Re: [Repeater-Builder] Radio conversion to 225MHZ

2009-10-16 Thread Kevin Custer
K5IN wrote:
 Kevin,


 Any suggestions for a decent quality 220mhz amp for repeater duty?

 Micor 20-25 watts drive or pull the PA and exciter in and 50-60 watts output?

For 50 watts, we use two Japanese power modules and Wilkinson power 
dividers for splitting and combining.  We build an IPA that supplies the 
required drive for the two modules, it's a one transistor buffer that 
puts out about 1 watt but it's output is variable from 1/2 watt to 1 
watt.  This drives the two modules in parallel and the output is 
combined with another Wilkinson. 

I think Scott has pictures - it was never officially written up that 
I'm aware of.

Kevin




Re: [Repeater-Builder] Radio conversion to 225MHZ

2009-10-16 Thread Kevin Custer

Kevin Custer wrote:
it's a one transistor buffer that puts out about 1 watt but _it's_ output is variable 


Yea... _its_ out is variable - not _it is_ output is variable...

Long Day!

Kevin



Re: [Repeater-Builder] Radio conversion to 225MHZ

2009-10-16 Thread WD7F - John in Tucson
We used a TU-50 splitter and two SAV-15 power modules and modified the 
existing driver.  We ended up with about 73 watts and turned it down a bit. 
Also used a form of the Wilkinson combiner for the outputs.  We ground and 
polished the existing heat sink to mount the modules on and we know it's 
just about bullet proof.  One at least two occasions the RC-210 controller 
keyed it all night.  No problem.

You can read all about it on K7IOU Dave's page 
http://home.comcast.net/~micorrepeater/

de WD7F
John in Tucson


- Original Message - 
From: Kevin Custer kug...@kuggie.com
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 6:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Radio conversion to 225MHZ


 K5IN wrote:
 Kevin,


 Any suggestions for a decent quality 220mhz amp for repeater duty?

 Micor 20-25 watts drive or pull the PA and exciter in and 50-60 watts 
 output?

 For 50 watts, we use two Japanese power modules and Wilkinson power
 dividers for splitting and combining.  We build an IPA that supplies the
 required drive for the two modules, it's a one transistor buffer that
 puts out about 1 watt but it's output is variable from 1/2 watt to 1
 watt.  This drives the two modules in parallel and the output is
 combined with another Wilkinson.

 I think Scott has pictures - it was never officially written up that
 I'm aware of.

 Kevin




 



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[Repeater-Builder] Radio conversion to 225MHZ

2009-10-14 Thread J
Has anyone converted any of the commercial (GE/Motorola) radios to the 220 
band?  If so what works and what doesnt.  I need several 225 radios and thought 
this might be a route to go.

Thanks in advance

Jim



Re: [Repeater-Builder] Radio conversion to 225MHZ

2009-10-14 Thread Eric Lowell
I did a Micor mobile once (VHF-Hi to 220) It was a lot of work and the PA won't 
convert, so you need to address that.
 
Also did a GE MPI portable, Came out okay, but a rock bound 2 watt, 2 channel 
portable is not really worth the effort, given the cost of Icom 3ATs etc.
 
Not sure about the newer stuff.
 
GL de W1EL

Eric Lowell
Eastern Maine Electronics Inc.
48 Loon Road
Wesley ME 04686
eme@starband.net
www.satnetmaine.com

--- On Wed, 10/14/09, J aat...@yahoo.com wrote:


From: J aat...@yahoo.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Radio conversion to 225MHZ
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, October 14, 2009, 7:41 PM


  



Has anyone converted any of the commercial (GE/Motorola) radios to the 220 
band? If so what works and what doesnt. I need several 225 radios and thought 
this might be a route to go.

Thanks in advance

Jim

















  

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Radio conversion to 225MHZ

2009-10-14 Thread Oz-in-DFW
I have several Mitsubishi 220 PA Hybrid Modules. 100 mW in, 20~25 W
out.  $30 each.  I have a friend that made some interface PCBs, not
essential, but handy. I'll ask him what he wants for them if anyone is
interested.

Eric Lowell wrote:
  

 I did a Micor mobile once (VHF-Hi to 220) It was a lot of work and the
 PA won't convert, so you need to address that.
  
 Also did a GE MPI portable, Came out okay, but a rock bound 2 watt, 2
 channel portable is not really worth the effort, given the cost of
 Icom 3ATs etc.
  
 Not sure about the newer stuff.
  
 GL de W1EL

 Eric Lowell
 Eastern Maine Electronics Inc.
 48 Loon Road
 Wesley ME 04686
 eme@starband.net
 www.satnetmaine.com

 --- On *Wed, 10/14/09, J /aat...@yahoo.com/* wrote:


 From: J aat...@yahoo.com
 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Radio conversion to 225MHZ
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Wednesday, October 14, 2009, 7:41 PM

  
 Has anyone converted any of the commercial (GE/Motorola) radios to
 the 220 band? If so what works and what doesnt. I need several 225
 radios and thought this might be a route to go.

 Thanks in advance

 Jim


 

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Oz
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Southlake, TX 76092 (Near DFW Airport) 






Re: [Repeater-Builder] Radio conversion to 225MHZ

2009-10-14 Thread Kevin Custer
J wrote:
 Has anyone converted any of the commercial (GE/Motorola) radios to the 220 
 band?  If so what works and what doesnt.  I need several 225 radios and 
 thought this might be a route to go.

I have converted MASTR II Mobiles, both multiplier and PLL exciter, with 
standard receivers to 220 MHz. - they work fine, the PLL is easier.  
There are preferred instructions on the MASTR II conversion site: 
http://www.repeater-builder.com/rbtip/geindex.html#220

For the M2 with a PLL exciter, Scott sells a complete conversion kit:
http://www.repeater-builder.com/products/MIIconversionkit.html

The PA's won't convert, but there is an easy fix:
http://www.repeater-builder.com/products/ampbd.html


I have converted MICOR Mobiles and Stations to 220 MHz. - they also work 
fine.  There are preferred instructions on the MICOR conversion site:
http://www.repeater-builder.com/rbtip/micor-index.html#220
Helical Resonators modified for 220 operation are available here:
http://www.repeater-builder.com/products/

The PA's won't convert, but again - never fear, the amp board is the 
solution:
http://www.repeater-builder.com/products/ampbd.html

Any of the above radios can be converted to 220 MHz and achieve book 
specification sensitivity on the new band.  My favorite is the MICOR.

Hope this helps...
Kevin Custer




RE: [Repeater-Builder] Radio conversion to 225MHZ

2009-10-14 Thread K5IN
Kevin,


Any suggestions for a decent quality 220mhz amp for repeater duty?

Micor 20-25 watts drive or pull the PA and exciter in and 50-60 watts
output?


Thanks

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Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Radio conversion to 225MHZ

  

J wrote:
 Has anyone converted any of the commercial (GE/Motorola) radios to the 220
band? If so what works and what doesnt. I need several 225 radios and
thought this might be a route to go.

I have converted MASTR II Mobiles, both multiplier and PLL exciter, with 
standard receivers to 220 MHz. - they work fine, the PLL is easier. 
There are preferred instructions on the MASTR II conversion site: 
http://www.repeater-builder.com/rbtip/geindex.html#220
http://www.repeater-builder.com/rbtip/geindex.html#220 

For the M2 with a PLL exciter, Scott sells a complete conversion kit:
http://www.repeater-builder.com/products/MIIconversionkit.html
http://www.repeater-builder.com/products/MIIconversionkit.html 

The PA's won't convert, but there is an easy fix:
http://www.repeater-builder.com/products/ampbd.html
http://www.repeater-builder.com/products/ampbd.html 

I have converted MICOR Mobiles and Stations to 220 MHz. - they also work 
fine. There are preferred instructions on the MICOR conversion site:
http://www.repeater-builder.com/rbtip/micor-index.html#220
http://www.repeater-builder.com/rbtip/micor-index.html#220 
Helical Resonators modified for 220 operation are available here:
http://www.repeater-builder.com/products/
http://www.repeater-builder.com/products/ 

The PA's won't convert, but again - never fear, the amp board is the 
solution:
http://www.repeater-builder.com/products/ampbd.html
http://www.repeater-builder.com/products/ampbd.html 

Any of the above radios can be converted to 220 MHz and achieve book 
specification sensitivity on the new band. My favorite is the MICOR.

Hope this helps...
Kevin Custer