from Auckland, NZ (ZL Land) - Slightly OT Hi All, At long last the South Auckland Repeater Group, based in Auckland, NZ has finally got its 10mtr Repeater up and operational. The freq is 29.640 with no CTCSS (we are not permitted to run CTCSS for access in NZ, may have to look at it later if it requires it and we get approval). It is connected to the groups repeater system of 2x 2mtr repeaters and one 70cm repeater. There have been some DX contacts through it as well as local and with pleasing results, both on quality, strength and distance. Equipment is 2x Mitrek Low-Band radios at split sites, TX is running 50 watts and using Wolf Dipoles for antennas. These are controlled by RLC-2a and RLC-3 controllers. It has voice and CW id's and Top-of-the-hour beacon Ident. It has taken far too long to get up and running, but it is now there. Would be interested once things improve (propagation) in what it operates like further away. Regards Kevin, ZL1KFM
[Repeater-Builder] New 10mtr Repeater Active from Auckland, NZ (ZL Land) - Slightly OT
Hi All, At long last the South Auckland Repeater Group, based in Auckland, NZ has finally got it's 10mtr Repeater up and operational. The freq is 29.640 with no CTCSS (we are not permitted to run CTCSS for access in NZ, may have to look at it later if it requires it and we get approval). It is connected to the groups repeater system of 2x 2mtr repeaters and one 70cm repeater. There have been some DX contacts through it as well as local and with pleasing results, both on quality, strength and distance. Equipment is 2x Mitrek Low-Band radios at split sites, TX is running 50 watts and using Wolf Dipoles for antennas. These are controlled by RLC-2a and RLC-3 controllers. It has voice and CW id's and Top-of-the-hour beacon Ident. It has taken far too long to get up and running, but it is now there. Would be interested once things improve (propergation) in what it operates like further away. Regards Kevin, ZL1KFM. Owner/Trustee. Get Skype and call me for free. sparc_nz Description: Binary data
