Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Tait 220 equipment

2007-09-27 Thread Mike Morris WA6ILQ
At 05:07 PM 09/26/07, you wrote:

On Sep 26, 2007, at 5:42 PM, Doug Bade wrote:

   Much of it is commercially type accepted as we have a
  commercial band from 216-220 that is populated with LTR users in some
  places..it is not Part 90  but it is a commercial band segment.
  Coastal radio services ( Maritime) and shared with some land mobile
  auction licensees away from the coastal areas...( I am not referring
  to the 220-222 segment using ACSB etc that IS Part 90.)
 
   TAIT is one of the vendors that supports this market... also
  Kenwood I hear, but I have never seen those particular radios in
  person...

I've also seen some odd-ball 220 MHz Motorola rigs on eBay recently,
but it looked like they came from a foreign market and weren't
targeted at the U.S. segment.

Could be wrong about that one, for sure.

--
Nate Duehr
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Any model number that is prefixed with AZ is intended for the Asian market.
Some asian countries have commercial allocations there.

For example, the AZM08MHF6AA2A is a 220-240MHz, 64 channel, 25 watt
Radius mobile made by Moto Australia for the Asian market.

The AZP03YPC20C5AA is a GP300 handheld in the same frequency allocation.

If there is an Asian reader of this group and has any further info 
please speak up.

Mike WA6ILQ



Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Tait 220 equipment

2007-09-27 Thread Mike Morris WA6ILQ

At 04:14 PM 09/26/07, you wrote:

I wonder if the Tait 220 stuff is type accepted. Not that I care, but
it may make a difference in whether or not the dealer would try and
get them for us. Just curious. We could always go directly to a tait
dealer in ZL land and get them shipped, but the shipping costs would
be high.


Tait has an office in Canada.  It's a lot closer. The phone is 905-472-5300
See the Tait page at repeater-builder.

Mike WA6ILQ


Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Tait 220 equipment

2007-09-27 Thread Com/Rad Inc
Hello Guys

Dont mean to butt in - - - 
I picked up on this dialog ref 220 FM 
We have available product from R F Technology PTY
( Sydney ) in the Chicago area - we are a dealer for this mfgr and can supply - 
Similar in design as the Tait. 
See http://www.com-rad.com/transtech.htm
or / and http://www.rftechnology.com.au
for additional
I can be reached at 800 298 2850 for dialog
73
Ed K9QPJ


  - Original Message - 
  From: Mike Morris WA6ILQ 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 2:56 AM
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Tait 220 equipment


  At 04:14 PM 09/26/07, you wrote:


I wonder if the Tait 220 stuff is type accepted. Not that I care, but
it may make a difference in whether or not the dealer would try and
get them for us. Just curious. We could always go directly to a tait
dealer in ZL land and get them shipped, but the shipping costs would
be high.

  Tait has an office in Canada.  It's a lot closer. The phone is 905-472-5300 
  See the Tait page at repeater-builder.

  Mike WA6ILQ


   

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Tait 220 equipment

2007-09-26 Thread na6df
I wonder if the Tait 220 stuff is type accepted. Not that I care, but
it may make a difference in whether or not the dealer would try and
get them for us. Just curious. We could always go directly to a tait
dealer in ZL land and get them shipped, but the shipping costs would
be high.

Another option to consider is getting stuff from the UK and Europe.
Over there, that band segment was/is called VHF Band 3(some
trunked). I looked into that awhile back. Most of the equipment I
found on UK ebay was narrow band, but might be modified (or used
as-is?) Anyway, VHF Band 3 is now some sort of terrestrial digital
broadcast band, so the old two way radio gear is pretty much worthless
there now. It should be able to be had for a bargain, not counting
shipping..

7treez,
na6df


--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Jed Barton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 That souds like a plan
 Yeah 220 stuff is getting very very hard to find for sure On Sep 26,  
 2007, at 2:55 PM, Doug Bade wrote:
 
  There was some notes I read somewhere that the channel steps on the
  220 version was limited and in this country we could not access ALL
  freq's on 15/20 khz band plans.. just some... I think I read it was
  12k5or 10k0  or something like this, and channel stepped which did
  not match all of our bandplans...I would want to check into it before
  finding out the hard way..
 
  Doug
  KD8B
 
 
  At 02:47 PM 9/26/2007, you wrote:
 
 
  On Sep 22, 2007, at 10:59 PM, Jed Barton wrote:
 
  Does anyone know if any of the tait mobiles or portables will work
  in the
  amateur 220 band, or have any specs for them?
  I know they have a bunch of repeaters.
  Any info would be appreciated.
 
  Thanks,
  Jed
 
  They do have them, and according to a local Tait dealer, they will
  program into the ham bands, but I have no direct experience with  
  them.
 
  I have programmed Tait 220 LTR rigs into the ham bands before... it
  was a trial-and-error thing, since the LTR rigs are channelized. I
  was dorking around with making one a transmitter and one a receiver
  for a backyard repeater. The project never got finished. But I was
  able to trick them into having one rig transmitting on 224.34 and the
  receiver on the receive portion of that pair.
 
  He was going to order a couple of mobiles into his collection and
  try them out. I should follow up with him and see what he thinks of
  them.
 
  I would guess from my experience with the LTR rigs, as long as their
  newer programming software doesn't lock the rigs to commercial
  frequencies (unlikely), they'd probably work just fine in Amateur
  service.
 
  Looking at their website, the TM8115 is a 99 channel conventional
  rig, and they have a version banded D1 that is 216-266 MHz.
 
  Not sure how you go about finding a dealer in any particular area, or
  whether the dealer could sell the D1 banded radios in the U.S. Can't
  see why not, though...
 
  http://www.taitworld.com/main/index.cfm/1,178,0,44,htmlhttp:// 
  www.taitworld.com/main/index.cfm/1,178,0,44,html
  for docs on
  all the models.
  http://www.taitworld.com/main/index.cfm/3,178,241/ 
  sp8115_final.pdfhttp://www.taitworld.com/main/index.cfm/3,178,241/ 
  sp8115_final.pdf
  -
  see page two/specifications for bands, etc.
 
  --
  Nate Duehr, WY0X
  mailto:nate%40natetech.com[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 





Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Tait 220 equipment

2007-09-26 Thread Doug Bade
 Much of it is commercially type accepted as we have a 
commercial band from 216-220 that is populated with LTR users in some 
places..it is not Part 90  but it is a commercial band segment. 
Coastal radio services ( Maritime) and shared with some land mobile 
auction licensees away from the coastal areas...( I am not referring 
to the 220-222 segment using ACSB etc that IS Part 90.)

 TAIT is one of the vendors that supports this market... also 
Kenwood I hear, but I have never seen those particular radios in person...

 Many of the 220 TAIT radios are MPT 1327 radios and do not 
do conventional well if at all.. so buyer beware
Doug
KD8B


At 07:14 PM 9/26/2007, you wrote:

I wonder if the Tait 220 stuff is type accepted. Not that I care, but
it may make a difference in whether or not the dealer would try and
get them for us. Just curious. We could always go directly to a tait
dealer in ZL land and get them shipped, but the shipping costs would
be high.

Another option to consider is getting stuff from the UK and Europe.
Over there, that band segment was/is called VHF Band 3(some
trunked). I looked into that awhile back. Most of the equipment I
found on UK ebay was narrow band, but might be modified (or used
as-is?) Anyway, VHF Band 3 is now some sort of terrestrial digital
broadcast band, so the old two way radio gear is pretty much worthless
there now. It should be able to be had for a bargain, not counting
shipping..

7treez,
na6df

--- In 
mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.comRepeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, 
Jed Barton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  That souds like a plan
  Yeah 220 stuff is getting very very hard to find for sure On Sep 26,
  2007, at 2:55 PM, Doug Bade wrote:
 
   There was some notes I read somewhere that the channel steps on the
   220 version was limited and in this country we could not access ALL
   freq's on 15/20 khz band plans.. just some... I think I read it was
   12k5or 10k0 or something like this, and channel stepped which did
   not match all of our bandplans...I would want to check into it before
   finding out the hard way..
  
   Doug
   KD8B
  
  
   At 02:47 PM 9/26/2007, you wrote:
  
  
   On Sep 22, 2007, at 10:59 PM, Jed Barton wrote:
  
   Does anyone know if any of the tait mobiles or portables will work
   in the
   amateur 220 band, or have any specs for them?
   I know they have a bunch of repeaters.
   Any info would be appreciated.
  
   Thanks,
   Jed
  
   They do have them, and according to a local Tait dealer, they will
   program into the ham bands, but I have no direct experience with
   them.
  
   I have programmed Tait 220 LTR rigs into the ham bands before... it
   was a trial-and-error thing, since the LTR rigs are channelized. I
   was dorking around with making one a transmitter and one a receiver
   for a backyard repeater. The project never got finished. But I was
   able to trick them into having one rig transmitting on 224.34 and the
   receiver on the receive portion of that pair.
  
   He was going to order a couple of mobiles into his collection and
   try them out. I should follow up with him and see what he thinks of
   them.
  
   I would guess from my experience with the LTR rigs, as long as their
   newer programming software doesn't lock the rigs to commercial
   frequencies (unlikely), they'd probably work just fine in Amateur
   service.
  
   Looking at their website, the TM8115 is a 99 channel conventional
   rig, and they have a version banded D1 that is 216-266 MHz.
  
   Not sure how you go about finding a dealer in any particular area, or
   whether the dealer could sell the D1 banded radios in the U.S. Can't
   see why not, though...
  
   
 http://www.taitworld.com/main/index.cfm/1,178,0,44,htmlhttp://www.taitworld.com/main/index.cfm/1,178,0,44,htmlhttp://
  

   www.taitworld.com/main/index.cfm/1,178,0,44,html
   for docs on
   all the models.
   
 http://www.taitworld.com/main/index.cfm/3,178,241/http://www.taitworld.com/main/index.cfm/3,178,241/
  

   
 sp8115_final.pdfhttp://www.taitworld.com/main/index.cfm/3,178,241/http://www.taitworld.com/main/index.cfm/3,178,241/
  

   sp8115_final.pdf
   -
   see page two/specifications for bands, etc.
  
   --
   Nate Duehr, WY0X
   mailto:nate%40natetech.com[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
 





Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Tait 220 equipment

2007-09-26 Thread Nate Duehr

On Sep 26, 2007, at 5:42 PM, Doug Bade wrote:

  Much of it is commercially type accepted as we have a
 commercial band from 216-220 that is populated with LTR users in some
 places..it is not Part 90  but it is a commercial band segment.
 Coastal radio services ( Maritime) and shared with some land mobile
 auction licensees away from the coastal areas...( I am not referring
 to the 220-222 segment using ACSB etc that IS Part 90.)

  TAIT is one of the vendors that supports this market... also
 Kenwood I hear, but I have never seen those particular radios in  
 person...

I've also seen some odd-ball 220 MHz Motorola rigs on eBay recently,  
but it looked like they came from a foreign market and weren't  
targeted at the U.S. segment.

Could be wrong about that one, for sure.

--
Nate Duehr
[EMAIL PROTECTED]