Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Tait 220 equipment
At 05:07 PM 09/26/07, you wrote: On Sep 26, 2007, at 5:42 PM, Doug Bade wrote: Much of it is commercially type accepted as we have a commercial band from 216-220 that is populated with LTR users in some places..it is not Part 90 but it is a commercial band segment. Coastal radio services ( Maritime) and shared with some land mobile auction licensees away from the coastal areas...( I am not referring to the 220-222 segment using ACSB etc that IS Part 90.) TAIT is one of the vendors that supports this market... also Kenwood I hear, but I have never seen those particular radios in person... I've also seen some odd-ball 220 MHz Motorola rigs on eBay recently, but it looked like they came from a foreign market and weren't targeted at the U.S. segment. Could be wrong about that one, for sure. -- Nate Duehr [EMAIL PROTECTED] Any model number that is prefixed with AZ is intended for the Asian market. Some asian countries have commercial allocations there. For example, the AZM08MHF6AA2A is a 220-240MHz, 64 channel, 25 watt Radius mobile made by Moto Australia for the Asian market. The AZP03YPC20C5AA is a GP300 handheld in the same frequency allocation. If there is an Asian reader of this group and has any further info please speak up. Mike WA6ILQ
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Tait 220 equipment
At 04:14 PM 09/26/07, you wrote: I wonder if the Tait 220 stuff is type accepted. Not that I care, but it may make a difference in whether or not the dealer would try and get them for us. Just curious. We could always go directly to a tait dealer in ZL land and get them shipped, but the shipping costs would be high. Tait has an office in Canada. It's a lot closer. The phone is 905-472-5300 See the Tait page at repeater-builder. Mike WA6ILQ
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Tait 220 equipment
Hello Guys Dont mean to butt in - - - I picked up on this dialog ref 220 FM We have available product from R F Technology PTY ( Sydney ) in the Chicago area - we are a dealer for this mfgr and can supply - Similar in design as the Tait. See http://www.com-rad.com/transtech.htm or / and http://www.rftechnology.com.au for additional I can be reached at 800 298 2850 for dialog 73 Ed K9QPJ - Original Message - From: Mike Morris WA6ILQ To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 2:56 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Tait 220 equipment At 04:14 PM 09/26/07, you wrote: I wonder if the Tait 220 stuff is type accepted. Not that I care, but it may make a difference in whether or not the dealer would try and get them for us. Just curious. We could always go directly to a tait dealer in ZL land and get them shipped, but the shipping costs would be high. Tait has an office in Canada. It's a lot closer. The phone is 905-472-5300 See the Tait page at repeater-builder. Mike WA6ILQ
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Tait 220 equipment
I wonder if the Tait 220 stuff is type accepted. Not that I care, but it may make a difference in whether or not the dealer would try and get them for us. Just curious. We could always go directly to a tait dealer in ZL land and get them shipped, but the shipping costs would be high. Another option to consider is getting stuff from the UK and Europe. Over there, that band segment was/is called VHF Band 3(some trunked). I looked into that awhile back. Most of the equipment I found on UK ebay was narrow band, but might be modified (or used as-is?) Anyway, VHF Band 3 is now some sort of terrestrial digital broadcast band, so the old two way radio gear is pretty much worthless there now. It should be able to be had for a bargain, not counting shipping.. 7treez, na6df --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Jed Barton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That souds like a plan Yeah 220 stuff is getting very very hard to find for sure On Sep 26, 2007, at 2:55 PM, Doug Bade wrote: There was some notes I read somewhere that the channel steps on the 220 version was limited and in this country we could not access ALL freq's on 15/20 khz band plans.. just some... I think I read it was 12k5or 10k0 or something like this, and channel stepped which did not match all of our bandplans...I would want to check into it before finding out the hard way.. Doug KD8B At 02:47 PM 9/26/2007, you wrote: On Sep 22, 2007, at 10:59 PM, Jed Barton wrote: Does anyone know if any of the tait mobiles or portables will work in the amateur 220 band, or have any specs for them? I know they have a bunch of repeaters. Any info would be appreciated. Thanks, Jed They do have them, and according to a local Tait dealer, they will program into the ham bands, but I have no direct experience with them. I have programmed Tait 220 LTR rigs into the ham bands before... it was a trial-and-error thing, since the LTR rigs are channelized. I was dorking around with making one a transmitter and one a receiver for a backyard repeater. The project never got finished. But I was able to trick them into having one rig transmitting on 224.34 and the receiver on the receive portion of that pair. He was going to order a couple of mobiles into his collection and try them out. I should follow up with him and see what he thinks of them. I would guess from my experience with the LTR rigs, as long as their newer programming software doesn't lock the rigs to commercial frequencies (unlikely), they'd probably work just fine in Amateur service. Looking at their website, the TM8115 is a 99 channel conventional rig, and they have a version banded D1 that is 216-266 MHz. Not sure how you go about finding a dealer in any particular area, or whether the dealer could sell the D1 banded radios in the U.S. Can't see why not, though... http://www.taitworld.com/main/index.cfm/1,178,0,44,htmlhttp:// www.taitworld.com/main/index.cfm/1,178,0,44,html for docs on all the models. http://www.taitworld.com/main/index.cfm/3,178,241/ sp8115_final.pdfhttp://www.taitworld.com/main/index.cfm/3,178,241/ sp8115_final.pdf - see page two/specifications for bands, etc. -- Nate Duehr, WY0X mailto:nate%40natetech.com[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Tait 220 equipment
Much of it is commercially type accepted as we have a commercial band from 216-220 that is populated with LTR users in some places..it is not Part 90 but it is a commercial band segment. Coastal radio services ( Maritime) and shared with some land mobile auction licensees away from the coastal areas...( I am not referring to the 220-222 segment using ACSB etc that IS Part 90.) TAIT is one of the vendors that supports this market... also Kenwood I hear, but I have never seen those particular radios in person... Many of the 220 TAIT radios are MPT 1327 radios and do not do conventional well if at all.. so buyer beware Doug KD8B At 07:14 PM 9/26/2007, you wrote: I wonder if the Tait 220 stuff is type accepted. Not that I care, but it may make a difference in whether or not the dealer would try and get them for us. Just curious. We could always go directly to a tait dealer in ZL land and get them shipped, but the shipping costs would be high. Another option to consider is getting stuff from the UK and Europe. Over there, that band segment was/is called VHF Band 3(some trunked). I looked into that awhile back. Most of the equipment I found on UK ebay was narrow band, but might be modified (or used as-is?) Anyway, VHF Band 3 is now some sort of terrestrial digital broadcast band, so the old two way radio gear is pretty much worthless there now. It should be able to be had for a bargain, not counting shipping.. 7treez, na6df --- In mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.comRepeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Jed Barton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That souds like a plan Yeah 220 stuff is getting very very hard to find for sure On Sep 26, 2007, at 2:55 PM, Doug Bade wrote: There was some notes I read somewhere that the channel steps on the 220 version was limited and in this country we could not access ALL freq's on 15/20 khz band plans.. just some... I think I read it was 12k5or 10k0 or something like this, and channel stepped which did not match all of our bandplans...I would want to check into it before finding out the hard way.. Doug KD8B At 02:47 PM 9/26/2007, you wrote: On Sep 22, 2007, at 10:59 PM, Jed Barton wrote: Does anyone know if any of the tait mobiles or portables will work in the amateur 220 band, or have any specs for them? I know they have a bunch of repeaters. Any info would be appreciated. Thanks, Jed They do have them, and according to a local Tait dealer, they will program into the ham bands, but I have no direct experience with them. I have programmed Tait 220 LTR rigs into the ham bands before... it was a trial-and-error thing, since the LTR rigs are channelized. I was dorking around with making one a transmitter and one a receiver for a backyard repeater. The project never got finished. But I was able to trick them into having one rig transmitting on 224.34 and the receiver on the receive portion of that pair. He was going to order a couple of mobiles into his collection and try them out. I should follow up with him and see what he thinks of them. I would guess from my experience with the LTR rigs, as long as their newer programming software doesn't lock the rigs to commercial frequencies (unlikely), they'd probably work just fine in Amateur service. Looking at their website, the TM8115 is a 99 channel conventional rig, and they have a version banded D1 that is 216-266 MHz. Not sure how you go about finding a dealer in any particular area, or whether the dealer could sell the D1 banded radios in the U.S. Can't see why not, though... http://www.taitworld.com/main/index.cfm/1,178,0,44,htmlhttp://www.taitworld.com/main/index.cfm/1,178,0,44,htmlhttp:// www.taitworld.com/main/index.cfm/1,178,0,44,html for docs on all the models. http://www.taitworld.com/main/index.cfm/3,178,241/http://www.taitworld.com/main/index.cfm/3,178,241/ sp8115_final.pdfhttp://www.taitworld.com/main/index.cfm/3,178,241/http://www.taitworld.com/main/index.cfm/3,178,241/ sp8115_final.pdf - see page two/specifications for bands, etc. -- Nate Duehr, WY0X mailto:nate%40natetech.com[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Tait 220 equipment
On Sep 26, 2007, at 5:42 PM, Doug Bade wrote: Much of it is commercially type accepted as we have a commercial band from 216-220 that is populated with LTR users in some places..it is not Part 90 but it is a commercial band segment. Coastal radio services ( Maritime) and shared with some land mobile auction licensees away from the coastal areas...( I am not referring to the 220-222 segment using ACSB etc that IS Part 90.) TAIT is one of the vendors that supports this market... also Kenwood I hear, but I have never seen those particular radios in person... I've also seen some odd-ball 220 MHz Motorola rigs on eBay recently, but it looked like they came from a foreign market and weren't targeted at the U.S. segment. Could be wrong about that one, for sure. -- Nate Duehr [EMAIL PROTECTED]